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June 7th, 2012
05:04 PM ET
Same-sex ceremony on Army post draws fireBy Alan Duke, CNN (CNN) - A same-sex ceremony between an enlisted woman and a civilian woman on a U.S. Army post last month drew protests from lawmakers Thursday. The "private religious ceremony" took place at Fort Polk in Louisiana in May, post spokesman Scott Stearns said, but he would confirm few other details. Rep. John Fleming, a Louisiana Republican whose congressional district includes the Army post, said the military confirmed to him that the same-sex ceremony was performed by an Army chaplain in the chapel. The incident was an inevitable consequence of the end of the don't ask, don't tell policy in September, which previously banned homosexuals from military service, Fleming said. FULL STORY
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So this is called a fish sandwich?
I love watching wingnuts and fundies freak out over this.
It is their acknowledgment that they're losing, and that gay marriage isn't their goal: silencing gay citizens is. This was not a marriage... no laws were broken... and yet they are freaking out.
I'll continue to laugh at their loss as much as their reliance on mythology.
'Tis amusing, certainly.
LIKE!
So what?
one qu eer story
I warn you, yes, every last one of you. You are all going to die. It is too late to get out of it. Death will come to every last one of you!
Gosh. What a news flash! Alert the media!
Wow! You're visionary!
Death comes to us all, silly.
Yep. Life is short and death comes to us all. Why waste time judging how others choose to live?
Too late? Was there a cut-off?
How can anyone complain that a service-member is using an on-base facility for a personal religious ceremony, which they ALL are allowed to do? Do these same complainers want to ban muslim weddings? Wiccan nuptials?
How about other religious servcies for a variety of other religions? Which ones do we ban, and who gets to decide?
Qu eers are in an unnatural state. History has long since decided.
LM,
Actually...yes on the Wiccan nuptuals...and anything else Wiccan, Pagan, Druid, etc. Sad, but there are haters everywhere.
~ M
@ common sense needed; Science is discovering that being gay is indeed more natural than previously known. This isn't only a human phenomenon.
common sense needed
Really? When did history decide this? And why wasn't I informed?
As soon as Gay Marriage is passed, I am so going to start fighting for polygamy. I need more wives. The more the better. And each of them can take on multiple husbands/wife's as they see fit too.. It'll be a huge endless cycle trying to figure out whose married to who!!
I always wonder why so many anti-same se x marriage folks support polygamy? Seems odd, doesn't it?
It's like they can't tell the difference between 1 and 2.
I honestly agree, polygamy should be legal. Consenting adults should be able to engage in whatever type of relationship they choose. I happily choose to remain monogamous with my wife.
There's a Romney villlage in Mexico that you would be welcomed in.
Herbert, was your wife looking over your shoulder as you were typing?
For you.
A thought to consider without a typical ego response
Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
The world denounces truth....
Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.
Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.
The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.
Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.
We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .
Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
See the truth...
do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..
Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .
Trancsend the temporal world.
Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .
Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.
Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.
Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....
Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.
You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.
Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.
I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .
Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?
Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.
once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it
You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus
my testimony
Silly spam, of course.
But, isn't opening with "For you. A thought to consider without a typical ego response", displaying a most irritating amount of ego? You are making assumptions about people you have never met.
huh?
Huh?
Someone must be talking LSD.
Huh? More senseless Christian nonsense....
I'd label this dreck as spam, but that would be an insult to a fine processed meat product.
Please keep responses short and to the point, please. No one wants to wade through so much jibberjabber.
Heller Wahnsinn!
And remember: Jesus never said anything about GLBT people. Not one word. He wasn't fond of divorce though, which straight people do at a rate of 51 percent.
It's okay to call gays sinners because Christians are sinners to? Consider repenting of your Christianity and then you will understand what a bogus statement that is.
More pc crap shoved up the butt of America.
You seem familiar with shoving things up butts.
Yeah, Frank, you tell them. Just like when them Nigras demanded equal rights. How uppity is they?
Lol @ the atheist trolls who think they can change life by hiding on the internet
Lol @ the christian trolls who don't understand what it is to play. 😉
On the Internet? Really? Just where on the Internet?
LOL @ at the theist slaves who think they speak for god
Jesus is in the backyard playing with the unicorns.
Prayer changes things
Prayer doesn’t not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
Atheism is a lot healthier than belief in a non-existent god. Pray all you want, it won;t change a thing!
Not healthy for "other living things"? Guess I'd better get my dogs saved. Fiddo, sit... Fiddo, Speak, Now Fiddo, beg... come on... beg for forgiveness.
Really? Then why are little kids still dying from cancer? How many Holocaust children were saved by prayer? And why are atheists like me still alive and kicking? Or perhaps you don't pray for such things. Maybe you pray for personal wealth or for your sports teams to win.
hey pet none of those things happened to you
Cant complain
Why do Christians not understand that THEY picked this fight? Leave gay people alone. Go have your religion. I don't expect you to be gay – don't expect me to act like a Christian.
I'm so tired of the Christians in this nation bullying the gays. It's cruel and someday you'll all be known as bigots.
"It's cruel and someday you'll all be known as bigots."
That day is already here.
what tells you it's cruel? Where does that come from? It's the pressure of society.Pressure to think like everyone else.
Most "Christians" who spend all their time hating gays are usually gay themselves..
I couldn't agree more. I'm sick to death of hearing about how the "gay agenda" is pushing beliefs on this bible thumpers. THEY are in fact the ones with the agenda. And for those of you calling gay marriage or equal rights "special consideration" for gays-the trunk of my car is hot on summer days. Wanna go for a ride?
Case closed again!
So, what's your point besides troll-baiting atheists and being an idiot?
You case is closed, but not for bringing up Stalin, you mindless shill. Your case is closed because Christians have murdered in the name of Christianity for thousands of years. I don't have a thing against Christ, or all Christians, only the freakishly stupid one's who see fit to force their views on the rest of us.
People like Stalin killed not because they were atheists, but because they were power-mad despots.
This has been explained to you ignorant fundiots over and over and over. Yet, you, and dozens of other ignorant fundiots turn around and repost the exact same lie.
Why?
Hitler was a Christian that killed millions case closed.
Yet it show atheists it's not religion.It's people
Futhermore disproved the strong delusion most atheists have
@I am the god of science bow down to me atheists; ......... "God of science"? Omg, you really believe atheists worship something, don't you? Can't let go that they have NO belief in a God. You're silly.
I'm sure there are quite a few Christian murderers. Do their actions condemn Christianity? If an atheist kills, it taints all the good and decent atheists, but when a Christian kills, it's an isolated incident?
5 Reasons Why Gays in the Military is Wrong
1) Being gay is not natural. Real service members always reject unnatural things like body armor, camouflage clothing, and vaccinations.
2) Gay service members will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gays in the military is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
4) Gay service members will change the foundation of the military; it could never adapt to new social norms. Just like they haven't adapted to APCs, indoor plumbing, or electronic communication.
5) The military has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women can't fly planes, bla cks still can't serve with whites, and all ships still run on wind power.
/sarcasm off
Who are you to say being gay isn't natrual? Being gay is not a choice, being straight is not a choice. Sometimes nature wires us differently. Gay people have existed as long as straight people.
solex please read the last line of my post.
I wish the happy brides well on their marriage.
Why do Christians view the body, and it's desires as dirty? According to christian mythology, god created man in his present form. Well, man's present form includes a VERY powerful se.xual drive. Why do some Christians view this drive as an anathema to god?
Do you know what lust is? Yes we all have a s.e.x. drive but we all must choose to act upon that.
Let's not forget the incest and pedophilia endemic to their belief in Adam and Eve and the families that came thereafter!
@Stalin
Lust is uncontrolled s.exual desire. Now please answer my question. Why do some Christians view the s.ex drive as an anathema to god?
"I don't know much" – if I say that, it keeps me honest. Can you say that?
Have you noticed that it's always these hômophobic, fundiot, bigots who spend such an inordinate amount of time fixated on and fantasizing about diddling the doggie, screwing their sibling, and fornicating with their Ford? And they focus on what gay men do. They never focus on what lesbians do.
Hmmmmmmm
I'm pretty sure they focus on lesbians. A lot. I hear there are websites where they can do that.
You must be interested.
Us "normal" guys fantasize about lesbians – as if we had a shot!
But have you notice how these fundiot, hômophobic cretins alway fixate man-on-man sèx?
that's because Christ liked Lesbians
1: 114
Simon Peter said to Him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are
not worthy of Life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her
male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you
males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the
Kingdom of Heaven."
opps that from Toma (Thomas)
Do atheists consider themselves gods? They don't believe in God yet think they KNOW everything there is to know about life? "religion did this,religion did that".Not has have I ever heard them say people did it.Never.
No wonder they have a hard time accepting what faith means..wait until life tests your own human nature and see if you can say you want become violent or murderous.
When a person threatens your life see if you can kill to defend yourself.
Think you are a "good person"? Wait until that test comes
"When a person threatens your life see if you can kill to defend yourself" and "No wonder they have a hard time accepting what faith means..wait until life tests your own human nature and see if you can say you want become violent or murderous." ----- for the love of cooked food, what're you talking about? "Can an atheist kill?" Is that what you're asking? And if that IS what you're asking, are you impying that christians pull the trigger faster? And then....... wouldn't that make you LESS like Jesus??? I have so much pity for you misguided people. Omg. Or better yet, "Oyg" since it's only one God that belongs to christians or something.
So you're saying that if I became a christian, it would make me angry and murderous? I can buy that.
Stalin was an atheist that killed millions
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Relax cupcake, just because some of do not accept the words of other men and authority on the Gods, does not make some of us Atheists. If you want to get on your knees an drub your face in your Christ's sac, more power to you. Dont sweat that some people view your Christ as a delsuional insane person. Get over yoruself and quit worrying about what others think, feel or view the Gods as.
ps I can only dream about being able to see the Christian and Muslims fed to the lions. ........sigh.
Your god created more souls that will go to hell than he did that will go to heaven.
Republicans ALWAYS say that if a teacher has students that are failing – the teacher is a FAILURE, too. That means your god is an abject failure. I think you might do better with the religion that believes that the Earth rests on the back of a Giant Space Turtle.
What's that? You ask, "What is the Giant Space Turtle standing on?"
Well, it's Turtles, all the way down.
They don't believe in God yet think they KNOW everything there is to know about life?
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I'm not an atheist, in my experience its the ultra-religious that seem to suggest they have all the answers. For me, I always admit "I/we don't know". We can't know, at this time. Organized religion is a result of man's desire to know, but it doesn't provide answers. You can believe in God, without believing in man-made religion.
"Think you are a "good person"? Wait until that test comes"
Religious people find it very annoying that people don't need God to be good, as science has now incontestably proved.
For millennia, we've been brainwashed into believing that we needed the Almighty to redeem us from an essentially corrupt nature. Left to our own devices, people would quickly devolve into beasts, more violent, tactless, aggressive, and selfish, than we already are.
Today, we know that this isn't true. With the discovery of mirror neurons by Italian neuroscientist Giaccomo Rizzolatti in the 1990s, we now have physiological proof of why - and how - our species became hard-wired for goodness. Mirror neurons are miraculous cells in the brain whose sole purpose is to harmonize us with our environments. By reflecting the outside world inward, we actually become each other - a little bit; neurologically changed by what is happening around us. Mirror neurons are the reason that we have empathy and can feel each other's pain. It is because of mirror neurons that you blush when you see someone else humiliated, flinch when someone else is struck, and can't resist the urge to laugh when seeing a group struck with the giggles. (Indeed, people who test for "contagious yawning" tend to be more empathic.) These tiny mirrors are the key to most things noble and good inside us.
It is through mirror neurons - not God - that we redeem ourselves, achieve salvation, and are "reborn" in virtuous ways once co-opted by religions. Evolution knew what she was doing. A group of successful cooperators has a much higher chance of thriving than a population of selfish liars. In spite of what we read in the headlines, the ratio of bad to good deeds done on any given day across our planet holds at close to zero any day of the year. Although we are ethical works-in-progress, the vast majority of us are naturally positive creatures - meaning not harmful to our environments - most of the time in most of the ways that matter. And God has nothing to do with it.
Spirituality does but God doesn't. Evolutionary psychologists tell us that our brains are hard-wired with a five-toned moral organ that focuses on a quintet of ethical values - one of which is purity, or sacredness. In a world that can sometimes be disgusting, we evolved an upper tier of emotional longing - the aspiration for purity - to keep us balanced in this satyricon of carnal delights (where animality beckons and frequently wins). Our need for sacredness is part of our ancient survival apparatus, and manifests in what we call faith, the need to connect with that sacred dimension. This has been the primary purpose of religion, of course - to congregate people for the Greater Good - but God has been, in fact, the divine carrot. The important part was communion, a context in which to transcend ourselves, if only for an hour on Sundays. Without this ability "to turn off the Me and turn on the We," moral psychologist Jonathan Haidt tells us, our species would still be wandering around as groups of nomads, unable to create a civilization.
Aside from mirror neurons, there's oxytocin, the molecule of connection (also known as the molecule of love). It's fascinating to learn that the vagus nerve produces more oxytocin when we witness virtuous behavior in others that makes us want to be better people ourselves. We are wired by nature to be elevated at the sight of other people's goodness, mirror neurons and oxytocin conspiring to improve the species. Miraculous though it is, this natural human phenomenon has nothing to do with theology.
YeahRight
tl-dr.
It wasn't religion that did it, it was the BELIEF in religion that has caused crusaders to kill in the name of it. Any belief that makes it OK in anyone's mind that murdering another is OK...that is not a true religion...that is a fanatic.
@jerk-off that calls itself "Stalin blah blah blah" – your entire post is retarded. I think you're a troll trying to draw out atheists because no one besides a christard can actually be that stupid with your Stalin comment and "do atheists think they are god" comments.
I especially enjoyed – "When a person threatens your life see if you can kill to defend yourself. Think you are a "good person"? Wait until that test comes." – How idiotic. I'm retired Army, trust me when I say if you threaten me or my family, I will not hesitate to kill you if the circ.umstances warrant it. This does not make me a good person or a bad person, it makes me a non-POS.
No, I don't think that a religious person would 'pull the trigger' faster.
But I do believe, from preponderance of history, that a religious person will have many many varied reasons far less sensible than defending themselves to pull it.
Um . . .weren't the women in this ceremony Christians? I think you are a little off-topic.
Please adjust your medication. You've lost the ability to think clearly.
you can't know every name and their life.
Only the stories produced.
You really don't know anything or can think for yourself