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Bias against Mormon presidential candidate unchanged since 1967, poll finds
Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, is trying to become the first Mormon president.
June 21st, 2012
01:19 PM ET

Bias against Mormon presidential candidate unchanged since 1967, poll finds

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Bias against a Mormon presidential candidate hasn’t budged in 45 years, with 18% of Americans saying they would not vote for a well-qualified candidate who happened to be Mormon, according to a Gallup Poll released Thursday.

The survey points up potential challenges for presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who is vying to be the first Mormon in the White House.

Gallup first asked Americans about support for a Mormon presidential candidate in 1967 when Romney’s father, George Romney, was running for president. That year, 17% of Americans said they would not vote for a well-qualified Mormon for president.

George Romney dropped out of the race after making a gaffe about the Vietnam War, and Richard Nixon won the GOP nomination in 1968.

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“The stability of resistance to a Mormon presidential candidate over the past 45 years is an anomaly,” Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport wrote in a survey report, noting that “resistance to a candidate who is black, a woman, or Jewish has declined substantially over the same period of time.”

The survey also found that four in 10 Americans do not know that Romney is Mormon. Gallup found that those who know Romney is a Mormon are also the most likely to back the idea of a Mormon for president.

But the national learning curve on Romney's religion "suggests the possibility that as Romney's faith becomes better known this summer and fall, it could become more of a negative factor," Newport wrote in his report.

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"Those who resist the idea of a Mormon president will in theory become more likely to realize that Romney is a Mormon as the campaign unfolds," Newport wrote.

Bias against a Mormon candidate is significantly higher among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, Gallup found.

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Twenty-four percent of Democrats and 18% of independents said they would not vote for a well-qualified Mormon who was nominated by their party, while 10% of Republicans expressed such opposition.

Resistance to a Mormon candidate was much higher among Americans with lower levels of education, with 23% of those without a high school diploma saying they would not support a well-qualified Mormon. Six percent of those with postgraduate education shared that view.

In his report, Newport said that it’s “unclear how the current level of resistance to the idea of voting for a Mormon presidential candidate will affect the election.”

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“History shows that these types of attitudes in and of themselves are not an impediment to victory,” Newport wrote, citing a 1960 poll that found 21% of Americans would not vote for a well-qualified Catholic candidate for the presidency.

Later that same year, John F. Kennedy won the White House.

The Romney campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In an interview earlier this year, Southern Baptist leader Richard Land predicted that Romney’s Mormonism would become a bigger political challenge for the candidate - not because of anti-Mormon bias among evangelicals but because of that bias among independents.

Most evangelicals already “know what Mormonism believes and most of them are prepared to vote for Mitt Romney in a general election against Barack Obama in spite of his Mormonism,” said Land, public policy chief for the country’s largest evangelical denomination.

“The 40% of electorate that’s independent, most of them have no idea what Mormons believe,” Land said. “But they will all know what Mormons believe by the general election.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 2012 Election • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (2,017 Responses)
  1. HOW IRONIC

    I think it is hilarious that if I were to attack minorities the same way so many of you bigots attack me, my comments would probably be censored for hate speech. I love how "tolerant" we have become. Thanks to all your bigots for showing me great examples of civility and well-informed opinions. I hope all of you idiots on the left feel great about being so "progressive." I can at least tolerate the idiots on the far-right being haters considering since they do not prance around pretending to be progressive.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • zacharye

      First of, mormons are mormons by choice, so it's ok to trash on how they think magic underwear protects them from satan. Second, minorities cant exactly choose to be minorities. We attack conservatives because their morals are bass ackwards and most of what they say is either based on misinformation or just outright blind rage and hatred. Yes i feel great about being progressive and creating all of the advanced technology leading americas. economy while conservatives are festering in swamps shooting guns at piles of garbage

      June 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • sam

      I'm not sure how you've determined that the worst of the comments are coming from the left, exactly. You're using bias to complain about bias. There are jerks on all sides.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Jonathan

      You probably would be quite surprised how many of your co-workers developing advanced technology are conservative. I work in the technology industry and am happily conservative.

      And, how many "liberals" ended up wandering the streets after Hurrcane Katrina, shooting at piles of garbage? Want to re-think your stereotype?

      June 21, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • Denver

      You apparently have NO IDEA how many conservatives like myself will not vote for Romney. Obama? Of course not, we'll stay home and let America get what it deserves.

      June 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  2. ex AF in Indiana

    First off , the poll says a 'well qualified ' Mormon. Mitt isn't. From one of those Chocolate covered things to his car elevator to I like firing people to people are corporations. He is clueless. Why this senior citizen who should be in a rest home is running I'll never know. He has no qualifications, he has no idea what the job entails, except sign whatever the GOP puts in front of him. Same for his opinions on anything from equal pay to granting illegals who grew up and went to school here a green card if they have no criminal record and go to college or the military or work here.

    I had a Mormon Commander and Vice Commander at a base. Worst leadership ever in the AF. All the Mormons came out of the woodwork and they were given base priveleges overseas illegally. They lie and think they can get away with it as long as they don't lie to another Mormon. Its not a religion, its a cult. Read up on it.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  3. J.Weitzell

    I have no official statistics to support my contention – just personal experience.
    I believe that anyone who knows Mormons and has regular contact with them is aware that Mormons will ALWAYS give preference to members of their own faith in hiring, pay raises, promotions, charitable contributions, etc. etc.
    They also firmly believe that a woman's place is in the home raising children, no where else.
    It tooky ears for America to set aside such beliefs for Roman Catholics and African Americans – but we did, and to our benefit I might add.
    Mormons will have to work these concerns out through their own performance, just as other groups have.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Jonathan

      So, you are saying that the only reason why we have civil rights for blacks and Catholics is because they somehow proved themselves worthy of non-discrimination? As if they deserved slavery and other forms of bigotry until they somehow changed their awful black and Catholic behaviors?

      June 21, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
  4. Colin

    "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." -Brigham Young Morman Prophet

    June 21, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • HOW IRONIC

      You spelled Mormon incorrectly. Why should I believe that your quote is accurate?

      June 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • fred

      Sorry, the ungodly generation of Cain was removed from the face of the earth. Next.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Snow

      googling is an art.. and a way to find truth.. But as much as you try, you can not cover it up.. how ironic, really!

      June 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  5. joe

    Thursday, June 21, 2012

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns 43%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and another five percent (5%) are undecided.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • v_mag

      You are referring to Rasmussen, the well-known right wing spin organization? The guys closely associated with Pox News? The guys whose questions are worded so as to generate a desired response? That Rasmussen poll?

      June 21, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  6. Michael

    His faith should not be a factor. The same thing happened when Kennedy was the first Catholic running for the White House. Mitt is not my candidate of choice but his faith is not part of my decision.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • msadr

      uh, Michael, anyone who actually has faith bases 100% of their decisions on it. So, yea, faith is the number 1 most important thing to consider when choosing a candidate.

      June 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  7. Colin

    The belief that an infitely old, all-knowing sky-god, powerful enough to create the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies, will cause people to survive their own phsical deaths and live happily ever after in a place called heaven, if they follow some laws laid down in Bronze Age Palestine = Judaism.

    Judaism + a belief that the same god impregnated a virgin with himself to give birth to himself, so he could sacrifice himself to himself to negate a rule he himself made = Christianity.

    Christianity + a belief that aliens from other planets mated with humans who will one day be have their own planets, that the Israelis colonized America and that magic underwear will protect you from evil = mormonism

    I guess, in the realm of silly supersti.tions, th Mormons take gold.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • fred

      Atheism is the belief by faith alone that in the beginning there was nothing, life came from nothing and will end in nothingness. In short atheism is an empty faith.

      Atheism + evolution is the belief that frogs, dogs and man all came from the same nothing and return to nothing. The lifelessness of all animals and man are the same as is the meaning and purpose of life by their own definition.

      Atheism offers no hope, an empty faith and life without meaning any greater than an animal. That pretty well summarizes existence without God based on all the evidence atheists have provided.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      Shut the fu.ck up about things you don't understand and don't care to understand fred.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaii Guest
      Ok, please enlighten me how atheists do not promote life as being organic and chemical reactions that cease upon death. There is nothing of the soul, nothing eternal for animals including man. Nothing!

      June 21, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • zacharye

      Fred
      So what youre saying is that you agree that athiests are right and that religions believe that fairy tails are the truth. Good! This is progress, now say that the earth is round and that the earth revolves around the sun and we will really be taking some big steps in your understanding of how the universe ACTUALLY works!

      June 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      The death part isn't the part I was talking about. The nothingness bullshi.t is a generalization, and is in no way a standard view among atheists. A standard view among atheists is a non-sensical term anyway, since atheism is not a worldview, not a belief system, and has no doctrine or tenants. You know nothing about atheists, nothing about cosmology, abiogenisis, and evolution.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • Snow

      Sure, there is nothing to being an organic life form after death. But what you are missing is that while you are alive, you have a choice to be happy, make people around you happy and live a good life.. or you can choose to sit in a darkened hall depressed about death and cling on to a goat herders handbook with false hope of "maybe" living after death..

      June 21, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaii Guest
      Enough atheists on this site have expressed the same faith. After the electrical chemical functions of the body cease there is no afterlife of any sort only non existence as it was before that life began. There is consensus among the faithful that humans are no different than any other life form at death and a frog, dog, man etc all enter the same non existence.
      I am speaking about fundamental atheism not agnostic atheists etc. or other denominations.
      Please enlighten me

      June 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      You're just tacking on religious terms like fundamental. Be fu.cking honest for once and realize that atheism is not a fu.cking belief system, it is not a religion, has no tenants or doctrines.

      June 21, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • fred

      Snow
      Since when is happiness a choice? The general disposition of humans is based on genetics, environment and socioeconomic conditions. You should refer to it as a happiness orientation. You may wish to refer to all the studies that conclude Christians are generally more happy than atheists and the difference is ability to focus outside of oneself. In the Old Testament we had the promised land of milk and honey while the chosen ones roamed in a hot dry desert. Today our hope is in Christ that has made a way for all to enter the promised land. Regardless if Christ is real or a delusion the simple hope of a better tomorrow, a day without pain and a place where love and joy abounds lifts the spirits. Not sure where you get the gloom…….

      June 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaii Guest
      Are you serious? Fundamental Atheists believe; there is no God, there is no life after death, there are no miracles, the universe came to existence spontaneously out of nothing, there is no intelligent design even though odds are against any other possibility, meaning of life is limited to a 4 dimensional universe, reality of God and the tooth fairy are identical, there is no soul, man has the same universal purpose as any other known animal, there was no Exodus, no global flood, no talking snake, Bible is based on some form of previous myth, God is a myth, God is not competent and Gods plan for man is wrong, no God if one existed would create an eternal hell, deny the existence of God yet accept atheism without proof, etc, etc.
      No different than magic underwear

      June 21, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @fred

      This is why I told you to shut the fu.ck up about sh.it that you know nothing about and don't care to know anything about. I thought that you would at least be able to get this much, but I guess that you're just to far gone to accept anything that would pop your comfortable little bubble of preconceptions.

      June 21, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaii Guest
      So, you hold all those beliefs?
      A simple yes would be honest. Then you can say we all believe the same basic doctrine but prefer not to call it that.

      June 21, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @fred

      You dishonest little sh.it. Did I say that I believed all those things? Did I even mention any of those things in my post? NO I did not. Don't try your preschool logic here you little fu.ckwit.

      June 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • fred

      Hawaii Guest
      That's ok I do not believe all the positions believers take either. So which ones do you disagre with?

      June 21, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @fred

      I will go point by point then.

      "Fundamental Atheists"
      This is a non-sensical term. Atheism is the non-belief in a god, end of story, end of definition. Other views can be consistent with atheism but atheism is not contingent upon them. Traditional Buddhists are atheists, but believe in supernatural stuff.

      "there is no God"
      This is a gnostic type of statement, and is merely an view that is in addition to atheism.

      "there is no life after death"
      No evidence that there is, so yes I think that theres nothing after death.

      "there are no miracles"
      Nothing that has been verified.

      "the universe came to existence spontaneously out of nothing"
      This is worded wrong. Properly, it should be "the universe in its current state . . .", and no I do not think it came from nothing, but I do think (according to the law of conservation) that matter and energy has always existed in some form or another.

      "there is no intelligent design even though odds are against any other possibility"
      We've gone through this and you know I do not accept the premise that there is intelligent design.

      "meaning of life is limited to a 4 dimensional universe"
      I think that meaning is determined by the individual.

      "reality of God and the tooth fairy are identical"
      This is a loaded statement due to the word reality. Evidence for existence is a better statement, and then I would say yes. If you want to go with your original statement, if you're talking about the god of the bible, then yes I'd say the reality of that and the tooth fairy are the same, and that is that neither are real.

      "there is no soul"
      No evidence of such, so disbelief is the stance I take. It wuold also depend on how you define a "soul".

      "man has the same universal purpose as any other known animal"
      Universal is a strange word to put in. I think you mean objective, and in that case, yes. But once again, I can determine my own purpose.

      "there was no Exodus"
      No extrabiblical record or archaeological evidence of about 600,000 people not including cattle leaving egypt, a pharaoh dying in the chase, and then those approximate 600k people wandering around for 40 years. So no I don't think there was an Exodus.

      "no global flood, no talking snake"
      Yes I think that those are myths. The so called "evidence" for a global flood had been thoroughly debunked through actual science, and a talking snake is just silly.

      "Bible is based on some form of previous myth"
      No I do not think this. I think that some aspects in the bible are highly similar to some of the other mythologies of the time, and some of it is just Jewish people writing down their view of the way the world worked and what they thought they knew.

      " God is a myth, God is not competent and Gods plan for man is wrong"
      Contradictory statements. I think that the christian god does not exist, and I think the characteristics are contradictory, and even if it were not, then yes the character, as protrayed, is not competent and the so-called plan is horribly flawed and stupid.

      "no God if one existed would create an eternal hell"
      I can't believe I need to clarify my stance on this to you, AGAIN. Eternal torture, and all-loving are mutually exclusive concepts. They cannot be reconciled logically.

      "deny the existence of God yet accept atheism without proof"
      Once again, atheism is NON-BELIEF! Atheism is not the acceptance of anything. I cannot fathom how you are unable to actually fu.cking grasp this point!.

      June 21, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
  8. Maxx

    I hope all Mormons aren't as patently dishonest as Mitt.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  9. betterdays

    Not voting for Romney because he's Mormon makes about as much sense as voting for Obama because he's God.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • msadr

      What? Romney actually IS a mormon.

      June 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
  10. Get yor facts from a trusted source

    We do not believe that Christ was an angel. We believe that he is the Only Begotten Son of God, our Father, and that He is our Savior and the Redeemer of the World.

    Our "magic underwear" is nothing more than a constant physical reminder of the covenants or promises we made to God and Jesus Christ to obey their commandments.

    Next time, ask a Mormon what he believes. Or go to Mormon.org to learn about what we believe.
    Do not get your "facts" about what we believe from some book, movie, or pastor that pot rays to "know" what a Mormon believes

    June 21, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Howard

      If America was ready to elect an African American, and TWENTY YEAR membe,r of Jeremiah Wright's anti-American, racist church ... surely, America is ready to elect a Mormon !!!

      June 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Colin

      And the gold tablets? And the planets? And the Israelites colonizing America?

      June 21, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  11. Colin

    A few questions should help us understand Mormonism

    Who believes that magic gold tablets were dug out of the ground in upstate New York and interpreted into 1800s English through magic seer-stones?

    (a) Little children who read too many fairytales;

    (b) Delusional schizophrenics;

    (c) Addicts who have taken too many drugs; or

    (d) Adult Mormons

    You are about 90% likely to believe the entire Universe began less than 10,000 years ago with only one man, one woman and a talking snake if you are a:

    (a) historian;

    (b) geologist;

    (c) NASA astronomer; or

    (d) Mormon

    I have convinced myself that gay $ex is a choice and not genetic, but then have no explanation as to why only gay people have ho.mo$exual urges. I am

    (a) A fraudulent psychologist

    (b) A discredited geneticist

    (c) A sociologist who has been barred from the profession; or

    (d) A Mormon with the remarkable ability to ignore inconvenient facts.

    I honestly believe that, when I think silent thoughts like, “please god, help me pass my exam tomorrow,” some invisible being is reading my mind and will intervene and alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to help me. I am

    (a) a Dark Ages soothsayer;

    (b) an inbred backwoods hillbilly from West Virginia

    (c) an ignorant farmer from Sudan who never had the benefit of even a fifth grade education; or

    (d) your average Mormon

    Millions of Mormons believe that they can admit dead people into a happy kingdom called “Heaven” by performing some silly ceremony in temples because:

    (a) there are visible indications of the success of their hocus pocus;

    (b) tests have confirmed a divine presence at the ceremonies;

    (c) now and then their god shows up and confirms this procedure; or

    (d) their religious convictions tell them to blindly accept this completely fvcking absurd nonsense.

    I believe that an all powerful being, capable of creating the entire cosmos watches me have $ex to make sure I don't do anything "naughty". I am

    (a) A victim of child molestation

    (b) A r.ape victim trying to recover

    (c) A mental patient with paranoid delusions

    (d) A Mormon

    The only discipline known to often cause people to kill others they have never met and/or to commit suicide in its furtherance is:

    (a) Architecture;

    (b) Philosophy;

    (c) Archeology; or

    (d) Religion

    What is it that most differentiates science and all other intellectual disciplines from religion:

    (a) Religion tells people not only what they should believe, but what they are morally obliged to believe on pain of divine retribution, whereas science, economics, medicine etc. has no “sacred cows” in terms of doctrine and go where the evidence leads them;

    (b) Religion can make a statement, such as “there is a composite god comprised of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit”, and be totally immune from experimentation and challenge, whereas science can only make factual assertions when supported by considerable evidence;

    (c) Science and the scientific method is universal and consistent all over the World whereas religion is regional and a person’s religious conviction, no matter how deeply held, is clearly nothing more than an accident of birth; or

    (d) All of the above.

    I believe the patently absurd garbage that ancient Israelites colonized America and that the secrets of life, death and the Universe were secretly revealed to a failed treasure hunter in upstate New York with a bung leg. I am likely driven by:

    (a) a deep psychiatric issue;

    (b) an irrational fear or phobia;

    (c) a severe mental degeneration caused by years of drug abuse; or

    (d) my Mormon beliefs.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
  12. Rolph Eczema

    Honestly, I would vote for a dancing chicken before I would vote for Mitt Romney, even if that chicken was Mormon.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Bob from Pittsburgh

      But the question remains.. does a dancing chicken taste the same as a non dancing chicken? and also what was first a dancing chicken or a non dancing chicken?
      I am confused...!!

      June 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  13. Bootyfunk

    quit now, Romney - not gonna happen.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
  14. Patriot Storm

    Bias against a Mormon presidential candidate hasn’t budged in 45 years, with 18% of Americans saying they would not vote for a well-qualified candidate who happened to be Mormon, according to a Gallup Poll released Thursday.

    Boy, if anybody can stop that bias Obama can!

    June 21, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Frank Tillery

      I guess you think that was rather glib of you, huh? Just vote pal and leave that sort of commentary to the supposed news organizations.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
  15. N.Shapiro

    A person's rellgon, or lack of it, is a private affair, except where the person has been a "missionary", which makes it public.
    I consider a missionary as any other swindler, pimp, tout or fraud.Romney was a missionary, and in fact used this activity for one of his draft deferments, claiming falsely that he was a 'minister of religion' w hen he was only a doorstep peddler.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • BJ

      Romney has not been a missionary for more than 40 years. FYI.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • msadr

      I seriously doubt anyone who ever met Mother Teresa would agree with your definition of a missionary. idiot.

      June 21, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  16. ptown

    I would be skeptical to vote for someone who believes they will be a god of their own planet. That's a Mormon belief

    June 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      i would be skeptical of someone who believes in any magic man in the sky.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Get yor facts from a trusted source

      Before you publish what you think are someone else's belief (which you have received from someone who does not have that belief or has left the religion because they either did not understand it or did not follow its practices and was excommunicated and is bitter), make sure you learn about it and understand it from a trusted source, I.e. a church leader in your area.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Rolph Eczema

      Mormons are notorious for hiding their beliefs, like baptism of the dead. The LAST person I would trust is your "trusted source" church leader . . . because he is not trustworthy. He would not tell the whole truth.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Craig

      So what you are saying is that, don't trust someone who has gone through the church and got out but trust someone who is still stuck in the church and who is continuously being brainwashed? So, basically what you are saying is that, if I want to buy a Ford car, I should only trust Ford salesmen because they are going to give me true unbiased opinion. (shaking my head)

      June 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
  17. Jesus Christ Superstar

    18% of Americans saying they would not vote for a well-qualified candidate who happened to be Mormon, according to a Gallup Poll released Thursday.

    What about a non qualified candidate like Romney? Because being Mormon is like my 5th or 6th reason I wouldn't vote for him. If I have to pick between a Mormon, a Muslim, and a Jew... sorry Mormon, you're last.

    June 21, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • asdf

      Lol I'd vote for the one that put the least faith in magical underwear.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Huebert

      I'd vote for the one who had the least faith.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "I'd vote for the one who had the least faith."

      So if a person came out and said, "Let's be honest ppl..America kind of sucks and has done some bad things...heck, the US isn't the greatest nation"....you would vote for that person? No faith there.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • asdf

      @uncouth: That would be incredibly accurate and surprisingly refreshing. I think America continues to do dumb things because we can never talk about the dumb things we used to do. Take our foreign policy. We used to go around funding and training any revolution against a government we didn't like. As a result, we were indirectly responsible for genocides all over Central and South America. And many of those people now hate our guts. And yet, if you took out "Central and South America" and put in "The Middle East", it would still be true today.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @asdf- yeah but most ppl like to have some positive faith in their nation. Maybe nothing totally silly but most would like to hear that the US can be great.
      It would be funny to hear a pilitician just go nuts and tell it like that though.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Jesus Christ Superstar

      @Uncouth Swain

      Faith or no faith, the candidate you just described sounds like an HONEST politician, which would get my vote.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
  18. Snow

    Average Mormon (about christians): My fairy tales are better than yours, because they based on your fairy tales – only expanded with space travel. Obviously they are better.

    Average Christian (about mormons): Those idiots do not know fairy tales.. Obviously, the original fairy tales are better than any new ones.

    Average Atheist: ... fairy tales are true? really?

    June 21, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
    • asdf

      Mormonism is to Christianity what "50 shades of Gray" is to "Twilight"....fan fiction....based on fiction.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • sam

      asdf...terrifyingly, that explains our politics lately. Now I need to go put something sharp through one of my eyes, brb.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Snow

      Hah.. those are the two funniest comments I read today! But.. um, can you pass that sharp thing to me after you are done, sam!

      June 21, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
  19. asdf

    holy hell how do 40% of americans not know he's a mormon? Does 40% of this country live in caves?

    June 21, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • Jesus Christ Superstar

      That's the same EXACT 40 % that thinks Obama is a secret Muslim Socialist Marxist Communist (insert generic 'ist' insult here).

      June 21, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Yabba Dabba Don't

      Let's put it this way -in the run up to the war in Iraq, 60% of Americans believed that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, and the same perscentage believed that Iraqis were amongst the hijackers, despite heavy news reporatge to the contrary.

      44% of Americans believe in ghosts.

      36% believe in UFOs

      31% believe in astrology, the same percentage that believes in witches.

      71% believe in angels.

      In other words, there are a hell of a lot of morons out there. Worse, most of these numbers are increasing.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Jesus Christ Superstar

      In all fairness, UFO's are real, just read the Bible.

      Astrology IS a science and has been studied as a science since at LEAST 6000 years before Christ.

      And "angel" is just a misunderstanding of the word "messenger" or "go between" referring to UFO's contacting people on earth.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • ARaine

      Sad isn't it? Makes you wonder what percentage of them vote. I believe the last I checked 4/10 also did not know who the vice president of the US is.

      June 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  20. Ron

    Most people have no idea what their church is teaching and that includes so-called "Christians". Eternity in heaven or hell is not a reality for most people because they cannot grasp it. The issue for Bible believers who go beyond a simple brain washing "catechism" is "Does it contradict the bible?" I will not vote for any man so spiritually blind as to be a current active member of "church" that teaches that Jesus was an angel who is the twin brother of Satan , then became a man who became a God. And to add insult to injuring, regulates the underwear their membership wears

    June 21, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • BJ

      Ron, Mormon's don't believe Jesus is Satan's twin brother. They do believe both were beings created by God and in that sense are brother's spiritually – Satan being Lucifer who fell and became Satan and Jesus being Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament. Not twins. Jesus did become man when he came to earth and died for man, and was then resurrected and returned as God to heaven. I don't see where that contradicts the Bible, although it may not match up with our typical Christian view. I think there is too much misinformation on this issue.

      But I don't think this is a reason not to vote for Romney. He may have some different views on particulars, but overall he supports Christian values and respects and values religious freedom.

      June 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • John

      wow Ron... everything you said was wrong. You must be from the south or something – with that sort of brainless, uneducated statement...

      June 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
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