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Strange religious bedfellows unite for letter against hotel porn
Hotels' in-room movie selections should not include porn, according to two religious scholars.
July 12th, 2012
11:03 AM ET

Strange religious bedfellows unite for letter against hotel porn

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) – A letter penned by two notable scholars - a Christian and a Muslim - and sent to a number of different hotel industry executives has asked those hotels to remove pornography from their company’s in-room movie selections.

Robert P. George, a professor at Princeton University and the past chairman of the conservative National Organization for Marriage, and Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, co-founder of Zaytuna College, a Muslim school, wrote the letter to urge hotels “to do what is right as a matter of conscience.”

“We are, respectively, a Christian and a Muslim, but we appeal to you not on the basis of truths revealed in our scriptures but on the basis of a commitment that should be shared by all people of reason and goodwill: a commitment to human dignity and the common good,” reads the letter.

The letter marks the joining of two unique men with two distinctly different faiths. Yusuf says they were able to put aside their disagreement on other issues because of  their commitment to this cause. “We need to see that those things that are threatening our society today are much graver than anything that may divide us,” he told CNN.

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Reaction to the letter from some adult film stars - and even from some advocates for removing porn from hotels - was negative.

Craig Gross, a pastor and the founder of XXXchurch.com, says the letter is an empty gesture with no power behind it.

“It has got to be one of the dumbest letters I have ever read,” Gross said. “It is like asking the Internet to stop selling porn. It sounds good and all, but it isn’t going to happen.”

But the letter’s authors argue that the Internet and hotels are different, with hotel owners directly profiting off the temptation of porn.

“We urge you to do away with pornography in your hotels because it is morally wrong to seek to profit from the suffering, degradation, or corruption of others,” states the letter. “You are placing temptation in their path - temptation for the sake of profit. That is unjust. Moreover, the fact that something is chosen freely does not make it right.”

Yusuf continued to use this argument in an interview with CNN. “Just because we are able to do something doesn’t mean it is what we should be doing. And just because you can sell these things doesn’t mean it is something you should be selling,” he said.

In Gross’ opinion, this logic is a slippery slope. When planes offer access to WiFi, is that placing temptation in the path of those who may view porn on the Web? When hotels offer room service, he asks, are they tempting dieters?

Gross has a long history of helping those with porn addictions, and his website is dedicated to getting people help. According to him, removing porn from hotels is a futile endeavor because of the "unfettered availability of porn on the Web. “

According to a 2005 report on the state of the adult entertainment by Adult Video News, a trade journal on the adult-film industry, 55% of hotel movie rentals are porn movie rentals. The average revenue from movie rentals, according to LodgeNet, a company that provides in-room entertainment services, was $16.51 per room per month in 2008. In the third quarter of 2009, LodgeNet brought in $64.8 million. This, however, included more family-friendly options as well.

A 2011 report by Robert Mandelbaum at Colliers PKF Hospitality Research found that from 2000 to 2009, movie rental revenue for hotels in general decreased 39%.

Even with the reported slip, Gross and other critics acknowledged there is a demand for adult entertainment.

“This is supply and demand,” Gross said. “We spin our wheels doing all the wrong things. The issue is not that it is available; the issue is that people buy it.”

Prior to this letter, however, some hotels had already pledged to remove pornography from their programming or had removed it.

In 2011, Marriott International - a company founded by a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that continues deep Mormon ties - pledged to phase out adult content from all hotel rooms. The move came after groups like Focus on the Family met with Marriott officials to urge them to remove adult movies.

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“Adult content will be off the menu for virtually all of our newly built hotels,” read the Marriott statement. “Over the next few years, this will be the policy across our system.”

Marriott is not the first hotel group to do this, though. Omni Hotels, a Dallas-based luxury hotel chain, removed all adult films from its in-room systems in 1999. According to other reports, adult-free programming is helping the Omni differentiate itself in the hotel market.

Websites like cleanhotels.com look to help porn-free hotels by compiling a list of hotels that do not offer adult entertainment and leading people to them. Cleanhotels.com says it does so because its supporters want to know they are “supporting a facility that cares enough about the wellbeing of its customers not to make harmful pornographic movies available.”

The American Hotel & Lodging Association, however, defends the right of hotels to choose what services to offer in their rooms.

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“In-room offerings such as this are made available based on market demand, are not offered in all hotels, and are subject to the same legal review all hotel operations are subject to,” read a statement from Kathryn Potter, senior vice president of marketing and communications for the association.

Ron Jeremy, an adult-film star who has been in over 2,000 porn films, according to the Internet Adult Film Database, sees efforts to remove porn from hotels as attacks on freedom of speech.

“What they have to understand is that freedom of speech works for all of us, not just for them,” Jeremy said about those who want to get porn out of hotel rooms. “This is a country that is secular; you have freedom from religion and freedom of religion. Give me a break.”

While Jeremy said he is all for making sure kids in hotel rooms can’t get to porn - “I think that is marvelous” - he said he doesn’t see why adults shouldn’t watch “consenting adults have consenting sex.”

"If a guy has a hard day at work or is at a convention and wants to sit down in his hotel room and puts on an adult film and plays spank the monkey, why can’t he do that?"

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christianity • Islam

soundoff (1,415 Responses)
  1. Peter

    "...the fact that something is chosen freely does not make it right.”
    The same can be said of religion.

    July 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Albert Leo

      Amen!

      July 13, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  2. jamest297

    This is a joke, right? Maybe a trick question?

    July 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
  3. FluffyBunny

    Here's an idea: Let's boot religious programming from TV, period.

    July 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      As if you didn't have your wolves in sheep's clothing on those channels!

      July 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      LET's Religiosity Law #10 – If you believe any of the christian ass-clowns on television are “helping” you get closer to Jesus and not doing it to get your money, but also have the capacity to be shocked when their misdeeds eventually come to light… well, you are an imbecile.  This law is immutable.

      July 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  4. Jaime

    Are they also supposed to put filters on their free internet so that people can't look it up on their laptops and mobile devices?

    July 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      They have succeeded with TV – even most cable channels.

      There are so many movies on so many channels that have the profanity or otherwise lewd words replaced.

      July 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  5. Gorian

    The bibles ought to be removed from hotel rooms as well.

    July 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • Anita Bongtoke

      I agree!

      July 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
  6. Chad

    I like to post unfounded declaratives. Everyone here likes me when I do that.

    July 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
  7. sugarmomma1

    Stay out of my bedroom and my business! I thought we were free in America...

    July 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      I like to be in America!
      O.K. by me in America!
      Ev'rything free in America
      For a small fee in America!

      Automobile in America,
      Chromium steel in America,
      Wire-spoke wheel in America,
      Very big deal in America!

      July 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  8. Sumo

    Dear Religious Fundamentalists,

    MIND YOUR OWN F*%#@&G BUSINESS!

    Love,
    America

    July 13, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  9. Ralph in Orange Park, FL

    While they are at it, they can take the Bibles and Korans out of the nightstands.

    July 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • Peter

      That would be a fair trade.

      July 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    July 13, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      prayer changes nothing

      July 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      I agree... Prayer helps those blessed individuals activate their suicide vests... and when they do... it changes things...

      July 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!::

      July 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • JohnHinesJr

      Atheism is the default state for children and other living things. A religion is a learned concept, not an innate one. Your argument is invalid. Further you claim prayer changes things. Where is your fact-based evidence to support your claim? You don't have any. Your argument is invalid.

      July 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • FluffyBunny

      One pair of hands at work is worth more than a million pairs of hands clasped in prayer.

      July 13, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  11. Will

    Religious scholars? Is that an oxy-moron?
    Profound knowledge of fictional stories....hmmm.

    July 13, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I don't think it's an oxymoron, it's just the same as being a Harry Potter scholar or a Ulysses scholar (which would be far more impressive that being a religious scholar).

      July 13, 2012 at 11:55 am |
    • TC

      To be a scholar you have to be enlightened, creative and open to all types of posibilities. Atheism is way too close minded to entertain a spiritual world.

      July 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      @TC C+ for effort, but that's because i'm overly generous to the deprived.

      July 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      No, "religious scholar" is not an oxymoron.

      Arguably its no different to being a scholar of Mallory's Le Morte D'Arthur or Tolkien's fiction or Star Wars, but that doesn't mean religion cannot be studied.

      July 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • jamest297

      Actually, there can be no more an oxymoron in the world than to be a religious scholar.

      July 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  12. Reality

    Yahooing "free po-rn" , 143,000,000 results. And they want to remove a few movie channels?

    July 13, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • 2012

      What does yahooing mean?

      July 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • 1990

      It's kind of like CompuServing, but better.

      July 13, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      AoL Search

      July 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • BeerBrewerDan

      I only use Archie

      July 13, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  13. myweightinwords

    P.orn has been a part of society since two men figured out how to draw a stick figure with bo.obs on it. P.orn will always be a part of our society, because we are s.e.xual creatures.

    The amount of s.e.xual repression in this country is staggering. Collectively we need to loosen up. Don't like p.orn or have religious rules about it? Don't watch it. It really is pretty simple.

    Now, that isn't to say that all p.orn is good and what have you. Yes, there are issues with degradation and there can be cases of people being pressured into performing. And yes, not everyone can handle their own self and can over-do or become addicted.

    But that is true of many, many things that we don't try to regulate.

    July 13, 2012 at 11:11 am |
  14. Jebus Christ

    I am no longer Jebus I am Jebus Christ

    July 13, 2012 at 11:00 am |
  15. AverageJoe76

    I have an idead; how about DONT order the p_orn if it offends?

    Taaaa-Daaaaaa!!!

    July 13, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • AverageJoe76

      And No, 'idead' is not the new Apple zombie, it's actually the misspelled, evil brother of 'idea'. Apologies.

      July 13, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Dag nabbit. I was just gonna go down to the Apple store to pre order the iDead.

      July 13, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • ME II

      lol
      iDead. the new Apple zombie, very intuitive, one function EAT BRAINS

      July 13, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • CosmicC

      Good, for a moment there I was worried that Apple had bought the Grateful Dead catalog.

      July 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  16. I'm The Best!

    Maybe they'll play the story of Noah's ark instead. Because god mercilessly killing every living thing on the planet save for a few is much better for people to watch.

    July 13, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Or when Lot's daughters got him drunk and took turns with him.

      July 13, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • bluemoondrop

      ew

      July 13, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  17. rAmen

    do they know that there's this new thing called the INTERNET? lol, this is funny

    July 13, 2012 at 10:20 am |
  18. lindaluttrell

    You've got a wrist, I presume...switch channels and don't WATCH it! I suppose "religious violence" is far superior entertainment...

    July 13, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • derp

      "You've got a wrist"

      Hence the need for p orn.

      July 13, 2012 at 11:42 am |
  19. LarryB

    Of course, these same people have NO problem with movies showing violence, murder scenes, guns blazing, etc. Hypocrites, all of them.

    July 13, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • AverageJoe76

      I concur. They may as well ban all Earthling-activity. There's no way to avoid s ex, drugs, or violence when mentioning humans in the same breath. BTW.......... why does 's ex' always get lumped in with drugs and violence? Puritan spin, I guess.

      July 13, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  20. scatheist

    Replace it with videos of people getting their heads chopped off?

    July 13, 2012 at 10:08 am |
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