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Jesus depicted healing a sick child.
June 28th, 2012
08:45 AM ET

Would Jesus support health care reform?

Editor’s note: This piece ran earlier this year, but we’re spotlighting it now because of Thursday’s health care decision from the Supreme Court. The story generated more than 3,000 comments, including these two:

David Nelson
It is sad that Jesus has been demoted to being a politician. Jesus plainly said "My Kingdom is not of this world." Movements to use Him to promote their agendas, whether they be on the Left or Right, are extremely suspect in the eyes of this Christian.

kateslate
Jesus would SO have been a democrat. He taught us to care for the sick...not to profit off illness. I don't know how Republicans can live with themselves and call themselves Christian.

What’s your take?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - He was a healer, a provider of universal health care, a man of compassion who treated those with preexisting medical conditions.

We don’t know what Jesus thought about the individual mandate or buying broccoli. But we do know how the New Testament describes him. The Gospels are filled with stories of Jesus physically healing the most vulnerable and despised people in his society.

References to Jesus, of course, didn’t make into the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s hearings on the constitutionality of President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act. Yet there is a moral dimension to this epic legal debate:

How should the nation help its “least of these,” an estimated 50 million Americans who can’t afford health insurance, as well as those who could go broke or die because they can’t afford medical care?

Christians are as divided about this question as others. Many cite Jesus, but come up with completely different conclusions.

Trust God or government?

Tom Prichard, a Lutheran and president of the Minnesota Family Council, said it’s ultimately about faith.  Who do we trust – God or government?

He opposes “Obamacare” because he has more faith in the market and people, than government.

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“Here Jesus’ words come to mind about not worrying and trusting God to meet our basic needs,” Prichard wrote in an online post warning about the dangers of “government run health care.” “Or if we believe it all depends on us, we’ll look to government.”

When reached at his Minnesota office,Prichard elaborated: He said the nation should empower families and individuals to make health-care decisions. If families can’t afford health insurance, private and public entities like churches and nonprofits should step in, he said.

“We all have the same goal,”Prichard said. “We want all people to have health care, even people who can’t afford it. I would argue that having the government be the primary vehicle for providing it is not going to get us to that goal. It’s going to make the situation worse.”

Carl Raschke, a religious studies professor at the University of Denver, evoked Jesus’ words about Rome and taxation.

Raschke cited the New Testament passage when Jesus, after being asked if Jews should pay taxes to Rome, said that people should "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."

Jesus was against strictly political or economic solutions because he thought they were too easy when it comes to the real challenges of human life, Raschke said.

“Writing checks won’t solve social problems,” Raschke said. “One has to get involved. If we see someone in need, we just don’t throw a dollar at him or her. You get to know them, you offer yourself, and ask what you can do for them.”

Helping the Good Samaritans of our day

There are some Christians, though, who say that charity isn’t enough to solve the nation’s health care problems.

An estimated 32 million Americans could lose health insurance if “Obamacare” is struck down, including children who can stay on their parents’ insurance until they are 26 and seniors who get help paying for their drug prescriptions. Most observers say health care costs would continue to rise.

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Some people believe the health care situation in America would be scandalous to Jesus because he was a prophet concerned about social justice.

Steven Kraftchick, a religious scholar, said Jesus comes out of the tradition of Jewish prophets who preached that the health of a society could be measured by how well they took care of “its widows and orphans,” those who had the least power.

Kraftchick said there’s a famous story in the Gospel of Mark in which Jesus heals such a person. He was the man who called himself Legion. He might have been called homeless and mentally ill. The man roamed a graveyard, so tormented that even chains could not hold him and everyone feared him, Mark wrote.

Jesus healed the man not only physically, but socially as well, according to Mark. The man returned to his community with a sense of dignity, said Kraftchick, a professor at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology in Atlanta.

“A move toward universal health care would be fitting with the prophetic traditions,” Kraftchick said. “When you read the New Testament and look at the signs of the in-breaking of the Kingdom of God, it’s always connected to being physically healed.”

Yet Marcia Pally, an authority on evangelicals, said many evangelicals are wary of government doing the healing.  Their reasons go back centuries.

Many are the descendants of people who fled Europe because of religious persecution from countries and state churches. They fought a revolution against a government in England.  And they settled a frontier, where the virtue of self-reliance was critical, said Pally, author of “The New Evangelicals: Expanding the Vision of the Common Good.”

Suspicion of government is part of their historical and religious experience, said Pally, a professor at Fordham University and New York University.

Those attitudes, though, may be changing. Pally said she spent six years traveling across America to interview evangelicals. She discovered that a new generation of evangelists now believes that certain issues are too big and complex to be addressed by charity alone.

“Some note that charity is very good at the moment of emergency relief but it doesn’t change the underlying problem  unless structures that keep people poor, sick or deny their access to health insurance are changed,” she said.

No matter what the Supreme Court decides, the legal debate will continue. If more Americans go broke or die because they do not have health insurance, more Americans may ask, what would Jesus do?

But don’t expect any easy answers from the Bible, said Raschke, the religious studies professor at the University of Denver.

“People are always looking for support from the Bible for American political positions,” Rashke said. “Would Jesus be against abortion, or would he support a woman’s right to choose? It’s almost become a standard joke in the theological world that you quote Jesus in American politics to support your political views.

“The teachings of Jesus do not fit into the views of any political party."

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Christianity • Health care • Jesus • Politics

soundoff (5,234 Responses)
  1. Leslie Todd

    I must disagree with one comment that says that our government should not be trusted with our health , Well the hospitals will be owned by the same people and not the government , also doctors would not be working for the government , the government will not be provideing any medical decisions by the hospital or the doctor , the only place the affordable health care act in all of this would be to make sure everyone that wants medical insurance would have it and thats the governments only input .

    April 2, 2012 at 10:32 am |
  2. Dwayne

    No – he wouldn't support it because he didn't believe in theft. He didn't believe in taking by force from one individual, and giving to another. The whole liberal belief is to take from one who has more, and give to he who has less, when the one who had less didn't deserve or work for it.

    April 2, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • William Demuth

      Dwayne. I suspect you have never read the Bible.

      Please do, and then check back in.

      (There will be a quiz)

      April 2, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Mandolin Bee

      I really guess that depends on whether you believe everything that is kept by the top 1% was actually "worked for" BY the top 1%.

      I mean... if I convince a homeless guy to do my $10/hr job (the fictional company won't hire him directly because he has no permanent address, a very REAL situation), but I only pay him $1/hr and keep the rest... it's my $9, right? But who is "working for it"? If he tells me the job is worth more and he'd like a raise, is he trying to "steal" my money?

      On a grander scale, the millions and billions of dollars created by any given company is the result of a whole lot of people's work being kept by a very few people. People believe that money should somehow find its way into the hands of -everyone- who helped make it happen.

      My litmus test would be something like... if half your employees quit, how much would your company's profits fall? If it wouldn't fall much, then sure the guys at the top deserve their hundred-million-dollar bonuses. If they plummet - that money belongs to more than the few, and is being stolen by the people at the top just because they "can". It's only theirs in name, like my profit from the homeless man. Completely legal, but undeserved.

      April 2, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Primewonk

      Funny. The "red" states have the highest percentages of religious folks. The "red" states also are net consumers of ferderal funding – meaning for every dollar they pay in federal taxes, they get back more than a dollar in federal aid, funds, grants, etc.

      April 2, 2012 at 11:16 am |
  3. Rev. Rick

    Quoting the last sentence in the article, “The teachings of Jesus do not fit into the views of any political party."

    Oh yes they do!! Jesus' teachings fit the GOP perfectly! (If you believe it, just ask them.)

    April 2, 2012 at 10:04 am |
  4. William Demuth

    Wold the Incredible Hulk support it?

    April 2, 2012 at 8:47 am |
  5. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things
    Prayer changes lives

    April 2, 2012 at 6:47 am |
    • Reality

      This prayer actually does change things:

      ONLY FOR THE NEWCOMERS:

      he Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (References used are available upon request.)

      April 2, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    • .....

      reality does not think for itself copy paste of others lies hit report abuse on all reality bull sh it

      April 2, 2012 at 7:51 am |
  6. truth

    Matthew 10 >>
    Aramaic Bible in Plain English

    1And he called his twelve disciples and he gave them authority over foul spirits to cast them out, and to heal every ailment and disease.

    5These twelve Yeshua sent and he commanded them and he said, “You shall not go by a road of the heathen and you shall not enter a city of the Samaritans.” 6“But go especially to the sheep that have been lost of the house of Israel.” 7“And as you are going, preach and say “The Kingdom of Heaven has come near.” 8“Heal the sick, purify the lepers and cast out demons; freely you have received, freely give.” 9“You shall not retain gold, neither silver, nor copper in your moneybags,” 10“Neither wallet for the way, nor two coats, neither shoes, nor staff, for a laborer is worthy of his provisions.” 11“Whichever city or village you enter, ask who is worthy in it and stay there until you leave.” 12“And when you enter a household, invoke the peace of the household.” 13“And if that household is worthy, your blessing of peace will come upon it, but if not, your blessing of peace will return unto you.” 14“But whoever does not receive you, neither listens to your words, when you depart from the house or from the village, shake the sand from your feet.” 15“And truly I say to you, it will be tranquil in the day of judgment for the land of Sadom and Ammora compared to that city.”
    16“Behold, I am sending you as lambs among wolves; be therefore crafty as snakes and innocent as doves.” 17“But beware of the children of men, for they will deliver you to the courts and they will scourge you in their synagogues.” 18“And they will bring you before Governors and Kings because of me, for their testimony and that of the Gentiles.” 19“But when they arrest you, do not be anxious how or what you will speak, for it will be given to you in that hour what you should say.” 20“For it will not be you speaking, but The Spirit of your Father speaking in you.”
    21“But brother will deliver his brother to death, and a father his son, and children will rise against their parents and will put them to death.” 22“And you will be hated by everyone because of my name, but whoever will endure until the end, he will be saved.”

    April 2, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • jim

      Heal the sick, purify the lepers and cast out demons; freely you have received, freely give.” 9“You shall not retain gold, neither silver, nor copper in your moneybags,” 10“Neither wallet for the way, nor two coats, neither shoes, nor staff, for a laborer is worthy of his provisions.”

      So Jesus would have healed the sick for free. huh. I guess the real problem then is the greedy corprate Hospitals who charge so much in the 1st place that we are in this predicament. No wonder they, inc the insurance companys, want this so bad. Could you imagine the wealth that they could build with everyone required to carry ins. Greed is the problem, your health is only as importantant as the size of your wallet.

      April 2, 2012 at 1:33 am |
    • jim

      Heal the sick, purify the lepers and cast out demons; freely you have received, freely give.” 9“You shall not retain gold, neither silver, nor copper in your moneybags,” 10“Neither wallet for the way, nor two coats, neither shoes, nor staff, for a laborer is worthy of his provisions.”

      So Jesus would have healed the sick for free. huh. I guess the real problem then is the greedy corprate Hospitals who charge so much in the 1st place that we are in this predicament. No wonder they, inc the insurance companys, want this so bad. Could you imagine the wealth that they could build with everyone required to carry ins. Greed is the problem, your health is only as importantant as the size of your wallet. Dont be fooled.

      April 2, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • Reality

      JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")

      Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic (ditto for Matt 10: 1-22) by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.

      Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

      Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

      Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

      So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man would do or say?

      April 2, 2012 at 7:51 am |
  7. Thetruth

    Who are these agents known such as John blake and their host of CNN propaganda machine? To whom do their writings benefit? It's a genuine question.
    How can you being religious for so long and still not get a clue? Certainly you must be on the wrong side. The side of the depraved.
    DID JESUS EVER SUPPORT DISEASE? no.
    Should that be the question of christian? I guess not for the CNN editors. And their false blood thirsty money loving christians flocks are of the same mind as them.
    Why don't you stop fluoridating the water first, and stop vaccinating the babies and making money off them? Why don't you start being a producer instead of the ALWAYS being THE CONSUMER aka sow and reap. Why don't you start drinking Raw milk instead of boiling it? Why don't you rebuke Monsato. I never heard Monsato at church.
    Where is your wisdom? WHAT DOES HEALTHCARE AND JESUS HAVE IN COMMON? Follow the money, please.
    Gee what happened to you? Did Jesus not healed ALL that came to him.
    How can you carry your cross when you are having hard time carrying your own leg?
    It's written that Jesus rebuke the fever. This is as if the disease were alive. But is this a news to the righteous? No. For the diseases are known to be demons, after having been invited into someone and overcoming his spirit, they manifest themselves in the flesh. Therefore Jesus having ALL UNDERSTANDING and not seeking his own glory (making money off the sick aka health care) spoke to the demons and rebuking them.
    This is God school 101. You don't need to sign a health care agreement for that. Repent CNN.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:16 am |
    • Mandolin Bee

      >>> "Gee what happened to you? Did Jesus not healed ALL that came to him."
      - Well, to be fair, it didn't cost Jesus a dime to do his healing. If hospitals worked for free, you wouldn't have the "quality" care you see today. There's not enough free will charity to even run the few "free" clinics that exist today. Where would all the charity come from to run -every- hospital?

      >>>"It's written that Jesus rebuke the fever. This is as if the disease were alive. But is this a news to the righteous? No. For >>> the diseases are known to be demons, after having been invited into someone and overcoming his spirit, they manifest >>> themselves in the flesh."

      So, all disease comes from sin/wickedness/demons? Does that mean a Christian that has strong faith never goes to a doctor? They can just pray an illness away?

      April 2, 2012 at 11:40 am |
  8. Reality

    How much money would the following save the US taxpayers with some of these savings being used to pay for universal health care ?:

    There never were and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror

    – One trillion dollars over the next several years as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will end.

    – Eighteen billion dollars/yr to Pakistan will stop.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Egypt will end.

    There were never any bodily resurrections and there will never be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity!!!

    – The Mormon empire will now become taxable as will all Christian "religions" and evangelical non-profits since there is no longer any claim to being a tax-exempt religion.

    Abraham and Moses never existed.

    – Four billion dollars/yr to Israel saved.

    – All Jewish sects and non-profits will no longer be tax exempt.

    Now all we need to do is convince these 3.5+ billion global and local citizens that they have been conned all these centuries Time for a YouTube,Twitter and FaceBook campaign!!!!

    April 1, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
  9. AaaaCccc

    Jesus did not get involved with these issues. Health care reform won't happen because of politics. Until you take politicians out and put patients, nurses, social workers in charge ( doctors excluded deliberately) then reform will not even begin to solve any problem in health care.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  10. gman

    jesus would support a government by the people , for the people , and of the people . especially if it
    promoted god values. what administrations vote in or out is by the people. wheter or not they follow gods
    moral character is what he's concerned with. if we didn't have the sin we do in the world there wouldn't be
    a budget problem or death or taxes or any other problem. we gave all that up for a time when man fell.
    when he returns we will see his wisdom again.

    April 1, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • O.S. Bird

      It's incredible – and troubling sometimes – how some people state with convistion what Jesus would do regarding this or that? Aren't you afraid that he'll smite you silly for being so presumptious?

      April 1, 2012 at 10:46 pm |
    • gman

      @ O.S. BIRD , no ! if you read the old testament and look at moses , he formed the government at the time
      according to gods word and instructions to him personally. the bible commands us to preach the gospel. he
      commands us to tell people about him and his word. not doing so is more reason to be afraid of your
      eternal destination.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
  11. jofro

    “The teachings of Jesus do not fit into the views of any political party."

    That line pretty much sums up everything you need to know about Jesus's views. Maybe that line will be read by both Democrat and Republican leaders.

    April 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
  12. Bill Burke

    Pope Benedict XVI said it was the moral responsibility of nations to guarantee access to health care for all of their citizens, regardless of social and economic status or their ability to pay. I'm with him!

    April 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
  13. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    April 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • twentytwenty

      What isn't healthy, is people like you saying that it isn't healthy for people to not believe as you.

      To me that sounds like a threat!!
      and you sound like a dangerous nut!
      why can't people believe as they wish, find for themselves what they can believe.
      its very easy to not believe in any of the big religions, that clam they have books from god, or that god has spoke directly to the writes of your man written books. Especially when you consider that those who wrote these bibles, had high stakes and interest invested in these atrocious books. That command slitting the throats of the people from other countries, or taking their lands and possessions, and even their people. Using them as slaves!

      Instead of spouting your ignorance why dont you try and give some conceivable evidence, for them to believe in a god!
      and keep the evils and lies from your so called bible out of the conversation.

      April 1, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • just sayin

      It is hard to believe 20/20 is as bad off as it lets on.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • Jesus

      ~~~Still spreading your lies. No it doesn't. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.!

      April 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  14. johnfrichardson

    What's Thor's position on global warming, btw?

    April 1, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
  15. ug

    NO...what kind of a stupid question is that? oh wait it is from the lib media terrorist cnn that is who...trying to bring religion into politics again and doing the double standard of course...just another way to try to fool us all...it didn't work.

    April 1, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  16. AARONRYAN777

    THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS THE RFID CHIP PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! ITS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES REVELATION IS TRUTH OPEN YOUR EYES THE CHIP UNDER THE SKIN WELL ITS HERE ITS BEEN HERE THE RFID CHIP IS IT THAT GOS UNDER THE SKIN . . . and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

    - Revelation 13:15-17 RFID CHIP GOS IN THE RIGHT HAND PEOPLE WAKE THE HECK UP!!!J

    April 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
    • twentytwenty

      The mark of the beast is your bible!
      your bible commands killing, rapine, and devilishness.
      Kill the children! Does that sound very godlike to you?

      Satan is in your church, and is the writer of your bible!
      turn your back on the evil now before it's too late!

      April 1, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
  17. AARONRYAN777

    THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS THE RFID CHIP PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! ITS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES REVELATION IS TRUTH OPEN YOUR EYES THE CHIP UNDER THE SKIN WELL ITS HERE ITS BEEN HERE THE RFID CHIP IS IT THAT GOS UNDER THE SKIN . . . and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

    - Revelation 13:15-17 RFID CHIP GOS IN THE RIGHT HAND PEOPLE WAKE THE HECK UP!!!

    April 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  18. M-Theory

    Atheism is ridiculous. Anyone who states unequivocally that something unprovable yet possible does not exist, is simply taking a devil's-advocate position to spite a group of believers.

    I'm a student of science. The more one delves into science, specifically cosmology or quantum theories- the more one understands that reality and perception are intertwined. Space & time are relative and matter itself is altered by perception. Because of this, we may be self-creating. We may be a collective whole and our own god yet to invent ourselves. We may the unconscious god existing as confused individuals. Nobody at this stage, has the capacity to comprehend what is possible in regards to limits of matter and mind, beginning or end.

    April 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • johnfrichardson

      Oh goody, the quantum mystic ejaculation time has come again.

      April 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
    • Anon

      Check out A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing by Lawrence M. Krauss

      April 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • twentytwenty

      Atheism is what people turn too when they realize your so called bibles are filled with evils, and hatred!
      it is Satan who wants you to remain ignorant!
      god gave you reason, and not just you, he gave the gift of reason to every living creature on earth. So that they may seek and learn what gods plans are!
      Satan gave you a book of evil, and lies, called the bible. And his grasp on you is enforced by imparting fear into you from a very young age!
      God does not impart fear in you to believe in him. He gives you the gift of reason, so that you may divided for your self what is right, what is good, and what is bad, and what is wrong!

      use your god given sense of reason, and you will conclude that the bible is that of wickedness, and evils!

      April 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Ashrakay

      @M-Theory, It's great when people armed with a minute bit of information try to enter the adult conversation. I also recommend "A Universe from Nothing." Be warned, information contained is real science and may not be taught at your christian college.

      April 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
  19. jimbo

    Would Garfield the Cat support public health care reform?

    April 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  20. Patrick

    “I have been forced to support the establishments I have mentioned through taxation and God knows they cost more than they're worth. Those who are badly off must go there.” – Ebenezer Scrooge

    Jesus’ mission was to change our hearts. ‘Charity’ compelled by the state does not do this. Even if President Obama’s healthcare system covered all the uninsured, lowered overall costs, and relieved the suffering of millions, it would still not meet Jesus’ standard.

    Charity is based on love, and love is a choice. Before His crucifixion, Christ said, “Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not my will but yours be done.” (Matthew 26:39). None of us could drink this cup until Christ did first. His willing sacrifice redeemed us; showed us that the way back to God is a path of willing service to others.

    Christ asks us to love and care for each other not simply because the poor and sick need help, but because we all do. We are all poor in compassion; we all need healing in our hearts.

    The state would compel us by law to pay for our neighbor’s healthcare, but not to truly care for him, as Jesus asks. It shifts the moral burden away from us, first by denying us a choice, and then by distancing us from the ultimate act of service that brings practice to compassion.

    The effect of helping those in need may be good, but it is not Christian charity.

    April 1, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The article has been well written by the author and yes Sharia law is a sacred part of our text, If you want to know read the Const.itution and learn about this yourself. my grandson also posts regularly here and he will post some more about our Koran. Read the Koran.

      April 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Reality

      And from the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi)

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      The First Five of the 77 Branches:

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

      Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

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