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July 10th, 2012
10:00 PM ET
Episcopal Church approves same-sex blessing serviceBy Michael Pearson, CNN (CNN) - Episcopal priests will be allowed to conduct services blessing same-sex relationships under a policy approved Tuesday at the church's national convention in Indianapolis. The convention's House of Bishops approved the provisional policy 111-41 with three abstentions Monday, clearing it for consideration by the House of Deputies, which approved it Tuesday evening. The policy was approved in the House of Deputies, following more than an hour of debate, by 78% of the voting lay members and by 76% of clergy. With the vote, the Episcopal Church will become the largest U.S. denomination to officially sanction same-sex relationships. The Episcopal Church has about 1.95 million members in the United States, down 16% over the last decade, according to the church. The service is not considered a marriage ceremony, media affairs representative Nancy Davidge said. FULL STORY
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God made me gay.
God made me a drunk.
God made me a pervert.
God made me a serial killer.
God made me a man in heels.
God made me a deadbeat on welfare.
God made me a drug head.
God made me attracted to children.
God made me a wifebeater.
Illogical.
You forgot :
God made me a troll.
squirrelly............right! my choice, illogical! fetch the nut!
"God made me a wifebeater"
In your case, I quite certain that it is true.
atheists are too cool! they jus knows it all! why don't any of ya have a job?
Atheist logic usually doesn't include mythical beings making anything in any way.
Being all those things at once must be very trying for you. It would explain your frustration.
Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Current problems:
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,
@sam stone
Bigotry would be, if I would discriminate gays, which I encounter outside the church. I can assure you that I treat gays very kindly, because that is an expression of the gospel without words.
The only thing, which is not acceptable, is that they go to Church. The Church is the place, where people gather, which are reconciled with God. A reconciled man will not be gay, but live in abstinence or in regular marriage.
And when I say 'treat them kindly', I mean with my peen.
according to you and you alone Rainer...Judge not lest ye be judged.
You have thrown the first stone....
Your postings by the way are very bigoted.
My brothers church, marries, and welcomes gays. It sounds like your church sucks.
@Who invited me?
You misinterprete the Bible. Judging would mean, if I would discriminate gays outside the church like gay workmates, neighbours, etc.. I don't handicap gay people, but treat them kindly without bias.
It is only that they cannot be allowed to come to church, as long as they don't accept the redemption in Christ.
Rainer
You misinterpret the bible, and so does everyone who reads it. That is why there are over 38,000 religions based on "the true word of God"
Put your rediculous bible down and join the 21st century. It is nothing but a book of stories and myths. If it were the "word of God", it would be far more clear to those who read and believe, but since it is the work of ignorant, superst i tious, control hungry people it will confuse you.
That is so stupid I can't believe you wrote it, Rainer. Not even you.
You're going to exclude people from attending a church because they're gay?
Yes Rainer's colors are starting to show.
Yet, Rainy, you would deny them equal rights.
Rainer, whenever atheists (cough Tommie Tom who's on the war path) who hijack my handle to post hatred towards you, understand that it's not me writing insults to you.
Rainer, CNN, Tommy Boy and the rest of the Atheists plot to stop me. They didn't stop Matti and they wont stop me. Please understand this.
I think you are awesome Rainer. I want you to give me a dirty sanchez.
Amen
HeavenSent, I came from a test tube so I guess I can do whatever the eff I want.
Atheist spend all day allowing a God they say the don't believe in to dominate their minds! HI-LARIOUS!
I'm soooo clever! I totally came up with that smug little joke all by MYSELF.
An atheist in hiding!!! Even more Hilarious!!!! Don't be scare you little fellow!
I'm also posting as 'Sup!' btw, and I'm just in here doing some trollin' before I have to go back to summer school! I failed too many classes and have to take 'em again.
When I could be wasting my pathetic life here like you!
Which I am doing right now!!
Even funnier, an atheistposter! Gotcha spinning!!!!
I love talking to myself!! It is great!!!
Fake Joker! Keep it coming! It's is so fun! Like stirring a hornet nest! Atheist attack in groups! HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I like to blow goats
Oh, come one guys, just funnin! Really, don't go away!
Don't now, i'z jus playn, i'll quit breaking the atheist rules. cmon, be my friend! hehehehe
I'm only frustrated by the actions of insane persons claiming invisible beings are communicating with them as they attempt to effect laws that happen to also govern me and my family...
Saying hi to myself. I am so easy to entertain. Don't go away Joker this is too much fun. I know it is. Do you Joker? Yes I do. No you don't. Yes I do. No you don't. Yes I do.
heeeehheeee who who who?
Mass Debater.......yeah cmon, let's play! Love the high filuting way ya talk! Like ya edumacated or sumphing! Yes, everyone should play by the atheist rules and deny God and die! Great plan! You too fun!
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No, it is just the pompous christians we rail against
JOKER, are you Cajun? You sound about as stupid as they do when they talk.
now now, don't be prejudice against cajuns. atheist posed to luv us all, equal rights, Right?
@Janet said:
"We have learned from modern science that people do not choose to be gay or straight; hence it is neither logical nor moral to condemn those whose nature it is to be gay or lesbian."
To some extent you are right, Janet. Indeed, there is an evil germ within us, which makes us sinning. Some people may become gay through this evil germ. Science confirms the biblical doctrine: We are sinners by nature, we have no choice, we are forced to sin by our sinful body. We have biologically inherited the sinful nature of Adam.
Yet, this is only valid as long as we don't know of Jesus Christ, who can give us the Holy Spirit, who is stronger than our sinful body, and by whom we can overcome our sin.
The one who believes in the gospel and gets baptized has died for the sin and entered Christ. In Christ we overcome our sinfulness. Christ is our new nature, which displaces our sinful nature step by step.
Talk about more fractal idiocy. Oh thank you Rainer for writing such idiotic posts, I've been wanting to use the word "fractal" all day.
become gay through this evil germ
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Nowhere close to the truth. If people "become gay", it's because that's how God designed them to be. Kind of like God designed you to function with a lower than average intellect.
@Madtown
You err. God did not create us with a evil germ, but perfect. It is only that Adam forsake God, who is the Source of Life, and had to degenerate consequently. We are descendants of the degenerated Adam.
@Rainer
That makes absolutely no sense. Something perfect is incapable of acting in an imperfect manner, that's just completely illogical.
News flash Rainer. Adam was a myth. Sorry to destroy your little system there, but evolution is true. They'll get into that in 6th grade
Oooh, an "evil germ".....prove it, Rainy
"Science confirms the biblical doctrine: We are sinners by nature"
Where?
You do know that making stuff up just makes you look more insane, don't you?
Hopefully you used some KY jelly before you entered Jesus. Rainy
Why is the religion blog the atheist cesspool hangout. What a life!
belief blog .....and I believe you are an idiot
Most people stop sayin 'sup!' after the age of 16
More like a christian cesspool that people keep trying to clear up.
Same thing.....what a bunch of losers!
Stop it, your bustin my gut! Angry little atheist you are! BAH!!!!!!!
Unlike yourself, Sup? You're so cool, wandering in to set us all straight. What's it like to be so cool?
I can get a good look at a t-bone by stickin my head up a butcher's ass, but......no wait it's gotta be your bull.
who said I want to set you straight. It wouldn't be fun then! Just needed a laugh so I come here to watch all the atheist battle a God they are scare of. It's a hoot!!!
@Sup!
You can't be scared of something you don't think exists.
Thuffrin Thuckitash!............angry little things you are, it's so funny, the invisible God is gonna getcha! Better get on the cnn blog and battle him!
Yeah...logic fail. Why be scared of something that doesn't exist?
Um...no one's battling god, since there is no god...
@Sup!
One also cannot "battle" something that doesn't exist, but we can address beliefs, and the people that hold those beliefs. Especially those that would be deemed harmful to others, like taking away rights of certain people for not agreeing with their unproven beliefs and idiocy.
I am one of many names Sup!
Dont fall asleep tonight 😉
Killer! Stop! He gonna getcha!
pass around the blood pressure pills! Atheist are so easy!
Sup you need to sober up. Too much Jesus juice
HeavenSent........cmon now, got some???
One of these years "Sup" will go to school and they will teach her the plural of atheist, is atheistS.
Squirrel boy............now then, that's uncalled fer, that's what I said, atheistesess. Thinks they know it all.
@HeavenSent,
"myweightinwords, cough, Tommie Tom. "
Okay, that's a first. If you notice, my "username" is a hyperlink. It goes to my blog, which is in turn linked to my facebook, my flickr and my twitter. You will see I am my own person. I have no need to pretend to be anyone else. Nor can anyone else easily pretend to be me.
Also, as a side note, I believe Tom is an atheist. I am not. And our writing styles are very, very different.
"Everyone born of woman is God's children. Even the tares if they repent, ask Jesus for forgiveness, then sin no more will be loved by Him."
You did not say God's children, you said Jesus' sheep, which would imply those that follow him. Thus my response remains true. I have no need to lead his sheep astray. I have my hands full with my own spiritual journey and helping those who want my help.
As to the rest, I have heard it all before, you know? I've even believed it before. Been there, done that...it didn't work for me.
Ooops, this was meant as a reply below. Sorry about that.
She's not quite sane enough to follow your logic, but, it's good of you to try...
Sam,
I believe that honest, civil discussion is the only way to affect change...in ourselves and in others. I attempt to engage others with that in mind.
Sam is right I do not understand logic or even reality.
How do you think you are helping marrying same s4xed partners? As for you spiritual journey? What might that be? Obviously, it's not Jesus' truth.
@HeavenSent,
"How do you think you are helping marrying same s4xed partners?
Two Pagan men are in love and desire to be married in a ceremony that honors their faith. I am licensed to perform legal marriages in the state of California and I am Pagan as well. It seems a pretty simple thing, doesn't it? Now, granted it was only legal for a short time, but it will be again, of that I am certain.
They had a need that I could fill, thus I helped make them a legally bound couple. They now have two beautiful children through surrogates and are a wonderful family.
As for you spiritual journey? What might that be? Obviously, it's not Jesus' truth.
Each of us is on our own journey, HS. We don't all travel the same roads, and we definitely don't all have the same destination. My journey has been a long one, and it started out on a Christian path, but has diverged significantly. I am an eclectic shamanic Pagan, with leanings toward Celtic Reconstructionism and Native American Shamanism (specifically that of my ancestors, the Iroquois), if you need a label to hang on it.
I have a simple question for anyone who thinks that the bible is moral:
When you beat your slaves, do you beat them so that they are almost dead? Because that is in accordance with the teachings of the bible, or do you beat your slaves to death (not allowed)?
Why not pose that question to the s3x traders that enslave folks today. Then come back and tell us who you'd rather have oversee your well being. Slaves in Biblical times were paying off a debt by working. Today, not only do they not pay off their debt, they bog the courts down with their non-payment nonsense.
Im not sure which conspiracy you're using to justify your hypocrisy but you still didnt answer my question.
Beware lest any man spoil you with his main vain, after the behinds of men, and not after Christ's behind.
Colossians 2:8
Get lost pervert hijacking my handle.
You have a pervert jacking your handle?
Some things are better done in private...
"hijacking my handle"
I'm so stupid that I think the internet is CB radio.
Amen
A gay man is simply a man who has totally lost the control of his body.
Why did he lose control?
He did not trust in the Lord God, who could give him a nice wife in due curse.
Is there no more hope for gays?
There is still hope, if they realize God's love by the gospel: God delivered his precious Son for the my sins, the sins of every gay, and the sins of the whole world. This should convince us of God's love and that he is trustworthy and good.
If we have returned to the loving God again, we will trust him that he takes care of us in all areas of life, even se-xuality, and we don't need to take a same-se-x partner. God will give us a wife timely.
This is the real faith.
Rainer
Why did men take away gods wife.....If you look at history, The jews worshipped not only god, but his wife....they don't anymore...why did men take away gods wife....is He gay?
It would certainly explain why god made so many more gay people...
@Rainer
You're post is not only stupid, but fractally wrong, and really not even amusing like most foaming rants from religious idiots.
we don't need to take a same-se-x partner. God will give us a wife timely.
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Well, if that's true, then why does God continue to make humans who have desires for the same s*x?
God sucks at handing out wives. Adam's first wife totally did not fit in, apparently. So...no.
A gay man is a man who is attracted to other men. Period. Stop.
Now, some gay men may not be in control. Just like a number (if not many) straight men.
Being gay is natural, normal and is not a statement on an individual's control of their body.
Madtown, God is not doing anything to man. Man conducts sin on his own for not trusting and abiding in Jesus' truth. In layman's terms, you own your own bad behavior.
myweightinwords, lusting after the flesh is not normal, it's a sin. Anyone that lusts after the flesh is blinded by that sin ... no matter what their s3xual preference is. It's sin. Sin is violating Jesus' Holy truth. Sinners need to read the Bible for the rest of their lives to understand God and what He wants from us. Not this coping out by listening to man.
Tommie Tom, Adam only had one wife.
@HeavenSent
The concept of sin is an invention of your religion, and doesn't apply to anyone that doesn't believe in your religion.
hawaiiguest is another dummy handle for Tommie Tom.
I'm not Tom, but I'll gladly point your dumb ass to the Lilith story...
@HeavenSent
Like I always say, prove it. Random assertions will not get you anywhere, especially when you use it to avoid the topic.
So now HS thinks Who invited me? and I are one poster? How many other names do you imagine I use, HS? How much time do you think I have?
@HeavenSent,
myweightinwords, lusting after the flesh is not normal, it's a sin.
Everyone lusts. It is absolutely and completely normal. It may also be a sin, if your personal belief dictates that it is. Mine does not. Acting out on that lust in an immoral manner, is not good, but I imagine our definitions of immoral vary greatly also.
"Anyone that lusts after the flesh is blinded by that sin ... no matter what their s3xual preference is. It's sin. Sin is violating Jesus' Holy truth."
That is one definition. I have heard several others. None of which apply to those who do not believe in Jesus.
"Sinners need to read the Bible for the rest of their lives to understand God and what He wants from us. Not this coping out by listening to man."
Having spent many years studying the bible and believing I was a worthless sinner, I can honestly say that I do not in anyway believe any of it. There is no honor or love in a being that would demand blood sacrifice for simple disbelief.
Homosexuality is not a sin according to the Bible. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, prostitution, and rape, not homosexuality. That’s why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will. This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God's will.
Matthew, those so called scholars learn that nonsense from the Kenites who are God's enemies.
Even as S-odom and Go-morrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving them-selves over to fo-rn-i-cation, and going after str-ange fl-esh, are set forth for an example, suffering the ven-ge-ance of e-ternal fire.
Jude 1:7
HS, you stated in response to another post that the APA and other organizations that no longer see h0mos3xuality as a mental illness were "lying" to gays and had a motive for doing so.
Why are they lying and what is their motive?
"All evil heretics, which support and promote the blessing of same-se-x couples, have to be excluded from the Christian Church"
The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.
Very true James. However, the fundamentalist has no time for these facts, as they get in the way of the fundamentalist casting their bigoted judgement upon whomever they wish.
Ways of the world, traditions of man going against God's truth. Vanity. Nothing but vanity.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8
"don't throw God's pearls to swines"
Keep your man-made, cultured pearls. Real ones are much more valuable.
blimey!... posted in the wrong place.
Tommie Tom, you still haven't made like a tree (LOL).
No, not Tommie Tom... but shall I make like a tree and provide some lovely shade and coolness, perhaps some nourishing fruit and some soil-sustaining mulch when I am finished with each year's crop of foliage?
Or were you hinting at some kind of 3rd grade kids' humor?
"The evil leaders of the Episcopal Church, which support gayness, must get fired."
The Biblical condemnation of homosexuality is based on human ignorance, suspicion of those who are different, and an overwhelming concern for ensuring the survival of the people. Since the Bible regards homosexuality as a capital crime, it clearly assumes that homosexuality is a matter of free choice, a deliberate rebellion against God. We have learned from modern science that people do not choose to be gay or straight; hence it is neither logical nor moral to condemn those whose nature it is to be gay or lesbian.
Janet, I'll repost this here.
Ways of the world, traditions of man going against God's truth. Vanity. Nothing but vanity.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8
Amen.
The evil leaders of the Episcopal Church, which support gayness, must get fired.
We urgently need a free international council of the Christian Churches about the issue of blessing same-se-x relationships.
If that council would be staged in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I could predict the decision of the council:
All evil heretics, which support and promote the blessing of same-se-x couples, have to be excluded from the Christian Church: Anathema.
The Episcopal Church immediately needs a new leadership. The current bishops of the Episcopal Church should be given the boots, and be replaced by pious bishops, which really live as Christians in daily life by the power of Jesus' call, which is the sacramental baptism.
"We urgently need a free international council of the Christian Churches about the issue of blessing same-se-x relationships."
You're the one that needs to be fired since your prejudice and bigotry isn't based on any real facts of today. Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."
Social science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents—concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people—are unfounded. Overall, the research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being.
Yes curse those diabolical Episcopal leaders and their Christ like acceptance of others.
I have an idea. Rainer: since you're not episcopalian, why don't you ignore them, and go back to your own crazyface part of the cult?
It's not even your church, Rainy. Why are you having this hissy fit?
Rainy is having a tantrum because the leaders of the Episcopal church do not agree with his bigotry
Give it a rest with the prejudice and bigotry against Jesus' truth. We can call all you fools murderers for allowing the souls of gay people to go to the eternal flames. None of you will be standing next to a gay person when they die and their soul goes back to God, who created all.
Rainer,
They were elected by the working of the Holy Spirit. You are a blasphemer. Repent, and mend your ways. You can yet be saved. The devil is working his way in you. Jesus wants to come into your heart. Let Him in today. Your evil ways are not acceptable to God, Rainer. Down on your knees.
There will be a special place in hell for religious leaders who lead people in contradiction to scripture. I would never belong to such a liberal denomination.
I don't think anyone really cares what delusion you ascribe to.
And that is your prerogative.
It's one of those benefits of Freedom of Religion.
Amen Evangelical.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8
Good for you, evangelical. Somewhere there is a speeding bus with your name on it. Go, meet Jeebus
"I would never belong to such a liberal denomination"
Well, that is probably best. I am quite sure they would not want a neanderthal mouth breather in their flock.
marriage is a legal device, not a religious one.
get married in a church with church approval but without a gov't issued marriage license = not legally married
get married in a courthouse without church approval but with a gov't issued marriage license = legally married
you can add ritual and ceremony to a marriage, but it's not necessary. marriage is a legally binding contract between two people.
True.
I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to just get the state out of "marriage" altogether and just have a standard set of legal contracts for people to join as.sets/interests/rights/responsibilities/etc.
In other words, no state sanctioned "marriage" licenses for anyone.
i agree. have legal contracts. then if someone wants to have a ceremony to celebrate their love, they can do that - separately.
Bootyfunk, how would you non-believers even know about marriage if it weren't for God's truth that you don't abide in?
HS
Marriage has been part of human society long before man created your bible.
Jesus Christ, why is HeavenSent on the warpath today? Did someone slip her a Red Bull?
did you skip what i wrote? marriage is a legal contract, not a religious one.
god doesn't exist. so i don't need your imaginary friend in the sky's permission.
christianity is a cult. cults are not healthy for you. leave the cult. think for yourself.
HS
Marriage existed thousands of years before Christianity or Judaism. Australian aboriginals had a marriage ceremony thousands of years before they ever met a European.
@Sam
I was feeling sorry for the poor old gal, so I put a little pick me up in her morning "communion" wine. Apparently, amphetamines and wine do not mix well with her.
Huebert!! How could you!
Next time just roofie her and drop her off at the nearest psych ward...
sam, who do you think you are fooling? You're just another dummy handle for Tommie Tom who's wrath blinds her.
Huebert, I know you fools are rewriting everything on the net about Judaism. Judaism is not the scriptures of the OT. Never was, never will be. All Jews who followed Moses are called Christians. Judaism is a phony religion that hates Jesus.
You are one crazy, paranoid wench.
Bootyfunk, you fools that follow the talmud are a cult. Jesus knows His enemies. Don't think you can hide after you die and your soul goes back to Him who created all.
sam, cough Tommie Tom ... time to make like a tree.
Any writings prior to the OT is of the Devil
Amen.
You should take something for that cough. Starting with your bipolar meds.
@HS
Did you read my post before you responded? I didn't say anything about Judaism, other than marriage ceremony's are older than it.
@sam
I let my sympathy get in the way of mu judgement. Lesson learned.
I'll stuff something down her throat will fix that cough
the bible is very clear about killing h.omos.exuals. as an atheist, i'm curious how g.ays deal with that little gem? skip over it like the orders to kill non-virgin brides, disobedient children and anyone working the weekend?
The magical words of allegory, context, and culture.
in other words, skip the parts i don't like.
The bible is ambiguous enough and contradictory enough to justify/condemn just about anything. Why highlight this one area?
because it has to do with the subject of this article...?
how do you get to marriage when the rule book says to kill g.ays? it's the only thing the bible says about h.omos.exuality.
Bootyfunk, I notice all you atheists pick out the scriptures honing in on the likes of your bad behaviors.
"Bootyfunk, I notice all you atheists pick out the scriptures honing in on the likes of your bad behaviors."
so you notice that anyone condemning the hateful orders to kill h.omos.exuals in the bible is actually g.ay because they point it out? what are you, 12? 13? that's the best you can do? "you defend g.ays so you must be g.ay?" get a life.
Heaven sent – your bible clearly says that your god commands you kill gay folks. Just like it clearly says that young virgin unengaged girls who are rper have to marry their attackers.
You ignorant fundiots refuse to do either of these.
Jesus speaking in Matthew 9:13,” But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
I am very glad that as a Pagan I don't have to wait for some counsel or board or membership meeting to vote on doing the right thing.
It has been my pleasure, as licensed clergy, to stand witness at marriage ceremonies of both hetero and ho.mo.s.exual couples. And it didn't take a three year process to make it happen.
^ Like !
Peace...
both hetero and ho.mo? group marriages? cool.
Just kidding. peace.
@ME II,
Well, I did preside over a commitment ceremony for a polyamorous family once. But that's an entirely different article/comment, I think. *grins*
Jesus said those that lead His sheep astray are up first for judgment. Enjoy your fun in this life, you won't be spending eternity with Jesus if you don't repent, ask Him for forgiveness, then sin no more.
We need, I don't know, maybe 6 bible quotes to back up that assertion, HeavenSent.
"Jesus said those that lead His sheep astray are up first for judgment"
So all of the jeebus loving rednecks who regularly violate sheep are going to be the first to be judged?
@HeavenSent,
Jesus said those that lead His sheep astray are up first for judgment. Enjoy your fun in this life, you won't be spending eternity with Jesus if you don't repent, ask Him for forgiveness, then sin no more."
Well, first off, I don't have many of Jesus' flock asking me to preside over their weddings....seeing as I'm a Pagan minister and all that....so I don't see how I'm leading anyone astray.
Secondly, I have no intention of spending my eternity with the Christian god....so no worries there either.
Jesus said blessed are those that judge other sin my name. I speak the Jesus's truth.
Amen
myweightinwords, cough, Tommie Tom. Everyone born of woman is God's children. Even the tares if they repent, ask Jesus for forgiveness, then sin no more will be loved by Him.
Remember you must get on your knees, open you mouth and accept the Lords gift and let him fill you.
Amen
@HeavenSent – You are doing Jesus a disservice by messing up his truth with your posts.
"myweightinwords, cough, Tommie Tom"
You would cough a lot less if you got that dick out of your throat.
AverageJoe and Jimmer, boy Tommie Tom your wrist must get tired utilizing all the dummy handles? Plus, get your kicks using perversion under your own handle ... coward.
Tommie Tom, you still haven't acted like a tree.
Heaven Sent, you claimed that the APA and other organizations had a motive for recognizing that h0mos3xuality is not an illness, and that this was a lie. What is the motive?