Where was God in Aurora massacre?
Twelve crosses comprise a makeshift memorial near the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater, scene of last week’s mass shooting
July 24th, 2012
02:13 PM ET

Where was God in Aurora massacre?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Where was God in Aurora?

It’s a fresh take on an age-old question: Why does God allow suffering, natural disasters or - if you believe in it - evil?

We put the question to Twitter on Tuesday and got some starkly different responses.

“In short, God was in complete control, exercising His will,” wrote @PastorRileyF, who leads a church in Bethune, Colorado.

That riled @TheTrivia Jockey, who tweeted, “If that was God's will, God is definitely not deserving of my worship.”

Watch: Survivor of massacre says he forgives gunman

@trentpayne also took issue with the Colorado pastor: "I'm going to respectfully disagree with you Pastor. God gives free will to man, but it wasn't his will that they die."

The back-and-forth provoked other believers to chime in on the theological issue of God’s sovereignty vs. human free will, with many Christians seeking to explain how a sovereign God could preside over seemingly senseless bloodshed.

“It is not God's will or want that people died in Aurora,” wrote @GospelBluesman 20m. "God allowed man's inhumanity to man, rather than intervene.”

The conversation and debate continued in the comments section of this post, with some insinuating that the massacre might be a kind of divine punishment, or at lease divine neglect:

We as a country have been telling God to go away. We told him to get off our currency, get out of our schools, get out of our Pledge of Allegiance, take your Ten Commandments out of our courthouses, get those Bibles out of hotels and no graduation ceremonies in our churches. How can we expect God to give us his blessing and his protection if we demand that he leave us alone?

Jesse R
Liberals have made it impossible for God to be anywhere during the upbringing of a child. Can't have any religious connotations in schools, libraries, government offices, etc., etc. Young men (and women) are growing up with no real sense of right and wrong. ... We no longer have the right of religion, but rather the right from religion. Parents no longer have the ability to discipline their children. We are always looking for the excuses ... violent video games and movies, bad teachers and schools ... when we should be looking in the mirror. We as a society are the reasons these massacres happen. We have allowed our children to become social misfits that lead to the kind of carnage we have seen on several occasions since religion and God disappeared from what the Founding Fathers once said was a necessity of a successful democracy ... faith.

Lots of readers used religious takes on the shooting to challenge the whole idea of God:

Who invited me?
How do you know the people that were killed didn't go to hell?, and how exactly does any of this show there is a reason? Reason is obviously something that you have replaced with belief, and you threw out logic with it.

"God doesn't exist, so he wasn't anywhere. Get over it. A man was evil, and he was evil because he was crazy.

Plenty of others said the shooting was the devil's work:

Evil things like this happen because Satan is the god of this world ... for the time being. God will undo all the damage caused by Satan's rebellion and man's disobedience when the time is right. In the meantime we all experience trials and tribulation due to living in an ungodly world. That is why Jesus taught his followers the Lord's Prayer ... 'to pray for God's kingdom to come.'

What’s your take? Where was God in the Aurora massacre? Or do you feel that such tragedies are evidence for a godless universe?

Let us know in comments, and we’ll highlight the best ones.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: God • Violence

soundoff (10,690 Responses)
  1. Dave

    God where are you?

    July 24, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Yeah

      What a total dumbsh!t in that video. The people who free themselves of God are not the ones who wonder "where is god>"


      July 24, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  2. Christian

    If God struck Mr. Holmes dead in his tracks would he be a just God or a tyrant? He allows people to exercise their free will because He is not a puppet master. I'm guessing that it was the time to go for the people that died as well. If God knows you're saved now but won't be later on then sometimes he will allow you to die in order to let you live eternally. God works both ways though: if you still have a work to be done then God will preserve you so you may do it. Look at the girl who had a brain abnormality. That abnormality saved her life (and she just so happens to believe in, and worship, God). The bottom line is God never removes free will but He does work miracles when He deems the situation worthy of His intervention.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Don't you find it odd that Miracles always have a logical, factual, scientific explanation? How many diseases have you seen God cure that humans cannot?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Rick James

      What about the victims' free will? Did that not matter at all to God? And how it is a 6-year-old's time to go? She could've been somebody and God decided it was her "time to go". Hilarious if it weren't so sad.

      And that brain defect that saved that person's life was nothing more than just that, a defect. It was not God rewarding her for her service to him. In any other situation, it would be a defect, not a miracle.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  3. Scott

    Once again god demonstrates the he is either completely impotent or completely non existent

    July 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
  4. Kalan

    censored twice on this comment board

    July 24, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Helpful Hints


      Bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN automatic filter:
      Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
      You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters or some html tricks to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
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      who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
      There's another phrase that someone found, "wo-nderful us" (have no idea what sets that one off).

      July 24, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Yeah

      No human censor. A program won't let posts go up if they have naughty words in them, like ti.t (consti.tution), and c.um (circu.mstance).

      Find the naughty and do what I did. Or scream about a libtard press bias censorship conspiracy of your very very important posts, as some do.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • Yeah

      Well I lost that quick draw contest in a big way. Just drag my oozing corpse up to Boot Hill.

      Here lies Joe
      Way too slow

      July 24, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Kalan

      I can assure you that I didn't have any of these words in my two attempted posts.
      It talked about how bad this editorial is, guess that's why it got blocked twice.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Helpful Hints


      Nah, we worked together to slay the desperado of paranoia! Good job, pardner!

      July 24, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Helpful Hints


      Look over your post carefully again. I'm betting that a form of one of those fragments is in there... or maybe you'll find a new one. If so, let us know.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
  5. Colin

    This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:

    John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

    Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

    John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

    John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

    Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

    Mary: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

    Me: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

    John: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

    Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

    Me: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

    John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

    Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

    Mary: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the guts
    out of you."

    Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

    John: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

    Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

    John: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

    Me: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

    Mary: "Well, He gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

    Me: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

    John: "Hank has certain 'connections.'"

    Me: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

    John: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him..."

    Mary: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

    Me: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

    John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

    Me: "Who's Karl?"

    Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

    Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

    John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

    From the Desk of Karl
    1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
    2. Use alcohol in moderation.
    3. Kick the guts out of people who aren't like you.
    4. Eat right.
    5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
    6. The moon is made of green cheese.
    7. Everything Hank says is right.
    8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
    9. Don't use alcohol.
    10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
    11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the guts out of you.

    Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead." vein

    Mary: "Hank didn't have any paper."

    Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

    John: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

    Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

    Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

    Me: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the guts out of people just because they're different?"

    Mary: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

    Me: "How do you figure that?"

    Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

    Me: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

    John: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

    Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

    John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

    Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

    Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

    Me: "I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."

    John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

    Me: "We do?"

    Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

    Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

    John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

    Me: "But...oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"

    Mary: She blushes.

    John: "Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is wrong."

    Me: "What if I don't have a bun?"

    John: "No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."

    Me: "No relish? No Mustard?"

    Mary: She looks positively stricken.

    John: He's shouting. "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"

    Me: "So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"

    Mary: Sticks her fingers in her ears."I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la."

    John: "That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."

    Me: "It's good! I eat it all the time."

    Mary: She faints.

    John: He catches Mary. "Well, if I'd known you were one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the guts out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."

    With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.

    from Jhuger.com.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Peace2All


      LMFAO ! 😀 Thanks, dude... It's people like you and Bucky Ball, and some of my other cronies that help make it worthwhile being here, on the blogs.


      July 24, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
  6. Dave


    July 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  7. oh well

    what is up everyone?

    July 24, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Yeah

      Fight club, as usual.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      It seems that TOMG is our current resident religious idiot who doesn't seemed to have passed 1st grade.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
  8. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
  9. Sceptic

    What a presumptuous question. God was in the theatre helping some of the victims stay calm and think rationally; God rode with the police and ambulance crews as they did all they could to mitigate the damage. God sat with the families of the wounded and dead as they dealt with an impossible tragedy. And God sat with the suspect in his car offering strength and wisdom in place of chaos and destruction.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Peace2All


      What a 'presumptuous' response.


      July 24, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • Yeah

      So God was everywhere but the one place where he could have stopped it?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Dave

      Amen to sceptic. My understanding and belief is that although it hurts God what humans do to each other, he promised us free will and keeps his promises.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Anon

      Sceptic go throw yourself into a volcano.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
  10. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Yeah

      I have images of you typing by bashing your forehead into the keyboard frantically.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
  11. Colin

    Can a Christian please help me? I am having trouble distinguishing the third example of circular reasoning from the first two. Perhaps you can explain the difference.

    “I believe Obama is a great man because his biography says so, and the reason I believe his biography is that it is about Obama, who is a great man.”

    “I believe David Koresh was a wise and great prophet because the Branch Davidians wrote a book saying he is. I believe that book because it was inspired by David Koresh, a wise and great prophet.”

    “I believe God exists because it says so in the Bible. I believe the Bible because it is the inspired word of God.”

    July 24, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Alondra

      The Bible is a divinely written book inspired by the Word of GOD. A true christian must believe this with all of his heart and soul. You must have the Holy Spirit inside of you to feel the absolute realness and truth of GOD. It can't be explained any differently. When you know, you know. The Holy Spirit is like fire inside of you and will manifest itself to you in many ways. But you must have faith and believe. Pray very very very hard to GOD and HE will show you. I'll pray for you too. GOD Bless you and increase your faith in HIM

      July 24, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Anon

      Burning the bible gives me peace of mind.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Jason

      Colin, Christian here to help you. Every worldview reasons circularly, you just haven't realized it yet. All you need to do is question the ultimate normative. For example, if you are a rationalist, reason is the ultimate standard by which you judge the universe. If I were to ask you, "Why is reason the ultimate standard by which you judge all else?", if you were truly a rationalist your reply would be something to the effect of "Because I find it reasonable to do so." Ta-da! Circular reasoning! Have fun having your mind blown, you circular reasoner you!

      July 24, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Chad

      @Colin "“I believe God exists because it says so in the Bible. I believe the Bible because it is the inspired word of God.”"

      =>We believe in God because:
      1. His handiwork is everywhere, and unmistakable:
      –Origin of the universe
      –Origin of life on this planet
      –Supernatural involvement in the development of the complexity of life forms is reflected in the fossil record in the form of stasis and the sudden appearance of fully formed species (theistic evolution).
      –Universal understanding of right and wrong
      –Life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

      For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1

      2. The bible is a trustworthy and verifiable record of the history of Gods interaction with man. It is not solely a "revelation" that is not falsifiable, it has tens of thousands of historical facts that can all be verified. It claims to be non-fiction, and it is.
      You dont get to say that nothing in the bible is true because it purports to record the history of God and humanity, it needs to be critically examined.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:59 pm |
  12. This message is not 4U ...its AboutU

    our creator creates
    it's mankind that delineates
    that is called "free will"

    July 24, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Prove it.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • This message is not 4U ...its AboutU


      July 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Then your claim is meaningless.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
    • This message is not 4U ...its AboutU

      there is absolute proof that I have and can exercise my ->free will {:>))
      wanna banana?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • This message is not 4U ...its AboutU

      U doubt an intelligent universe that created you?
      lol! I do too! Hahahaha

      July 24, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      And what is free will, and which god are you talking about exactly. There's so many it's hard to keep track sometimes.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      If you're going to attempt to insult someone, you might want to make it somewhat coherent.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • This message is not 4U ...its AboutU

      Gods are for lower level beings, I see an intelligent cosmos that expresses itself in everything everyday Science tracking it though quantum states and deeper ...this is our source or trail to our creator. Ta Eso'

      July 24, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • This message is not 4U ...its AboutU

      I'm not insulting you ....

      July 24, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      And how would you measure that the universe is intelligent?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      I'm actually having trouble understanding exactly what it is you believe. Do you believe that the universe has it's own intelligence? Does it interfere daily in the lives of things on planets? What label would you put on your beliefs?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
  13. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Yeah

      Do you type with a hammer?

      July 24, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Peace2All


      LOL ! 😀


      July 24, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
  14. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
  15. ArthurP

    Lets see:

    1 God has a plan and therefor it was his wish that they were killed, or
    2 God has a plan and a mere mortal has the power to screw with it, or
    3 God does not have a plan and just lets the chips fall where they may, or
    4 there is no God.

    OK people which is it?

    July 24, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Colin

      That would be......4

      July 24, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Alondra

      The Bible is a divinely written book inspired by the Word of GOD. A true christian must believe this with all of his heart and soul. You must have the Holy Spirit inside of you to feel the absolute realness and truth of GOD. It can't be explained any differently. When you know, you know. The Holy Spirit is like fire inside of you and will manifest itself to you in many ways. But you must have faith and believe. Pray very very very hard to GOD and HE will show you. I'll pray for you too.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • someone

      I believe it's #2. For those of us that believe in God and in sin, every time someone sins, they are going against God's plan. As a result, things happen in the world every day that aren't anywhere close to God's plan, and this world is fundamentally broken. So why does God let that happen? Because (I believe) the alternative is that he makes us all robots, unable to choose whether or not to follow him. Love can't exist without free will. God chose free will over a sin-free world because that's the only way that any of us can choose to love him. God values free will to the extent that he will let us choose to reject him and go to hell, even though that wasn't part of his plan either.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • ArthurP


      You did not answer the simple question but as usual when confronted with logic the believers ramble, on and on and on .....

      July 24, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • ArthurP


      OK so he had a plan that Y would have children and Y's children would have children etc so along comes X and kills Y what happens to all those souls that God had planed out ? Does he just redo the overall plan. Doing that must keep him very busy.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Alondra

      @ArthurP... My bad, I posted my reply to the wrong comment somehow. I re-posted my response to the corrcet person who asked for help.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      " God values free will to the extent that he will let us choose to reject him and go to hell, even though that wasn't part of his plan either."

      Wait a minute - I thought that this "God" was supposed to be All-Knowing (knew you before your mother's womb, etc.). If so, "He" knew what everyone's choice would eventually be... and "created" them anyway. Certainly this is not All-Loving, nor All-Just.

      If "His" plan can be thwarted and changed by others - "He" is not All-Powerful either.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  16. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  17. Kaylen

    God wasn't able to help because he busy helping the millions of starving children in Afri... oh wait. Never mind.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
  18. TOMG


    July 24, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
  19. Alondra

    GOD is omnipresent, he is everywhere. His heart bleeds as HE watches HIS creation destroy themselves, then because of a lack of knowledge, blame HIM for their destruction. The world is letting the devil and it's demons rule them. GOD has allowed man to have a free will and make his own decisions so that we might realize that we need him and can't maike it without HIM. It's proven true that we/man always, time afer time after time ruin everything and everyone around us. The Bible says that it rains on the just and the unjust. Because of this continued increase in evil doing, doubt will also increase, causing many to lose faith in GOD. BUT in the end, HE WILL SHOW UP and reclaim what is HIS, with great might, and at the name of JESUS every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of GOD the Father.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      So, he supposedly dropped a dude on earth for 30 years out of tens of thousands of years of human history? And you're seriously going to wait around until he decides to give that another spin? I think I'll pass.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Peace2All


      Yes... can't wait for the 'end' when loving jesus transforms into warrior jesus and comes down from the heaven's to destroy everyone forever, who, well... just didn't believe... no matter how good they were, and their incredible acts of kindness and love.

      Yes, nice *belief* system ya' got there, -Alondra ! 😯


      July 24, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • Alondra

      @exlonghorn... sorry i accidentally reported abuse on you. tyrign to reply

      July 24, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Thanks for being honest and upfront about that. I respect that.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
  20. Questioning God

    But God operates on a higher plane of justice than mortals understand. You expect God to obey your sense of justice. But he doesn't have to obey you you're supposed to obey him.

    July 24, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Alondra


      July 24, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • That's nonsense.

      A higher plane of morality? Right and wrong don't matter to him, being good or evil does not matter to him; the only thing he cares about it that you belief in him and obey. That doesn't sound like superior morality or justice to me. His behavior in the Old Testament is hardly "higher justice".

      July 24, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • KFTXBU

      This comment is a shinning example of what is wrong with this country.

      July 24, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
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