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Catholic bishops launch religious liberty campaign
Cardinal Donald Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, sings at a Fortnight for Freedom event Sunday in Washington.
June 25th, 2012
03:53 PM ET

Catholic bishops launch religious liberty campaign

By Becky Perlow, CNN

Washington (CNN) -  The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has launched a two-week crusade against what it calls the federal government's violations of its religious liberty.

The campaign, known as the Fortnight for Freedom, is about “prayer, education and action,” said Cardinal Donald Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, in an interview Sunday with CNN.

The campaign, to conclude on Independence Day, has drawn support from Catholic parishioners across the nation, who have held religious rallies, prayer vigils and weekly mass to raise awareness for a new health care mandate the church opposes.

“We’re here to pray. We’re here to educate about freedom. We started this campaign to say religious liberty is eroding,” said Wuerl before a rally Sunday afternoon at George Washington University in Washington.

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According to the Catholic bishops' website, the days leading up to July Fourth will “celebrate a series of great martyrs who remained faithful in the face of persecution by political power,” including Sir Thomas More, John the Baptist and Saints Peter and Paul.

In recent months, the U.S. Catholic Church has expressed concern over the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' proposed contraception mandate, which requires insurance companies for Catholic-affiliated institutions such as hospitals and universities to provide free contraceptive coverage - including, the church says, sterilizations and drugs that could cause abortions - to employees, in violation of Catholic teachings on social issues.

The White House has pushed back against accusations it is curtailing religious liberty. The administration is proposing an exemption for the mandate for churches, but the plan recently lost support from the Catholic Health Association, once the administration's most powerful Catholic ally on the mandate.

Wuerl said the church campaign is not about politics or the controversial mandate. Instead, he said it’s about the government’s attempt to infringe on religious liberty.

John Paul Beller, 14, prays alongside Nicky Morrison, 17, at Sunday's rally.

In an online letter last month to congregants, Wuerl said the scope of the mandate's exception is so narrow that not even Mother Teresa would have qualified.

“The First Amendment enshrines in our nation's Constitution the principle that religious organizations must be able to practice their faith free from government interference,” he said in a letter posted on the Diocese of Washington’s website.

He added, “To be clear, that is the message that the HHS mandate conveys: our beliefs are not welcome.”

Joseph Palacios, director of the Catholics for Equality Foundation, said the church can't play the victimhood card because it receives substantial funds from federal and state governments.

“If the bishops want exemption from the law,” said Palacios in a recent statement, “then they should stop receiving taxpayer funding."

Wuerl, however, insists the money is not a gift - rather, it is an exchange of services between the Catholic Church and the federal government, so there should be no strings attached.

“The government comes to us and says, ‘We would like you to (care) for the homeless (and run) a shelter,’ ” Wuerl said.

“(But) we’re not living off the dole - we’re being paid for something we do," Wuerl said. "But this new mandate goes far beyond that. We don’t get money for our schools. We don’t get money for most of the things that go on in our social service ministries and parishes. We don’t get money for a lot of what we, as Catholic churches, do.”

Wuerl said the church can’t do these good works so long as the contraception mandate includes exemptions only for churches, as opposed to all religiously affiliated institutions.


A woman prays with her rosary at the event in Washington.

For the remainder of the campaign, dioceses across the country will focus on what speaks to their individual community members most, said Chieko Noguchi Scheve, director of media and public relations for the Archdiocese of Washington.

The Diocese of Austin, Texas, for example, has encouraged all Catholics to pray with their rosary beads for the two-week period, while the Diocese of Las Vegas has posted a fill-in-the-blank letter on its website in the hope that parishioners will share their displeasure about the mandate with their U.S. representatives.

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At the Sunday rally, Wuerl stood before a crowd of nearly 2,000, according to a diocese estimate, encouraging audience members that although there was a time to be on their knees - namely, “in the presence of the Lord" - this was not one of them.

Wuerl said it was a time for Catholics to stand up for who they are.

“Today we’re simply reminded as we look back over our history and we look back over our freedom, that there are some things worth standing for,” he told the audience inside George Washington University’s Charles E. Smith Center.

“There’s some things worth getting up for, and religious liberty is one of them," he said. "My brothers and sisters, we simply need to stand.”

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soundoff (171 Responses)
  1. Sam Yaza

    oh oh oh is the catholic church going to help all the pagans police falsely arrest and wright up chump charges for practicing their faith,... of course not who am i kidding,... our country government has been getting more christian in the last 10 years then ever,..our military and police force too,.... welcome to the pseudo-theocratic-plutocracy of America -INC

    June 26, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
  2. Atheist Hunter

    Religious freedom can be found at prolapsed.net. Look deep deep into the eye of God!

    June 26, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • sam stone

      Anyone who claims to know the mind of god is either corrupt or delusional

      June 26, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  3. fritz

    Religion is for the comfortable and well fed. The starving have no need of it. The thing is, when TSHTF happens, most of these hypocrites will toss there religion after a few missed meals. In such cases, the devout will pray and die. Or they will take food from someone else and live...for a while. Until the nest religious person takes THEIR food.

    June 26, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      fritz, what will you be doing when TSHTF ?

      June 26, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  4. Ufia

    "Religious liberty" is their term for forcing their beliefs on everyone else.

    June 26, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  5. Cissy

    The only relevant part of the Catholic church is the work of the NUNS, the big boys know it and they do not like it but they cannot stop people from seeing the truth (anymore) and the male leadership is in full freak out mode over it.

    June 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • catholic engineer

      Shortly after Vatican 2, very many nuns dropped the ball by pursuing their agendas instead of the church's. Guess who picked up the ball? The average woman in the pew. Most of the useful work done in the church today is done by wives and mothers who are long on effort and short on retreats.

      June 26, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  6. Atheist Hunter

    Just sharing…
    prolapsed.net

    June 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  7. kindness

    A thought to consider without an ego response

    Accept Jesus christ as your lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from som other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    June 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • tom

      I'd say your the one with ego thinking your so special that something is in a control booth planning out your life. And why is it a game. If he's so great I'm sure he understands and is open minded.

      June 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • sam stone

      Free people do not need to be saved, slaves do.

      June 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • fritz

      I keep eeing this stupid post everywhere on these religious blogs. Whoever you are, SHUT UP!!!

      June 26, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Know What

      fritz,

      Think of having @kindness here as our little gift to the world... at least she/he is not out there knocking on doors! All we need to do here is scroll on by...

      June 26, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  8. tom

    the churches crying about contraception and religious hospital are a huge contradiction. If contraception is interfering on gods plan of life creation, then hospital are interfering with gods plan on death. Its time people stopped listening to the guys that dress up in costumes. They have never died before and have no idea what they are talkin about. There's been no sighting of anything for thousands of years except on a grilled cheese. Its 2012 have some sense and stopped bringing this bs into politics. If the country says this is what you have to do then deal with it or move to iraq and see how that works out for you.

    June 26, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • gerald

      So Tom, you have given us the ultimate word on death apparently and the morals of interferring with it. You force your idea that it is immoral to preserve life on the Church without understand why the Church says it is not. Then try to apply some superior logic of your own to the equation. You are god tom. We are not worthy. Are you absolutely sure that your statements are true?

      June 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • tom

      Religion is equal to crazy and I've enough of the crazys making it everyones problem.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • tom

      Know nothing for sure but religions claim they do. That makes me oppen minded and you if you are reigious, brainwashed and scared of the "what ifs" the church scares you with. No alive person has ever died so they should preach as though they have.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  9. Chris

    I'm a Catholic but am really upset that my Church in America is turning into a fundamentalist religion. That's not who the Catholic Church is! I was schooled by Franciscans. These are Franciscans who taught us evolution and science. Never was there a question that the study and acceptance of these things would conflict with their faith in God. However the current 'incarnation' of the Church in the USA has more in common with the more fundamentalist churches of America than the Church I've known growing up. Its sad and actually worrying.

    June 26, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Omar

      Read the bible. Realize that the catholic church is the harlot in revelation. Rwalize that God punishes those who disobey His law. Sunday is the mark of the beast. Saturday, the 7th day, is the holy day of God.

      June 26, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • sam stone

      That does seem to be way religions go....to out pious each other

      June 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • sam stone

      Ooooh, the beast.

      June 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Answer

      @Omar

      You're way too stupid even for yourself. But all the more entertaining to see you out bs all the other crazies out there in the vast internet.

      Congrats.

      June 26, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • sam stone

      Omar: Your god is an impotent little punk. Now, get back on your knees before he sees you attempting to be a man

      June 26, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • gerald

      Chris, Catholicism is not the franciscans. Unfortunately the catholicism you learned sounds like it is in error from the 2000 year old teaching of the Church. Those who are not united with the Bishops and Rome are not in unity with the Church. Sorry.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • sam

      omg, now Chris just isn't catholic enough? LOL

      June 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  10. Atheist Hunter

    just sharing........
    http://savecalifornia.com/not-born-this-way.html

    June 26, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • BRC

      "save California"

      Really? Save? Here's one. Lets say that all the psycologists and behavior scientists are wrong, and everyone wo professes to be gay was in fact born strate, and chose to change. How does that threaten California? What does the state need to be saved from?

      June 26, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • Primewonk

      I went to your website. I had high hopes that finally you ignorant homôphobic cretins would finally be posting peer-reviewed scientific evidence that gays choose to be gay.

      Sadly. It's just more religious drivel and lies.

      Why am I not surprised?

      June 26, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • sam

      Stop 'sharing', you jackwagon.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  11. Portland tony

    I think the church should count its blessingss and get back to basics. Maybe administering to the poor and saving souls.

    June 26, 2012 at 9:08 am |
  12. Rational Libertarian

    Even though I'm vehemently opposed to the contraception mandate, I'm glad there is no religious exception to the rule. Somebody needs to tell these bishops that religious liberty doesn't equal religious preference.

    June 26, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      The problem is the Bishops have decided that their loyalty is to the Vatican and not to the non-Catholic employees or users of the services they provide for which they receive benefits from the Federal Government. While I am personally opposed to abortion, I also know that I do not have the right to force my personal belief on anyone else. On the other hand, I have no problem with contraception. The Catholic Church, on the other hand, insists that abstinence (a worthy goal that their own clergy should subscribe to) and the Rhythm Method are the only acceptable means to prevent pregnancy. (Quick Joke – What do you call a couple that practices the Rhythm Method and has 10 kids? Catholic). Some women need to avoid pregnancy due to medical conditions, and others have their own reasons that I really don't need to know. What it comes down to is why should the Catholic Church be the exception to the rule of providing contraception benefits to employees?

      June 26, 2012 at 8:34 am |
  13. jim

    The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression, published by Harvard University Press, is the work of eleven scholars that ignited a continental firestorm when it first hit bookstores in France in 1997. The authors estimate the century's death toll at the hands of Atheistic Communist governments (excluding wars) at 100 million people. Country by country, deaths by the state in China stand at 65 million, in the USSR 20 million, Vietnam 1 million, North Korea 2 million, Cambodia 2 million, Eastern Europe 1 million, Latin America 150,000, Africa 1.7 million, and Afghanistan 1.5 million. Additionally, the international Communist movement murdered about 10,000 people throughout the world." (Author's emphasis).

    June 26, 2012 at 6:17 am |
    • Mirosal

      Your own "god" is responsible for world-wide genocide of the human race. Try reading about Noah's flood. Hey, don't look at me, I'm just telling you what YOUR on little "holy book" says. Your "god" loved to kill entire peoples. Just look to your Old Testament for reference. Read about the Crusades, the Inquisition, the English civil war, and really look at what the Spaniards did to the native people of the "New World"; all in the name of your "god".

      June 26, 2012 at 6:34 am |
    • sam stone

      in those countries, the state was god. so, they weren't godless. nice try, though

      June 26, 2012 at 6:35 am |
    • Brampt

      Mirasol- God killed all those people because the world of that time was extremely violent. But he saved the righteous ones. He promises to do the same thing soon, I'm glad he does or else in our world the people that love peace will never have peace and will continue suffering at the hands of greedy and violent people. God knows what he does, it's not like any governante when goes to war kills innocent toghether with the person that's guilty.

      June 26, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • sam stone

      Brampt: What makes you so sure you will be among the righteous?

      June 26, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Brampt
      So God killed every single living thing on the planet, including plants and animals, becuase they were unrighteous?
      Only the 600 year old Noah, his sons and their respective spouses were righteous?
      What about Lot? A man willing to give his daughters over to a ravenous mob to be ra/ped isn't righteous in my book.
      And besides, didn't God promise never to kill everbody ever again? Isn't that what the Bible says rainbows symbolize?

      June 26, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Brampt

      Sam stone- no I don't consider my self to be righteous as I'm a sinner like you are. But I'm trying my best to fight against my self to be considered by God in between those who he considers righteous. Knowing of course that he doesn't need me or any human for nothing. But he's loving and shows mercy to anyone that thats trying to do things his way.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Brampt

      Doc- God didnt really kill every thing, proof is that today where 7 billion people alive and there's thousands of species of animals and vegetation. In noahs days God used Noahs to advertise people to repent and take Gods side before the flood, but the people of his days didn't want to take Gods side. As a US citizen you have to accomplish the country's laws. God as the owner of the universe expects his creation to obey his laws as well, and of couse if people don't want to he has to act. The result of people not obeying his laws have been exposed for thousands of years, plagues, death, even possible extintion is forecasted for humanity... But today as in Noahs time God is inviting people to take his side before he put and end to people that act just like the people in Noahs days, for the sake of everlasting peace on earth. Before he acts he always give people to change, just like in Noahs time, he made Noah advertise to those people for like 40 years, but nobody listened to him.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • sam stone

      Brampt: And, by "his way".....what do you mean?

      June 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
    • sam stone

      Brampt: I suppose I am saying that not everyone can fear retaliation from (your version of) god. Given that, these warnings of yours are just so much blah, blah, blah

      June 26, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • Brampt

      Stone- his ways meaning through the bible the only way he speak to human mankind. And no I'm not condeming you, I hope that God has mercy of me and you and all the other people, when he comes to bring justice and peace upon earth. For him to establish his kingdom on earth he has to eliminate the elements that destroy our planet and morality... Governments, false religion( gives a wrong view of God to people) and commercial sistem, and people that oppose God, that show with there actions that the will not be good citizens under the rulership of Gods kingdom.

      June 26, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
  14. Brampt

    Why would they talk about freedom of religion if they were the ones that persecuted and killed people that would try to talk the truth in the bible and expose there false teachings? From the middle ages and still in some country until today??

    June 26, 2012 at 12:44 am |
    • tom

      Couldn't have said it better. People need to wake up.

      June 26, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  15. dougindeap

    I understand that some Catholics now think they and their religion are victims of the administration's implementation of the health care law and that the law forces employers to act contrary to their consciences. I think, though, that they have been duped by their bishops and are being used to serve the bishops' rather ordinary political aims.

    Notwithstanding the bishops' arm waving about religious liberty, the health care law does not force employers to act contrary to their consciences. Contrary to bishops' assertions and the widespread belief of those who trustingly accept their claims, the law does no such thing.

    Many initially worked themselves into a lather with the false idea that the law forces employers to provide their employees with health care plans offering services the employers consider immoral. The fact is that employers have the option of not providing any such plans and instead simply paying assessments to the government (which, by the way, would generally amount to far less than the cost of health plans). Unless one supposes that the employers’ religion forbids payments of money to the government (all of us should enjoy such a religion), then the law’s requirement to pay assessments does not compel those employers to act contrary to their beliefs. Problem solved.

    Some nonetheless have continued clamoring for such an exemption, complaining that by paying assessments to the government they would indirectly be paying for the very things they opposed. They seemingly missed that that is not a moral dilemma justifying an exemption to avoid being forced to act contrary to one’s beliefs, but rather is a gripe common to many taxpayers–who don’t much like paying taxes and who object to this or that action the government may take with the benefit of “their” tax dollars. Should each of us be exempted from paying our taxes so we aren’t thereby “forced” to pay for making war, providing health care, teaching evolution, or whatever else each of us may consider wrong or even immoral?

    In any event, those complaining made enough of a stink that the government relented and announced that religious employers would be free to provide health plans with provisions to their liking (yay!) and not be required to pay the assessments otherwise required (yay!). Problem solved–again, even more.

    Nonetheless, some continue to complain, fretting that somehow the services they dislike will get paid for and somehow they will be complicit in that. They argue that if insurers or employees pay for such services, those costs will somehow, someday be passed on to the employers in the form of demands for higher insurance premiums or higher wages. They evidently believe that when they spend a dollar and it thus becomes the property of others, they nonetheless should have some say in how others later spend that dollar. One can only wonder how it would work if all of us could tag “our” dollars this way and control their subsequent use.

    The bishops are coming across more and more as just another special interest group with a big lobbying operation and a big budget—one, moreover, that is not above stretching the truth.

    June 26, 2012 at 12:31 am |
  16. Dorothy

    The use of oral contraceptives have been shown to decrease the risk of ovarian cancer in celibate women. It would seem to me that an organization which extols the virtue of the celibate life would not withhold this type of hormonal therapy from its nuns. What a shame.

    June 25, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Randy

      Ive heard a tsp of sperm will do the same thing. Women should take it in the mouth its quite pleasurable and tasty Iknow!!!

      June 26, 2012 at 12:20 am |
    • b4bigbang

      But on the other hand, breast cancer rates have exploded in countries where use of the pill is widespread, and this huge increase in breast cancer began at the time that the pill became popular.
      I know a cancer research doctor, and she told me that the pill is a suspect.

      June 26, 2012 at 12:46 am |
    • derp

      "I know a cancer research doctor, and she told me that the pill is a suspect"

      Complete and utter fabrication.

      There is not one shred of scientific evidence that the pill is linked in any way to breast cancer. Check the American Cancer Society website.

      Any suggested link between birth control pills and breast cancer is simply anti contraception propaganda perpetuated by religious fuktards with an agenda.

      The entire legitimate medical community thinks you, or your friend is a liar.

      June 26, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • Primewonk

      @b4bigbang – except, of course, that is a lie.

      The National Instîtutes of Health, National Cancer Instîtutes reports via the National Nurses Study, that there is a very slight increase in risk àssociation. And this was limitied to one specific type (triphase) oral contraceptive.

      But Hey! Why let the truth stand in the way of another fundiot lie!

      June 26, 2012 at 9:24 am |
    • BRC

      @B4bigbang,
      Fun fact, instead of what you said, which has been pretty clearly dismissed above, a number of deoderants and antiperspirants that conain large amounts of zinc HAVE been considered a contributing factor in the increase of cancers. I don't thin kthat means we need to outlaw speed stick though. We could just agree that cancer is a profoundly complex medical issue, that has a range of influences, and can be casue by and react differently in each and every body. That seems like a reasonable thing to do, outside of those chemicals and carcinogens that have a CLEAR and directly corolary relationaship.

      June 26, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • sam stone

      Why do folks like B4bigbang have to make stuff up? Do they really have no argument without lying? Don't they imagine that the god they bloviate on so endlessly would not approve of their lies?

      June 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  17. truth

    2 Thessalonians 2 >>
    New International Version 1984

    12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

    June 25, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Szilard 88:16 I'm all in favor of the democratic principle that one idiot is as good as one genius, but I draw the line when someone takes the next step and concludes that two idiots are better than one genius.

      June 26, 2012 at 9:28 am |
    • sam stone

      wow, truth, a quote from an iron age comic book. nothing more convincing than that.

      June 26, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • PFUI

      truth,
      "2 Thessalonians 2"

      Paul of Tarsus: "Me, me, ME... listen to me, Me, ME. I have the truth, Truth, TRUTH! You are a wicked fool if you don't believe me!"

      June 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  18. Bootyfunk

    the grumbling of old men, religious zealots that are out of touch with anything resembling modern society. good luck controlling women's reproductive rights. because that's what this is about - control. they are mad that they can't take the rights of women away... ridiculous.

    June 25, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Reality

      What rights are being taken away? (Condoms can be purchased by anyone over the counter. Said right of purchase has not been taken away.)

      The current status of se-x, contraception and STDs-

      : – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

      Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...

      The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

      : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

      Added information before making your next move:

      from the CDC-2006

      "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

      And from:

      Consumer Reports, January, 2012

      "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

      Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

      "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

      Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

      The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":
      – (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
      – (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)
      Followed by:
      One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
      Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
      The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
      Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
      IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

      Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

      June 25, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  19. jay

    "encouraging audience members that although there was a time to be on their knees – namely, “in the presence of the Lord" – this was not one of them."

    False religion has false faith. The catholic church is seriously at its most pathetic. The governments will stomp you out of existence very soon.

    June 25, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Reality

      Some nitty-gritty:

      "Twenty-one states offer exemptions from contraceptive coverage, usually for religious reasons, for insurers or employers in their policies: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan (administrative rule), Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas and West Virginia."

      ( I doubt these states will be stomped out anytime soon)

      http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/insurance-coverage-for-contraception-state-laws.aspx

      Next:

      The Catholic hierachy do not believe in artificial birth control so why do they employ those who do? Did not the Supreme Court recently decide that religious organizations have the right to decide who they hire and fire? Bottom line: To reduce health insurance costs and to not be subject to Obama care regulations about supplying contraceptives, Catholic groups should simply not hire those who want contraceptives and fire those who demand such coverage.

      Next:

      There are different opinions as to what a religion really is or what a non-profit is and therefore all non-profits should file Form 990's. At the moment, religious groups are exempt. To be fair therefore, there should be no tax-exemptions for any group and that includes the Democratic and Republican Parties. Faith and community initiative grant monies should also be cancelled and there should also be no tax deductions for contributions made to charities and non-profits.

      Next:

      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/supreme-court-backs-church-in-landmark-religious-liberty-case/

      "The government must stay out of hiring and firing decisions by a religious organization, even if a minister sues for employment discrimination, the Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday.

      Religious freedom groups praised the decision, and especially the fact that it came from a unanimous court."

      June 25, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • WASP

      @reality: "The Catholic hierachy do not believe in artificial birth control so why do they employ those who do?"

      but the catholic hierachy doesn't have a problem with artificial impregnation; i.e. viagra. it artificially allows a guy with an erection problem to impregnate a female, but the female has no right to contriceptives? you see the hypocrisy in that situation

      June 26, 2012 at 7:28 am |
    • Mirosal

      That's because the hieracrchy is a bunch of OLD men who need Viagra for the little boys. They also seem to think they NEED to tell women what they want and/or need, because they know ALL about women, children, marriage, because they have so much practical experience, don't they? After all, they are priests.. you have to trust them, right? I hope i pegged your sarcasm meter 🙂

      June 26, 2012 at 7:32 am |
    • Reality

      The RCC allows contraception. They do however object to artificial means.

      The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":

      – (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)- RCC approved
      – (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)

      Followed by:

      One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
      Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
      The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
      Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
      IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
      Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)- RCC approved
      Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)- RCC approved (condoms only in certain situations as per the Pope as in Africa to assist in stopping the spread of AIDS)
      Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)-RCC approved

      Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

      June 26, 2012 at 9:02 am |
  20. Reality

    Condoms are available over the counter or from amazon.com at 33 cents/ea with Prime shipping. Make the Pill (type dependent on doctor’s evaluation) available over the counter and there will be no more debate. Planned Parenthood can offer deep discounts for those who say they cannot afford said protection.

    Or better yet, put a pack of condoms and a box of Pills in cereal boxes. Unfortunately, that would not ensure the condoms and/or Pills would be used. Based on Guttmacher Insti-tute data, said condoms and/or Pills are currently not being used as they should. (one million abortions/yr and 19 million cases of S-TDs/yr because either the daily Pill was not taken or a condom stayed in the pocket.)

    June 25, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
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