Would Jesus support health care reform?
Jesus depicted healing a sick child.
June 28th, 2012
08:45 AM ET

Would Jesus support health care reform?

Editor’s note: This piece ran earlier this year, but we’re spotlighting it now because of Thursday’s health care decision from the Supreme Court. The story generated more than 3,000 comments, including these two:

David Nelson
It is sad that Jesus has been demoted to being a politician. Jesus plainly said "My Kingdom is not of this world." Movements to use Him to promote their agendas, whether they be on the Left or Right, are extremely suspect in the eyes of this Christian.

Jesus would SO have been a democrat. He taught us to care for the sick...not to profit off illness. I don't know how Republicans can live with themselves and call themselves Christian.

What’s your take?

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - He was a healer, a provider of universal health care, a man of compassion who treated those with preexisting medical conditions.

We don’t know what Jesus thought about the individual mandate or buying broccoli. But we do know how the New Testament describes him. The Gospels are filled with stories of Jesus physically healing the most vulnerable and despised people in his society.

References to Jesus, of course, didn’t make into the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s hearings on the constitutionality of President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act. Yet there is a moral dimension to this epic legal debate:

How should the nation help its “least of these,” an estimated 50 million Americans who can’t afford health insurance, as well as those who could go broke or die because they can’t afford medical care?

Christians are as divided about this question as others. Many cite Jesus, but come up with completely different conclusions.

Trust God or government?

Tom Prichard, a Lutheran and president of the Minnesota Family Council, said it’s ultimately about faith.  Who do we trust – God or government?

He opposes “Obamacare” because he has more faith in the market and people, than government.

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“Here Jesus’ words come to mind about not worrying and trusting God to meet our basic needs,” Prichard wrote in an online post warning about the dangers of “government run health care.” “Or if we believe it all depends on us, we’ll look to government.”

When reached at his Minnesota office,Prichard elaborated: He said the nation should empower families and individuals to make health-care decisions. If families can’t afford health insurance, private and public entities like churches and nonprofits should step in, he said.

“We all have the same goal,”Prichard said. “We want all people to have health care, even people who can’t afford it. I would argue that having the government be the primary vehicle for providing it is not going to get us to that goal. It’s going to make the situation worse.”

Carl Raschke, a religious studies professor at the University of Denver, evoked Jesus’ words about Rome and taxation.

Raschke cited the New Testament passage when Jesus, after being asked if Jews should pay taxes to Rome, said that people should "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."

Jesus was against strictly political or economic solutions because he thought they were too easy when it comes to the real challenges of human life, Raschke said.

“Writing checks won’t solve social problems,” Raschke said. “One has to get involved. If we see someone in need, we just don’t throw a dollar at him or her. You get to know them, you offer yourself, and ask what you can do for them.”

Helping the Good Samaritans of our day

There are some Christians, though, who say that charity isn’t enough to solve the nation’s health care problems.

An estimated 32 million Americans could lose health insurance if “Obamacare” is struck down, including children who can stay on their parents’ insurance until they are 26 and seniors who get help paying for their drug prescriptions. Most observers say health care costs would continue to rise.

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Some people believe the health care situation in America would be scandalous to Jesus because he was a prophet concerned about social justice.

Steven Kraftchick, a religious scholar, said Jesus comes out of the tradition of Jewish prophets who preached that the health of a society could be measured by how well they took care of “its widows and orphans,” those who had the least power.

Kraftchick said there’s a famous story in the Gospel of Mark in which Jesus heals such a person. He was the man who called himself Legion. He might have been called homeless and mentally ill. The man roamed a graveyard, so tormented that even chains could not hold him and everyone feared him, Mark wrote.

Jesus healed the man not only physically, but socially as well, according to Mark. The man returned to his community with a sense of dignity, said Kraftchick, a professor at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology in Atlanta.

“A move toward universal health care would be fitting with the prophetic traditions,” Kraftchick said. “When you read the New Testament and look at the signs of the in-breaking of the Kingdom of God, it’s always connected to being physically healed.”

Yet Marcia Pally, an authority on evangelicals, said many evangelicals are wary of government doing the healing.  Their reasons go back centuries.

Many are the descendants of people who fled Europe because of religious persecution from countries and state churches. They fought a revolution against a government in England.  And they settled a frontier, where the virtue of self-reliance was critical, said Pally, author of “The New Evangelicals: Expanding the Vision of the Common Good.”

Suspicion of government is part of their historical and religious experience, said Pally, a professor at Fordham University and New York University.

Those attitudes, though, may be changing. Pally said she spent six years traveling across America to interview evangelicals. She discovered that a new generation of evangelists now believes that certain issues are too big and complex to be addressed by charity alone.

“Some note that charity is very good at the moment of emergency relief but it doesn’t change the underlying problem  unless structures that keep people poor, sick or deny their access to health insurance are changed,” she said.

No matter what the Supreme Court decides, the legal debate will continue. If more Americans go broke or die because they do not have health insurance, more Americans may ask, what would Jesus do?

But don’t expect any easy answers from the Bible, said Raschke, the religious studies professor at the University of Denver.

“People are always looking for support from the Bible for American political positions,” Rashke said. “Would Jesus be against abortion, or would he support a woman’s right to choose? It’s almost become a standard joke in the theological world that you quote Jesus in American politics to support your political views.

“The teachings of Jesus do not fit into the views of any political party."

- CNN Writer

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  1. Chad

    People that would even ask a question like that simply have no familiarity with the Bible.

    One of the most striking aspects of Jesus' ministry was the degree to which he deliberately stayed out of politics. Jesus did not preach social reform. Jesus did not come to make bad people good, or to improve the human situation here on earth.

    Jesus came for one reason, to make dead people alive.

    What would His response be to the question of being for or against health care reform? I suspect "neither" as He dis another time:

    Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?” 14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord[e] have for his servant?” 15 The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so. Joshua 5

    June 28, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Reality

      Before extolling Joshua as some kind of hero or the NT as a moral book:

      •Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.

      •Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.)

      •Joshua: ◦Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
      ◦Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
      ◦Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
      ◦TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.

      •Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed.
      •Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
      •Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
      •Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.

      •1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
      •David: ◦2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles.

      ◦2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam.
      ◦2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.

      •1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
      •2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
      •2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
      •2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans

      •TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Old Testament/Torah.

      The New Testament has only one major atrocity, that of god committing filicide assuming you believe in this Christian mumbo jumbo. Said atrocity should be enough to vitiate all of Christianity.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • Really-O?

      "Jesus came for one reason, to make dead people alive." Ahhhhhhh! Jesus is the founder of the Umbrella Corporation! Ahhhhhhh!

      June 28, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • Chad

      @Reality "Before extolling Joshua as some kind of hero or the NT as a moral book:"

      =>you really should try reading the bible once.. You have this completely and utterly misplaced and unfounded notion that the people in the bible are included therein because they are "hero's" somehow "deserving" of God's interaction.

      Nothing, literally nothing, could be farther from the truth.

      now.. if I were you, I would completely ignore what I just said, go to infidels.org and get another cut and paste completely unrelated to what I just said..
      as always..

      June 28, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Reality can't stand that the liars, thieves, non-believers that worshiped satan were being killed.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Get Real

      HeavenSent can't stand reality.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  2. Colin

    Unless he's alive and sitting on the Supreme court, who cares?

    June 28, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • Die

      Exactly. Who cares? This is a stupid fvcking question. It is like asking "Would Zeus cut military spending?"

      June 28, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  3. Ecc. 7:17

    Though I think it's in error to say that Jesus would be either a Dem or Repub....I think he would be for the concept of the people as a unit having health care that is assisted by the majority of a nation.

    June 28, 2012 at 10:07 am |
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  5. C. Higby

    #1; Who cares; the man has been deead 2012 years.....moving on...

    May 21, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • sam stone

      More like 1,974 years.

      June 28, 2012 at 10:02 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Actually, he defeated death, ascended into Heaven, sits on the right hand of the father and will judge all on the Day of the Lord.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Get Real

      HeavenSent: "he defeated death, ascended into Heaven, sits on the right hand of the father and will judge all on the Day of the Lord."

      And your verified evidence for this is...?

      June 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • WASP

      @HS: "defeated death, sits on the right hand of his father"
      1) how can an immortal being have any concept of death?
      2) hercules completed the same task, thus zues is real according to your line of thinking.
      3) if jesus/god/holy ghost are all the same being, then how can "he" sit on the right hand of something that doesn't have "hands" wouldn't "jesus" just absorb back into the whole of "god"?

      June 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
  6. trekie70

    Jesus would have backed health care reform hands down, no doubt about it. I'll concede he may not have found the ACA to be perfect but I'm sure he would have disagreed with the failed "trickle-down economics" that Conservatives love so much.

    May 6, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
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  10. kateslate

    Jesus would SO have been a democrat. He taught us to care for the sick...not to profit off illness. I don't know how Republicans can live with themselves and call themselves Christian. It boggles the mind.

    April 9, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Ituri

      Christianity is excellent at brainwashing people into believing what they NEED to believe, which comes with heavy psychological filters to keep out what they don't WANT people to believe. I should know, I believed in that nonsense for 24 years of my life. Had a big awakening when I left home, went to college, and specialized in psychology. Its amazing how psychologically abusive religion can be on a person, on the masses, and yet its so good at perpetuating itself, which is why it doesn't d ie out for the harm it causes.

      April 14, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Ituri, so now you're a card carrying member of satan's camp because you're a whimp and want to take the easy way out in life.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • WASP


      "Ituri, so now you're a card carrying member of satan's camp because you're a whimp and want to take the easy way out in life."

      you think being an atheist is "the easy way"? hmp. we are attacked daily whenever a christian finds out or figures out we're not part of their little group.
      proof: "a card carrying member of satan's camp"
      your own words spit venom at atheists for being different and not buying into your flavor of life.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
  11. Marquice

    I'm suppose to be finishing up an essay but I'm marveled at CNN's terrible journalists.

    April 9, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
  12. David Nelson

    It is sad that Jesus has been demoted to being a politician. Jesus plainly said "My Kingdom is not of this world." Movements to use Him to promote their agendas, whether they be on the Left or Right, are extremely suspect in the eyes of this Christian.

    April 9, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • HeavenSent



      Peace be with you.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
  13. jason snowpeas

    I may understand which part exactly? Be specific!

    April 9, 2012 at 11:20 am |
  14. Monte Sahlin

    I have to laugh at the Lutheran from the Family Council who says it is a question of faith in God vs faith in government, and then says that he has more faith in the market than in government. I have new for him; God does not consider the market to be the same thing as faith in God! If the market was trustworthy on this issue we would not have 50 mllion Americans suffering with no health coverage.

    April 6, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
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  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things ..

    April 5, 2012 at 7:01 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer doesn’t not; you are so full of crap and lies. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!".

      April 5, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  16. Charles Lee Ray

    FUCK jesus!

    April 5, 2012 at 1:11 am |
  17. Michael

    Give me a break! As it is written even if God him self would stand in your face some would still not beleive. You need help, somthing is wrong with your brains! If you don't believe in God then you cannot believe in good or evil that makes you a crazy person.

    April 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • Reality


      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      (References used are available upon request.)

      April 4, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • TR6

      @Michael :” If you don't believe in God then you cannot believe in good or evil that makes you a crazy person.”

      Typical idiot Christian. As I recall the Greeks left quite a bit of literature involving the concepts of good and evil without any knowledge of your god

      June 28, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Michael, the ones that bash Jesus' truth or the others that say they don't believe Jesus are the ones who worship satan and believe him to be god. Jesus allows satan his 15 minutes of fame ... then satan and all that worship him by, creating and conducting evil in this world ... denying Jesus go to the eternal flames.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  18. Rockgod

    If there is no God why does ot matter others believe there is? What does it matter what Jesus would support healthcare reform?

    There are plenty of wonders, advances and pursuits in science, chemistry, astronomy, and even health a person who does not believe in God can do.

    Do I need to tear down another person's faith to feel better about the assurtion God is a myth?

    Do I need to laugh and hold in contempt those who worship a mythical being because I know the truth of the natural world?

    No. How can a person win them to the argument God is a myth by mocking a person's faith? Won't that cause them to not be my friend or want to work with me in the future?

    'Prayer is a joke, you have no hope, there is no one there to answer your pathetic pleas to an empty heaven.'

    To the faithful that does not win people to your side.

    How about a different tactic that is much more civil?

    'Let's spend some time together. Computers are amazing. Look at the life I live without God in it. I don't have to pray, but research the best healthcare provider incase I get sick or ways to stay as healthy as I can. I can be a good person by obeying the law as good if not better than a Christian. Look at my example of how I live a peaceful life. I work hard, love my family and friends. I have a life of peace and prosperity that is not beholden to any God.'

    Do you hear that here? Do you read anyone say that?

    No. Instead there are those that mock, say they are right and hold in contempt those that do not believe as they do.


    What do those that mock or hold in contempt of being believer have to offer, the TRUTH?

    Stephen Hawking said the Universe has no role for a Creator.

    Did you know black holes are not real? That Dark Matter and Dark Energy is a fiction created by mathematician physicists to 'explain' the Universe?

    So if 'experts' we trust to explain the Universe are wrong then who is right?

    Did the Universe begin with a big bang from a black hole (Stephen Hawking) or primeval atom (Belgian Catholic Priest) by a poppin' proton (Hawking) or God (Catholic Priest)?

    Or is the Universe infinite? That matter and energy can be neither created nor destroyed.

    We can be civil and prove the truth of the universe just as Jesus didnt' talk about healthcare reform to the Roman and Jewish governments and went about doing good illiterate magic preacher or Son of God.

    Now that is an example all of us, believers and non-believers can follow. Go about doing good because we want to, not by mandate.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      Your point is well taken but what of the other side of the argument. Non-believers are judged constantly by the faithful. We are insulted when we are told we can't have a basis for our morals since they believe objective morality is authoured by God. Threatened when we are told we will suffer for all eternity in hellfire. Whole segments of our citizens are deemed as sinners for being true to their gay nature. Children indoctrinated into supersti.tion and led to suppress science. Intolerance of intolerance is a good thing and that's what you are seeing when free thinking voices speak out against archaic dogma. I could care less what a person believes until that belief impacts someone outside their faith.
      And just to clarify a few points you brought up. Black holes do indeed exist...we even have photographic evidence of stars whipping around an invisible(thus black) massive gravitational point at the core of our own galaxy. Dark matter and dark energy are measurable observed effects of as yet unknown particles or forces. In many respects gravity itself is "dark"...we can accurately measure and define it's effects but have not yet determined it's true nature which may be revealed by the proposed by the Higgs field or boson.
      But in any case science doesn't deal in absolutes...only religions do that. Science provides reasonable approximations and models of reality that allow for refinement and correction. Nobel prizes are given to those who overturn or refine scientific models. Religion gives fixed, static, unquestionable answers that have been repeatedly demonstrated to be wrong.
      If someone states that they have been abducted by ET, or claims to have seen BigFoot, or state that they can view future events etc. then rational minded people will challenge them to provide evidence. God claims are no different. We challenge religious beliefs because the costs of believing in false things have had immeasurable dire consequences to education, social equality and human rights for many centuries.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Big bang is nonsense. If it were true, then how come Hawkins hasn't identified who lit the fuse ... as he waste millions of dollars convincing fools of his baloney. Not that you or any of the minions that follow satan's lies buy into what Hawkins is selling. You just peddle his nonsense to others as you laugh all the way to the bank.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      "If it were true, then how come Hawkins hasn't identified who lit the fuse "

      Possibly the stupidest question ever.
      Hawkins isn't looking for a "who" behind the Big Bang....the nature of nature is natural...not supernatural. That's what Hawkins is proposing. We may never know what preceded the Big Bang but nothing indicates a "god" was responcible...somehow that answer drives you absolutely nuts. Your ego demands that you have all the answers and thus you appeal to your God...which isn't an answer at all...just a means of avoiding the deplorable fact that you don't have an answer.
      Satan...like your God most likely doesn't exist so stop with the Satan worshipping nonsense. If we don't believe in God then we also don't believe in Satan.

      June 28, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
  19. Smart

    As a conservative Christian, I totally support the healthcare reform on two major premises 1). health care should be for all especially the poor, the weak, the elderly, and as a great nation, it will be shameful to see that we cannot provide health care for our citizen. Now, concerning the poor, the weak and elderly, Jesus said to the people in one of HIs parable that "when I was sick you visited me, when I was naked you cloth me, when I was in prison, you visited me and they asked when did we see you sick that we took care of you, or hungry that we fed you, or naked that we clothed you or in prison that we visited you," Jesus replied when you did it for any of these poor , elderly, weak, you did it for me." Lesson to all Christians, priests, pastors learn from the Lord Jesus Christ, if you close your eyes against these poor and needy folks, remember that you will answer to God one day. What did Jesus say to the rich man when he came to meet Jesus to ask Him how to get to the kingdom of God? Jesus told him, go and sell all that you have, use the money to feed the poor, then come back ad follow me. If indeed, you are a Christian either democrat or republican or independent, you should support any effort that the government will do to make sure that the population or her citizens are in good health. This is the right thing to do, and this what Jesus will do. Jesus the healer, give health care free to everyone. 2) The cost of health care in the nation will continue to rise if nothing is done and people will get sicker and the nation will be broke. Deficit will increase. Remember, judgment is coming one day and everyone will give account for what he or she has done to his fellow human being. Christian wake up let us stop playing political game with the name of God. Thank you very much for listening to the voice of wisdom. Let us change our way before it is too late. Conservative Christian let us take care of the poor, the needy, the elderly among us. Propagate these words, preach and drum support for the health care in our churches and synagogue, we may not like the individual mandate but let us support the health care reform. God bless you.

    CNN please publish this blog. Thank you.

    April 4, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • aminmd

      Thank you, Smart. I was beginning to lose faith in my fellow Christians in the US. I f eel that to have as our priority interest in personal well-being and prosperity instead of Jesus example of caring for the least among us is a moral weakness in our country. I could not stand before my God and say "I thought that only certain people having healthcare coverage was what you meant. Thought it was a good idea. After all, you told us to prosper and I thought draining our prosperity on those people was wrong." I can't even fathom defending such a position. I am Catholic and believe in Jesus teaching and example. If we are serious Christians, we need to find compassion for our vulnerable and care for them in His name.

      April 5, 2012 at 8:40 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Smart, there isn't a hospital in this country that turns away a patient in need of medical attention.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
  20. Michael

    Give me a break! As it is written even if God him self would stand in your face some would still not beleive. You need help, somthing is wrong with your brains!

    April 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      If God himself stood before us then the question of his existence would be answered and mostly all of us would accept and believe. It is because we find no evidence for his existence that we do not. I can't fathom how that concept is so hard understand by the likes of you. But given the monstrous nature of the God of Abraham as depicted in the Bible I certainly wouldn't desire him to be real.

      June 28, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • Get Real

      An omniscient "God" would know *precisely* what proof is acceptable to each and every one of us individually.

      An omnipotent "God" would be able to provide it.

      An all-loving "God" would do so.

      June 28, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Get Real


      Are we all equal in your "God's" eyes? Your legendary Thomas allegedly got convincing proof. I do not need to be "more blessed" than Thomas. What are we non-believers... chopped liver?

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