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9 religious companies (besides Chick-fil-A)
July 24th, 2012
12:00 PM ET

9 religious companies (besides Chick-fil-A)

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

As the controversy over Chick-fil-A’s founder publicly opposing same-sex marriage continues - Mike Huckabee is pushing for a Chick-fil-A day, while the Jim Henson Co. is cutting ties to the chain - we’re republishing our list of 10 other religious companies.

Our initial list was provoked by an earlier Chick-fil-A/same-sex marriage controversy. Is our list missing any names? Tweet us at @CNNBelief to let us know.

Here are 10 well-known companies that don't make religious products - we're not talking kosher foods manufacturer Manischewitz here - but that nonetheless take their religious sides seriously (listed in no particular order).

1. Forever 21. The young women’s clothing company may be best known for its skimpier and saucier offerings, but it also exudes subtle piety. The words John 3:16 – a citation of a biblical verse popular among evangelical Christians - appears at the bottom of its stores' shopping bags. A spokeswoman for the company told The New York Sun that the message is a "demonstration of the owners' faith."

2. Tom’s of Maine. After launching the natural home products company in 1970 with his wife Kate, CEO Tom Chappell nearly left it to pursue full-time Christian ministry. While receiving a master's at Harvard Divinity School, however, a professor advised him to just treat his business as ministry. “He began bringing in different spiritual leaders to talk to the board about how they could use spiritual principles to run the company,” says the Tyson Center's Neal. Beyond environmentalism, the company seeks to "create a better world by exchanging our faith, experience, and hope."

3. Tyson Foods, Inc. The world's largest chicken company employs a team of chaplains who minister to employees at production facilities and corporate offices. Other corporations contract out such services, but it’s rare for a company to keep chaplains on the payroll.

"The chaplains provide compassionate pastoral care and ministry to team members and their families," according to Tyson's website, "regardless of their religious or spiritual affiliation or beliefs."

Tyson recently gave money to launch the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the University of Arkansas, one of the first academic centers of its kind.

4. Hobby Lobby. The privately held chain of more than 450 arts and crafts stories isn't shy about its Christian orientation. "Honoring the Lord in all we do by operating the company in a manner consistent with Biblical principles," reads the company's mission statement. "We believe that it is by God's grace and provision that Hobby Lobby has endured."

The company supports a slate of Christian interests, from Oral Roberts University to the conservative Alliance Defense Fund, and is known for taking out overtly religious newspaper ads around the holidays.

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5. ServiceMaster. Never heard of this corporation? Perhaps some of the residential services companies it owns, like Terminix and American Home Shield, will ring a bell.

The company was founded in 1929 by Marion E. Wade, who "had a strong personal faith and a desire to honor God in all he did," according to ServiceMaster's website. "Translating this into the marketplace, he viewed each individual employee and customer as being made in God's image - worthy of dignity and respect."

The company, formerly public but recently taken over by a private equity firm, still consciously tries to "do the right thing in the way that employees treat customers," says Theodore Malloch, who leads Yale University's Spiritual Capital Initiative. "It's a theological statement about servant leadership - think of the picture of Christ washing the feet of his disciples."

6. Herman Miller. The Michigan-based furniture manufacturer's founders were steeped in the Reformed Protestant tradition. "It retains a lot of that in practices that revolve around a notion of respecting the dignity of the human person and a strong environmental ethic that grew out of the religious responsibility," says Yale's Malloch. Indeed, Herman Miller - perhaps most famous for its Aeron chair - prides itself on environmental philanthropy and on regularly appearing on Fortune's annual list of best companies to work for.

7. Interstate Batteries. The car battery giant has a "self-avowed religious identity and is very open in their God talk" in internal training and communication, says Lake Lambert III, author of Spirituality, Inc. Former company president Norm Miller moved to the role of chairman to allow more time to address Christian audiences. Miller talks to those "interested in how he found the truth of Christianity," the company's website says, "and how he learned to effectively apply biblical principles to create a more successful business." Interstate employs its own chaplain.

8. In-N-Out Burger. Chick-fil-A is hardly the only fast-food outfit to make its founders' religious leanings part of its recipe. Western U.S. burger chain In-N-Out has printed citations of Bible passages on cups, wrappers and other pieces of packaging since at least the late 1980s. For instance, "John 3:16" appears on the bottom of soft drink cups, a reference to the Bible passage, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Read more on In-N-Out's religious side at Eatocracy, CNN's food blog.

9. Walmart. Treat this one as an honorable mention. Lambert says the Walton family, which founded the company and still own a major stake in it, has used Christian servant leadership models in building the world's largest retailer. And the company's Arkansas roots helped sensitize it to the shopping habits of churchgoers. It helps explain why Walmart long carries the kind of Christian books that were once the exclusive province of Christian bookstores. "You don’t find those kinds of things in J.C. Penney," Lambert says. But Walmart has been so successful with such material that it's now become a business threat to Christian booksellers.

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly reported that Whole Foods co-founder and CEO John Mackey is a Buddhist. Whole Foods Global Public Relations Director Kate Lowery says that Mackey has never been a Buddhist. “John does not fit into any traditional religious category,” she said in an e-mail message.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity • Missionaries

soundoff (2,481 Responses)
  1. Russ

    you forgot Covenant Trucking Company

    February 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
    • Gbird

      And GOD, guaranteed overnight delivery.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
    • Calvin

      CNN openly and aggressively hates Christians.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • UH60L

      Yeah, cnn hates christians....that's why have a stupid "belief blog" on cnn. Yeah, they ahte you all......

      You don't see an athiest blog on cnn, or an agnostic blog.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:25 pm |
    • therealtruth11

      once again Commi News Network is at it again, daily bashing moral values by disguising it as doing a story, they just want to damage their names by publisizing them. Watch Fox News

      February 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
    • Greg

      What the heck would an atheist or an agnostic have to blog about?

      February 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • Dave

      I don't utilize the services of 'religious' companies. Commerce is not the realm for religion, neither is politics. Religion belongs in the personal realm only. These companies (and countless itty-bitty ones who overtly proclaim religious adherence) are only using your faith as a marketing tool. Using the name of Christ to make money is about as un-Christlike as you can be.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • Georg

      No, but they should have a moron blog and make you the spokesman.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • UH60L

      Everythign else in the world besides religion. And of course about all the crazy religious people and what they are doing that aprticlar day/month/year.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • Dave

      I volunteer to write the Atheist blogs, CNN. Not enough representation of atheists, for sure.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
  2. Tomboy

    Just a thought. I wonder how many of those ranting about Christian corporations stuffed themselves with products produced by those corporations as they watched the Superbowl. There's a saying "You are what you eat". Wouldn't it be something if eating food produced by Christians made you a Christian? Forgive me God... Just a little humor there.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
  3. murdoch

    as a christian i find this one of the most embarrassing articles i have ever read....except for maybe "In-n-out Burger"- those are pretty good burgers....that part made me proud

    February 7, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • St8sman7

      We love the In and Out Burger bumper stickers after we cut the B and r off.

      August 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • David

      I prefer the In-N-Out Sausage.

      August 2, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
  4. Common Sense

    Oh and another thing I'd like to point out-is that also means you dont support the military, seeing as it's runed by the USA. So much for thanking the people that protect you and allow you to come online and blog about faith and not be reprimanded for it...

    February 7, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
    • AmazingSteve

      AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, YOU TWIT.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • GoHomePalin

      You should probably educate yourself on American history before you make yourself look even more moronic.

      February 8, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • TDW

      What does the military have to do with this discussion? We are discussing, in particular, Chick-Fil-a, among others, but especially the company I mentioned because it gives millions of dollars to hate groups.....groups who want to deny citizens of this country their civil rights. When a company starts doing things like that it is a company that loses all credit in my eyes. You simply do not, as a company, give money to groups who want to deny civil rights. That is not what this country is built on. When people are denied or lose their civil rights, then the country as a whole is going downhill. So many people have fought to gain civil rights for all and here are some people who say....civil rights for everyone....except you. I don't like you.

      August 1, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
  5. Bill Kilpatrick

    If it helps them put out a good product, and to do so honorably, all power to 'em.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • jon

      Bill, that depends on your definition of a good product. God tells us in Genesis to be good stewards of His creation, yet Tyson's chickens are horribly raised; grown too fat and too quickly that their bones do not develop fast enough to support their weight. they take a few steps and have to sit down. Their bones are essentially more gelatanous that calcified. Their not supporting good stewardship with their chickens. They never see daylight and are kept in cages stacked very high and too small. While they're in those cages, they poop on their neighbors below them. It's not a good product, and I doubt they taste the way they used to. The meat industry is on that same track, too. These are not good products.

      February 8, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • toxictown

      Jon is right here. I am not a christian and it does not bother me that the owner(s) of a particular are (or muslim, or jewish, or hindu, etc...) but it DOES bother me when I am giving money to a business that is (in my opinion) not behaving correctly (a la industrial meat farming) or supporting causes I do not agree with (a la Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay stance). It's my money – I can vote with my wallet as I wish.

      February 17, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
  6. wwajdblogger

    Jesus said, "No-one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money." (Matthew 6:24). Sounds to me like bringing Christianity into the search for profit is a doctrinal impossibility.

    http://www.whatwouldamericanjesusdo.com

    February 7, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • nzwp4q

      The idea is SERVING money. Not earning money. Most of us need to earn money. None of us needs to let it become our master. Big difference. Similar to the idea of whether you own your stuff, or your stuff owns you.

      August 3, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
  7. Common Sense

    @Marlye-Someone is quick to judge a business not on their product, or work, service, or the quality, but just on how the business was started. Thats shallow. That means you don't support the USA either because it was based on the Christianity. Now unless you live in the US, I guess that doesn't really matter anyway. Says a lot about your personality being so quick to judge based on religion. I believe that's called discrimination.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
    • AmazingSteve

      You may find this excerpt from the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli interesting:

      "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

      It irritates me SO MUCH when people say that my country was "based on Christianity." It was not. "In God We Trust" didn't even appear on currency until the late 1800s. You can spout whatever nonsense you want, but you really ought to know that it's not true.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • ijreilly

      The United States is not a Christian nation.–>'Washington revealed almost nothing to indicate his spiritual frame of mind, hardly a mark of a devout Christian. In his thousands of letters, the name of Jesus Christ never appears. He rarely spoke about his religion, but his Freemasonry experience points to a belief in deism."-"Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses."-Thomas Jefferson-"My parents had given me betimes religions impressions, and I received from my infancy a pious education in the principles of Calvinism. But scarcely was I arrived at fifteen years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of different tenets, according as I found them combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself."-Benjamin Franklin- "Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. " -Thomas Paine.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm |
    • Alverant

      If the US is a christian nation, then why are we a democracy? Democracy is anti-christian. So is freedom of speech and religion. So is no cruel and unusual punishment. So is not requiring a religious test for public office.

      You are wrong, the US is based on ANTI-christian principles.

      February 8, 2011 at 8:21 am |
    • Ian

      @ Alervant

      That is your first mistake right there. The US was nto meant to be a Democracy but a Republic and actually is but morons have used the workd Democracy so much that is what people mistakenly think the US is. Democracy was a dirty word to he founding fathers. That is a fact.

      February 8, 2011 at 10:35 am |
  8. Eddie

    Some of the comments above are so sad and makes you wonder what direction our country is heading. The fact that some of the leadership and founders of these companies are Christian should not turn anyone off or make them vow to never do business with them. The founders of this great country were Christians. To be a true Christian means to be Christ-like, a follwer of Jesus Christ. I'm not saying all these companies are perfect, they are not, because they are run by people and none of us are perfect. However, we can all try our best to live for the Lord and treat others the way we want to be treated. I would ask everyone to study Jesus' life and teachings in the bible, not judge religion by the works of man. Peace

    February 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    • Raevyn

      Yes, they were Christian....and they only slaughtered the native peoples, enslaved african americans and rammed their religion down everyone's throat. Good job.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • ijreilly

      No, the majority of them were deists. There's a significant difference.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • Flipped Out

      Eddie – What irritates me about people like you is that you characterize your religion as the only one worth practicing. It's apparently impossible to be kind and considerate to people, or to act in an otherwise "Christian manner", yet subscribe to a religion other than Christianity. I would have thought that one of the dimensions of your religion would be to respect that every person doesn't follow it. Don't be so self-important. You haven't got it all figured out, and while I don't practice your religion, you're hardly incenting me to consider a change.

      People can choose to patronize whatever stores they want. I just don't get why some feel compelled to wear their religion on their sleeve. Those who broadcast that some religious philosophy guides the way they run their operation are the same ones who believe that someone of a particular religious faith is the best candidate for the White House. They're blinded by their religious passion. Faithful? Yes. Scary? Absolutely.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Mikey

      My question would be if these companies are so overtly Christian, supply chaplains and the like, what is it like to be a non-Christian working there??? How do the non-believers get treated? After all the US is a nation where athiests have been known to pretend to be Christian in order for their families to avoid being ostracized.

      February 8, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
  9. D

    besides, Tyson's zingers are pretty good for frozen food

    February 7, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
  10. Marlye

    They forgot Home Depot. I don't do business with with the listed business anyway due to their religious affiliations. I don't support any Christian affiliation.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Jdubb

      Neither do I Marlye! All that "love thy neighbor as thyself" is BS anyway if you ask me!

      February 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I googled "home depot christian" and it appears that they are considered anti- christian...

      February 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • hahahaha

      As a Christian I find it funny, the people who are anti-Christian because they find us intolerant....do you purpsosely seek out businesses that practice Satanism, just to keep things balanced? LOL

      February 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • graceonfire

      Fight perceived intolerance with practiced intolerance, that's what I say! LOL Actually, people like me know that Christian businesses get discriminated against by people like you, so I go out of my way to shop there, or buy their products versus the other guys, who may be a few cents cheaper. Sometimes not. It kinda balances things out, you know? As for the other guys, if they get your business, let them absorb your hate and intolerance, too.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm |
    • carlinism

      Grace, Grace,Grace
      Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Charlatans like you all cast the same shadow. I wouldn't trust you any more than I'd trust one of your priests. Go to church,compare your clothing,be seen by others, give everybody those big hyperbole hugs. Just another phony trying to make people believe your a Christian. No such thing as a Christian. Just people like you that want to walk on water but don't know where the stumps are. But I don't mean to offend!

      February 13, 2011 at 6:15 am |
  11. D

    Don't hate, hombre, there are more things in life you should worry about than what the owners of Tyson believe in.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • kas

      This is the most sensible thing I've ever read posted. Thank you so much for being a voice of reason among all of this nonsense.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • K

      D...you are wise, and your wise words are appreciated.

      February 8, 2011 at 1:52 am |
  12. Tomboy

    I'm probably going to be blown off by them, but I'll say it anyway. Those that say they will cease doing business with companies that have Christian foundations are probably the same who say Christians are intolerant. But who's being intolerant now? I doubt their ranting represents the masses, and will likely have little effect.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • FatSean

      Christianity is bigotry at it's very core. You are threated with eternal damnation should you choose a different god or no god at all. Don't cry about people not being tolerant to christians my friend, you protest too much.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • Jeff B.

      I dont really understand the vitriol, Tomboy. Just because you refuse to support something, does not mean you are not tolerant of it. I think we ALL have the right to withdraw our support from ppl/causes with which we do not agree. If, let's say, Sears were to give gays a 10% discount, one could respond by not shopping at Sears (if they dont agree with Sears' support of gays), but, that is not intolerance – Intolerance would be to burn Sears down. We, in this country, have a long history of not supporting causes we dont believe in. Are you saying we dont have the right NOT to shop somewhere ? OR, are you saying that Walmart has the right to "spread the word" of that which they believe, but Walmart SHOPPERS dont ?

      February 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • AmazingSteve

      You wouldn't be being intolerant if you refused to use anything from a non-Christian. Just, you know, have fun without most of modern medicine.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    • jon

      Fat Sean. You got it wrong. Christ doesn't threaten. He tells the truth. You, like everybody else, dislike being told the truth when it doesn't serve our self-centered, brokenness. The stuff Christ said was extreme and revolutionary. And His words still generate more venom than any issue on the planet. Either he was right, or he was an absolute megalomaniac. Willingly dying on the cross, begging God to forgive us while still hanging on the cross doesn't sound like a megalomaniac to me. Christ was more intolerant than any professed Christian walking around today – just read Matthew 5 . The difference? His trust in God's sovereignty and command to love people anyway. It's mindblowing.

      February 8, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • AmazingSteve

      Hmm...

      I'm okay with the megalomaniac theory. Everyone else okay with the megalomaniac theory? Good. Now that that's dealt with, lets get back to the discussion.

      February 9, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  13. hombre8

    This is one of the many reasons I never shop at WalMart, and now, thanks to the article, will not consume Tyson chicken.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
    • John

      I think you should stop eating period. You never know what christian hands have touched the food your about to eat... hell a christian probably help built your house better get of there, I know the computer you are using is a PC and it probably went through my hands so you better turn that computer off and throw it away, again you never know....

      February 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • Alan the Chicken

      Better write and tell 'em so they'll give up all their personal beliefs. That's what America's all about right? Forcing people to think the way you do?

      Mmmm...chicken.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
    • hahahaha

      @Alan the Chicken – LOLLMAO!!!!!!! BTW, you're not related to Mike the Chicken, are you? We had him over for dinner the other night, and he never said a word about you. Not one peep...

      February 7, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • AmazingSteve

      @ Alan: America is all about speaking with your money. If you don't support the message that a company has taken it upon themselves to spread then no, you shouldn't support it with your money.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
  14. D

    The In-N-out in Vegas is delicious...

    February 7, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
  15. 47times

    And there isn't anything wrong with guns...only idiots like you I worry about owning a gun...

    February 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
  16. Samurai Cowboy response

    Okay, that is great, your choice. For every person holding your belief, there is at least one doing the opposite, so your actions do not really make a huge difference. I only ask this. Why are you so angry?

    February 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
  17. D

    lol

    February 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
  18. Valerie

    Walmart, gotta love a company that is proud of selling Christian books, but also guns and alcohol too (or was it just ammunition). I don't bother going to their book section, there's good there anyways. And In-N-Out, nothing says "God" like a dead cow.

    February 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
    • patches

      Yes, they sell alcohol. Not all religions have an issue with alcohol though, or amo for that matter.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
    • areligious

      I am almost certain, as are many other Christians who don't like to admit it, that Jesus would not be pleased with our infatuation with guns. Just sayin.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:22 pm |
    • Jaci

      I find it so funny that there are denominations of Christians who shun alcohol, but it was Jesus who turned water into wine.

      Go figure....

      February 11, 2011 at 11:56 am |
  19. Jon

    AWESOME!!! Now I know which companys to support!!!!! You guys realize the U.S military keeps chaplins on it's payroll, does that mean you anit religious freaks don't support the US military?

    February 7, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • Valerie

      There's more than just Christian chaplains in the US Military. Of course even if soldiers follow a religion, chaplains won't help them (I knew tons of pagan soldiers in the Army, and the chaplain refused to deal with them... Classy).

      February 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • Jon

      I was in the military OIF 06-07, and there were plenty of Chaplins willing to help anyone, regarless of the chaplins faith and the soldiers faith. I'm sorry your friends did not receive the faith based support they were searching for.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I'm "not American" (one definition of a Canadian) but do very much appreciate individual members of the military, US or otherwise. That being said, I don't support the wars in Iraq and Afganistan and believe the best way to support the troops there is to bring them home, immediately. And I don't think there should be chaplains in the military, but do understand they are a necessary evil to keep some members of the military fighting unjust if not illegal wars.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    • FatSean

      The military is murdering women and children in foreign lands, but they employ chaplains!

      Well, enjoy the VA care. I quit giving a damn about military people in 2003 when Iraq was invaded and I "didn't support the troops because I didn't support their mission". Fair enough. You're not protecting me by invading other nations, so uh, bye.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • Jon

      To our Canadian Friend, You do realize Canadain forces are still in Afganistan? They play a signifigant role in trainning troops. If it's so illegal why are other Nations such as yours also involved.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Jon

      FatSean, I'm sure your Al-Qaida brothers appreciate the comment!!!

      February 7, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
    • NOTHNNEW

      If we've learned anything, we should all know that a man or woman in uniform, i.e., chaplans, catholic, military, judge, etc., does not equate to a trustworthy measure of one's intent and, certainly, is NOT a true gage of honorability. In fact, you have to observe everything a person does; add it up; and taking the product of their pursuits into consideration, determine who they really are.

      Nonetheless, like so many other cultures, far too many – here in America – have, certainly, got it backwards; equating the uniform with the act, whereas, it's no more than a combination of cloths weaved together to conceal, in many cases, not just our private parts, but who we truly are indeed.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • Raevyn

      @ Jon...the Canadian troops in Afghanistan are there cleaning up the mess the Americans made and then abandoned. We're not happy about any of our troops being there at all but SOMEONE needs to clean up your mess. Perhaps if you had finished what you started there instead of illegally invading Iraq, our men and women would be home by now.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Jon

      Your right many in America do have it backwards with no respect for a uniform, whether it's the military, police, or fire and rescue. NOTHNNEW I hope you never need anyone in uniform's services. I'd rather be saved by an "untrustworthy" individual in uniform than die beside a coward.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
    • areligious

      You have no idea what you are talking about. Our military Chaplains do not prosthelytize, and must maintain every measure of religious neutrality when counseling others of different faith. Chaplains serve more than one role in the military. Though I do not support organized religion, I have sought council with chaplains more than once in my 19 year career as a military officer. The civilian world could learn a great deal from our chaplain model.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • areligious

      @NOTHNNEW As much as I hate to admit it (I am a military officer), you are absolutely correct. While uniformed service in the military does weed out many people with character issues, the public should never assume that a person is honorable because they wear a uniform. Character is indeed a sum of your life's actions and values. As you stated earlier, the same goes for religious figures, or any other persons of stature (Physicians, CEOs, etc...).

      February 7, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @Jon

      Yes, I know there are Canadian troops Afganistan and it does not make me happy – this is not our fight! Why are we and other countries there? Weak leadership that couldn't say no to your idiot Bush Jr.

      February 8, 2011 at 1:05 am |
    • Reality

      Our War on Terror and Aggression:

      An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

      The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent Body Count

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,481 and 924 died in non-combat98,691 – 107,707
      Iraqi civilians killed as of 11/9/2010, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and
      defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,116 killed in action, 902 killed in non-combat situations as of 08/10/2010. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15) Followed by the daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings every day in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      Continued below:
      Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

      -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,481 and 924 died in non-combat, 97,172 – 106,047 Iraqi civilians killed as of 8/10/2010 mostly due the Shiite and Sunni suicide bombers.

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,116 killed in action, 902 killed in non-combat situations as of 08/10/2010. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – Libya has become almost civil. Recently Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the victims of their terrorist activities. Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “cra-zies” as they have thre-atened Libya. OBL sure is a di-sgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!! Or is he???

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – Bin La-d-en has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.

      – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols will follow soon.

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.

      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      – And of course the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      February 8, 2011 at 11:55 am |
    • FatSean

      I am pretending to be an anti-war activist and saying things about military members. Aren't I clever!

      February 9, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
    • Russell

      Hey r\Reality, did you ever meet a hyphen you didn't like? outstanding.

      February 11, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • lavern

      I take it you don't support gay military members then? Single minded bigot.

      August 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • Susan

      I think the military chaplains are supposed to be non-denominational. This isn't about religion in general, just blatant Christianity.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  20. Rose77

    Christian? Walmart? You mean "can mouth the words and claim to be Christian".

    February 7, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • Raevyn

      If "Christian" means profiting by driving small businesses out of business, then, yup, Walmart's Christian. Way to go with that "do unto others" stuff.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
    • areligious

      Seems in line with what I see from the local "Christians" in Texas. Love thy neighbor until they threaten your prosperity, then all bets are off.

      February 7, 2011 at 9:08 pm |
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