July 19th, 2012
02:15 PM ET

My Take: McCain takes down Bachmannism and stands up for America

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

(CNN)–One of Sen. John McCain’s better moments came in a 2008 campaign stop when a woman told him that she couldn’t trust Barack Obama because he was an Arab. Taking the microphone away from her, McCain said, “No ma'am, he’s a decent family man (and) citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what this campaign is all about.”

He had another great moment this week, when he stood up on the Senate floor to defend Huma Abedin, deputy chief of staff to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, against McCarthyesque accusations leveled against her by his Republican colleagues.

It all started on June 13 when Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, and four other Capitol Hill legislators — Reps. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, Trent Franks, R-Arizona, Thomas Rooney, R-Florida, and Lynn Westmoreland, R-Georgia — sent letters calling on five federal agencies to investigate an alleged plot by Islamists to infiltrate the hallowed halls of the U.S. government.

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“It appears that there has been deep penetration in the halls of our United States government by the Muslim Brotherhood,” Bachmann told radio host Sandy Rios in June. “It appears there are individuals associated with the Muslim Brotherhood who have positions, very sensitive positions, in our Department of Justice, our Department of Homeland Security, potentially even in the National Intelligence Agency.”

One of these individuals, in her view, is Abedin, a Muslim-American and top Clinton aide who was called out by name in a letter to the State Department.

Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota, the first Muslim elected to the U.S. Congress, called on Bachmann to provide evidence for her smears. She responded with a long letter that Ellison dismissed on Anderson Cooper as “16 pages worth of nothing.”

In his remarkable Senate speech, McCain blasted Bachmann for spreading “vicious and disgusting lies” against someone he described as “an honorable citizen, a dedicated American, and a loyal public servant.”

“These sinister accusations rest solely on a few unspecified and unsubstantiated associations of members of Huma’s family, none of which have been shown to harm or threaten the United States in any way,” he said. “These attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis, and no merit. And they need to stop now.”

But McCain did more than defend a civil servant he described as a “friend.” He rightly spoke of American values as well.

“What makes America exceptional among the countries of the world is that we are bound together as citizens not by blood or class, not by sect or ethnicity, but by a set of enduring, universal, and equal rights that are the foundation of our constitution, our laws, our citizenry, and our identity,” McCain said. “When anyone, not least a member of Congress, launches specious and degrading attacks against fellow Americans on the basis of nothing more than fear of who they are and ignorance of what they stand for, it defames the spirit of our nation, and we all grow poorer because of it.”

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Instead of being chastened by criticisms of her “McCarthyism,” Bachman doubled down in response, charging on her website on Wednesday that the Obama administration “appeases our enemies instead of telling the truth about the threats our country faces.”

Still, it is McCain’s language that resonates.

Throughout our history we have had politicians who trafficked in fear. But alongside this ugly and divisive tradition stands a great tradition of conciliation—of voices who put the interests of the country over their personal interests and the interests of their party. This week, as on the campaign trail in 2008, John McCain was one of those voices.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Bachmann • Church and state • Culture wars • Islam • Middle East • Opinion • Politics • Prejudice • United States

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  1. jk

    It is truly a shame that McCain let his idiot handlers in his presidential campaign erase this moral courage and unwillingness to pander and saddled him with Sarah Palin. I'm glad we still have him in public life.

    July 20, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
  2. Reality

    One wonders if Stephen P. knows anything about Islam. A short summary for his benefit:

    Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

    This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

    And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

    Current crises:

    The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Syria) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

    July 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • chuckie

      Wow. Almost sounds exactly like the biography of Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church. Thanks for the information.

      July 20, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
  3. Peace2All

    Well, unless she and her fellow right-wing nut job bat sh!t crazy f-u-c-kers can come up with any direct evidence, this just becomes more lies and terror tactics. Bachman and the far christian right feel the need to use their anything goes mind-set because they are God's little warriors. The ends justifies the means thinking.

    Apparently smearing anyone's reputation without evidence is not beyond these crazy f-u-c-ks. 😯


    July 20, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  4. pardo

    It's a lead pipe cinch that many here have either forgotten or never held any belief that holds them in anything but a convenient light. This blog should be changed to the ANN... Atheist nut nation.

    July 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • Typical Christian

      Teach us allhow to live, o brilliant, enlightened one. Just kidding. You are obviously a brainwashed sheep. Mental slave.

      July 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  5. Chuck

    John McCain has more integrity in his pinkie than any other politician in this country

    July 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  6. clubschadenfreude

    McCain did a good thing. Now he needs to keep his morals and stand up to Romney who is a inveterate liar. If he doesn't, he shows that his courage is nothing more than a convenience, to be brought out when he doesn't risk anything.

    July 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    July 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!'

      July 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • clubschadenfreude

      Prayer changes things? How has prayer changed the death of the child by stavation while it's mother watched and prayed. How did prayer change the fact that people jumped to their deaths from the WTC rather than burn alive? How did prayer change the fact that a soldier loses a limb from an IED set by someone else who has prayed to another god? Such nonsense theists claim.

      July 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • nonconformist

      Prayer changes nothing but the pray-er. It's like wishing upon a star and just as effective.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
    • truth be told

      It is your responsibility to feed the starving
      What specific prayers are you referencing from the world trade center?
      Natural laws set in effect are rarely overturned. You know nothing of a bombers prayer and less of the cruelty of man, so you blame God and use the service of people for their country to bolster your argument? You appear to be kind of low end on that wouldn't you say?

      July 20, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      NIce non-sequitur, turd.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • just sayin

      Unless of course you are ending slavery through the prayers of the church, or starting a hospital or founding a university, or curing a disease or advancing the cause of mankind in a million other ways. Try to remain a "non" conformist your "non" may not hurt anyone but yourself. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You moron, the prayers of the church didn't end slavery or anything else. Getting off your fat azz might.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • just sayin

      William Wilberforce. You know not of which you speak. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You know not how to write, justlyin, TBT.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Don't you get tired of being such a fvckin' idiot? There's no proof any prayers ended anything, including slavery.

      July 20, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • just sayin

      No amount of language can hide what you are. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • just sayin

      Prayer is where the plans man received from God are born. First prayer, then ideas, then work, then results. Nothing but evil and filthy sins delay the results. The sooner we are all on Gods side the better this world will be. You must be born again, seek the Lord Jesus Christ with your whole heart and soul and mind. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @just sayin

      Once again, prove it. I ask you this often, and you never answer. Most of the time you just run away.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And no amount of Scripture can hide what YOU are, you lying hypocrite.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      HG, justlyin doesn't HAVE any proof. It hasn't any honesty, goodness, or love, either. It's an ugly, lying sack of sh!t.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • just sayin

      No need to "run and hide" hawaii, William Wilberforce was already given as an illustration of a man of prayer who changed slavery. I would have thought you would have noticed that or in your rush to self righteous judgement do you speed past ALL the examples you are given? God bless
      John Newton

      July 20, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Provide proof, justlyin. Not belief.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
    • just sayin

      Are you really that bad off? England ended the slave trade after a lifetime of prayer, planning work and results of William Wilberforce and many other praying Christians. God bless

      July 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you REALLY that stupid? Correlation /= causation, you dumb azz.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @just sayin

      And the rest of the time, you do exactly what you did. Irrelevant drivel while giving absolutely nothing. Well at least your a predictable troll, if still a stupid one.

      July 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
  8. Bob

    Yet again, "HeavenSent", you respond with more insults. Just more hate from you, so typical of the more dogmatic followers of your evil religion. Calling me a "fool" hardly helps your case, but we've come to expect nothing better from you.

    (pushed to the top to continue to expose HeavenSent for the religion-based hater that he/she is.)

    July 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      There is a real heavensent, and a fake one.
      The fake one posts non-stop all day under many different names and stolen names just trying to get a rise out of people...right now he's all over the story in Colorado, posting extremely inappropriate things.

      Before being goaded into a fight with the fake jerk, think about the post. The real HS is a beleiver...the fake one is a punk kid.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Bob

      For the most part, all we can do is respond to the poster or not, with no definitive knowledge of who that poster is using that handle at any given time, given that CNN has no significant authentication. However, at least one 'HeavenSent' has been insulting other posters here for a very long time, and I don't think that was the kid that you describe.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hey Bob, God wrote that you are fools. I agree with Him.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      It's always fun to imagine some crazy southern cat lady foaming like a rabid chipmunk whenever HeavenSent posts.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  9. @heavensent

    Please lady cease from making ugly un-Christian messages... There is already so much to overcome without making it worse unless of course you're Elijah come back from the dead to pour water on the alter of wood .. 🙂 🙂

    July 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • Bob

      Actually, HeavenSent's tone is quite consistent with some of the hate-filled messages found throughout the bible. Consistency in hateful, insulting comments is sadly also one of her more recognizable traits.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Boo hoo, I won't stroke little bobby's need to hear what he wants to hear instead of hearing what he needs to hear. Boo hoo.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      same goes for phony heavensent. Boo hoo. HeavenSent is telling Jesus' truth and it goes against our sinful natures. Boo hoo.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
  10. Pete

    McCains smart ,he's knows this ranting about Muslim extremist by a republican known for such delushional witchhunts has to stop.It's setting fires to their base and alienating everyone that's intelligent to step away from the fray,would you want to be associated with a wacko like Bachmann,I wouldn't if I were a republican,but thankfully I'm not,I'm too intelligent for that extreme party,ya know the destructive one!!If this keeps up it'll be open season on republican seats and it'll be the republicans drummed out of Capitol Hillfor forever,do you really want that hypocrites!!

    July 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  11. Michelle channeling Jesus?

    Next thing you know Michelle will be making statements discouraging young women from getting vaccinated to protect against cervical cancer. ...oh

    or that environmental disasters are the result of politics ...oh


    July 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  12. palintwit

    I remember how they were finally able to plug that leaking oil well in the Gulf a few years ago... they used a week's worth of John McCain's soiled grampy diapers.

    July 20, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • ME II

      Oh, how I wish the "Report abuse" button still worked. (sigh)

      July 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
  13. Lucifer's Evil Twin™

    This is an interesting trend... this is probably the second time in the last few months that I agreed with anything Prothero says. I like McCain, honor and integrity is actually important to him. Once they are sold, you can never get them back.

    July 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
  14. Reality

    As noted previously:

    McCain is probably correct but:

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

    Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    July 20, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I don't trust YOU to tell anyone anything, you nut-job.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • chuckie

      go to your garage. turn on the car. sit there and breathe deeply. America thanks you.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Make no mistakes reality, the Christians in America have to pay for the sins of the atheists that the Muslims hate.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      @HS – Wow. That's even more stupid than usual, even from you.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Primewonk

      The Christian version of the same god as the Muslims commands the same things for Christians to do in their bible. The Muslims just have the balls to obey their god's commands. The Christians just thumb their noses at god and ignore his commands.

      Commands like killing all non-believers, stoning non-virgin brides, killing gay folks, forcing girls who are ràped to marry their attackers.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      PrimewonkIn Morocco they still make women marry their rapist.
      Recently there was a 16 year old that commited suicide as a result of ths practice.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Wow Evil, not believing His truth is a problem with you atheist, as you just proved.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      "I ain't lookin' for help from on-high. That's a long wait for a train don't come." – Malcolm Reynolds, “Serenity"

      July 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Evil Twin, your 2nd mistake is not understanding that Muslims know Jesus' truth as does everyone in the middle east. It's most Americans that have no clue to the Holy war that is going on and that we are used as pawns.

      July 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin™

      Actually, my 1st and 2nd mistake was in conversing with you.

      July 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • I disagree with you Re

      I disagree... Muslims in America have shown themselvses to be patroitic for the most part... they have a different point of view...thought I hate their false religion ... they have every right to practice it in this country...which is absolutely unlike any other Musllim Country in the World except Syria and Turkey./.... That's right in Syria Christains can indeed live in relative peace even evangelize Muslims and muslims can convert without repercussions ...

      but unless Assad's government can survive (hope he's a country boy) Christains will soon enough feel the wrath of Muslims in Syria ... as they are about adn have been feeling it in Egypt...Turkey's all that's left of Islamic nations where some freedosm for Christians exist...

      July 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
    • @heavensent

      do us and God a big fat favor and refine your messages to that of true righteousness otherwise... shutup is good advice for you... 🙂

      July 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Reality

      Summarizing with that famous prayer:

      The Apostles' Creed 2012: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      (references used are available upon request)

      July 20, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Hit a nerve did I phony heavensent. The muslims know you are liars.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
  15. wirius

    If more on the right spoke like John McCain, I would actually consider voting for them. As of now, the Bachmann's of the party seem to be the one's in power, and they scare the hell out of me.

    July 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • gateway

      Same here!

      July 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • Unapolegetic

      Most of us on the right agree with Mccain. He would have made a great POTUS. We wish the crazies like Bachmann would just dissappear. However, zealots come from both sides, and from the third parties. Hopefully, we get better than we have now, though none are too excited about the choices..........sounds familiar, huh?

      July 20, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  16. Midwest3

    Hopefully, in future history books, Senator McCain's willingness to speak out against those in his party who spew this ugliness will be recognized. We want our elected officials to be statesmen/women, but unfortunately, except for a few, most behave like politicians.

    July 20, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I agree. It's sad that McCain's behavior is exceptional instead of the norm.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • He lost the election

      he lost the election because he did not properly rebuke that lady for callin Obama a Muslim...
      He was to once to her...He shold have told that lady that he did spend time in a POW camp in viet nam suffering tormetn and persecution and ill treatment to come back to America to seek to win an election based on falsehoods and unfounded lies ...John M C Cain is the most honorable man if not the only one still in the Republican Party 🙂 🙂

      July 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
  17. Robert

    This is what an American looks like. Perhaps if the GOP would take their cues from more McCains and fewer Bachmanns, American would be in a very different situation right now.

    July 20, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • He lost the election

      He should seek a PR man to highlight his Military record and how after still beign in PoW camps in harsh Viet Nam he returned with all his integrity in tact and would not lie before a nation adn join in on the hypocrisy of calling Obama a secret Muslim...of course if he did he woudl be tainted forever with that ugly hypocrisy... shameful hypocrisy...

      July 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  18. Mark

    Unfortunately folks, Ms. Bachman is not too far off. We are quietly being duped by the Muslim world into thinking that they are just like us. If you grew up in the 70s and 80s you learned that the PLO and Hamas were terrorist organizations and Yasir Arafat was too. Now, we are told they are only political organizations who still use the same tactics as before. The Muslim Brotherhood, who the administration sees as a political party, is in fact, the group that created AlQuaeda and the other organizations that are terrorizing the world. They, and their subordinate organizations, have been linked time and time again to terrorist activities and fund raising. You would be better served by listening a little closer to Ms. Bachman and less to McCain (and I do respect him). Interested in learning more about the silent Muslim onslaught to our way of life? Go to http://www.actforamerica.org. Educate yourself.

    July 20, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Robert

      Another sheep for Bachmann's fold. Leave your common snese and ability to think for yourself at the door.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    • Mark

      Real nice, Robert. We can have an adult discussion about this without childish insults. Instead of calling names, how about entering into some sort of debate on the topic. Did you visit the website I posted? Did you research what I am saying to see if there is any validity? How do you feel about our children being indoctrinated in our own schools on how to be "good Muslims"? They actually do that in what we used to call Social Studies. If we did that for Christianity or Judaism, there would be lawsuits. Perhaps you are the sheep, not me.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • Robert

      No Mark, I did none of the above. I also didn't bother to read the manifesto on the Westborough Baptist Church website to determine it's validity. As soon as you went on a conspiracy rant about Muslims I pegged you for the bigot you surely are. You see, unlike you, I don't sit around looking for reasons to wet myself. I also don't blame entire groups for the actions of some of their members. This is what bigots do, this is what you do.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • Robert

      Oh, and Mark, you were meant to be offended as I found your bigotry offensive and one of the root problems this nation is facing right now. Of course I support your right to free speack and your right to state your bigotry, But I also reserve the right to call it what it is.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Mark, you're as delusional as HeavenSent.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Varney

      Bachmann has a closer connection to terrorism: HSBC contributed to her campaign while laundering money for Al Queda.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And really? Lying about children being 'indoctrinated' in school? You're beyond nuts.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Mark

      To have an opinion or view on something does not necessarily make a person a bigot. We differ, I would guess on several different things. I do not believe all Muslims are bad just as I don't think all Baptists are bad because of the Westboro Baptist members. It is verifiable though, that much about Muslim history has been changed in our own children's history books in order to "appease" them. They hate us regardless of what we are doing in the Middle East because we are infidels to them. Anyone who claims the Koran is a peaceful book is ignoring the facts that are right in front of them. I won't argue with you further, but I would encourage you to do a little checking on how the Muslim world is spreading it's beliefs and teachings. Do you remember the Barbary Pirates from your history lessons? We paid them off in our Nations youth, so they would leave us alone. They were Muslim and were demanding protection money which back then could be paid in lieu of becoming a Muslim. Thomas Jefferson stopped it when he became president and we had the Barbary War. It has been going on for a long time...now it is a bit more subtle. Have a great day, Robert, but please go look at my side a bit, as I already have seen yours.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • Mark

      Tom, Tom....I can back up what I am saying. They are not lies. Why do they have classes on how to be a good Muslim? Why are our history books being changed in order to tone down the past acts of Muslim organizations and people? Why are we no longer telling our children the truth in their textbooks?

      July 20, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Who invited me?

      The same reasons that all of the above have been done for christianity.
      Religions are tools to control people. You are making this too easy.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, you can't "back up" what you're saying, you bonehead. There aren't classes in public schools on how to be a 'good' Muslim, Christian, or Buddhist, you moron. Grow up.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • chubby rain

      Sorry to keep piling it on, Mark, but that website is a joke. It portrays all of Islam as "radical", which based on the definition of the word, is absurd. It manufactures controversy to promote its intolerance. The "What people are saying" section makes it seem like a bigoted version of weight-watchers. Seriously, the vast majority of Muslims do not want to kill you or destroy America. I know you'll find that hard to believe.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    • Robert

      When that opinion is that an entire group should be treated differently or is less entiitled to the freedoms you yourself enjoy then it absolutely makes you a bigot.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    • ME II

      "It is verifiable though, that much about Muslim history has been changed in our own children's history books in order to 'appease' them. "

      "Why do they have classes on how to be a good Muslim?"
      World Religion or Comparative Religion classes are a good idea. Is someone requiring US children to become Muslims? I doubt it.

      "Why are we no longer telling our children the truth in their textbooks?"
      What is not true in our textbooks? I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes about many subjects in our textbooks, but what is definitively untrue?

      July 20, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Robert

      Also Mark,
      I don't personally know mayn Muslims but the one I do know well left Pakistan to live here because of the freedoms we offer, not to make it like home. He also believes that thouugh he's a devout Muslim that no one should be coerced or forced ot believe anything. As an atheist, I actually find him far less militant than many of the Christians I talk to.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Funny how fast Mark ran away without providing any supporting evidence for his ugly views other than a laughable website.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • KAS

      David Ben Gurion, Yitzhak Shamir and numerous other prominent Israelis were terrorists, belonged to or founded terrorist organizations and committed terrorist acts, but apparently you don't have a problem with them, do you?

      Ahh, the double-standard. Must be nice to live in denial.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I dunno how nice it would be-seems as though it must be awfully crowded there!

      July 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Who invited me?

      Seems that you'd never get your mail in denial
      Question.What is your address?
      Answer: I don't have an address

      July 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son


      July 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Christians already know the Muslims hate the atheists in this country (and, throughout the world) and we have to die right along with their foolishness. Nothing new under the sun folks.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie Tom, the only delusional ones are those that proudly defy Jesus Christ's truth. You own it honey.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Too all you foolish non-believers of Jesus Christ's truth, you are the haters, you are the bigots, you are the liars. Own it.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
    • sam

      HS: shhhhhhhhh.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Bob

      HeavenSent, any fair, reasonable review of your history of comments and your typically insulting tone would conclude that you are generally more hateful than those that you presume to criticize. You represent your religion of evil and hate consistently in that regard.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bob, read Matthew 9 and shut up while doing so.

      July 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Evan

      The website you reference is just a bunch of unsupported hate fear-mongering. Could not the same exact statements of come from the radical baptists and evangelical christians in this country who want to spread their ignorance and bigotry?

      Educate YOURSELF, sir!

      July 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • HD1200SportsterCustomLow

      Mark, I only spent a couple of seconds looking to find out the ACT for America org is a well known hate group I believe started by a known islamophobe who is a fundamental christian making sure to get as many all mighty god dollars as she can. Read more, and use your mind to look at all the viewpoints and facts before jumping in line behind a group of lemmings.

      July 21, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
  19. Hope

    It's great to see McCain finally stop bending to partisan games and fear mongering and return to the inspirational leader that should have gotten him elected the first time he ran for president. I'm very proud of him.

    July 20, 2012 at 10:55 am |
  20. chuckie

    My question is this. What trailer park in Minnesota keeps sending this walking piece of human filth to Congress??

    July 20, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • truth be told


      July 20, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Alan S

      Chuckie: Is it possible to disagree with a person without calling her "a walking piece of filth"? I disagree with Ms. Bachmann probably as strongly as you do; I found her comments about Huma to be ... McCarthy-esque, but my heavens.

      July 20, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Robert

      Yeah Chuckie, You risk offending filth everywhere.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • palintwit

      The same trailer park that gave us Sarah Palin, that other walking piece of human filth.

      July 20, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I'm still shaking my head knowing how desperate the democratic party was for letting you foolish nonbelievers vote.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • TAK

      Alan S: It is possible to disagree respectfully. But once a certain threshold is crossed, as Bachmann does on a regular basis, stronger language is called for. We're not talking paper or plastic here, or boxers or briefs. We're talking freedom or McCarthyism and I will not respectfully disagree with McCarthyism. I will vehemently disagree.

      July 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
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