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June 8th, 2012
12:22 PM ET

Police arrest Georgia megachurch pastor after disturbance at home

By John Murgatroyd and John Blake, CNN

Atlanta (CNN)– Megachurch pastor Creflo Dollar was arrested in suburban Atlanta for an alleged assault on his 15-year-old daughter, police said Friday.

Deputies in Georgia's Fayette County responded to a call about a domestic disturbance about 1 a.m. Friday. Dollar's daughter said she argued with her father over attending a party, said Investigator Brent Rowan of the Fayette County Sheriff's Office.

The daughter says the argument got physical.

She told the deputies that her father charged her, put his hands around her throat and began to choke her, according to a police report. She said he then slammed her to the ground, punched her and beat her with his shoe.

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Dollar's daughter was able to get away and dial 911, Rowan said.

Deputies noticed a scratch on the daughter's neck and arrested Dollar on charges of simple battery, family violence and child cruelty.

Deputies also spoke with another daughter, 19, who corroborated her sister's account of what happened.

Dollar was booked into the Fayette County jail early Friday. A judge set his bail at $5,000 during a morning hearing, and he was released.

Dollar said in a statement released to the media from his attorney, "As a father I love my children and I always have their best interest at heart at all times, and I would never use my hand to ever cause bodily harm to my children. The facts in this case will be handled privately to further protect my children. My family thanks you for your prayers and continued support."

Dollar is a senior pastor of World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta, which claims about 30,000 members and has an $18 million sanctuary that resembles a golden-domed spaceship atop a hill.

He built an international religious empire, with broadcasts of his sermons beamed worldwide and speaking engagements in Europe.

A barrel-chested man who favors impeccably tailored pinstripe suits in the pulpit, Dollar preaches the Prosperity Gospel, a message that says God will bless faithful Christians with wealth and debt-free living.

Since he started his ministry in an elementary school cafeteria in 1986, Dollar has earned both praise and criticism.

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Supporters say he has preached a message that's financially empowered his parishioners and challenged the idea that Christians should be ashamed to be rich.

Critics call him "Cash-Flow Dollar," a pulpit prima donna who once refused to allow parishioners to touch him. They say his message perverts the Gospel.

Dollar has had brushes with the law before, according to a lengthy 2000 profile in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

He was once cited for contempt of court for refusing to give a deposition during the divorce proceedings of boxer Evander Holyfield, who attended his church, according to the AJC.

The AJC profile also said that 100 police officers were admonished for receiving $1,000 apiece from Dollar. Dollar sent the money to honor the officers' community service, but the act was criticized because it came a month after two traffic tickets Dollar received were downgraded to warnings, the profile said.

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Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Crime

soundoff (3,399 Responses)
  1. REUBEN

    I do not know where prosperity fits within the Gospel! As one missionary said," with the money the tele-evengelists spend on jewellery, car, and clothes, he can build a few churches in 3rd world countries".

    They preach the judgement of God, and they themselves are not fearful of it!! Hypocrisy!! Christianity is not what you know about Christ, it is living (day to day) according the word, which takes a lifetime to achieve.

    June 8, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
  2. MuyGuapo

    For most African Americans, it seems that church is just a cultural thing. It is not about living like a disciple of Jesus. It is more about living like everybody else does and checking in on Sunday for some good time gospel religion with lots of amens and high energy singing.

    June 8, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Kay

      And you know this...how?

      June 8, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Really?

      So I guess you have met "most African Americans." You are a pompous a$$. And any one who calls himself "muyguapo" has serious issues....

      June 8, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Why would it be anything else for a group of people who are mindful of their history? Surely they must acknowledge that Jeezus was not the god their ancestors worshi-ped before being taken from Africa. They only accepted (or pretended to accept) Jeebus to ap-pease Whi-tey.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • OhPleaseYerKillinMeSTOP

      Fine. That is all church is for most people... their affordable country club membership . EXCEPT their fatcat ministers are dumbing down this nation with their medaeval opposition to science plus these singing and dancing "worshippers" afford it by sticking ME and every other individual homeowner with the massive infrastructure burden for their crystal cathedrals. TAX CHURCHES NOW

      June 8, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
  3. Xira

    So the daughter gets violent with her dad, the dad does(or dosen't, did the cops lie? Did she self-inflict?) leave mearly a scratch on her, and he goes to jail?

    I'd hate to be this girl when he gets out. She's should be sent to the streets for a few months.

    June 8, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Jubril

      You know the kind of humiliation the Pastor would have gone through in Jail, I will throw her out and disown her

      June 8, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • MuyGuapo

      Going to jail for a scratch on her? Sounds like the cops are really eager to throw a minister in jail, especially a black minister. I can see those cops with a big smile on their faces.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Kay

      Why on earth do all you folks keep ignoring the fact that the guy's 19 year old daughter told the police that the 15 year old was telling the truth about what her dad did to her???

      June 8, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Lisa

      It's unfortunate, but the15 year old now has the upper hand. Daddy, tell me not to go to a party and I will embarrass you in front of the police. Daddy, if you sat any bad word to me, I will call the media.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
  4. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    Probably the most guaranteed way to get your kids interested in something is to tell them not to do it. And in particular, religious absoluti-sm would do the tr-ick. No parties. No s-ex. No rock, rap, or otherwise unorthodox music. No drugs or booze. No FUN! No wonder she wanted to PARTY!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  5. kiss me

    Sounds like a needed but wipping to me! B-ass-B!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  6. Anita Brooks

    Fast girl, take AWAY EVERYTHING from her, no more fancy clothes, cell phone, and all the OTHER unnecessities the average teen girl (or boy) will probably never have a chance to experience. Ungrateful, disobedient, whatever happened to "Children OBEY your parents"....Sorry you lost your temper Pastor, but I applaud you, been in your shoes before and it hurts as a parent when you try to do ALL you can and they don't appreciate or show appreciation. Years later, they come back and say how sorry they are and then the REAL PAYBACK is when they have children of their own and the tides are turned...oh so sweet PayBack is a _____!!!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      I remind you that procreation is a choice, so it is possible that there may be no pay back.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • dcc1906

      Rev's 15-year-old daughter's first car just downgraded from a 2013 GLK-Class SUV Mercedes to a Kia Rio..

      June 8, 2012 at 10:45 pm |
    • Lisa

      I had to do the same thing with my son. The days he kept rolling his eyes at me? One more eye roll, and he would come home, go into his room and find a mattress on the floor, a pair of shoes and two sets of clothes. Everything else would be gone, and he could earn it back one item at a time. And I mean he was nice for a week, he would get one shoe. And he wouldn't get everything back.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
  7. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    I remember hearing a sermon from long ago (back when I was still searching, still under the impression that there must be some magical religion to believe in that will unlock the door to "god")....One of these store-front church charlatans talking about how you gotta let god put his sperm into ya and some kinda jive. HA HA HA!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How do you think 'mike' and 'Son of the South' were conceived?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
  8. Lisa

    Spoiled brat! This minister is not one that would assault anyone on the street. When our son was that age or older. he would get in my face. Pull his car. his money, his freedom. What I wanted to do is take off his head. That girl. If she really thinks she can talk back to her father and be so belligerent to him to his face that the confrontation got violent, she needs to go live somewhere else. A relative. A homeless shelter. That didn't start with the Dad. it started with her. That she was willing to call the police on her father for a scratch on her neck. You know what, little girl? Your father might have had enough with you.

    Get her out of the house. Let her fend for herself.

    June 8, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Sonja

      The sister corroborates the girl's story. All sorts of men and women can do bad things in private, even if they are heroes in public. The problem is that no one wants to believe a powerless kid over a well renowned father. Myself, my siblings, and my mother were beaten and cowed often by my father before my mother finally divorced him. In the 1960's, no one would believe anything wrong of a doctor. Now... well, there've been thousands of pastors and priests who have committed crimes of violence against children. Why is the pastor you like so immune?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Anita Brooks

      AMEN Lisa.....get to stepping and see how sweet the streets and those supposedly supporters will be to you :).

      June 8, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • Anthony

      So you witnessed the whole thing?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • john

      this is not the way to treat a child, maybe he was upset. but when you are teaching the word of God you are suppose to know how to handle these types of situations. he is accepted to be like christ. but not all are what they say. simple answer would jesus have acted this way, i dont think so. this man is human. but he should be disipline for his actions.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • dcc1906

      Rev's 15-year-old daughter's first car just downgraded from a 2013 GLK-Class SUV Mercedes to a Kia Rio..

      June 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • Kay

      Did you not bother actually reading the whole article? The part where the police say the 19 year old sister substantiates the girl's story, NOT the dad's version?

      I can't believe people like you who want to blame the victim. Who want to dismiss a victim's being assaulted simply because she "only" had a scratch on her neck. Should she have suffered serious bodily harm before it would be OK with you to call 911? Perhaps she should have been killed first? Would that have been good enough for you?

      There is absolutely nothing in this story that demonstrates that this girl was a "spoiled brat". it sounds like you're simply retaining a whole lot of resentment about your *own*kid. But think about this...just who was it who raised their son to where he felt he could get in your face? It sure wasn't the rest of us.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • Dennis

      You should be ashamed of yourself! I'm glad I didn't have parents like you.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • HBT

      She's 15! She's doing what 15 year olds do....they push the boundaries and test the limits of their parents patience. She's at a point developmentally where she is trying to be an adult and is still emotionally a child. Her brain has several more years of developing and her frontal lobes are the last ones to mature. That's the area of the brain that sees long-term consequences and tells us not to do something – the brakes of the brain so to speak.

      HE is the adult. HE is the parent. It is HIS job to be in control and be a father. If she is that out of control she didn't get there all by herself – she learned it somewhere. Gee, where do you think that might have been? I'm not saying she was an angel that night, but it is HIS job to be the responsible one. It is HIS job to handle the situation like a man and not a bully.

      She talked back to her father therefore she should live in a homeless shelter?? I pity your children Lisa.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • Cana

      Sounds like you have some seriously unresolved issues with your kid, Lisa. It also sounds like you were a lousy parent who is looking for justification for her behavior through what this pastor did. You might want to take a good long look into a mirror – your therapist's mirror.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
    • Lisa

      Blame the victim. There are two sides for every story. I truly doubt this Pastor beats his girls every day. This was a family fight, and that's all.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    • DebS

      Right and her sister who witnessed it is lying too, right?

      He is the adult. Even if she was pushing his buttons, HE'S not only and ADULT but also an alleged Christian. He SHOULD be the bigger person and teach his daughter that violence is not the way to handle your anger. And we wonder why there is so much violence in our world. Even in "Christian" homes we learn that violence is acceptable, particularly if you a child being physically abused under the guise of punishment by your parent. And yes, I speak from personal experience.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
    • Cana

      "Blame the victim. There are two sides for every story. I truly doubt this Pastor beats his girls every day. This was a family fight, and that's all."

      Do you hear yourself??? Even you called her "the victim". He doesn't "beat" his children every day so it's okay? A family physically fighting is okay?

      Please tell me that you are no longer breeding.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
  9. mike

    Hey South and guess who held the paddle. First clue – it starts with T!!!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So, honey, you get your rocks off being hit with a paddle?

      Not surprising. I'll bet it's the only way you can get your little dick to stand up.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • mike

      Oh now we are into the Chelsey Handler kinda funny, good stuff

      June 8, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
  10. Gisela

    The worst enemies of the path that Christ teaches in the Gospels are the hypocrites who claim to be Christians.

    June 8, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Kay

      You got that right!!

      June 8, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  11. mickey1313

    The church, as a whole, is weakened every time the true personalities of its leaders is displayed. That are not men of god, they are just men. Why would anyone be foolish enough to follow anyone like this.

    June 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      More importantly, why would anyone follow a mythical man in the sky whose only representatives are charlatans like this?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      When you have morons like mike and his sock puppets professing belief in such an ent ity, why would you put any stock in such a nonsensical idea?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • mickey1313

      Make no mistake I'm not religious. Even if there is a god (who knows), i would never worship a being that allows good people to suffer. Religion causes far more problems then it solves

      June 8, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
  12. digitalclips

    Next he will claim this was a test by god and now he is even more special. Throw the bum in jail!

    June 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  13. kahunaj

    So, how would all of you knowledgeable people discipline your child in this instance? If she says tough, I'm going to the party and I don't care if it's 1 am. You can't restrain her, because that is a crime as well. you can't grab her arm and say go upstairs young lady, that is a crime. Grounding her in theory is great, but how do you stop her from walking out at that moment at 1am? You realize that there is a curfew in Atlanta right? http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/teen-curfews-protect-teens-975157.html

    This could potentially cost the parents $1000 for a repeat offender, but they can't apparently stop their children from leaving the house. Not supporting what this guy did, but clearly it is a catch 22. You get fined for not stopping your kid from violating the curfew, or you get arrested for stopping your kid from violating the curfew too "forcefully".

    June 8, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • JWT

      part of the oint of courts – to sort out where laws are nflicting as is obviously the case here.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Bill

      If they don't wanna listen to your authority then call a higher one... The cops

      They won't do it again

      June 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Anita Brooks

      Let the rebellious ungrateful girl GO and change the Locks....see how wonderful those in the streets and the other party goers will be to her when she needs a place to stay, food to eat, etc. etc. etc. and that sister too...Get to Stepping!

      June 8, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • Kay

      How about raising your kids to behave better in the first place??? Worked with mine.

      Too many parents have too many pointless rules, rather than focusing on the few really important rules that kids *should* be taught. And parents don't enforce their rules consistently. They'll "ground" their kid for a month...then let them go over to a friend's house two days later. It's too inconvenient for most parents to actually enforce all their "rules"...and then they wonder why their kids ignore them.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Worked with mine", said with preening and pride.

      How nice for you. Do you somehow imagine that you're superior as a parent, or acknowledge that you were just plain lucky?

      Because lots of parents do precisely the same thing and get vastly different results.

      June 8, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
  14. Leigh2

    Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Sez you, dweeb. Unless you're a professional in the field of law enforcement and forensics, with a degree to prove you have any knowledge in the field whatsoever, ya stupid git, you're nothing more than another dolt, braying its ignorance in public. If you have credentials, honey, post them. Otherwise, stick it up your ignorant fundament and rotate.

    88888888

    Aw, hit a nerve did I? Don't go away mad. Just go away. Thanks.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Can't refute? Thanks for playing, moron.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Probably can *refudiate* though.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No doubt. It's so stupid it probably thinks that's a word, too. Really, these retards make me laugh.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • mike

      Again hysterical? "Can't refute?" How about can't answer a direct question, this guy is funny, sad but funny

      June 8, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      What question might that be, mikey?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Aww, don't be too hard on mikey. He's handicapped, you know.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
  15. carm

    Creflo "send me your" Dollar(s) true personality has finally come to light. I always thought he was a sheep in wolves clothing; now it's out there.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      U mean a wolf in sheep's clothing?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
  16. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    All of the Abrahamic religions sure bring out the violence in people (Judaism, Xianity, Islam....dunno about Mormons....maybe they haven't been around long enough yet?) ..... especially when their kids who are supposed to stay brainwashed wanna start going out and partying!

    June 8, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • mickey1313

      The mormons were against blacks and women being equal until well into the 20th century. And high level mormons pledge an oath AGAINST the US government, for its treatment of smith. People like romney have taken that oath.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      But still these are not necessarily violent acts. Are you saying that the Mormons committed violent acts against blacks, women, and gov't?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • mickey1313

      @ g, ra pe is a violent act against women. The support of anti civil rights groups is a violent act against blacks. And leaders swearing an oath against our government, which allows them to practice their hate, is an act of violence against the government, so check check and um check

      June 8, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Sonja

      Zeus, read "Under the Banner of Heaven." It's a tough education on Mormonism, past and present.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
  17. mike

    wow this tom tom guy – cracks me up one of the crabbiest and most bitter person on this blog! Takes no stance except to spew angry crap, cracks me up, very amusing

    June 8, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How flattering that an inanimate illiterate idiot is put off by my posts. Better yet, it's too friggin' stupid to scroll on by.

      Do you have two brain cells to rub together, troll? If not, thy name is herbie.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • mike

      See what I mean hysterical!!! oh go away before someone drops a house on you.............

      June 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Poor little dear. Do you really think you're important? Significant?

      Got news for ya, honey. You're just a herbie.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • mike

      Yep just sad and bitter, but still very funny

      June 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why don't you explain the line of reasoning you're employing, mikey? Or are you as clueless as you appear?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
    • Son of the South

      Mike, do us a favor and see if you can get it out of Tom Tom what a "Herbie" is...........never heard of a Herbie...........!!?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • mike

      Just making an observation nothing more and I find your comments, hysterically funny. Not making any point – much like yourself.....only you are much funnier..

      June 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sweetie? Tag, you're it.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • mike

      Son of the south...hmm that could be tough, since he can't answer a question. He perfers to be funny
      I wouldn't worry abou the meaning, he just runs out of words and makes stuff up

      June 8, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Do tell. I find your inability to figure out how to use commas completely incomprehensible, unless of course you never graduated from high school.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • mike

      wow really? you sound like the chruch lady skit on SNL only with a red pencil, to grade grammar, again funny very funny

      June 8, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too bad you are unable to articulate exactly what it is you find "too funny".

      One must conclude you're pretty much a fvcktard who laughs at his toenails.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • mike

      oh wait, so you aren't being amusing or funny? You mean you really are that bitter and unhappy and this is what you do for fun? wow I change my observation to pity (but you are still funny)

      June 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Whatsamatter, mike? Did your inflatable date spring a leak? Or is that just the excuse you're using for your limp dick?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • mike

      See what I mean, it's a bad comedy routine, and has nothing to do with the topic still very funny though

      June 8, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And what, exactly, was the 'topic', mikey? Do explain how your posts related to it, mkay?

      I'm sad for you that you couldn't get a date for tonight. Do you usually spend your Fridays here, or do you generally resort to jacking off in the bathroom?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • mike

      Again funny I was wondering the same thing about you, only you seem to be on this blog a lot what no dates for you?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
  18. Kane

    So many people are so quick to rush to this man's side and condemn him because he is "a righteous man of god". Did none of you read this article? Tackling? Choking? Beating? For attending a party? We don't know what kind of party it was, whether she was out till 1 AM or back by 10 PM. Maybe she was grounded, maybe she was forbidden from going to the party, and that may be his right as a parent, but is it really necessary to beat a 15 year old? Yell all you want, but the moment you lose your cool and physically assault your child like that, what kind of message are you sending to them?

    June 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • Jubril

      Judges in the south don't have a problem sending a 15 year old african american child to an adult prison, its best for a father to instill discipline in his child, or the prison inmates will help me him to

      June 8, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
  19. Leigh2

    Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    You have a head but no brain?
    *********
    Hey, troll, doesn't it follow that if she were beaten, she'd have bruises and not just a scratch? I'm not saying she wasn't assaulted, but according to her, she was beaten with a shoe. That would certainly leave bruises if she were hit with force.

    June 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sez you, dweeb. Unless you're a professional in the field of law enforcement and forensics, with a degree to prove you have any knowledge in the field whatsoever, ya stupid git, you're nothing more than another dolt, braying its ignorance in public. If you have credentials, honey, post them. Otherwise, stick it up your ignorant fundament and rotate.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • mike

      ok tommy tom tom aka blow hard........what are your credentials?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Don't need any, honey. Your own posts discredit you. Why bother to post one-upmanship when you're competing with cat turds?

      June 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • mike

      OHHHH we have a self proclaimed "above it all" makes it even more hysterical, now it's getting old and I am bored but yes you are very funny

      June 8, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You have an odd definition of "bored". What you REALLY mean is that you don't have a clue as to how to respond, so you're going to pretend you're uninterested.

      Disingenuous at best; dishonest more likely. Stupid? Definitely.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • mike

      see what I mean too funny

      June 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, everybody sees what *you* mean, dear.

      See if you can guess what that is.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • mike

      Seriously this needs to be an SNL skit – you are truly funny!!! But you seriously can't be that sad and bitter can you?

      June 8, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  20. BeenThereDoneThat

    Anyone who has/is raising teenagers can sympathize with this situation. In many respects, parents have been hamstrung by the same system that is supposed to protect children from abuse! If you discipline, your child calls the police and you're off to jail; possibly end up in family court where you may end up spending thousands of dollars in counseling. Don't discipline and if your child ends up in criminal court, you're charged with negligence of a dependent child! Those of us who grew up in the 50's and 60's survived shoes, switches, belts and lived to tell about it! Cut this father some slack!

    June 8, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Juan derful

      Just because you survived something does not make it right to do.

      June 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Bill

      the country is going down the crapper and those of you who were born in the 50s and 60s are the ones in control of this country, so maybe it wasn't such a good idea to knock the sense out of you guys when you were kids

      June 8, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • Mary

      Discipline does not have to equal physical force. People in prison for violent crimes are more likely to have been harshly physically disciplined. The characteristics most highly correlated with having been reared with a lack of physical punishment (not a lack of discipline, those are not the same thing) are higher socioeconomic levels. People with the least amount of education and lowest socioeconomic status are the most likely to use frequent and/or harsh physical discipline. Fundamentalist religious upbringing and certain ethnic backgrounds are also correlated to harsher physical punishments. Saying that specific individuals survive harsher physical punishments such as beatings with belts does not prove that this leads to better outcomes for a population as a whole. Research on physical punishment has shown a positive effect only with children within a certain age range (I believe it is around 3-6) and only in the short term. In the long term children who are disciplined with non-physical methods have better long-term outcomes. It is unfortunate that usually when the question of physical punishment comes up some people will create a false dichotomy that either you use physical punishment or you set no limits for your child at all. There are countries where physical punishment is technically illegal that have a far lower rate of violence and other social ills than the United States, where harsh physical punishment is still fairly common, particularly among religious fundamentalists and parents with lower socioeconomic levels and less education.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Son of the South

      Yer right.....I also survived belt whuppins from my Dad (who I love unconditionaly) as well as fistfights, bullies, dodgeball, school paddlings, swimming in the Mississippi River, Boy Scouts, hunting with guns, playing with sling shots, building campfires un-assisted, going to Church three times a week(twice on Sunday) and lots of other things that Liberal idiots tend to think will scar a child's soul forever............God bless the USA and all the good ol' folks that still have common sense.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, SOTS. Look how YOU turned out.

      'nuff said.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Anita Brooks

      Thank you, finally someone with some sense. What's a parent to do today. Give them a comfortable house to live in, a car, nice clothes, money in their pockets and we are supposed to just let them speak to us any kind of way...I think not!!! Cut EVERYTHING OFF and I bet she will see the light.

      June 8, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
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