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June 4th, 2012
05:43 PM ET
We don't teach hate, says church where anti-homosexual song filmedBy Ismael Estrada, CNN Greensburg, Indiana (CNN) - About 20 protesters gathered on Sunday outside the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle here to voice opposition to a viral online video that was taped in the church and shows a young child singing song with lyrics that offer a harsh message for homosexuals. The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows a child in front of the congregation, singing "I know that God is right, and somebody's wrong... ain't no homo going to make it to heaven." The congregation erupts in applause at those lines, which the unidentified boy repeats as the pastor looks on. At another point in the video a voice is heard shouting,"That’s my boy." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the first Sunday service since the video surfaced, congregants arrived to the church as protesters jeered them over the video. A church leader, who would not give his name, told CNN that journalists were not allowed inside the church and declined to offer anyone from church leadership to comment on the video. The leader said that he needed to be cautious about letting outsiders into the church because it had received threats over the video and asked CNN to leave the premises. Church videos with harsh words for gays go viral online The local sheriff's office said the church had not reported any verifiable threats. No one answered the door at the home of Jeff Sangl, the church's pastor. The video of the singing boy was the latest in a string of viral anti-gay videos that have surfaced from independent churches. Those videos have been resoundingly condemned by religious leaders, even by conservatives who believe homosexual sex is a sin. The Apostolic Truth Tabernacle posted a statement on its website that says in part: "The Pastor and members of Apostolic Truth Tabernacle do not condone, teach, or practice hate of any person for any reason.” The pastor's son, Josh Sangl, told CNN his father was away on vacation and that there was much more to the video than we were being told, though he wouldn’t elaborate. The majority of the church members wouldn’t comment about the controversy or respond to questions about the parents of the young boy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter "I think it's blown out of proportion, you know," said Robert Kirby, who is not a church member but was attending Sunday's church service in support of his daughter, who teaches Sunday School there. "They love everybody. "They don't love sin though," he said. "It's all in the Bible." soundoff (3,151 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Next »
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Edwardo & Tom Tom...Both of you are still at it I see. You are full of pride and arrogance. You sound like Ahab who accused Elijah for the woes befallen Israel instead of taking responsibility for his wicked ways. America, just like Ahab and Jezebel, has done evil in the sight of the LORD.
1 Kings 18:17-18 "Then it happened, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said to him, “Is that you, O troubler of Israel?”
And he answered, “I have not troubled Israel, but you and your father’s house have, in that you have forsaken the commandments of the Lord and have followed the Baals."
You don't judge His Church or the children...the LORD will do that. Likewise, He will judge ALL of us. Repent!
*yawn* Got a quarter? Call your mother. Maybe she cares what you think.
LOL, if you don't have evidence, use a threat. How awesome.
This church does not recognize hate.
Indiana has long been a bastion of inbred christian hate.
Jesus Christ = Hate.
Don't mistake misguided Christians for Jesus Christ. There is no hate in Christ. He loves you more than you know.
Humanity is doomed anyways. We're too self destructive. god or no god, life is pain, because of what we all think is going to happen afterwards...
I will say it in a kinder,gentler way. If you persist in your iniquity and refuse to repent of it and call your evil good, and good evil, you will one day die in your sin and you will spend eternity in the lake of fire, read the book for yourself, it does not have kind things to say about those who practice sin and refuse to repent, be they, murders, adulterers, fornicators,theives, drunkards, those that lay with mankind as with womankind,witches, ect... Dont just single out the sodomites, that seems to be all people want to talk about and it is constantly put in our faces, I dont know about you but when I sin, I am disgusted with myself and cannot wait to get before the Lord and repent and ask forgivness, I dont make it public and ask the world to believe that I cannot help myself and please make excuses for me. Be reconciled to God through Jesus Christ the time is short, someone reading this will not be alive tomorrow. Are you ready for eternity??????? PP
Not if I have to spend it with people like you peepee.
I'm ready for eternity!
I was born a sinner and will die a sinner and repent to no one. Nor do I need anyone to make excuses for my mistakes as I am willing to admit and face the punishment of whatever I have and will do.
"I will say it in a kinder,gentler way. If you persist in your iniquity and refuse to repent of it and call your evil good, and good evil, you will one day die in your sin and you will spend eternity in the lake of fire,"
That's your idea of gentler? Sounds like the same old bullish!t to me!
Why would gay men have another man´s díck inside their hairy á´s´shole? Seriously
And you need this fantasy embellished for you why? Close your bedroom door.
Cause it feels great! Ask your wife!
Geez, your s3x life must be really boring.
Newsflash for this so-called church: If they are still teaching from that compendium of fairy tales called the bible they are without a doubt teaching hate. Religion is the single most corrosive element to true morality.
The real h8trs are those who oppose free speech and want to shut up those who express views divergent from theirs. If those who were protesting the church were truly tolerant and inclusive they would have been expressing support for the church to engage in religious freedom and free speech.
Stupid. The protestors have a right to protest just like the churchgoers have a right to spew hatred
No one is trying to stifle your free speech. Heck, atheists want you guys to keep talking and putting yourselves out there for all to see. And this isn't about "religious freedom" either. Religions don't have to freedom to control policy, but you are free to believe in sandboxes if you want.
Amen, brother!
Where is that childs freedom. Do you really think that he came up with that song or the ideas behind it all on his own.
If you are really concerned about freedom you'd be rallying to get that and every other child away from these inbred,
uneducated dimwits.
What you fail to realize is that WE in the gay community have continually tried to reach out to churches to establish a dialogue and common ground. Churchs and Religions, however, continually push us away, not wanting to cooperate or be very Christ-like at all "treat others as how you would be treated". I am so glad I am not brainwashed into actually thinking there are magic guys in the clouds who love me but have rules for me. What a crock. And that bible of yours: science has long since proved it false. So your argument of "bible-this, bible-that" is null & void.
I suppose it would be fine with you if the boy was singing "aint no ni–ers or jew going to heaven" too.
*** The real h8trs are those who oppose free speech and want to shut up those who express views divergent from theirs...
Whos speech has been surpressed ?
Nobody has stopped the church from speaking.
But as soon as somebody demonstrates against that speech
you scream that your rights are being stepped on.
The demonstrators have just as much right to speak as the church does.
Your argument is childish.
The HATE already been bred-in : This churd does NOT teach hate ! 😉
I mean the hate is inbred.
This church got it right.
So true. Brainwashing is so fun.
Its so sad to see how ignorant some people are and using the bible as a means to justify their actions.
Poor sad people. American Taliban.
Who cares what these backwoods scabeaters think anymore. Just let them do what they want under their dumb little sheltered roof, then later on they can all just swallow their own bitter intolerant pills when they are fed them. In the meantime, society marches forward.
Laughing at "scabeaters"....
This church seems rather stupid.
Damned Fundies.....giving Christianity a very bad name since ... the 1920s?
Utterly pathetic! To claim they don't teach and then allow a boy to sing of such hatred towards?
Typical hypocritical BS taught by all churches...
By all churches? How can you possibly know this? I bet you can't even identify all churches.
A few questions should help shed light on the relationship between Christianity and rational thought.
The completely absurd theory that all 7,000,000,000 human beings are simultaneously being supervised 24 hours a day, every day of their lives by an immortal, invisible being for the purposes of reward or punishment in the “afterlife” comes from the field of:
(a) Astronomy;
(b) Medicine;
(c) Economics; or
(d) Christianity
You are about 70% likely to believe the entire Universe began less than 10,000 years ago with only one man, one woman and a talking snake if you are a:
(a) historian;
(b) geologist;
(c) NASA astronomer; or
(d) Conservative Christian
I have convinced myself that gay $ex is a choice and not genetic, but then have no explanation as to why only gay people have ho.mo$exual urges. I am
(a) A psychologist from the 1940s
(b) A fraudulent geneticist
(c) A sociologist who never went to college
(d) A Christian with the remarkable ability to ignore inconvenient facts.
I honestly believe that, when I think silent thoughts like, “please god, help me pass my exam tomorrow,” some invisible being is reading my mind and will intervene and alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to help me. I am
(a) a delusional schizophrenic;
(b) a naïve child, too young to know that that is silly
(c) an ignorant farmer from Sudan who never had the benefit of even a fifth grade education; or
(d) your average Christian
Millions and millions of Catholics believe that bread and wine turns into the actual flesh and blood of a dead Jew from 2,000 years ago because:
(a) there are obvious visible changes in the condiments after the Catholic priest does his hocus pocus;
(b) tests have confirmed a divine presence in the bread and wine;
(c) now and then their god shows up and confirms this story; or
(d) their religious convictions tell them to blindly accept this completely fvcking absurd nonsense.
I believe that an all powerful being, capable of creating the entire cosmos watches me have $ex to make sure I don't do anything "naughty". I am
(a) A victim of child molestation
(b) A r.ape victim trying to recover
(c) A mental patient with paranoid delusions
(d) A Christian
The only discipline known to often cause people to kill others they have never met and/or to commit suicide in its furtherance is:
(a) Architecture;
(b) Philosophy;
(c) Archeology; or
(d) Religion
What is it that most differentiates science and all other intellectual disciplines from religion:
(a) Religion tells people not only what they should believe, but what they are morally obliged to believe, whereas science, economics, medicine etc. has no “sacred cows” in terms of doctrine and go where the evidence leads them;
(b) Religion can make a statement, such as “there is a god comprised of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit”, and be totally immune from experimentation and challenge, whereas science can only make factual assertions when supported by considerable evidence;
(c) Science and the scientific method is universal and consistent all over the World whereas religion is regional and a person’s religious conviction, no matter how deeply held, is clearly nothing more than an accident of birth; or
(d) All of the above.
If I am found wandering the streets flagellating myself, wading into a filth river, having my seven year old child make a national fool of himself or kneeling down in a church believing that a being is somehow reading my inner thoughts and prayers, I am likely driven by:
(a) a deep psychiatric issue;
(b) an irrational fear or phobia;
(c) a severe mental degeneration caused by years of drug abuse; or
(d) my religious belief.
Who am I? I don’t pay any taxes. I never have. Any money my organization earns is tax free and my own salary is also tax free, at the federal, state and local level. Despite contributing nothing to society, but still enjoying all its benefits, I feel I have the right to tell others what to do. I am
(a) A sleazy Wall Street banker
(b) A mafia boss
(c) A drug pusher; or
(d) A Catholic Priest, Protestant Minister or Jewish Rabbi.
Hey nobody told me there was going to be a test. Otherwise I might have studied the bibble.
Good work, sir.
Dear Lord, I was not aware that there would be a pop quiz so if you're not too busy I'd appreciate it if you could do me a solid here.
P.S. Should you deign to smite the blaspheming heathen that made this quiz ...........
Aced this test. lol
Your post has several flaws but t I'll pick on just one. "...and be totally immune from experimentation and challenge, ..."
Yet, you issued a challege.
Kirk: "He (Spock) always lies."
Spock: "I'm lying."
God hates f@gs, not us!
God hates haters.......fool.......and by the way, there is no god.....he is fictional.........
This churd does NOT teach hate ! The HATE already been bred-in , no education needed 😉
Really? That's not what She told me! MY God doesn't punish anyone for the way they are born. Rather righteousness is in one's actions to one's fellow humans. I think SOME so-called christians need to re-read that bible of theirs.
Some reeeeetards don't recognize humor when they see it!
Your just being ignorant Friend, stop listing to Right wing Tea Party / Fox Media infused hate.
The book of Genesis says "God created man in his own image" , so like you and me god also created them so how can he hate his own creation created in his own image, do you recall Jesus saying to hate them.
Its high time you stop listing to the hate speech of the right wing Team part / Fox
G0dd@mn people STILL don't get it! I'm making fun of this church by referencing the stupid @ZZ GodHatesF@gs idiots in Kansas. I'm making fun of it 100% and I'm 100% atheist, so what's the fvkkin problem?
I guess when praying does not work they turn to hateful picket signs and slogans
Wait praying didn't work ? how can that be
Send parent to jail, sue the church, and give the money to gay rights!!! Shame on the apostolic cult.
This is what they call Christian madrasses. For the Christian-Taliban.
Folks, folks, folks... This is Indiana we're talking about. It isn't really known for being a hotbed of intellectual people. Most of these people all clasp bibles and guns and lock themselves up in their homes after the "witching hour".
actually they sit on their front porches, their kids run free in their fields and they leave their doors unlocked with their guns in their gun chests or wherever. You are committing the same blatant generalizations you are squawking about. Problem all around. Imagine your own gay glorious heaven. Why would you insist on others letting you into their imagined heaven.
@ Herself "Why would you insist on others letting you into their imagined heaven.?" Does this post make sense to you? I don't recall anyone insisting that they be let in the pearly gates. Apparently the company up there will be dreadful, if the waiting line down here is any clue...