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July 6th, 2012
04:43 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Friday, July 6

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: AME Church likens Congress’s Holder vote to ‘evil strategies’ following Reconstruction
The country’s oldest black religious denomination is blasting Congress’s recent vote holding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt as similar to the “evil strategies employed following the Reconstruction era.” The African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church said that House members who voted last week to condemn America’s first African-American Attorney General “have been consistently and systematically disrespectful,” in a resolution passed late last week.

CNN: Hotel replaces printed Bibles with Kindles
Last year, Gideons International distributed more than 84 million printed copies of the Bible around the world to students, hospitals, members of the military and, of course, hotels, where they are a ubiquitous sight in bedside tables. Starting this month, however, the InterContinental Hotels Group is modernizing that mission at one of its hotels, replacing the paper tomes with electronic versions of the Bible loaded on Kindle e-readers. Each of the 148 rooms at the chain's Hotel Indigo in Newcastle, England, will be outfitted with a Kindle Touch with Wi-Fi. Guests can use the e-ink devices to catch up on scripture, as well as purchase and read any other books available in the Amazon Kindle store.

Tweet of the Day:

[https://twitter.com/HuffPostRelig/status/221020393400569858]

Belief on TV:

Enlightening Reads:

The New York Times: Dressing With Faith, Not Heat, in Mind
When the mercury passes 90, most New Yorkers start to wilt. Many resort to shorts and tank tops, even in the office. More than a few bankers and lawyers reach for their seersuckers. Yet amid all the casual summer wear, in some neighborhoods more than others, Hasidic men wear dark three-piece suits crowned by black hats made of rabbit fur, and Hasidic women outfit themselves in long-sleeved blouses and nearly ankle-length skirts. To visibly cooler New Yorkers, they can look painfully overdressed.

The Guardian: Chinese shrine seeks stock-market path to financial nirvana
A battle between Buddha and Mammon is shaping up in China after the managers of a renowned shrine announced plans for a multimillion-pound stock-market flotation. Mount Putuo in Zhejiang is the latest of several religious sites whose administrators have gone down this route, prompting gloomy musings about moral decline and alarm at the ever greater commercialization of Chinese culture.

Catholic News Agency: Holy See announces loss of over $18 million for 2011
The Holy See announced a loss of $18.7 million for 2011 – a sharp contrast to a surplus of $14 million the year before. “The most significant items of expenditure were those relative to personnel – who as of 31 December 2011 numbered 2,832 – and to the communications media considered as a whole,” said a June 5 Vatican statement.

The Wall Street Journal: Religion Journal: Scientology Makes Inroads in India
The announcement that Hollywood star and prominent Scientologist Tom Cruise is breaking up with his actress wife Katie Holmes has brought the controversial religion back under the media microscope. But Yatin Bajaj, the head of communications at the Scientology center in New Delhi, unsurprisingly prefers to talk about matters closer to home, and how Scientology, which is based on a belief in Thetans or spirits that control the mind, is attracting people in India.

The Huffington Post: Whites-Only Christian Conference Held In Alabama By Pastor William J. Collier's Church of God's Chosen
Pastor William J. Collier and his Church of God's Chosen are holding a Christian conference and all are invited - as long as they are white. Flyers for the conference with the title: "Annual Pastors Conference All White Christians Invited" first appeared on Monday in the town of Winfield in western Alabama, outraging many local residents.

Quote of the Day:

You have to be willing to speak your mind. I have to be able to say, ‘to me the contraceptive piece is not controversial.’ My roots, part of why I do what I do in the foundation, comes from that incredible social justice upbringing that I had, this belief that all lives–all lives–have equal value.

Melinda Gates, co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, told CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta, in response to a question about how she reconciles her Catholic faith with her support for wider access to contraceptives. See the full interview when it airs this weekend on Sanjay Gupta MD, Saturday at 4:30 pm ET and Sunday at 7:30 am ET.

Opinions of the Day:

CNN: My Take: Will there be gays in heaven? Will there be fat people?
Author: Craig Gross is the pastor and founder of XXXchurch.com and is the author of seven books. He just turned 36 and is no longer a hip 20-something pastor from California.

Join the conversation…

CNN: Mosaic in Israel shows biblical Samson
Archaeologists are reveling in the discovery of an ancient synagogue in northern Israel, a "monumental" structure with a mosaic floor depicting the biblical figure of Samson and a Hebrew inscription. The synagogue – dating to the fourth and fifth centuries in both the Talmudic and late Roman periods – is in Huqoq, an ancient Jewish village in the country's Galilee region, the Israeli Antiquities Authority said.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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  1. Nona Towry

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    July 11, 2013 at 9:45 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    July 9, 2012 at 4:31 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!. ..

      July 9, 2012 at 10:21 am |
  3. Get Real

    p.s. This new "Talmud worshipper" bent of yours is as much bunk as the rest of your stuff.

    July 7, 2012 at 2:33 am |
    • Get Real

      oops, wrong spot

      July 7, 2012 at 2:33 am |
    • HeavenSent

      I suspect that post was directed at me. First, if you don't worship the Talmud, then you were brainwashed into believing their nonsense not to believe Jesus' truth. Your choice which one belongs to you. Either way, you're not spending eternity with Jesus unless you love and follow His truth.

      If you believe that you came up with this distaste for religion on your own, you seriously need to get a grip.

      July 7, 2012 at 3:20 am |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    July 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
    • sam

      First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

      July 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • common sense needed

      Pretty sad when monty python does ALL your thinking for you.

      July 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!. ...

      July 9, 2012 at 10:22 am |
  5. This is truly pathetic to watch

    I see you morons are still being drawn into long pointless threads by the troll-teen, today's name "unknown".

    Are you all really that stupid as to play his feculent, peurile little game again and again and again?

    Troll-twirp is winning big time over you.

    July 6, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • OTOH

      @Unknown is quite a twerp, agreed; but he/she speaks the party line of multi'tudes of others who are too chicken or too inept to post... perhaps others read and learn something from the debate, though.

      July 6, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      Unknown has been taken to the woodshed every time he posts. End.

      July 6, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Unknown

      lol atheists can't handle the truth.

      July 6, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      Back again to show everyone the uselessness of your posts?

      July 6, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      It just like my favorite baseball announcers, Kruk and Kype would say, I have complete "ownage" on Unknown. He is my CNN bit.ch. Look at every thread he is involved in, he gets ran through like a ho getting trained by the football team. He isn't a troll, he is a sad joke that everyone points at and laughs.

      July 6, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
  6. Moby Schtick

    Don't debate atheists, deal with them.

    July 6, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      There is no debating atheists. They're on a mission to destroy Jesus' truth. Reminds me of the suicide bombers they so detest.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:19 am |
    • Mirosal

      You compare Atheists to suicide bombers? Are you really that delusional? You've also said in your posts that ONLY those who follow your dead guy jesus are saved, all others are automatically working for the "dark side", so to speak. Seeing as how ther are 7 billion on this planet, and 5 billion of those do NOT follow your ancient goat-herder's manual, wouldn't you say that YOU are in the minority?

      July 7, 2012 at 2:32 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, that's why Jesus said,

      Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

      Matthew 7:13

      Amen.

      July 7, 2012 at 3:11 am |
    • Mirosal

      So ... more than 5 billion are already condemned? Since it is YOUR doctrine that says "god created all of us", your god has simply thrown out over 70% of the people on Earth. And not ALL chrsitians will make it wither, like you. You ar guilty of one of your deadly sins, pride. You think YOU are right, everyone else is wrong, and you refuse to listen to another point of view. That's just arrogance on your part. As far as what your dead guy jesus said, please show empirical evidence that he even existed. And your bible is NOT proof in any way, shape, or form of the word 'proof'. It's already been show by historians that the census that Joseph and mary were going to when she was ready to drop ... NEVER took place. The romans weer very good at census anad taxes. If the census never happened, think what else wasn't right about the story.

      July 7, 2012 at 3:44 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, I'm posting Jesus' truth. He told us (by reading His truth, the Bible) that many folks won't make it to eternity. Everyone goes to heaven when they die, it's just those that didn't love and follow His truth are on the wrong side of the gulf/divide in Heaven. After the day of the Lord, comes Jesus' judgment. If you still refuse to believe His truth, you get blotted out. No eternity for you. Why would you think unbelievers please Him?

      July 7, 2012 at 4:07 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, next time you look in the mirror, you'll see one of His miracles looking back at you.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:08 am |
    • Mirosal

      I'm not a "miracle", and neither are you. It's pretty well-known how humans are made. You are actualy no different than an ancient Greek or Roman, who lived thewir lives according to what THEIR "gods" wants. Funny thing, those "gods" are no longer worshipped. Soon yours will fall by the wayside and join them in the realm of mythology. You are very weak-minded to really take at face value a 2000 year old book filled with 3000 year old stories, when there isn't one iota of proof that ANY "god" at all was behind those writings. It's been ingrained intop your head for so long that you see no other choice BUT to "obey" ... and any deity that commands (as your bible does) that you obey, worship and praise it, is not worthy of any of those things. One does not need any religion to have morals or to simply show common courtesy. And laws were written thousands of years before your bible said you do not kill or do not commit adu'ltery. Ever hear of Hammurabi's Code? Just how many times is any "god" written into the founding laws of the U.S.? Your dead jesus guy (IF he even existed), according to you, is the son of a "god" and a human mother... well golly gee can you say "Hercules"?

      July 7, 2012 at 4:25 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, as I stated earlier, if you believe that you came up with the distaste for religion on your own, you are sadly mistaken. You were taught (conditioned) to believe that all religions are man made (which they aren't, they were created by Cain and his offsprings to confuse people about Jesus' truth). It's called doubt and satan loves to create chaos. Cain is satan's son. Doubt is part of satan's chaos. Jesus knows the heart of those that taught you to doubt. So, please do not try to convince me that you thought of this on your own because that would make you a liar.

      July 7, 2012 at 5:04 am |
    • Mirosal

      I spent a decade in religious schools with your bible being force-fed into me. I know what your little book says. Logic defeats even your first book in your text, and for simple yet legitimate reasons. As far as Cain being the son of "satan"... ok let's explore this. Adam and Eve had 3 sons. Cain, Abel, and Seth. Cain kills Abel. Then Cain is banished, with a "mark" upon him. Cain also finds a wife.. just WHERE did she come from? Well, it HAD to be a sister that your book does not mention. The only humans on the planet... right? With 3 sons, one of whom is murdered, doesn't really make for a viable species does it? You try to create a species with only 2 .. good luck. No daughters are mentioned, so where excatly did Cain find his wife? I guess your "god" condones inc'est. It's the only option. Then there's the "great flood", which is a physical impossibility. Just where did the waters recede? Only one family was left... so again, the species had to start over. Guess it's back to that inc'est again, huh? Your god is one sick puppy. People talk about how dictators killed millions .. but your "god" wiped out the flora and fauna of an entire world. So who is the real tyrant?

      July 7, 2012 at 5:35 am |
    • HeavenSent

      MIrosal, Cain's wife is one of the 6th day creation when God created all people. I don't know where you went to school, but, Jesus' truth wasn't taught.

      http://biblestudysite.com/creation.htm

      July 7, 2012 at 7:59 am |
    • Mirosal

      He only created the one man.. Adam. It was after he rested that Eve came along. The garden of eden took place AFTER the 6 day creation.. where di YOU go to school.. if you did at all? Or were you home-schooled with a buy-BULL as your only textbook?

      July 7, 2012 at 8:13 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal, read the answers to your questions for yourself.

      Beginning study: http://www.biblestudysite.com/begin.htm

      Katabole: http://www.biblestudysite.com/answers12.htm#6

      Noah's flood: http://www.biblestudysite.com/answers13.htm#5

      July 7, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • great intellect my ass

      How can Mirosal read and comprehend when it can't even spell properly? Mensa my ass

      July 7, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Mirosal,

      The 'eth haa Aadam of Genesis 1:27 was Adam, then Eve. Both created on the 8th day.

      http://www.biblestudysite.com/adam.htm

      July 7, 2012 at 8:17 am |
    • Mirosal

      I am quite capable of reading and spelling. However, I do not have the ablity, as you do, to show utter stupidity and uselessness by following others around just to be a mosquito in their ear. Does your mommy know you're using her computer, or is she still in bed with your new "uncle" she picked up at the bar last night?

      July 7, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • great intellect my ass

      You claim you can spell but every post you misspell, can everyone spell bull sh it to you. Mensa my ass

      July 7, 2012 at 8:23 am |
    • Moby Schtick

      @HeavenSent

      I can't put "all christians" or "all atheists" into one neat category. Besides, plenty of Christians can debate properly–although whether they have the courage to follow the logic where it leads is another question. Also, many atheists debate properly. If you would rather generalize to the point of saying "all atheists" do anything at all, then YOU, not "all christians" aren't worth debating.

      July 7, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • Answer

      Every christian is an idiot.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Moby Schtick, Matthew 7:13 applies to most souls, no matter what their label. I'm not on this blog for the art of debate. I'm on this blog to ensure Jesus truth is heard. As a follower of Jesus' truth, I am doing my best to ensure souls choose wisely.

      As for answer ... SKIP.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
  7. Guest

    Trying to get my name as a hyperlink, but standard html coding is not working for this blog. how did you peeps do it?

    July 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Guest

      You said, "Trying to get my name as a hyperlink, but standard html coding is not working for this blog. how did you peeps do it?"
      Get a WordPress account.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Guest

      i was just curious because the source code from two users on this article show:

      Example

      i thought you could just manipulate that to your own name but i guess i was wrong. Thanks LinCA

      July 6, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • Guest

      ok nevermind

      July 6, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
  8. testingagain

    hello

    July 6, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • LinCA

      @testingagain

      You said, "hello"
      Having trouble getting your posts to show up?

      CNN uses WordPress blogs for their opinion pieces, and they use automated censoring that looks for words, or fragments of words, that are considered offensive. If your post doesn't show up, it most likely had a forbidden word in it.

      On the Belief Blog, repeat posts, even those that were previously censored and not displayed, will show a message stating that you posted it before.

      The following words or word fragments will get your post censored (list is incomplete):
            arse             as in Arsenal
            bastard
            bitch
            cock           as in cockatiel
            coon           as in cocoon
            cum             as in circumstance
            cunt
            douche
            effing
            fag
            ftw
            fuck
            homo         as in homosexual
            horny
            jackass
            jap
            jism
            kinky
            kooch
            nipple
            orgy
            pis
            porn
            poo           as in spooked
            prick
            rape         as in grape
            sex           as in homosexual
            shit
            slut
            smut
            snatch
            spic         as in despicable
            tit               as in constitution or title
            twat
            vag           as in vague
            whore
            wtf

      To circumvent the filters you can break up the words by putting an extra character in, like: consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

      July 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LinCA, your post made it through without the doctoring techniques.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Primewonk

      HeavenSent – those of us who minions of Satan are exempt from CNN's puny filters. Thus, we can write whatever the fuck we want.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Wonkers, you could have just admitted you work for them. As for the minions of satan. If you don't follow Jesus Christ, you're automatically on the opposite team. No fence sitters. That's why so many are on the wide path and not working towards the narrow gate.

      July 7, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie, Tom, no one has a mouth like yours. You tipped your hand again.

      July 7, 2012 at 1:46 am |
    • Get Real

      HeavenSent,

      So now you think that Primewonk is Tom, Tom? Just because they both know the same off-color word(s)? Wow, you must be @just sayin, and PRISM, and @truth be told, and @captain america and @Atheist Hunter then, and @Unknown, etc., you all sing the same tune.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:15 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Get Real, I've been accused of being all those you listed. All you atheists sound the same, with the exception of profanity used as a fall back. That's typical of the Talmud worshipers, not atheists that were unknowingly brought into their fold.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:23 am |
    • Get Real

      HeavenSent
      " I've been accused of being all those you listed."

      Yes... and you didn't like it either, did you? And those accusations are not true, are they? Believe it or not, I have stood up for you when that has happened. I won't let you get away with it either.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:31 am |
    • Get Real

      p.s.. This new "Talmud worshipper" bent of yours is as much bunk as the rest of your stuff.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:34 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Get real, I answered your post at the top of this page ... I'm copying it just for you.

      I suspect that post was directed at me. First, if you don't worship the Talmud, then you were brainwashed into believing their nonsense not to believe Jesus' truth. Your choice which one belongs to you. Either way, you're not spending eternity with Jesus unless you love and follow His truth.

      If you believe that you came up with this distaste for religion on your own, you seriously need to get a grip.

      July 7, 2012 at 3:34 am |
  9. Cal

    @ Robert Brown, I see you post the idea that Christians, Jews and Muslims worship the same God. Obviously only Christianity believes in Jesus, MAJOR detail. If you pray to ALLAH, does it get forwarded to the Christian God? Could you possibly elaborate on what good it does to make such a statement?

    July 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Cal

      Robert is alluding to the fact that all three religions stem from Abraham. The big friction between the religion is the HOW you worship god, not the usual WHO you worship. It's an interesting phenomenon to think about, it used to be about converting heathens because they believed in Zeus, Ra, Nature, ect.... but now people are killing each other for ostensibly believing the same thing they do.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • Cal

      It seems almost like a diplomatic move.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • Unknown

      You can't accept the truth.That's why you call me "crazy".You have no proof.at all.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Cal, I agree with most of your post ... adding that the Christians that actually pick up the Bible and read and comprehend His wisdom know what's going on. The rest are being lead to slaughter when they don't know that they need to challenge all these false preachers speaking what man wants to hear instead of what they need to hear from Jesus' truth.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • hippypoet

      wow cal...how can you not see how its all the god...with a son or not or not just the only prophet! its not exactly hidden!

      July 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Cal

      Unknown, who called you crazy?

      July 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • Cal

      Hippy, my real question was in the last sentence. I'm curious what good it does to state they are all the same God. Or I guess it's like, So what?

      July 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Cal,
      I have posted this a couple times because I’ve seen statements about “which God” as if it is a different God. I hope it does good by showing the history of the worship of God. Jews and Muslims diverge at Abraham, Jews following the line of Issac, and Muslims the line of Ishmael. They both believe Jesus was a person and in the case of Muslim even a prophet, but not Gods son. Jesus said no man comes to the father except by him, I believe that. If God has something else worked out for the others possibly someone else could explain it. I can’t.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Cal

      Fair enough Mr. Brown. I appreciate the reply and the civility.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Unknown

      everyone has faith.You hide and pretend not to have it.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • hippypoet

      it does only that which to state what you believe does – to separate yourself from the rest and to make it seem as if you have it right and they have it wrong.. in reality, all it is is the reason why each person believes is why and what they believe in....in my opinion its the aspects of each player that makes the believer believe, like jesus is forgiving, comp@ssionite, and accecpting of your faults and so should be christians, while muhammad preached the truth is his eyes..He was later called "As-Saddiq" (the Truthful) by all of those who knew of his truthful and honest nature. He always said only the truth. He was also called "Al-Amin" (the Trustworthy) due to his integrity and always upholding any trust given to him. The jews just worship the god these folks are the prophets of, althou some claim jesus is the son of that very same god and therefore better – if a son of a god can die so easily, whats the point i ask you!

      July 6, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Cal

      Unkown, who are you talking too?

      July 6, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Chuckles, I wonder if you noticed that all those that worshiped Zeus and Ra have no survivors living today.

      July 7, 2012 at 12:38 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Hippypoet. Jesus is God. God sent Himself down to earth to experience life in the flesh and to die for our sins to defeat death, which is sin. Jesus left us a blueprint (the Bible) how to be the best that He wants us to be ... so when we die, our spirits go back to Him who created all and we can dwell with Him for eternity. Jesus is the author of the Bible when he had His holy spirit inspire Holy men to scribe His truth. For the non-believer, it's basically, He walked the walk, not just talked the talk.

      July 7, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Robert Brown, you posted to Cal "I have posted this a couple times because I’ve seen statements about “which God” as if it is a different God. I hope it does good by showing the history of the worship of God. Jews and Muslims diverge at Abraham, Jews following the line of Issac, and Muslims the line of Ishmael. They both believe Jesus was a person and in the case of Muslim even a prophet, but not Gods son. Jesus said no man comes to the father except by him, I believe that. If God has something else worked out for the others possibly someone else could explain it. I can’t."

      Question: Which Jews are you referring to?

      July 7, 2012 at 2:28 am |
    • hippypoet

      heavensent – "I wonder if you noticed that all those that worshiped Zeus and Ra have no survivors living today"

      no true, they who worshipped these gods still live today, they are called greeks and egyptians...some still believe in those gods...while others believe in the same god you do.....while even some more others don't believe in anything – thats me

      July 7, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • HeavenSent

      hippypoet, I was referring to the pharoahs' bloodline not coming down through history.

      While on the topic of Egypt. The Sphinx shows the water marks of Noah's flood (which was regional, not global).

      You do know who the slaves were of the Egyptian Pharoahs that reigned and built the pyramids? Oh, that tidbit of truth was wiped out of the history books too.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
  10. Do not debate with atheists: Matt 7:6

    Every day God gives the unbeliever the opportunity to accept Him as the Savior. It is by their arrogance and willingness to believe the lies of Satan that they choose to be lost.

    July 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Huebert

      Yes stay away from the scary atheist. If you're not careful we will turn you into a newt.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      Don't debate with atheists.
      It is like a battle of wits and the believer is unarmed

      July 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Do not debate with atheists: Matt 7:6,
      Matthew 9:13, Mark 2:17, Luke 5:32, 1 Peter 3:15, & Jude 1:3

      July 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Do not debate with atheists: Matt 7:6

      @ Who invited me?

      Matt 11:11:28
      "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

      Ephesians 6: 11-12 NIV
      11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      You continue to quote from that ancient tome created by ignorant men.
      Your bible is the creation of man, your god was created in mans image.
      You are a puppet to those who created your religion.
      I can quote from lots of works of man, but instead I use my brain.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Unknown

      Science is run by men.
      Ideas are thought of by men.
      You are controlled by men.
      Major flaw for you.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      Unknown
      I see posts from you all over the place, but you don't make any sense.
      Seperate your belief from fact and maybe you can start to understand truth

      July 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • Unknown

      You follow men but you mock religion for that.

      •facepalm•

      July 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      We mock people who don't understand religion was created by men.
      Your the dipsh•t that doesn't get it.
      Id follow men before I'd follow a imaginary god.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Unknown

      Got proof?

      Oh that's right you ignore that and give the "believer" that but not yourself even tho that's what YOU believe?

      July 6, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      I don't need to prove a negative.
      No proof, no evidence, no god, no need to worship or waste time with any religion.
      Its not belief, its fact.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
    • Unknown

      You have faith..

      July 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      Your bible is proof that your religion is man made. Take any course on middle eastern history, any religious history class. All religeons are the product of past religeons. Its a fact.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Unknown

      Lol atheists become more desperate.You also have faith but mock others for it,

      Not even you know.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      I have logic and reason, both of them smack down faith, prayer, religion and god.
      Religion should not be respected, it should be mocked for its ignorance and lack of logic.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Unknown

      Pal you have no logic and reason.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      godisimaginary.com
      Don't even try to debate with unkown.
      His posts are illogical and often times the language is so poor that it is difficult what point he is trying to make , if any.
      Just ignore him
      There are none so blind as those who think they see

      July 6, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      You have no leg to stand on, two days in a row you have been easily out debated by multiple people on the board. And again your resort to childish retorts that neither prove your point of view or further your position. Anyone can look threw this thread and see you've been out witted over and over.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • Unknown

      You presented no proof at all just opinions and your childish rages.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Says the 12-year-old who can't do anything but spew nonsense.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • Unknown

      You have no proof.That's why you are so desperate.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Unknown

      I see you still do not understand the burden of proof. What exactly do you want atheists to give proof of? Or are you just saying standard weak apologetics you read from AiG or something like that?

      July 6, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • Unknown

      YOU believe it.The burden of proof is on you as well.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      The bible is full of contradictions, lies, and illogical stories and statements. I have presented your Christian bible as proof your religion is a product of men and that many of its myths are taken from previous cultures. Yet you continue with no backing for your responses.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
    • Unknown

      You don't know what the bible is for.That's why.It was never meant to be proven.You think you are so special that you can aviod what faith means.

      So yes even atheism makes you think you are special.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Can't you see Unknown, sitting and rocking repet itively, with his fingers in his ears, chanting, "The burden of proof is on you to show God doesn't exist", as if that will make it true.

      Do you always throw such temper tantrums when you don't get your cookie?

      July 6, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
    • Unknown

      when no one bows down to your demands do you always act like a spoiled child?

      July 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Unknown

      Really? *Sigh* I guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The burden of proof is not about belief, it's about actually positing something. If you claim that you KNOW that your god exists, then the burden of proof is on you. If an atheist were to claim to KNOW that your god does not exist, then they have the burden of proof. This is not the same as saying things that mock the belief, and only deals with actually claiming something.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm not claiming a all powerful diety exists, you are. I bear no burden of proof, for I am denying YOUR claim of a god existing.
      If I say giant reptiles roamed ancient earth and you deny it, I can prove it by showing scientific evidence of their existing once. Its not on you to show my evidence the never existed.
      See how that works? Its pretty elementary.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      I can see him in the home...no doubt... That is why it is better to ignore this one,
      You can debate with stupid, you can debate with ignorant.
      You can't debate with crazy

      July 6, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • Unknown

      Than godisimaginary must now prove to the world there is no God since he/she already made that claim.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, he's just a lonely little brat. No friends, stuck at home, no job.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "A spoiled child"? No, that would be you, sweetums. You're just a stupid troll.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      Unknown is pwnd. Discussion over. No more point in continuing this thread, he has been thoroughly defeated by any measure when it comes to the forum of debate.
      No evidence, no proof, no need to worship a god, in fact it's illogical.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yep. Denying you're defeated won't make it true, Unknown. Too bad, so sad.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Anybody else board with the merry go round yet?

      July 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Unknown

      lol see that is exactly what I have been pointing out since I got here.Atheists literally have nothing.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Unknown

      Which god are you talking about? There are thousands, and your false dichotomy doesn't fly here.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      Did you mean "sense"

      July 6, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      HawaiiGuest
      Awww come on...we just got him down for his nap...don't get him spun up again

      July 6, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • OTOH

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son
      \"Yeah, he's just a lonely little brat. No friends, stuck at home, no job."

      Probably so, but at least we are keeping him/her busy here and off of our doorsteps and out of politics. He/she is another fairly easy/peasy one whose fantasies are blasted out of the water without too much effort.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • Unknown

      Its typical for an atheist to use that excuse when you already know.

      i see you have no logic.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • HawaiiGuest

      @Uknown

      Perhaps if you actually stated something other than "durr that them there atheists can't prove me wrong huhuhuhu", then we could address it. However, it's a win-win for me, I either get a discussion out of this, or I get to laugh at you. So whatever you choose, I'm fine with it. I asked a question, and if you just refuse to answer it, then that's your problem.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Unknown

      Atheists refuse to give believers,all of us evidence that there is no God when they state it.

      I win.You lose.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      Do you know what a claim is in formal logic? It is always a positive, the negative is the null hypothesis and is the default position. This will be covered in your first 100 level science class.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      HawaiiGuest
      See ..I warned you...We have a rule around here when dealing with children...you wake'm, you take'm
      and by the way, he's refused his meds....

      July 6, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Unknown

      Lol its funny when an atheist does not follow what they tell others.

      First you must have actual and real scientific proof that you are 100% positive that there is no God.You must facts and evidence not opinions and faith.

      Sorry nothing supports atheism.Not even science.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Higgs bosun

      I exist. Ergo, your argument is irrelevant.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      What is the highest level science class you have attended?

      July 6, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      In other words, you don't actually want to state anything so you can continue to delude yourself into thinking that you've won something.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • Unknown

      I have no proof you are real.I cannot physically see you therefor by the standards of many atheists,you do not exist.

      Your argument is invalid.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      This is what I've been saying...you can't argue with crazy

      July 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Higgs bosun

      @Unknown

      I guess I should have you suck my massive particle dick, then, and that'll help.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      And yet there is still scientific evidence that there is another person typing in these posts. One of which is that you can see your own posts, and you could ask someone else to post something and see if it comes up, and extrapolate on that. You could also go to the address of every person here to confirm that there is a person. Besides, all claims are not created equally, and some claims require a higher standard of evidence.
      Your red herring is not only idiotic, but it is also very easily addressed.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Huebert

      Your argument is moronic.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Unknown

      You know you got nothing.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Huebert, you will be judged just like all the false preachers/teachers that spread man made lies. Jesus judges those that lead His children astray, first.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      I guess you really can't say anything of worth. I have addressed your posts multiple times, and asked question in turn. You refuse to answer, or address any point, and continue to act worse than my 3 year old.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @HeavenSent

      Yes continue to show your ack of humanity. Keep showing everyone the harm religion does to the brain. If you have a family, then I really feel incredibly sorry for them having to deal with your hate and idiocy everyday.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Unknown

      yet you refuse to admit you have zero evidence?

      July 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Jack

      I'm posting on the inernet that I'm a Harvard professor married to a playmate, and I have a flying car. By atheist standards, that's a load of BS.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      I haven't made any claims. I haven't even said whether I believe in god or not. Why would I need evidence for something I haven't even stated my position on?

      July 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Huebert

      @HS

      Trying to threaten me with god's judgement is like trying to threaten me with the Easter Bunny's judgement.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Unknown

      why must I?

      July 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Huebert

      HEY, all should beware the Easter Bunnys floppy ears of doom, for each hides a rocket launcher.
      We cannot forget about his eggs filled with C-4, nor can we ignore his big feet of clawing death.
      And his BIG, POINTY, TEETH.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      If you posit the existence of a god, or the authority of the bible, or anything like that, then you need to provide the evidence if you expect anyone else to accept that.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Matthew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to go down on him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: he shall not c u m on thee.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Hawiiguest

      I was bitten by those big pointy teeth once. It was only a flesh wound, and if the little b@$tar.d ever gets back here I'll bite his ankles off.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Unknown

      Never did.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Jack

      Just like Peter, Unknown has denied Christ to try to save face.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      Then why use idiotic and fallacious arguments? If you have avoided making any claim, then you obviously know how the burden of proof works. Are you really just trying to be an idiotic troll?

      July 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Unknown

      nope because I already know you literally got nothing so I don't need to.

      July 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      Man you cannot say anything else can you? Seriously, what claim are you assuming that I have no evidence of? I have made no claim, and neither have you. At this pont, your just showing how stupid you really are.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      No, it is you who has nothing. Nothing is what atheist are saying is out their. We accept that their is nothing. You insist that their is something and until you produce this something you are simply a troll sitting in your parents basement until your McDonald's shift starts.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • Unknown

      Nothing that gives any person a reason(evidence) that supports atheism.

      you lost.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      What the hell are you talking about? Now you're just not even making any sense.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Earlier today Unknown posted, "I like studying other religions although I am a Christian." He stated He is a Christian, but yet claims he doesn't claim the Christian God exists, and therefore is exempt from the burden of proof. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      hawaiiguest
      Huebert
      Why do you continue to try to fight with the unknown. It is as einsteins definition of insanity.
      You will gain no traction with this one. He is already lost

      July 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Unknown

      Nothing on this planet supports atheism.No evidence not even science supports it.Agnostics admit "I don't know" in atheism you really don't.You deny the existence of God but for many it becomes a belief and a faith

      You lost yet again.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      I lost your train of thought, if that is what you mean.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      and it will also HAVE to have the last word

      July 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      You don't even know what atheism means! LOL. Oh that is just rich. Tell you what, when you figure out the difference between belief and knwoledge, then come back.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • Huebert

      @who invited me

      I'm at work and their are no customers. I don't have much else to do.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      Huebert
      Well ....OK
      but don't keep him up too late, he has shock therapy in the morning.
      It doesn't really help but it is fun to watch.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Who invited me?

      I'll bring him back in time, I wouldn't want to miss the fireworks.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • sam

      'Unknown' posts like a bot of some kind. A really half-assed, incomplete AI program.

      July 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hawaiiguest, you posted at 3:08 on the 6th "@HeavenSent, Yes continue to show your ack of humanity. Keep showing everyone the harm religion does to the brain. If you have a family, then I really feel incredibly sorry for them having to deal with your hate and idiocy everyday.

      Answer: Such as the post from the phony heavensent, 8 post below this one you wrote me?

      If you want to debate one of my posts, copy and past it with the date and time, plus, the article you found it on. Other than that ... if you don't know my handle has been hijacked. You're more foolish than I believed.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:03 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Who invited me?, you posted "You continue to quote from that ancient tome created by ignorant men.
      Your bible is the creation of man, your god was created in mans image.
      You are a puppet to those who created your religion.
      I can quote from lots of works of man, but instead I use my brain."

      Answer: You were either conditioned by teachers/professors who abide in the Talmud, or you abide in it yourself. Either way, all you atheists are the parrots ... ad nauseam.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:11 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Huebert, you posted "@HS, Trying to threaten me with god's judgement is like trying to threaten me with the Easter Bunny's judgement."

      Answer: I'm not threatening you. I'm posting Jesus' truth. You're the one that puts yourself in peril.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:21 am |
    • HeavenSent

      When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

      Matthew 13:19

      Amen.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  11. White on Rice

    The Sri Ram Sene was one of the most active groups that launched a series of attacks on Christians and their property in and around Mangalore city in the southern state of Karnataka, India in August-September 2008, according to a report, “The Ugly Face of Sangh Parivar,” published by the People’s Union of Civil Liberties (PUCL), in March 2009. In Jabalpur city in the central state of Madhya Pradesh, suspected extremists from the Abhinav Bharat attacked the Rhema Gospel Church on Sept. 28, according to the Global Council of Indian Christians. They had earlier attacked Pastor Sam Oommen and his family in the same city on Aug. 3.

    July 6, 2012 at 11:35 am |
  12. Unknown

    Do atheists really want to believe? Their actions show they do yet..they still cling to religious articles..

    July 6, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      I suppose it depends on the atheist.

      July 6, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • godisimaginary.com

      More un truths from Unknown, who know thinks he speaks for atheists and knows what they think. You sure seem to know soooo much about atheists.
      Give it up. We don't believe, we know. No proof, no need to believe.

      July 6, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Huebert

      I find the fact that some people can honestly believe what is obviously a fantasy endlessly intriguing. I'm here to learn how Christians think and act when they are anonymous.

      July 6, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • just sayin

      That's a clown question bro, what are you trying to "prove"?

      July 6, 2012 at 11:15 am |
    • Unknown

      You "know" what?

      You know nothing because you relay on faith.Faith is not evidence according to atheists.

      Here to learn? As your comments have shown, you've come to beat down Christians with insults and childish arguments.

      What do you got to prove? Being an atheist makes you special or something? More better?

      Please you are human like us..you have faith like every other human.You hate it when the "religious" claim to know but you do also without any proof?

      You can't admit it so all this..is just a game.

      July 6, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Huebert

      No. You have shown me a great deal about how Christians respond to challenges. If you remember a few weeks back I addressed you with respect and you attempted to insight an argument, as you are doing now. You have also shown an astounding deficit in either critical thinking skills or reading comprehensions, because the burden of proof has been explained to you countless times and you still don't understand it. Though you are right about one thing...this all just a game.

      July 6, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Unknown, if you could only do one, would you rather win a public debate or save someone's soul?

      July 6, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Unknown

      I personally cannot save anyone's own soul.That choice is up to them not me.I'm not like the atheists who get some sick twisted pleasure in winning some stupid debate.

      And huebert..If atheists are so sure that they are correct why do they demand evidence? If person wouldn't do that..unless they were insecure.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      Christians are the ones as.serting the existence of a supernatural deity. I have never seen a supernatural deity before so if you want me to believe in yours provide evidence for it and I will. Otherwise I will dismiss your deity the same way both of us dismiss Thor, Shiva, Zeus and Mars, the god not the planet.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      You either engage in behavior that brings people closer to God ro drive them away. Don't you think God will hold someone accountable for behaving in a manner that drives people further from God. You asked if athiests want to believe. If any do, your behavior is not doing them any favors. I recently had 2 Mormon missionaries come to my house. And I listened to them because they treated me with respect. I told them I was a non-believer and they did not immediatly state insulting generalities. But I suppose since other's salvation is not your problem, missionaries are pointless right? I mean YOU get an eternity of bliss, screw everyone else.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Unknown

      I have my own reasons and none follow the typical atheistic crap such as "You believe because of your parents".Actually I don't believe because of my parents,church,friends,society etc.

      You have to find your own reason to believe because if you don't this Christian walk won't ever ever make any sense to you.You say you care only for Christianity because "they impose their laws into secular law" but I think deep down you are lying to yourself.Islam has manifested itself into many many nations with their own law,I don't see you ever demand evidence of Allah heck even what their religion states.You say you demand evidence only when religions impose their laws into secular law but..I think you pick Christianity and single it out from all others..well I don't think I need to explain.

      The demanding of one God part only proves more and more why you do that.Its not the excuses you rant about no..as your comments have shown,its for a different reasons.

      Other religions state their god or gods exist but oh since they don't impose "their laws" you don't care?!

      What a bunch of crap!

      July 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • Huebert

      Unknown

      If you were Muslim I would ask you for evidence of Allah, but you are christian.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • Unknown

      Oh but I never hear comments from atheists demanding evidence of any other god or gods.Actually interesting enough,most atheists joke around with "disprove Zeus"..

      Why do you single out one religion but leave all others out?

      Your excuses aren't even logical.Why not demand evidence of Lord Xenu? I mean you treat all religions the same but your actions and comments show you do not.

      You single out one but make up excuses you don't? Your comments show you do.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      I don't see Christians tell Muslims to prove the Christian God doesn't exist. Christians don't tell jews to prove Jesus didn't die on the cross. You ask atheists to prove YOUR God does not exist, but don't ask other religions to do the same. What Hypocrisy 😉

      July 6, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • Huebert

      If you were a Scientologist I would ask you for evidence of Lord Xenu, but you're a christian.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Know What

      Unknown, "I think you pick Christianity and single it out from all others"

      This blog is U.S. based, and Christianity is the most popular religion here. I have been reading this blog for quite some time and there have been several articles on Muslim issues and Hebrew issues. Very few adherents of those religions post, but if/when they do, they are asked for the same evidence that you are asked for. You should see all of the Mormon-based articles we have had where Christians go after them for not being "true" Christians.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Hey guys,
      Don’t you think Jews, Muslims, & Christians are worshiping the same God?

      July 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Unknown

      Because I do not care as much as atheists do.I like studying other religions although I am a Christian.Most won't because it may convert them but I have not.

      I don't even care what people believe anymore,its their life and in the end the decision rests in their own hands just like mine is with me.

      Atheists take it another way.You demand to be proven right but also proven wrong.They don't demand to be proven right or wrong becase we accept we cannot.YOU won't accept both for what you believe and hold true to your own heart.

      You aren't willingly to do anything by yourself,and asking questions or knowing God exists is not what I'm talking about.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Huebert

      "Atheists take it another way.You demand to be proven right but also proven wrong.They don't demand to be proven right or wrong becase we accept we cannot.YOU won't accept both for what you believe and hold true to your own heart."

      Did that make since when you wrote it?

      July 6, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Unknown

      you mean "sense" not "since"?

      July 6, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • *

      *sense

      July 6, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Huebert

      Thank you, I can't spell for the life of me.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Unknown

      Why must you demand if you know in your own heart no gods exist at all? YOU believe so why must you mock and knock others done? What has any of these people do to you? has any of these posters hurt you in any way? Why must you treat them like crap if they have done nothing wrong at all?

      Its a game..so you stick around after the fact that you "know" no gods exist or that God exists..for what? Pleasure? What it is?

      You do it because when a person cannot answer questions or give evidence,it helps feed your delusion and faith more.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • Huebert

      Actually no it's for pleasure, well amusement would be more accurate. I'm at work and CNN is one of the few sites that is not blocked so this is my main form of entertainment from 9 to 5.

      July 6, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Unknown

      Wow..according to atheist logic,that is not logical.Its childish.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Huebert

      Please tell me how amusing my self is childish.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Unknown

      Your posts prove otherwise.Its not for entertainment.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Huebert

      It may not be entertainment to you. Who are you to say what entertains me?

      July 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • Unknown

      Your own comments?

      July 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Huebert

      My own comments say that this is for entertainment.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • Unknown

      and pleasure.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • Huebert

      I used entertainment, pleasure, and amusement as interchangeable synonyms all in one comment. Sorry for confusing you. I'll set the record straight. I am on belief blog for my own amusement. Amusement best captures my feelings toward this blog. Mildly pleasurable but with no real attachment. a dalliance if you will. I'm off to lunch see you in an hour.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Unknown

      That's a sad life..nothing logical about yours.

      You lie.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • godisimaginary.com

      We only ask for proof of your god or evidence to validate your religious claims when Christians try to force your religion on others via government or any other vehicle.
      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
      What a sad, delusional life you lead. There is nothing logical about worshiping a god. Religion should not be respected, it should be mocked for its lack of logic.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Robert Brown, only Christians that read the Bible worship Jesus Christ. All others worship the ant-christ meaning instead of Christ ... aka Lucifer.

      July 6, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Uknown
      You keep repeating "atheists have faith" like a mantra.
      Atheism is a negative statement that says only what one does NOT believe.
      It does not imply any behaviours, morals, or characteristics whatsoever.
      A = Lack of Theism = belief in gods.

      Is being asymptomatic a sign of disease?
      To what political party to apolitical people belong?
      Is being asymmetrical a kind of symmetry?

      July 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • Unknown

      Ahhhh yes.But you need actual proof and you don't have any.

      Total logic fail.

      July 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Huebert

      @unknown

      What would proof of nothing consist of?

      July 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Unknown

      Are you really that useless where you completely ignore everything that contradicts your little bubble of idiocy?

      July 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tell the truth (LOL) Hawaiiguest. Either you abide in the Talmud, or had teachers/professors that do/did? What? Do you seriously believe that the doubt in Jesus Christ just came to you in a vision? Talk about being a parrot.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:16 am |
  13. Jack

    Dibs.

    July 6, 2012 at 10:17 am |
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