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Chick-fil-A's marriage stance causing a social storm
July 19th, 2012
08:18 AM ET

Chick-fil-A's marriage stance causing a social storm

By Brad Lendon, CNN

(CNN)–The fact that Chick-fil-A is a company that espouses Christian values is no secret. The fact that its 1,600 fast-food chicken restaurants across the country are closed on Sundays has long been testament to that.

But the comments of company President Dan Cathy about gay marriage to Baptist Press on Monday have ignited a social media wildfire.

10 religious companies (besides Chick-fil-A)

"Guilty as charged,", Cathy said when asked about his company's support of the traditional family unit as opposed to gay marriage.

Chick-fil-A controversy shines light on restaurant's Christian DNA

"We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that," Cathy is quoted as saying.

CNN's This Just In Blog has the full social media reaction to the latest Chick-fil-A flap
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Christianity

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  1. Tom

    Does anyone else think "chick-fil-a" is pretty pornographic?

    July 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
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  3. Reality

    What Mr. Cady should have said:

    Only for the new members of this blog–

    The reality of se-x, contraception and STD/AIDS control: – from a guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

    (or why we the citizens i.e. government concern ourselves about disease, etc. transfer)

    Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity on the part of both heterose-xuals and h-omose-uals as fits the case:

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

    Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

    July 22, 2012 at 10:53 am |
    • .....

      BULL SH IT ALERT !

      July 22, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • Tom

      Great stuff Reality. Please keep on posting.

      July 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
  4. AtheistSteve

    test.... fuck

    July 22, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Ah...finally figured it out...cool. Now I can properly swear at you fuckers...when it's deserved of course...lol

      July 22, 2012 at 8:16 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Did you hear the one about the ass hole Canadian that minded its own business?

      July 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      You won't. It can't help itself from thinking it has something of value to say. reality = butt in Canadian = bull sh it

      July 22, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  5. Randy Davenport

    Read the Baptist Press Article. Nothing was said about gay marriage or gays. CNN is lying in its coverage. The article was very positive and family friendly.

    July 21, 2012 at 8:40 pm |
    • Pete DeVillez

      Randy Davenport hits the nail on the head. Most news coverage, especially CNN and the Houston Chronicle, ran several headlines that stated "President of Chick-fil-A is anti-gay". What Dan Cathy, President of Chick-fil-A stated is that he supports the biblical definition of the family unit. If someone who supports gay marriage states that they support gay marriage, why doesn't CNN or the Houston Chronicle accuse them of being anti-traditioanl marriage? The mostly liberal media loves to use the term "anti-" when someone is "pro-", but only when it furthers their liberal agenda. Liberal media = guilty as charged.

      July 22, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Gadflie

      Pete, that's simple. Because they aren't "anti-traditional marriage" They are doing nothing at all to prevent you from having a traditional marriage if that is your choice. Get a grip kid.

      July 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer really changes things

    July 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!|. .

      July 23, 2012 at 10:36 am |
  7. theothetruth

    I can tell by a lot of comments that there are those who don't acknowledge that every human being is eternal. You will never die. Even if you live to be one hundred years old that is but a speck not even a wisp of vapor of your eternal life. You and I have an pre-set appointment. I don't know if you will be in front of me or behind me. You will on your knees confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord. This is an invitation you cannot miss an invitaion you can't refuse. I pray that you would stop your rebellious blasphemies now and accept that Jesus loves just as you are. But if you must, it's your free will.

    July 21, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • Minerva

      your right and the soul a has no gender, just as matter returns to a new form so does the soul and the two lives meet once again that what makes a soul mate,.. so because soul have no se.xual ident.ity it possible your soul mate was born a man...

      you see when it comes to obeying a creator Bi.se.xuality is the only moral road don't judge by gender follow your heart and love unconditionally be theme man or woman, t.an or he.rm love because you love them,....and don't forget to wear a condom

      July 21, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Isn't it too early for a bed-time fairy tale?

      July 21, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • pervert alert

      That is what the story is about ,what you disgusting fairies do at bedtime. Qu eers the folks that gave the world AIDS

      July 22, 2012 at 7:04 am |
    • MoronAlert

      "Qu eers the folks that gave the world AIDS"

      You're a moron 75% of AIDs is in Africa among straight people.

      July 23, 2012 at 10:37 am |
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  10. Honeycomb

    When did it become unacceptable to stand by your principles and convictions?
    When did it become ok for your rights to determine what I believe or not believe in? Stop the nonsense already!

    You go Chick-fil-A! We whole heartedly support you!!! Bravo!

    July 21, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • jmejrmm

      I agree, stand for the word of God. You will not go down but God will lift you up for HIS glory!!

      July 21, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Can we assume that in their defense of the " sancti-ty of marriage " that they are also funding an effort to make divorce illegal ?

      July 21, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • JWT

      It is certainly Ok for the company to have convictions and stand by them. It is equally OK for others to publiclly condemn those convictions based on the companys actions and to publically try to gather support to stay away from or to embarass the company.

      July 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
  11. CHRIS

    VIVA LA CHIK FIL A

    July 21, 2012 at 8:42 am |
  12. pervert alert

    Who cares where or if qu eers eat. qu eers the folks that gave the world AIDS. Who needs some diseased fa ggot drooling in a public restaurant anyway?

    July 21, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • YeahRight

      "qu eers the folks that gave the world AIDS"

      You've been proven WRONG on this stupid comment over and over again. Keep showing how clueless you are about the gay community. Only uneducated prejudice people would post something like this.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:18 am |
    • pervert alert

      The whole country knows that qu eers brought AIDS upon the world. It is a simple fact. No matter how you try to hide Truth it will always be there, ho mo se xuality will always be a dirty disgusting unnatural sin, including the qu eers use of animals for perverse gratification.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • YeahRight

      "The whole country knows that qu eers brought AIDS upon the world. It is a simple fact. No matter how you try to hide Truth it will always be there, ho mo se xuality will always be a dirty disgusting unnatural sin, including the qu eers use of animals for perverse gratification."

      Thanks for proving me right. So people this is what an uneducated fool looks like who is suffering from low self esteem issues. Isn't prejudice disgusting.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • pervert alert

      No prejudice just simple Truth, apparently beyond your capacity to grasp. Get used to it. Ho mo se xuality has always been criminal and unnatural, and no amount of your whining or finger pointing will ever change that .

      July 21, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • YeahRight

      "Get used to it. Ho mo se xuality has always been criminal and unnatural, and no amount of your whining or finger pointing will ever change that ."

      LMAO – Keep proving me right in how uneducated you are and how much you are suffering from low self esteem issues. Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      July 21, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Erik

      "Ho mo se xuality has always been criminal and unnatural,"

      Being gay is not a choice science, in fact, is actually not in dispute on this matter.

      All major medical professional organizations concur that sexual orientation is not a choice and cannot be changed, from gay to straight or otherwise. The American, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and European Psychological, Psychiatric, and Medical Associations all agree with this, as does the World Health Organization and the medical organizations of Japan, China, and most recently, Thailand. Furthermore, attempts to change one's sexual orientation can be psychologically damaging, and cause great inner turmoil and depression, especially for Christian gays and lesbians.

      Reparative therapy, also called conversion therapy or reorientation therapy, "counsels" LGBT persons to pray fervently and study Bible verses, often utilizing 12-step techniques that are used to treat sexual addictions or trauma. Such Christian councilors are pathologizing homosexuality, which is not a pathology but is a sexual orientation. Psychologically, that's very dangerous territory to tread on. All of the above-mentioned medical professional organizations, in addition to the American and European Counseling Associations, stand strongly opposed to any form of reparative therapy.

      In my home country, Norway, reparative therapy is officially considered to be ethical malpractice. But there are many countries that do not regulate the practice, and many others that remain largely silent and even passively supportive of it (such as the Philippines). Groups that operate such "therapy" in the Philippines are the Evangelical Bagong Pag-asa, and the Catholic Courage Philippines.

      The scientific evidence of the innateness of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transgenderism is overwhelming, and more peer-reviewed studies which bolster this fact are being added all the time. Science has long regarded sexual orientation – and that's all sexual orientations, including heterosexuality – as a phenotype. Simply put, a phenotype is an observable set of properties that varies among individuals and is deeply rooted in biology. For the scientific community, the role of genetics in sexuality is about as "disputable" as the role of evolution in biology.

      On the second point, that there is no conclusion that there is a "gay gene," they are right. No so-called gay gene has been found, and it's highly unlikely that one ever will. This is where conservative Christians and Muslims quickly say "See, I told you so! There's no gay gene, so being gay is a choice!"

      Take this interesting paragraph I found on an Evangelical website: "The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" – meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are 'born that way.'"

      But that's not at all what it means, and it seems Evangelicals are plucking out stand-alone phrases from scientific reports and removing them from their context. This is known in academia as the fallacy of suppressed evidence. Interestingly, this is also what they have a habit of doing with verses from the Bible.

      This idea of sexuality being a choice is such a bizarre notion to me as a man of science. Many of these reparative "therapists" are basing this concept on a random Bible verse or two. When you hold those up against the mountain of scientific research that has been conducted, peer-reviewed, and then peer-reviewed again, it absolutely holds no water. A person's sexuality – whether heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual – is a very deep biological piece of who that person is as an individual.

      The fact that a so-called "gay gene" has not been discovered does not mean that homosexuality is not genetic in its causation. This is understandably something that can seem a bit strange to those who have not been educated in fields of science and advanced biology, and it is also why people who are not scientists ought not try to explain the processes in simple black-and-white terms. There is no gay gene, but there is also no "height gene" or "skin tone gene" or "left-handed gene." These, like sexuality, have a heritable aspect, but no one dominant gene is responsible for them.

      Many genes, working in sync, contribute to the phenotype and therefore do have a role in sexual orientation. In many animal model systems, for example, the precise genes involved in sexual partner selection have been identified, and their neuro-biochemical pathways have been worked out in great detail. A great number of these mechanisms have been preserved evolutionarily in humans, just as they are for every other behavioral trait we know (including heterosexuality).

      Furthermore, there are many biologic traits which are not specifically genetic but are biologic nonetheless. These traits are rooted in hormonal influences, contributed especially during the early stages of fetal development. This too is indisputable and based on extensive peer-reviewed research the world over. Such prenatal hormonal influences are not genetic per se, but are inborn, natural, and biologic nevertheless.

      Having said that, in the realm of legal rights, partnership rights, and anti-discrimination protections, the gay gene vs. choice debate is actually quite irrelevant. Whether or not something is a choice is not a suitable criterion for whether someone should have equal rights and protections. Religion is indisputably a choice, but that fact is a not a valid argument for discriminating against a particular religion.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • pervert alert

      @Erik
      To sum up your opinions in a word ...
      BULL SH IT

      July 21, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Sim34

      They may want to care about where decent, non-judgmental people eat; because those with any conscience won't be coming near this chain.

      July 21, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • pervert alert

      @sim34
      If truth is judgment to you, you must have a real guilty conscience.

      July 21, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
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      July 22, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
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  14. just sayin

    Since I came out of the closet the other day (some of you will remember in one of my other ranting and raving posts) I've had 3 relationships with three men already! YUM!

    July 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • pervert alert

      Needy kids in your foundation do not count as men Jerry.

      July 20, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • just sayin

      pervert alert...are you scared that I'll out you and admit that you were one of the guys? YUUUUUUUUM!!!!!!

      July 20, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • pervert alert

      That would be the difference between being an adult or a child molesting qu eer.You appear to be of the child molesting qu eer type, unable to have a legitimate adult relationship. How is that name stealing AIDS thingy working out for you?

      July 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    • Sim34

      pervert alert
      Are all the men who molest little girls, including their own daughters, also "qu eers"? I think that if you make a honest check into child molesters you'd find that the vast majority of them are straight.

      July 20, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • pervert alert

      There is no such animal as a a straight child molester. All molesters are criminal filth. Qu eers have a long history of trolling grade schools for victims. Check out public service warnings on the subject from the 1950's; before America lost it's common sense and it'sway.

      July 21, 2012 at 7:00 am |
    • YeahRight

      "There is no such animal as a a straight child molester. All molesters are criminal filth. Qu eers have a long history of trolling grade schools for victims"

      Keep showing that you have no clue about the gay community. Most pedophiles are considered straight. And a gay person can't convert anyone because being gay isn't a choice. Duh! Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      July 21, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • pervert alert

      @Yeah Right
      Medical science can now tell mom or dad congratulations you are the proud parents to be of a boy, girl or qu eer?
      BULL SH IT

      July 21, 2012 at 11:17 am |
    • Sim34

      pervert alert
      So, a male child molester who goes after little girls is ... gay? Come on, nobody seriously believes something so foolish as that.

      July 21, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • pervert alert

      @sim34
      try reading what you are responding to first and you will avoid looking like such an ass hole.

      July 21, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  15. midwest rail

    1. The phrase appears nowhere in the bible.
    2. It is attributed to Gandhi.
    3. " It would not surprise me" does not qualify as evidence.
    4. Contemporary Christians have co-opted the phrase, and then proceeded to corrupt.
    5. What the heil does ped0philia have to do with anything I've said ?

    July 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  16. Typical Christian

    To be a good person, it is important to hate and discriminate against gays.

    July 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • just sayin

      The Truth is not hate nor is it discrimination. Learn to accept sin for what it is, an evil dependence that separates people from God. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      just lyin lies.

      July 20, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • truth be told

      just sayin doesn't

      July 20, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • BamaDaniel

      Just smokin smoke

      July 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      TBT is an ass hole that blows more than smoke and less than truth.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • BamaDaniel

      @tom,don't be putting smoke down like that

      July 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Sim34

      Typical Christian
      Being "good" isn't the aim of born-agains. They just want to be "saved" and get into heaven. For that, they will gladly shun their unapologetic gay family and friends. Many will step over anyone they are told to in order to get their reward. So selfish!

      July 20, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • Janet

      "The Truth is not hate nor is it discrimination. Learn to accept sin for what it is,"

      The Biblical condemnation of homosexuality is based on human ignorance, suspicion of those who are different, and an overwhelming concern for ensuring the survival of the people. Since the Bible regards homosexuality as a capital crime, it clearly assumes that homosexuality is a matter of free choice, a deliberate rebellion against God. We have learned from modern science that people do not choose to be gay or straight; hence it is neither logical nor moral to condemn those whose nature it is to be gay or lesbian.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • just sayin

      When confronted with sin there are two options. First acknowledge the sin for what it is, admit your failings before God and accept the redemption offered through Jesus Christ OR hide the sin, confuse the issue with bogus theories even to the point of hiding behind "science" or "knowledge". It is still hiding, learn the difference. God bless

      July 21, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • Melvin

      "When confronted with sin there are two options. First acknowledge the sin for what it is"

      The Scriptures at no point deal with homosexuality as an authentic sexual orientation, a given condition of being. The remarkably few Scriptural references to "homosexuality" deal rather with homosexual acts, not with homosexual orientation. Those acts are labeled as wrong out of the context of the times in which the writers wrote and perceived those acts to be either nonmasculine, idolatrous, exploitative, or pagan. The kind of relationships between two consenting adults of the same sex demonstrably abounding among us - relationships that are responsible and mutual, affirming and fulfilling - are not dealt with in the Scriptures.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • YeahRight

      ""science" or "knowledge"."

      Oh, you mean the REAL truth about the gay community. Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      Social science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents—concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people—are unfounded. Overall, the research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being.

      July 21, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • Sim34

      Janet
      The Bible considers lots of things "capital crimes", like back-talking your parents and adultery. In a culture where a man measured his wealth by the size of his family gay individuals not interested in breeding loads of grandkids would indeed be frowned upon.

      July 21, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
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    July 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
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      July 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  18. Taco Love

    Jesus hooked up with a lot of dudes.

    July 20, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  19. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    July 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!'

      July 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • phoodphite

      It does!! If I pray a really long time right after I've had some delish Chick-fil-A chicken, I get a stool of a different color!

      July 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • your wrong

      no it doesn't.

      July 21, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • Sim34

      As long as you understand that every positive result is a sign of the glorious power of God while ignoring the majority of results that aren't so positive.

      July 21, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  20. Snow

    Having a view is completely different from acting on that said view. Mr. C is enti.tled to have any number of ideas on moral stand points.. But I can bet any amount of money to say that he does not have the stones to act on those or shove those moral views on his patrons (in true christian way). if he begins to act on them by, say, banning gays service in his place.. or not allowing divorced/remarried folks in, he knows as well as us that his business would go bust.

    So, whats the point of having high morals but no gnads to follow up on them? All talk and fluff? is it yet another example of christian way?

    July 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • OnWhatBasis

      Your idea of the Christian way is a false idea. The Christian way is not to ban anyone from businesses or church, for that matter. The Christian way is to admit and abhor the sin, not to hate or ban the sinner. So your challenge is false and your "yet another example of the Christian way" if false.

      July 20, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
    • Primewonk

      @ OnWhatBasis – so you see nothing wrong with Cathy donating millions of dollars to anti gay groups who seek to legalize discrimination against gay folks?

      July 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • OnWhatBasis

      P, it is not my calling to police what Mr. C does or says. My point is Christian the way does not include hating or discriminating against the sinner. Those who do are wrong. By the same token, the Christian way is to take a stand against immorality and injustice.

      July 20, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • midwest rail

      The Big Lie as practiced by the contemporary faux Christian – " Love the sinner, hate the sin. " Interesting that this appears nowhere in the bible, aand is, in fact, an idea stolen from Ghandi. No wonder they've corrupted it.

      July 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • OnWhatBasis

      mr, the bible does not explicitly say don't be a pedophile, either. What is your point?

      July 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • midwest rail

      My point is that the vast majority of people using the stolen line blithely recite it, then go on their merry way spewing hatred, bigotry, and ignorance. First they stole the concept, then corrupted it. Faux Christians.

      July 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • OnWhatBasis

      First, we have to correct that the idea was stolen from Ghandi, which is as faux as it gets. It is common knowledge the bible existed long before Ghandi was born. It would not surprise me at all if Ghanda took the idea from Scripture. Secondly, the only hatred, bigotry, and ignorance being displayed right now is not coming from Christians. Thirdly, your point is still not made or making any sense right now.

      July 20, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Sim34

      OnWhatBasis
      Gandhi was familiar with Christian scriptures, which is why he said “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

      July 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Sim34

      midwest rail
      Remember also that there something being labelled a "sin" does not naturally mean that it's morally wrong. Look at all the kosher laws that are listed as "sinful" in the Bible which are completely ignored by modern-day Christians.

      July 20, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
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