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July 6th, 2012
06:30 AM ET

Melinda Gates defends financing contraception in light of her Catholicism

Editor's note: Watch more of Dr. Sanjay Gupta's interview with Melinda Gates on Sanjay Gupta MD on Saturday at 4:30 p.m. ET and Sunday at 7:30 a.m. ET.

(CNN) - Responding to simmering controversy among Catholic bloggers about her new birth control program, Melinda Gates - a practicing Catholic - said she will not shrink from her role as an advocate for poor women.

"Part of what I do with the (Gates) Foundation comes form that incredible social justice I had growing up and belief that all lives, all lives are of equal value," said Gates during a recent interview with CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

About the flak over her Catholicism she said: "We're not going to agree about everything, but that's OK."

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- CNN's Laura Koran

Filed under: Catholic Church • Christianity • Health care

soundoff (334 Responses)
  1. SoldierOfConscience

    Four simple steps to bring back m0ral1ty;

    S1. ban @b0rt1on

    July 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      S2. ban c0ntrac3pt1on

      July 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      S3. remove no fault d1v0rce, only for adultery/abuse

      July 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Useless suggestions that only serves an attempt to legislate your religion.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      S4. M@rr1ag3 only for 0ppos1te g3nder people (and corollary : all laws protecting d3v1ant repealed)

      July 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      The family unit will take care of itself and society.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Your opinion nothing more, nothing less. Which leads us back to your points are relevant.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Judaism, thank you for admitting that my points are relevant

      July 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
  2. SoldierOfConscience

    human life begins at conception. I can prove it.

    Please answer true or false only

    the 2 cell embryo are alive?
    the 2 cell embryo embryo is not human?

    If its TRUE to both, it is a HUMAN LIFE.

    July 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Before somebody comes along and says the same thing about a cancer cell, the big caveat is that if its a part of the body that is hurting you, then it should go. so

      TRUE OR FALSE

      2 cell embryo is hurting the mother

      July 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
  3. SoldierOfConscience

    Any w0m@n who has s3x could get pregnant. There was nothing she could do to reduce the risk, other than 'pull and pray'. This enforced morality in society. With c0ntrac3ption, m0nr1ng @fter pill, @b0rt1i0n, etc.. (all just degrees of difference, same concept), w0m3n became s3x 0bjects. Heck some w0m3n extolled themselves as s3x 0bjects (marilyn monroe anyone?). All morality is destroyed. This is the straight line connection

    July 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Thats nice little boy scout but people are free to do as they wish. Your morals ahve no bearing on other people's lives

      July 10, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      How about you focus more on pinning your Eagle Scout Badge on your uniform than what other women do.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      There were also abortions. They were illegal at the time, but women will do anything when desperate. And women died as a result.

      Just collateral damage, right, Soldering Iron?

      July 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      The statistics show that when women can control the size of their families, their families, communities, and even entire nations are better off economically. Look it up, dunderhead.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Simple steps to bring back m0ral1ty;

      1. ban @b0rt1on
      2. ban c0ntrac3pt1on
      3. remove no fault d1v0rce, only for adultery and abuse.

      You will see how the family unit will take care of itself and society will blossom

      July 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      I have an analogy for you, Tom, for the 'women dying' argument.

      too many people dying from drug overd0ses. So the govt takes it upon itself to build 'drug centers' where people can go and get a high. they are carefully watched, so they dont get overd0se. Anything to save a life. desperate addicts will do anything so crime also comes down.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why don't you write Mrs. Gates, President Obama, and the Great Pumpkin and tell them to get right on that?

      July 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Soldering iron, you don't have any analogies. You don't even know what they are. You're a stupid troll. Sage nailed it when she smacked you upside the head in the other thread. Now you think you'll come here and get traction? Don't p!ss on my leg and try to tell me it's raining.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Now get lost. I hear yer mother callin ya.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Nobody is able to give me a counterpoint to the s3x 0bject argument. Tom (and 'Sage' if she gets here) just use abuse as a form of argument.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Your point must be relevant first

      July 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      when you cannot refute, then attack from the side. relevant indeed. Bah!

      July 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Judaism comes from the Sumerian Religion

      Sure, your perception...enjoy your victory. lol

      July 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
  4. catholic engineer

    Generations of males will laud Melinda Gates on high. With the contraceptives provided by her, men will be able to freely use women as secks objects even more. THis will be accompanied by a tide of contempt for women like we have in the west. Pope Paul 6 predicted this.

    July 10, 2012 at 8:27 am |
    • midwest rail

      Men who are so inclined will use women regardless of the availability of contraceptives. Claiming correlation or causation is nonsense.

      July 10, 2012 at 8:33 am |
    • SoldierOfConscience

      Amen. The church is right to insist that anyone who breaks the link between s3x and possible pregnancy is immoral.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Why discuss Catholic issues, they are going to burn, burn, burn for eternity

      Amen.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm |
  5. gerald

    Melinda Gates is about preventing women from having children who can't afford them. But apparently she doesn't think much about those who can afford them having many either since she certainly has the money to bring more children in to the world who would recieve the greatest gift of an eternity with God. I thik there are maybe one or two gates children. Melinda Gates is a fool.

    July 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • Polergiest

      This is too stupid to be a real opinion.

      July 10, 2012 at 8:04 am |
  6. jack h

    no more 20 ne grows or so as ians eating out of one bowl of beans or rice. if you cannot feed, clothe, and put a roof over their heads on your own dime, they you should not be allowed to have them born.

    July 10, 2012 at 2:26 am |
  7. catholic engineer

    My son was sworn into the USMC under a large sign proclaiming that the max penalty for desertion was death. The US executed Sacco and Vanzetti. The US executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
    The catholic church must have no end of patience. If not, Gates, Pelosi, Biden, Sibelius and other "I'll have it my way!" Cathollics would have been tossed out long ago. As the church's enemies love point out, she is massively wealthy. So any Gates contribution to the church would be merely chump change. The church can afford Melinda's absence.

    July 9, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Phred PhlintSchtone

      The military has not executed any prisoners since 1961, and no deserters since 1945 (the only such execution of WWII). Not enforced.

      The executions of the Rosenbergs and Sacco and Vanzetti are notorious for being major miscarriages of justice (Ethel Rosenberg and Vanzetti were almost certainly innocent.

      None of which has anything at all to do with the Catholics you list. It is fundamentally sick and totalitarian for a religion to demand total political obedience to a single individul who is not even a citizen of the affected country. That is the behavior of evil institutions.

      July 9, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • chief

      another catholic elitest comment, they are right, they, all else can have fun in hell, i guess instead of melinda gates you'd rather defend priests that abuse kids......

      July 10, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • gerald

      Political obedience? You have got to be joking. Catholicism held that contraception was a grave evil long before it became a political issue. This is no secret and never has been. It is a signature of Catholicism that it is against contraception long before the state started promoting it. So while it may be a political issue, it is a moral issue and those whom are Catolics have an obligation to stand up for what is Catholic. If they don't it is certainly within the Churches rights to criticize them and kick them out if it sees fit.

      July 10, 2012 at 7:55 am |
  8. NOShaalom4U

    What good is it to have billions of babies born and have them suffer from disease and hunger because you were blinded ?

    July 9, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  9. slickteigkcmo

    God love you Melinda. I too am Catholic and believe God doesn't care if we support "prevention", "birth Control". I do believe aborting a baby is wrong, murder actually, so much better to prevent, plan out things as God gave us brains to plan,, use, and don't have babies if it would be a hardship for the baby, yourself and partner, husband etc. To prevent is to show you can think, think of others, consider yourself , what you can handle at the time. I've worked for social services and many women are 1) kind of not too smart and need birth control to help them not have babies....2) overwhelmed and don't want more children 3) I had moms who said they "couldn't get their tubes tied as the drs said they were too young, wth?! 4) just can't think as they're so stressed , sooooo they need birth control to help , many are very poor and uneducated, so again , to prevent a killing or baby brought into a terrible situation, we must have birth control. God love you Melinda and all who see this as the best alternative to a child, mom, etc suffering as they're brought into this world or to have a baby killed in an abortion. Yeah to women thinking for themselves about prevention, yes to prevention if needed, wanted, God is loving and he loves us and wouldn't want a baby to come into a life of suffering..... we must have birth control !!!!! God will love and bless us for considering what is best for all concerned , that is being responsible as any father would want us to be . Not every couple wants or should even have children..... children are gifts from God that should only be brought here when they can be loved and appreciated, I'm sure that is what God thinks about his gifts. No man can understand what an unplanned pregnancy is like, they never can or will , women must face this and live with their decisions, all men of churches etc need to bow out and let the women handle this decision , it is only between them and God and their partners.But mainly it is the womans decision as she is the one who will or will not have a child, men of the world, u need to back off 🙂

    July 9, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
  10. PumpNDump

    When the "team jesus" religious mouthbreathers KILL and main abortion providers such as Dr. George Tiller, Dr. Barnett Slepian, Dr. David Gunn, Dr. John Britton, James Barrett, Shannon Lowney, Lee Ann Nichols, Robert Sanderson, June Barret, Dr. David Gandell, Emily Lyons and scores of others they're terrorists. Roe vs. Wade is the law, the abortion issue has been decided, get over it. When you harass & threaten people at their place of work and harass those going there, you've earned the consequences. I escort women to abortion clinics. When someone gets too close, they get knocked down. If they touch a women, they get hurt. It's that simple. You want to interfere with others who don't share your crazy "beliefs" in myths and ignorance, then it's going to cost you. Your "Freedom of Religion" doesn't give you the right to inflict it on others, or didn't you get the memo?

    July 9, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      Hat's off to you, Pump. Those women probably don't have the strength or wisdom to be mothers anyway. You've done a "potential" human a favor. How many of those women are carrying your kid?

      July 9, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @PrimeNumber

      Talk about a condescending pile of sh.it. Your ad hominems are merely to cover the fact that you have nothing of real substance to say to Pump's post.

      July 9, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • PrimeNumber

      @Hawaii A reply to Pump's post doesn't require substance.

      July 9, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @PrimeNumber

      I'm sure saying that helps keep your self-image of not being a useless poster with nothing intelligent to say.

      July 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    July 9, 2012 at 4:30 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!. ..

      July 9, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Polergiest

      I see this same sequence of comments everywhere. The same weak statement from 'not healthy' followed by the same Jesus's "LIAR!#rant" blurb. Fail.

      July 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
  12. Shimon Cleopas

    ReInventing Vatican

    1.Who still needs Vatican when a scientist can present the two fish, God and Satan, in digital crystal-clear LED HD quality.

    2.There is a catch: TRUTH (Jesus Christ) must undergo A FAIR SCIENTIFIC RETRIAL by the Science and Technology Committee, under the Lady of Freedom, in Capitol Hill, Washington, DC any day not necessarily on December 21, 2012.

    3.The SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that Jesus Christ is indeed God obliterates Satan, ends The Great Tribulation and reinvents Vatican, Jerusalem, Tora Bora and the White House.

    4.Jesus once said to Peter: “Get behind me Satan. You are an obstacle to me.” Note Jesus use of the word “behind” which is the opposite of “ante” or “anti” as in Antichrist.

    5.The tangible evidence that Jesus Christ is indeed God eliminates Vatican, the obstacle to the Second Coming.

    July 8, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  13. AGuest9

    Because we all know that NO catholic woman is on birth control! (Keep fooling yourselves, and lying to others.)

    July 8, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  14. HeavenSent

    Bucky rejects the truth in Matthew 26:59.

    July 8, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Answer

      It's simply this "bucky rejects your crap."

      July 8, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Did you hear the one about the Canadian that minded its own business?

      July 9, 2012 at 4:23 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      You won't they can't help themselves from butting into other peoples business like as if someone would care what they have to say.

      July 9, 2012 at 4:25 am |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    July 8, 2012 at 8:15 am |
    • Jesus

      ~Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!. ..

      July 9, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Polergiest

      I see this same sequence of comments everywhere. The same weak statement from 'not healthy' followed by the same Jesus's "LIAR!#rant" blurb. Propaganda, fail.

      July 10, 2012 at 8:02 am |
  16. howart Dao

    Melinda and Bills know that their 50 billion of charity can only spread so far. Without family planning and population control, no amount of resources will be enough for the billions on this Earth.

    July 7, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • shalom2U

      O Ye of little Faith...God can do anything.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      god is a figment of the imagination. he can do as much as the tooth fairy.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • Unknown

      non-belief does not make it go away.

      Non-belief that a R.A.P.E happened doesn't make it go away.

      Atheists are delusional.

      July 7, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • lilly

      What the heck has this imaginary god done??? nothing that is. Why? Does not exist. All religions are are cults.

      July 8, 2012 at 1:02 am |
    • Unknown

      what have humans done? What have YOU done?

      July 8, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Unknown. of all the good in the world, and all of the bad.. humans did it 100% As all the gods of history are just creations of the very active human mind, it stands they have none nothing..i

      July 8, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What I do is support the actions of people like the Gates'.

      What do you do, Un? Besides troll?

      July 8, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      OTOH, the comparison of God to r.ape does seem apt.

      July 9, 2012 at 10:25 am |
  17. shalom2U

    Why doesn't Melinda join another Religion? By providing contraception she is causing others to commit what the Church teaches is a grave sin. That can cause a person to spend Eternity in Hell (not necessarily will because no Sin is greater than God's mercy) . Eternity is a long time. She is causing great harm to her soul and to others with her actions. When someone publicly does something that goes against Church Teaching and still claims to be a practicing Catholic, his or Bishop should counsel him or her–excommunication should be a possibility. Every ex-communication is given with the hope it will be lifted because of repentance.

    July 7, 2012 at 10:01 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Why don't you learn your own Catechism. Grave sin has three components. Obviously the three are not met here. Why do raving atheists have to teach Catechism to Catholics ?

      July 7, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      BTW, thanks for refuting your god. If spacetime is a dimension in which your god exists, ("eternity is a long time"), then she could not have been the creator of the dimensions required for her own existence. Welcome to atheism.

      July 7, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • howart Dao

      Do you really think the Churd can really ex-communicate people with billions of $ ??? 🙂

      July 7, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • shalom2U

      llɐq ʎʞɔnq
      "Why don't you learn your own Catechism. Grave sin has three components. Obviously the three are not met here. Why do raving atheists have to teach Catechism to Catholics ?"

      I specifically did not say mortal sin because of the catechism.

      From paragraph 1857 of the catechism: For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: “Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.” From paragraph 2370: In contrast, “every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible” is intrinsically evil. So contraception is a grave matter. A practicing Catholic should know it is a grave matter. By paying for a "birth control program" she is clearly funding it with her full knowledge and delibrate consent. I would say the odds are very good she is committing a mortal sin, but that really is known only to her and God.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • shalom2U

      llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      If spacetime is a dimension in which your god exists,

      God doesn't exist in a space time dimension; humans do. I'm still a Christian.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • shalom2U

      howart Dao

      "Do you really think the Churd can really ex-communicate people with billions of $ ???"

      She has many times before...Henry VIII is just one example. It is the type of sin that you commit that can cause you ex-communication and the size of your pocketbook won't matter.

      July 7, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • Nii

      As an Anglican I will kindly allow u the courtesy of withdrawing that Henry VIII was excommunicated for sin! He left the Roman Catholic Church voluntarily! Any excommunication was useless! In that wise Martin Luther wasn't excommunicated either! Never make such a careless statement again!

      July 7, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • Nii

      It was Henry V of Germany, Holy Roman Emperor, who was excommunicated by a Pope and then forced to do penance! Wrong Henry! Read History well! Another English King did penance for Killing St Thomas Becket!

      July 7, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
    • shalom2U

      Nii

      In July 1533, Pope Clement VII threatened English King Henry VIII with ex-communication if he did not resume his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. The date that the pope gave to Henry was September of that year. For the English at the royal court, the decree all but marked the formal excommunication of the king as it was clear that Henry had no intention of abandoning his schemes with Anne Boleyn. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer, subsequently annulled the marriage in May 1533. The pope still did not issue the bull as he remained hopeful of an eventual solution to the problem and that Henry might at last come to his senses. This, of course, never happened, and Clement died the next year in September. It is a testament to the patience of the Holy See that Pope Paul III, pontiff since October 1534, waited until 1538 to issue the bull. Significantly, he did not promulgate a new one but merely issued the longstanding one first drafted by Clement in 1533. The excommunication was issued because of Henry’s demolition of the Church in England and his determination to execute anyone who stood in his way.

      July 7, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • shalom2U

      Nii

      On January 3, 1521, Pope Leo X excommunicated Luther. Three months later, Luther was called to defend his beliefs before Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms, where he was famously defiant. For his refusal to recant his writings, the emperor declared him an outlaw and a heretic. Luther was protected by powerful German princes, however, and by his death in 1546, the course of Western civilization had been significantly altered.

      July 8, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      shalom2U Well luckily for most they think for themselves and understand that the sins etc are human generated controls. The CC is becoming less influential as time move ahead ..education is your enemy, as it is with all religions. I hope that you rise above the depression laden mandate that the CC wants, and apparently has succeeded, you to believe.

      July 8, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Well, shalom, then the Pope would have to excommunicate 90% of Catholics in the US, since statistics show that's how many of them have used contraceptives during some point in their lives.

      July 8, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  18. Reality

    From p.1:

    As recommended previously by blogger Bo: Please print out and give a copy to all teenagers, young adults and parents–

    What Mrs. Gates should have said:

    – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

    Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill ( 8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

    Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

    The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":

    – (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
    .-(Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)

    Followed by:
    One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
    Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
    The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
    Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
    IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

    Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).

    July 7, 2012 at 8:07 am |
    • .....

      Bull sh it alert avoid all reality drivel life is too precious to waste reading its crap.

      July 7, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    July 7, 2012 at 6:04 am |
    • Jesus

      .Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!. ..

      July 9, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • Polergiest

      I see this same sequence of comments everywhere. The same weak statement from 'not healthy' followed by the same Jesus's "LIAR!#rant" blurb. Planted propaganda, fail.

      July 10, 2012 at 8:01 am |
  20. Popeferatu Pervprotector XVI

    In the good old days, we would have burned her at the stake for heresy.

    July 7, 2012 at 3:10 am |
    • truth be told

      you would have, the true Christians would not.

      July 7, 2012 at 6:05 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Those who call themselves "true christians" need to learn about the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. There are 33,000 sects of Christians. They are all "true" Christians, (in their own minds).

      July 7, 2012 at 9:18 am |
    • Moby Schtick

      It seems to me that "true christians" would rather die, then kill. Doesn't Jesus' behavior at the hands of his Sanhedrin and the Romans verify as much? Of course, there's no christians who can perform the works that Jesus said believers would exhibit, so it's a moot point, isn't it?

      July 7, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      You bought the gospel propaganda apparently. Yeshua was executed because there was a standing order in the Pax Romana to execute any trouble makers. He was a trouble maker. He caused a riot in the temple environs, in a city based totally on a temple economy. He did not go willingly to death. Even the gospels say he was trying to avoid the authorities.

      July 7, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Moby Schtick

      @bucky

      No, I'm talking about from the perspective of christian belief. As to how many "Yeshua"'s or "prophets" in Palestine were killed by whom and for what purposes, I have no idea and neither do you.

      July 7, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • no one gives a sh it

      About your fallacy bucky why don't you shove fallacy up your ass.

      July 7, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Actually historians know quite a lot about all the apocalyptics, and about some of them who were killed.

      And as far as what goes up Bucky's butt ... that's up to Bucky. But thanks for your (rather odd) interest in the subject.

      July 7, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      there is no God of the old days,.. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow,.. hes still a hateful evil jealous tyrant

      July 7, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Nii

      The True Scotsman fallacy does not apply only to the so-called 33000 sects of Christianity but to Atheist hostility towards believers in a god also!

      July 7, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • Nii

      Also Bucky where did you get that figure? It is a very excessive estimate!

      July 7, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • Unknown

      Many atheists don't consider Stalin or Mao "true Atheists" even tho they themselves were atheist.They murdered their own people..Stalin killed around 20 million under his rule.

      No atheist will ever consider them "atheist"..see how weak some atheists are with facing the truth?

      July 7, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bucky has no shame as he loves being a liar.

      Matthew 23:1-39

      July 8, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Bucky refuses to read Matthew 26:59

      July 8, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • Mirosal

      Apparemtly you don't understand the differences between Atheism and pure political paranoia. Take a political science course or two, adn a little world history. Mao and Stalin were paranoid about keeping, and staying, in power. Stalin was just whacked out because he knew that the only way to advance in early Soviet communism was to elimiate the one above you. Mao was a confirmed child ra-pist. Nothing to do with Atheism, it was nothing more than political power.

      July 8, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And Heaven Sent and justsayin will now proceed to completely ignore your post, Mirosal.

      July 8, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
    • great intellect my ass

      @mirosal
      Mao and Stalin had everything to do with atheism, they were atheists. 24 million murdered because they were above you? Over 100 million as a molester? What a moron. Mensa my ass

      July 9, 2012 at 4:28 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Mirosal nailed it, GIMA/Captain Ass hole/herbie/Doddering. Dictators get rid of religion to eliminate compete ition for power. Don't be such an idiot.

      July 9, 2012 at 7:39 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ Tom Tom ... They are just mad because they cannot refute what I said in a clear, concise, logical, civil manner. All they can do is throw insults because they don't know any better. It's amazing how they want a battle of wits when they are clearly unarmed, while you and I have a nuclear ar'se'nal.

      July 9, 2012 at 8:03 am |
    • Mirosal

      They also do not know the first rule in running any dictatorship ... kill off or imprison the competi'tion. No religion, or even a lack thereof, is needed. It's all about staying in power at all costs.

      July 9, 2012 at 8:09 am |
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