Church report: Children safer from abuse; more work to do
June 13th, 2012
05:03 PM ET

Church report: Children safer from abuse; more work to do

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog co-editor

(CNN) - Children in the Catholic Church are safer 10 years after the church initiated reforms in the wake of the priest abuse scandal, but there is still work to be done, according to a report delivered to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Meeting in Atlanta, the bishops heard from Al Notzon III, the chairman of the National Review Board, on the progress made 10 years after they tasked the lay group with "advising the bishops on the handling of sexual abuse of minors by clergy."

Notzon delivered the report to the clergy leaders in a morning session. "There has been striking improvement in the Church’s response to and treatment of victims," the report said. "Children are safer now because of the creation of safe environments and action has been taken to permanently remove offenders from ministry.”

But Notzon was quick to point out, "much work still needs to be done."

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He said the board worried about complacency with the church, "thinking that 10 years of action is enough and that programs and vigilance can be taken for granted or, worse, watered down."

At their meeting in Dallas in 2002, the bishops implemented the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People. It outlines policies and procedures for the church to address allegations of sexual abuse of minors by Catholic clergy and deals with reconciliation, accountability and prevention.

Wednesday's progress report marked a decade since the charter's implementation.

“In the past 10 years, over 15,000 victims have come forward to tell their secret they had carried for years, and each year, more have come forward," Notzon said. "It is impossible to know the final number of victims."

Notzon pointed to findings of the "Scope and Nature" study by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. It was commissioned by the bishops' group after determining the need for an outside group not only to review the scope of the Catholic sexual abuse crisis in the United States but to determine the cause.

Notzon reminded the bishops that the study found "the incidences of abuse began to rise in the '60s, peaked in the '70s and declined sharply in the '80s.”

He said cases that have been reported recently have followed that pattern.

"The peak of the curve is not moving forward or broadening as time moves forward," he said.

He said that over the course of 10 years, the church has learned painful lessons on the best way to handle abuse cases. "We treat those making allegations of sexual abuse with compassionate care. It is not only the best thing to do but the right thing to do and an integral part of the church's spiritual mission."

Notzon also noted that in that area, the church has moved from a legal stance to a pastoral stance.

Dioceses are offering mental health services, healing Masses and retreats for victims, he said.

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“Confidential settlements have been abolished except when requested by the victim,” Notzon said. The new charter abolished quiet private settlements, opting instead for a policy of openness and transparency.

Under the rules of the charter, churches are required to report allegations of sexual abuse of a minor to civil authorities and to inform the victims of their right to report the allegation to civil authorities.

The board also said the church would continue its zero-tolerance policy for abuse and quickly remove priests who were proven to have abused a child. "There is no room in the priesthood or religious life for those who would harm the young," Notzon said.

"Dioceses are still receiving reports of sexual abuse of minors. Most are quickly reported to civil authorities as required by law," he said, but he warned the leaders that they must respond quickly to reports and share information with their congregations for the sake of transparency. "If there's anything that needs to be disclosed to their diocese, it needs to be disclosed now. One can no longer claim, 'I didn't know.' "

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the archbishop of New York and president of the bishops' conference, praised the report at the conclusion of Notzon's remarks: "It was like an an examination of conscience."

Critics of the church quickly responded to the report.

"In the report on the charter today, time and time again, promises were depicted as facts. Again and again, pledges that have been repeatedly violated were described as realities that are undeniable," said Barbara Dorris of St. Louis, outreach director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests. "Sadly, we rarely see a real plan that’s effectively enforced."

Dorris' statement also challenged the notion that the number of abuse cases had dropped off. That was premature speculation, she said. "It always has and likely always will take decades before victims can speak up."

Notzon seemed to agree with that premise as well when he told the bishops that while strides have been made, "The work is not finished and may never be."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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soundoff (101 Responses)
  1. religion; a way to control the weak minded

    "R-apists and mur-derers are to be sent back to God. He is to deal with them, not man."

    This might be the DUMBEST COMMENT EVER ON THIS BOARD. way to go heavensent, I didnt think you could be any more r3tard3d, but you proved me wrong.

    June 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • sam stone

      that comment is from HS. he/she/it is a troll

      June 14, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  2. religion; a way to control the weak minded

    "Children in the Catholic Church are safer 10 years after the church initiated reforms in the wake of the priest abuse scandal, but there is still work to be done, according to a report delivered to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."

    lol consider the source

    June 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
  3. Jack

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    June 14, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • Huebert

      Back to your bridge troll.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • heavensent

      Thank god for prolapsed .net, spreading spreading truth of the lord.

      June 14, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • HeavenSent

      God talked to me this morning. Did he talk to you? Do you hear his voice? If not then you are not saved.


      June 14, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • heavensent

      He spoke to me at mudfalls .net

      June 14, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  4. hippypoet

    just sickining! after initiated reforms they are safer – but not safe! its nothing to do with it being a church rather it has everything to do with sick fu.cking people and stupid people allowing the sick to persist....any thoughts.

    June 14, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • JellyBean@hippypoet

      Couldn't agree with you more. Throw in power and money as well.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:55 am |


    June 14, 2012 at 6:17 am |
    • HeavenSent

      While our ancestors were writing Jesus' truth about life and the hereafter, you believe that your ancestors were still swinging by their tails in trees and eating bananas.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:05 am |
    • Reality

      Why did today's pope, prelates, preachers and rabbis, so focused on society's se-xual sins, lose sight of clerical se-xual sins?


      Obviously ordination in any religion is not assurance of good behavior !!!!!

      Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.

      Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of pedophilia are married.

      Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have se-x with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy".

      Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods.

      Neither is being an atheist or pagan since pedophilia is present in all walks of life.

      If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the law dictates to include jail terms for pedophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Clinton, Cardinal Law) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII).

      June 14, 2012 at 7:31 am |
    • HeavenSent

      They are all guilty of being blinded by the sin of lust of the flesh seeking after the ways of the world ... instead of.

      But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

      Matthew 6:33


      June 14, 2012 at 7:38 am |
    • sam stone

      Pull your head out of iron age comic books. Amen

      June 14, 2012 at 7:44 am |


      June 14, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam and sauce, still whining and complaining I see.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Sauce, I would never sink so low in this world that would force me to join the whining ranks of the non-believers who follow satan's lies. You wouldn't know a true Christian if we introduced ourselves in person. That's what you get for being a fool that loves and follows the lies of satan.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • sam stone

      HS still experiencing that verbal diarrhea

      June 14, 2012 at 9:03 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, I'm glad you admit what category you are in when Christians post to you.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • Reality

      Matt 6: 33 as per many contemporary NT scholars was uttered by the historic Jesus. See http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb082.html.

      The following however should be considered when evaluating anything the historic Jesus said or did.

      JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")

      Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.

      Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

      Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

      Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

      So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man would do or say?

      June 14, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      "While our ancestors were writing Jesus' truth about life and the hereafter,"

      What you really mean is "while our ancestors were writing stories to control people...."

      There is very little truth in that book, if any.

      June 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  6. Flamespeak

    The catholic church is still trying to figure out what to do with known practicioners of child molestation?

    I guess turning their findings into the police and letting them actually face real punishment for their heinous crimes is out of the question, eh?

    June 14, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • HeavenSent

      R-apists and mur-derers are to be sent back to God. He is to deal with them, not man.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:15 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      No HS, given that your god can't be used in any court of law it is only right that they face the only punishment we can be guaranteed of...jail time. These pigs need removed from society, not left within it so they can abuse more children.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • HeavenSent

      TruthPrevails :-), Jesus said that you need at least 2 witnesses, 3 is better to the event. Not multiple events with multiple witnesses for each offense. That's what you non-believers get for tampering with the law. Own it.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • HeavenSent

      TruthPrevails :-), stop buying into your lies that true Christians aren't horrified over these events. We want them off the streets permanently ... and that doesn't include the wimpy laws that non-believers passed with the garbage of life in prison.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:42 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      The fact that numerous people have come forth and stated the same thing over and over again means something. Your jesus has nothing to do with present day issues, these issues are for the courts to deal with. Us, non-believers, believe that regardless of who (believer or non-believer) commits the crime they deserve to be punished. The laws of the land are made to work for everyone regardless of belief or disbelief because quite simply heaven and hell have never been evidenced to exist and we don't wish to risk it and let these monsters walk free. Better they be punished now then to risk them harming another innocent person. The fact that you support these monsters walking free says little for your regard to children and even less of your morals.

      June 14, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Who are you posting to now truth prevails not?

      June 14, 2012 at 9:09 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      "and that doesn't include the wimpy laws that non-believers passed with the garbage of life in prison."

      LOL wimpy laws? last time i checked, if these ra...pists and mu..rders REPENT, they join you in your BS heaven. Have fun with that, r3tard

      June 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I'll bet HS loved watching Mel Gibson being drawn and quartered in "Braveheart."

      She probably has something like that in mind.

      June 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
  7. Tim Lennon

    Look, nothing's changed. Nothing's improved. The bishops continue to cover for abusers.The bishops have not opened up the books on present and past coverups.

    The bishops have refused to acknowledge their complcity in the coverup of the abuse of children. Yes, yes, some in the church hierarchy wlll say in a very general way, "the church made mistakes" yet they fail to acknowledge specifics of the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of children they cruelly harmed and could have prevented.

    Even though there are hundreds of cases of bishops complcit in hiding and coverup of pedophiles not one bishop has criticized another bishop. Even though there are a couple dozen known abusers of children who were bishops (see http://www.bishopaccountability.org) not one of them has been criticized by another bishop.

    The church hierachy has caused great harm by protecting their abusing clergy causing thousands of more children to be harmed.

    Nothing's changed but ther desire to do more PR to protect their stink of corruption.

    June 14, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Lee Iacocca said about Ford Motor Company when he took over the helm ... the head doesn't know what the tail does.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:10 am |


    June 14, 2012 at 2:20 am |
  9. howart Dao

    "The work is not finished and may never be." : There are still many still in the churcd and they will never be outed 😉

    June 13, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  10. Jack

    Hello everyone. Say if you have some time please visit my web site... thestarofkaduri.com

    June 13, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
  11. david

    meaningless, that alone is the biggest dispute know to any kind, imago<following god? it was told was it i or he AND to whom is the. my thought was to blame whom for it. Then what? what short is the misunderstood. THe part when i say yes. my biggest dispute? but to whom does it become a demand? the truth is it you that effects everything, your command turns the century into a demand set by me. But the truth is i said yes, so to whom has? no worrys you destroy my means by one look, thought, idea or means,, prayer. by him he stands in my heart as a HYME not has no means of saying anything, by that its well too. but by any means its yours truely. his means are meaningless. one i would know could respond to anything but the heart is the ways that fit, then whom is i, it you and all of the. the turns is in the worst and best, to lead to umm, then. so there turns come and go if turn wrong follow my means this will lead to an and all answers who then, the one with all the answers. this was the means and for me the answer. aka nope is all of none of anything that has meaning or dispute or even answers, then what turns into and dispute lives in all of any kind of dispute. has only i had once said nothing, then why, for me it because i am just his and to whom i am is his and then, to hyme, gone into rythme.

    June 13, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Take an English class.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  12. Dave

    A few questions should help shed light on the relationship between religion and rational thought.

    The completely absurd theory that all 7,000,000,000 human beings are simultaneously being supervised 24 hours a day, every day of their lives by an immortal, invisible being for the purposes of reward or punishment in the “afterlife” comes from the field of:

    (a) Children’s fairytales;

    (b) Medieval mythology;

    (c) New age pseudo science; or

    (d) Christianity

    You are about 70% likely to believe the entire Universe began less than 10,000 years ago with only one man, one woman and a talking snake if you are a:

    (a) historian;

    (b) geologist;

    (c) NASA astronomer; or

    (d) Christian

    I honestly believe that, when I think silent thoughts like, “please god, help me pass my exam tomorrow,” some invisible being is reading my mind and will intervene and alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to help me. I am

    (a) a delusional schizophrenic;

    (b) a naïve child, too young to know that that is silly

    (c) an ignorant farmer from Sudan who never had the benefit of even a fifth grade education; or

    (d) your average Christian

    I have convinced myself that gay $ex is a choice and not genetic, but then have no explanation as to why only gay people have ho.mo$exual urges. I am

    (a) A gifted psychologist

    (b) A well respected geneticist

    (c) A highly educated sociologist

    (d) A Christian with the remarkable ability to ignore inconvenient facts.

    Millions and millions of Catholics believe that bread and wine turns into the actual flesh and blood of a dead Jew from 2,000 years ago because:

    (a) there are obvious visible changes in the condiments after the Catholic priest does his hocus pocus;

    (b) tests have confirmed a divine presence in the bread and wine;

    (c) now and then their god shows up and confirms this story; or

    (d) their religious convictions tell them to blindly accept this completely fvcking absurd nonsense.

    I believe that an all powerful being, capable of creating the entire cosmos watches me have $ex to make sure I don't do anything "naughty". I am

    (a) A victim of child molestation

    (b) A r.ape victim trying to recover

    (c) A mental patient with paranoid delusions

    (d) A Christian

    The only discipline known to often cause people to kill others they have never met and/or to commit suicide in its furtherance is:

    (a) Architecture;

    (b) Philosophy;

    (c) Archeology; or

    (d) Religion

    What is it that most differentiates science and all other intellectual disciplines from religion:

    (a) Religion tells people not only what they should believe, but what they are morally obliged to believe on pain of divine retribution, whereas science, economics, medicine etc. has no “sacred cows” in terms of doctrine and go where the evidence leads them;

    (b) Religion can make a statement, such as “there is a composite god comprised of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit”, and be totally immune from experimentation and challenge, whereas science can only make factual assertions when supported by considerable evidence;

    (c) Science and the scientific method is universal and consistent all over the World whereas religion is regional and a person’s religious conviction, no matter how deeply held, is clearly nothing more than an accident of birth; or

    (d) All of the above.

    If I am found wandering the streets flagellating myself, wading into a filth river, mutilating my child’s genitals or kneeling down in a church believing that a being is somehow reading my inner thoughts and prayers, I am likely driven by:

    (a) a deep psychiatric issue;

    (b) an irrational fear or phobia;

    (c) a severe mental degeneration caused by years of drug abuse; or

    (d) my religious belief.

    Who am I? I don’t pay any taxes. I never have. Any money my organization earns is tax free and my own salary is also tax free, at the federal, state and local level. Despite contributing nothing to society, but still enjoying all its benefits, I feel I have the right to tell others what to do. I am

    (a) A sleazy Wall Street banker

    (b) A mafia boss

    (c) A drug pusher; or

    (d) A Catholic Priest, Protestant Minister or Jewish Rabbi.

    What do the following authors all have in common – Jean Paul Sartre, Voltaire, Denis Diderot, Victor Hugo, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Immanuel Kant, David Hume, René Descartes, Francis Bacon, John Milton, John Locke, and Blaise Pascal:

    (a) They are among the most gifted writers the World has known;

    (b) They concentrated on opposing dogma and opening the human mind and spirit to the wonders of free thought and intellectual freedom;

    (c) They were intimidated by the Catholic Church and put on the Church’s list of prohibited authors; or

    (d) All of the above.

    The AIDS epidemic will kill tens of millions in poor African and South American countries before we defeat it. Condoms are an effective way to curtail its spread. As the Pope still has significant influence over the less educated masses in these parts of the World, he has exercised this power by:

    (a) Using some of the Vatican’s incomprehensible wealth to educate these vulnerable people on health family planning and condom use;

    (b) Supporting government programs that distribute condoms to high risk groups;

    (c) Using its myriad of churches in these regions to distribute condoms; or

    (d) Scaring people into NOT using condoms, based upon his disdainful and aloof view that it is better that a person die than go against the Vatican’s position on contraceptive use.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Dave, I for one, am tired of reading all the cookie cutter nonsense you non-believers post without knowing what you do. As for Jesus, he told us to send r-a-pists and mu-r-derers back to him. The laws used to be enforced, but, non-believers such as yourself, changed said laws, not we have r-a-pists and mu-rd-erers sitting in prison for life ... AT EVERYONE'S EXPENSE. Jesus told us to send them back to him for a reason. When everyone sees what the price is to be paid (their own life), ALL ra-pes and mur-ders will cease.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:25 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: Jesus mean nothing to our secular laws.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:45 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, I'm very much aware that non-believers know nothing, stand for nothing, lust in the flesh (meaning you pay attention to what happens in the world instead of paying attention to Jesus' spiritual truth about life and the hereafter) and never think about all the ramifications thoroughly on any subject you happen to jump on for the moment. You have a hit and run mentality which ends up at crash and burn outcomes.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:00 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: And we are aware that believers like you are arrogant dweebs who feel that they speak for god.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:46 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, you prove yourself to be the fool. Christians don't speak for God, we follow His truth and spread His message of truth. Hence, why we post His scriptures ... that you are clueless to figuring out what He teaches because you're blinded by the sin of wrath for one of the sins that blinds you ... aka fighting with yourself.

      June 14, 2012 at 9:25 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: Speaking for god is exactly what you are doing. Call it "sharing Jesus's truth" or some such drivel if it makes you feel better, troll.

      June 14, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • kay4justice

      Dave, please know that I laughed so hard when I took your test that the people next door could hear me! You made my day! It is good to know there are still people out there with a sense of humor. Carry on and thanks.

      June 25, 2012 at 4:11 am |
    • rodygirl70

      Thanks Dave! Lovely stuff.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:38 am |
  13. junior


    June 13, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
  14. Keith

    Jerry Sandusky pinned down a foster child and performed oral s^x on him, threatened to keep him from seeing his family if he reported what happened and then later told him he loved him, the accuser testified Wednesday.
    This is why qu.eers should not be allowed to be married, adopt children, or have foster children. I hope these victims of this h0m0s^xual sue the living crap out of Penn State and bankrupt that sick twisted university.

    June 13, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Jezebel

      Still fretting about Obama's citizenship, KEEF?

      June 13, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Yawn – you may wish to read some books Keith. They hide all kinds of stuff in them, like information.

      June 13, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • sam stone

      Awww.....Keith, the crucifix jammed up your rectum is cutting off blood flow to your brain

      June 13, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • Bet


      You are really entertaining, in a sad sort of way.

      June 13, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • sam stone

      Bet: Keef is sort of like a geek at a circus, bitiing the heads off chickens

      June 13, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Really-O?

      I could be wrong, but I believe Keith wins both the award for ignorance and the award for putrescence. Way to go Keith!

      June 13, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Sandusky sounds like a soc-i-opath which has nothing to do with s-3xual ori-entation. If true of what he's accused of, he's a predator that preys on others ... all others.

      June 14, 2012 at 6:34 am |
  15. just sayin

    Good news in God's house....children are a little safer. shewwww now they can focus on the Nuns.

    June 13, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
  16. snapjudy

    Well, there are several bishops in Ohio, WV, and Pennsylvania, who are still not removing credibly accused predators from their parishes.. The victims are treated horribly, and they are ignored. And these church officials know exactly who they are.
    I don't know how they can sit in the conference and pretend to be doing what they have promised.
    There is going to have to be many more grand jury investigations to get this abuse and cover up stopped.... as long as the bishops can still get away with it, nothing changes.

    Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, snapjudy@gmail.com

    June 13, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • Mr Chihuahua

      Oh snap! lol!

      June 13, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
  17. david

    Why then is now an opion, when then was an persona or dispute, no religion, just sins. For whom is now an tech, for them. Dispute dont assume! Its frank, nothing more. Till the takes, resume of I, post! Or post up? Its asumed not reasoned, just reson. Frank

    June 13, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
  18. david

    Who saids, not I, then what was told. Everything makes people smile, now that is an dispute, but not? Then what? Now? Smile what should be the harm, fear! Then why bother? Then what, not I? Now? Who said! Smile, no, I, then have?

    June 13, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
  19. Interrogate them all then hang the sick sons of b's

    Nuremberg Redux

    June 13, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
    • Keith

      I agree. The h0m0 qu.eer Jerry Sanduskky types that harm children should hang.

      June 13, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • sam stone

      Keith: Closet a bit confining for ya? Come on out.

      June 13, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Take your own advice sam, come out from hiding behind science and atheists as your new closets.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:42 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: Pull more scripture out of your rectum to justify your bigotry

      June 14, 2012 at 7:48 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, you are the one that hates, is a bigot and is doing the bullying. Own your stupidity for never comprehending Jesus' truth in life as you continue to not do your own research due to being lazy, but, take others lopsided view of scriptures because they too have issues they need to deal with and never resolved because they too, are lazy. So, the laziness continues ... knowing not Jesus' truth but believing satan's lies.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:57 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: Go so-dom-ize your yourself

      June 14, 2012 at 8:33 am |
    • HeavenSent

      sam, Jesus wrote about the non-believers in the following scriptures:

      Fool (66)
      Foolish (52)
      Foolishly (12)
      Foolishness (20)
      Fools (42)
      Fool's (7)

      I'll post one of my favorites just for you sam.

      The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, [there is] none that doeth good.

      Psalms 14:1


      June 14, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • sam stone

      HS: Did Jesus say that when he was "Lewinski-ing" his disciples?

      June 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
  20. Reality

    The "vomit-inducing" ped-ophilia and coverup will simply hasten the decline of all religions as they finally go extinct from their own absurdity.. It is time to replace all religions with a few rules like "Do No Harm" and convert all houses of "worthless worship" to recreation facilities and parks.

    June 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Keith

      You mean like Rick Warren's Saddleback Church?

      June 13, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The only decline to our nation is the non-believers who do their damage without ever thinking any issue through from start to finish.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    • sam stone

      There are several factors involved in the decline of our nation. Among them is partisan politics and the de-secularization of our laws.

      June 14, 2012 at 7:50 am |
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