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 The Vatican and the American Catholic Church have issued three reprimands of Catholic nuns since last year.
June 5th, 2012
02:34 PM ET
Vatican intensifying crackdown on American nunsBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - The Vatican denies there's a connection, but its reprimand of an influential American nun, at a moment when the Holy See is already engaged in an intense fight with most American nuns, sends a clear message: The Catholic Church’s leaders think America’s nuns have gone rogue and must be reined in. The Vatican on Monday censured Sister Margaret A. Farley, who teaches at Yale Divinity School, over a 2006 book she wrote that the church said is out of step with official church teaching on human sexuality. Just weeks before, the Vatican issued a major report condemning the groups that represent most American nuns, saying those organizations had promoted “radical feminism” while neglecting teachings against homosexuality and abortion. “The Vatican believes that there is a climate of dissent in some quarters of the women’s religious life in America,” said John Allen, CNN’s Vatican analyst. “They are trying to deal with that, and both these developments speak to that.” CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In its reprimand of Farley, the church focused on her book “Just Love: A Framework for Christian Sexual Ethics,” which it said condones masturbation and homosexuality. “Masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action,” the church said in a statement Monday that characterized “homosexual acts” as “acts of grave depravity.” The reprimand warned church officials not to use Farley’s book, raising eyebrows in Catholic circles because she is one of the country’s most respected female Catholic theologians. The Rev. Brian Linnane, a Jesuit priest and president of Loyola University Maryland, did his doctoral work in theology under Farley. He said the notification could have a chilling effect on academic freedom at Catholic institutions. “There’s a sense that the vocation of the theologian is diminished in this notification to where it’s just, ‘Keep repeating what we’ve already said and don’t question it, don’t critique it, don’t try to help us make it more adequate.’ And I think that’s troubling,” he said. Linnane said people who read the book knew that Farley was departing from Catholic teaching in certain areas. “She did not write a book about sexual practices. She wrote a new framework to think about sexual ethics, which looks at justice, instead of procreation or abstinence, which have been part of the tradition,” he said. “I don’t think it’s a question of right or wrong so much as I think it is of the ability to raise critical questions, to try and develop new understandings of the theological tradition and in this case of the moral tradition.” Linnane said the Vatican is right to be sure that public ministers such as priests and nuns be on the same page doctrinally as the church leaders, and he noted the rebuke was specifically against the book, not the author. “There’s no silencing of Sister Farley in the notification, there’s no threat to her membership in her religious community; it’s just about the book, which everyone agrees probably shouldn’t be taught in Catholic seminaries, certainly shouldn’t be taught in religious education classes for young persons. Everyone agrees it’s theological speculation,” he said. The censure came days after the leadership that represents most American nuns concluded a meeting in Washington to devise a response to an April Vatican assessment that accused the nuns of hosting speakers who preached “radical feminism” at an annual gathering of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious. The group represents about 80% of American nuns. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter The report also said the nuns were too focused on social justice and not enough on opposing abortion, euthanasia and same-sex marriage. The recent reprimands come about a year after U.S. Catholic bishops rebuked another nun, Sister Elizabeth Johnson at Fordham University, for her writings. The bishops said that Johnson falsely claims the Catholic Church’s names are “metaphors that do not apply to the reality of God within the traditional Catholic understanding.” “In the last 12 months you’ve seen two of America’s leading Catholic nuns who are theologians in the cross hairs,” Allen said. “I’m not sure there’s anyone left of their stature to go after.” Many parts of the American nuns’ community and the Catholic academic world have come out swinging against the Vatican critiques. In a statement, Farley defended her work, saying it was not meant as an official church teaching. Farley said she feared the Vatican “misrepresents (perhaps unwittingly) the aims of my work and the nature of it as a proposal that might be in service of, not against, the church and its faithful people.” On Friday, the leaders of the American nuns whom the Vatican had criticized said the Holy See’s report was “based on unsubstantiated accusations and (was) the result of a flawed process that lacked transparency” and that the report had “caused scandal and pain throughout the church community.” Representatives of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious are flying to Rome this week to try to chart a course forward with Vatican officials. Church experts said that the nuns could accept the assessment, negotiate or resign en masse and form a new group outside the watchful eye of the Vatican. The reprimands originate from the Vatican’s powerful Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Pope Benedict XVI led for decades before his elevation to the papacy. In interviews conducted while he held that earlier post, Benedict spoke often about growing the church by pruning - becoming smaller but more devout before expanding. It is hard to know what the reaction to the fight between American nuns and the Vatican is within the American Catholic community, but there have been some pockets of protest against the Vatican’s actions. “It’s one thing when the Vatican goes after a theologian, because most rank-and-file Catholics don’t know any theologians,” Allen said. “But so many have been educated by sisters in a school, taken care of by a sister at a hospital or know a nun in their parish that is running the office." He added, “When there’s a perception that sisters are under fire, there’s a tendency to support them.” There is evidence that the reprimand against Farley has raised her profile as a theologian. 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Gravity is not up for debate ! ............E = mc2..........(U–Pb).................two math formulas..........that do not lie or sin !!!..........
Free speech helps educate the masses................POLITICIANS too !
Where do morals come from?
By Kelly Murray, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/12/where-do-morals-come-from/#comments
Gravity is not up for debate ! ............E = mc2..........(U–Pb).................two math formulas..........that do not lie or sin !!!..........
BY the way ...................Splat goes a fairy in the sky !...............bye bye tinker bell !
Einstein's Gravity Theory Passes Toughest Test Yet
Apr. 25, 2013 — A strange stellar pair nearly 7,000 light-years from Earth has provided physicists with a unique cosmic laboratory for studying the nature of gravity. The extremely strong gravity of a massive neutron star in orbit with a companion white dwarf star puts competing theories of gravity to a test more stringent than any available before
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130425142250.htm
Hey James Madison................religion has none it looks like.............with the comments on this blog.
The Big question is ETHICS ! does religion have any ?
The Ethics of Resurrecting Extinct Species
Apr. 8, 2013 — At some point, scientists may be able to bring back extinct animals, and perhaps early humans, raising questions of ethics and environmental disruption.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130408165955.htm
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Dinosaur Egg Study Supports Evolutionary Link Between Birds and Dinosaurs: How Troodon Likely Hatched Its Young
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418104324.htm
And NO ANGELS the pope KICKED them OFF the TEAM last year !
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
the wrong path is Adam and Eve !
Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought
Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305145821.htm
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Remember : Adam had to POKE himself hard with his OWN BONE to create Eve.
No god(s) needed................... Old. DNA works..................also catches crooks !
Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History
Apr. 23, 2013 — Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130423134037.htm
Ca-nabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) – National Cancer Insti-tute
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The fact...............the earth is to old for this nonsemse ! Time to EVOLVE !
Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle
Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm
For what...................... ? Make sure to read what the pope said !
Where do morals come from?
By Kelly Murray, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/
Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.
Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’
Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
bears his name as the “God particle.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/
Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/
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Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/
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The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/comment-page-137/#comment-2281915
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NASA: Three planets found are some of best candidates so far for habitable worlds outside our solar system.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/planet-discovery/index.html
NASA: Mars could have supported life
Star Dust we are
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The ORIGIN story is bullsh-it...............so is the bible............... nasty !
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
Scientists have unearthed the first direct signs of cheesemaking, at a site in Poland that dates back 7,500 years.
Human Evolution
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2cHumanevo.shtml
BBC. Planet of the Apemen. Battle for Earth 1. Ho-mo Erectus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUliLKSJ4bQ&feature=player_embedded
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Einstein letter, set for auction, shows scientist challenging idea of God, being 'chosen'
By Jessica Ravitz, CNN
Decades before atheist scientist and author Richard Dawkins called God a "delusion," one world-renowned physicist – Albert Einstein – was weighing in on faith matters with his own strong words.
“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends,” Einstein wrote in German in a 1954 letter that will be auctioned on eBay later this month. "No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/category/culture-science/
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Cheech & Chong's History of 420
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The fact...............the earth is to old ...........time to EVOLVE !.
Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle
Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm
Dover Trial Transcripts............................................. FACTS.
Below are the complete transcripts from the Dover Trial. Thanks to our friends at the National Center for Science Education for helping us fill in the missing transcripts.
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Earth From Space
Detailed satellite images reveal the web of connections that sustain life on Earth. Aired February 13, 2013 on PBS
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"Earth From Space" is a groundbreaking two-hour special that reveals a spectacular new space-based vision of our planet. Produced in extensive consultation with NASA scientists, NOVA takes data from earth-observing satellites and transforms it into dazzling visual sequences, each one exposing the intricate and surprising web of forces that sustains life on earth. Viewers witness how dust blown from the Sahara fertilizes the Amazon; how a vast submarine "waterfall" off Antarctica helps drive ocean currents around the world; and how the sun's heating up of the southern Atlantic gives birth to a colossally powerful hurricane. From the microscopic world of water molecules vaporizing over the ocean to the magnetic field that is bigger than Earth itself, the show reveals the astonishing beauty and complexity of our dynamic planet.
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Scriptures says in Matthew 6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." These days it seems like far too many people in Christianity are worshipping at the altar of political correctness than they are about following the teachings of their specific religious communities, be it Roman Catholic, Protestant or Eastern Orthodox. My question is if you don't believe in or can't accept the teachings or consistenly rebel against or refuse to adhere to them, why do you bother staying in your faith communities? What's the point? Really? Don't you realize that atheists and secular humanists and the irreligious are laughing at us? They delight in calling all Christians "hypocrites" because of our endless tendency to not let the left hand know that the right is doing. It makes us look schizophrenic. Christians: If you are NOT consistenly following the teachings and NOT going by faith, and are unrepentant about it...then yes, you are being a hypocrite and in a state of sin! If you feel like you do, then it's better to leave the churches and be HONEST about what you believe/don't believe and live accordingly. This is particularly true of those who are in a ministry position: get in line or get out! If a person wants to be a priest, monk or nun, the BE ONE and stop trying to have things both ways. It's misleading the congregation and that's not fair.
If you are catholic, I don't understand how you can be angry about this. As a catholic, you have to follow what the vatican and the pope says as they are the church leaders of the religion. You cannot pick and choose what to believe in, or else you are not being catholic. There is no "modern". That is what it states, and thats what you have to follow. If you don't, you cannot call yourself a catholic.
As a Catholic , I have to say " Leave those Nuns alone " .......Just because the Church said it , doesn't make it right.....Leave them alone !
The church isn't JUST the hierarchy.
Benedict is putting all the lights out in Catholicism. There will be nothing left but fear and shame when he's done. And the children will just go on being abused by the all-male "celibate" priesthood.
Yes, drink that Kool Aid. You have no choice.
Agree, and I'm no longer Catholic. I'm Eastern Orthodox and the same applies there. Anyplace in Christianity it should apply.
that's it Rome, miss the big picture again. Forget about the ped o philes, go after your OWN nuns! (They're not young boys in secret, fyi)
That's what this is about...All Ratzi cares about is getting the priestophiles off the hook.
In light of the underground community of abuse and depravity that exists in the priesthood, I see this condemnation as little more than the excessive whinings of the proverbial kid caught with his own hand in the cookie jar. Let's not focus on issues...let's focus on dogma, which is the very thing that drove me away. Hypocrites.
Watch out, these nuns are going wild! Before we know it, they'll start to think!
The Catholic Church, doesn't seem to understand how this could work against them , instead of considering how to bring Catholics back to church , like myself , I quit going in 2008 , when it was clearly supporting the always, self serving Republican Party . They are once again alienating Catholics . I am amazed by the Courage, these Nuns have shown, in the face of terrible threats, by the Vatican . They deserve our complete support and total respect !!!!!!
The Vatican's new action plan on distracting from the pedophile priest scandal: "Look! Women acting uppity! Let's get 'em!!!!"
They should just nail a "No Girls Allowed' sign on the door of every church.
Ah, why all the uproar? After all, they're JUST women. Who cares what they think? Seriously, this gives you a pretty good idea of what the RCC thinks about women.
So, because they are women anything they say must be immediately accepted?
I am glad that they were not women the scientists who performed the now discredited study on neutrinos traveling faster than light. Otherwise, the scientists questioning the results would have been blamed and misogynists by the radical feminists.
Let's see :
“There’s a sense that the vocation of the scientist is diminished in these challenges to where it’s just, ‘Keep repeating what we’ve already said about the speed of light and don’t question it, don’t critique it, don’t try to help us make physics go in a different, perhaps more adequate, direction'."
Yes, I can think of THOUSANDS of differences between this and the crackdown of nuns (and I am pretty sure I will get any "answers" saying that), none of them changes the fact these nuns are wrong (according to Church's doctrine), and it does not make it any difference that they are women.
@johnny the Church sounds just like Muslims, they both limit women's voices.
Thank god i'm an atheist !!!!!!
I'm confused. I thought atheism was the result of "reason" (which is seldom observed in a pure state).
I'm not an atheist or theist I'm agnostic. No one can prove or disprove God. Muslims, Catholics, etc, threat women lowly.
Not very original, are you?
This headline demonstrates an attempt at what you call "inductive reasoning." The Vatican writes a letter to ONE nun, therefore it is "Intensifying (its)Crackdown on (ALL) American Nuns." STUPID CNN, but hey, if you hate the Catholic Church, and you want to make hay, what else can you do?
"Crackdown", "watchdog". The use of such words tell us more about the media and salivating church haters than they do about the church.
ONE nun? Where have you been?
Look up
"US nuns' group to challenge Vatican censure "
By RACHEL ZOLL
AP Religion Writer I think that was from June 2, 2012
The nuns that are being censured now, comprise I think, approximately 75-85% of ALL the US nuns. Not just One.
But attacks on US nuns are not new news, it has been going for ages, before the 1970's when the all male heirarchy of the Catholic Church so attempted to control and dominate US nuns, that 400 Immaculate Heart Sisters of Los Angeles, elected to renounce their vows, and sever ties with the Roman Catholic Church. "Witness to Integrity" by Anita M. Caspary I.M.H., Ph.D. is an excellent book which thoroughly examines this very sad and controversial episode in the U.S. Catholic Church.
FOUR HUNDRED nuns were expendable then, and it doesn't look like much has changed.
If you are a member of the Catholic Church, you shouldn't take this lightly.
If you are a woman, you shouldn't take this lightly.
I fear that these issues have larger societal implications. Perhaps they speak not only to Catholic males trying to control Catholic females (here I'm referring to Priests and nuns), but it seems that Catholic dogma pretty well limits the lives, opportunities,and choices, of ALL good Catholic females.
I am not "Hating on" the Catholic Church, in fact I may be grieving for it.
I hate the Catholic Church, don't mind saying it. Paterno-ing pedophiles is kinda a deal breaker in my world. 🙂
Catholic women are seeking a voice, and the Papacy will have nun uv it.
but what is that voice? Is the voice the voice of rebellion and advocating sinful immoral lifestyles...or is it a voice that encourages people not to conform to the ways of the world but instead to transform it? The latter is what nuns are supposed to do Not just nuns, either. It's expected by all who believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not always an easy path, but a worthwhile one.
In the USA I am keeping tally of the surnames of priests and bishops that touched little boys. So far the Irish surnames are winning at 78%
The Holy See should crackdown on the Irish-bishops in the USA, these men are stealing money from the ethnic Polish and Lithuainian churches. Then they close down the church or tell the people it is nolonger a Polish church. The Irish cholera of Allentown PA, better stay the 'F' away from Saint Casimirs church in Shenandoah, PA
I will not play around this time FAT over-weight-PIG
Uh, someone might want to take a closer look at this guy. I'm sensing anger that is beyond filling squirt guns with holy water. I hope I'm not reading about him on CNN in a few days.
Just save everyone the trouble & shoot yourself now. No need to take others with you.
The Holy See should crackdown on the Irish-bishops in the USA, these men are stealing money from the ethnic Polish and Lithuainian churches. Then they close down the church or tell the people it is nolonger a Polish church. The Irish cholera of Allentown PA, better stay the 'F' away from Saint Casimirs church in Shenandoah, PA
I will not play around this time FAT over-weight-PIG
Obviously you never learned anything in Saint Casimir's Church in Shenandoah, PA. I suggest you move to a more tolerant Church.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm rooting for the Irish priest to shut your lame church down, if your hate is an example of the pews.
Sick 'em Pope !!!
If you read the letter from the Vatican it's obvious they are concerned that the book will be mistaken for Catholic teaching. They don't really care who reads it, they care that some might think, becasue the author is Catholic nun, that the teachings in it are officially Catholic. They are not.
If a member of Obama's administration writes a book saying that the Tea Party is right, taxes shoud be cut for the rich, and Obamacare should be repealed, the president has every right to distance himself from that book and the author.
Where is the controversy here?
in that case a simple "Statement" from the church probably would have cleared up any "confusion".
And as a good Catholic nun, I'm sure the sister who wrote the book would have been happy to put a forward in the book Clarifying that issue.
This is WAY bigger than just rebuking one nun, or the church distancing itself from one book....
Clearly women make these guys very nervous.
you know they do !! lololol I have seen some sisters wearing their running shoes too. have to be fast these days . 🙂