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Where was God in Aurora massacre?
Twelve crosses comprise a makeshift memorial near the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater, scene of last week’s mass shooting
July 24th, 2012
02:13 PM ET

Where was God in Aurora massacre?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Where was God in Aurora?

It’s a fresh take on an age-old question: Why does God allow suffering, natural disasters or - if you believe in it - evil?

We put the question to Twitter on Tuesday and got some starkly different responses.

“In short, God was in complete control, exercising His will,” wrote @PastorRileyF, who leads a church in Bethune, Colorado.

That riled @TheTrivia Jockey, who tweeted, “If that was God's will, God is definitely not deserving of my worship.”

Watch: Survivor of massacre says he forgives gunman

@trentpayne also took issue with the Colorado pastor: "I'm going to respectfully disagree with you Pastor. God gives free will to man, but it wasn't his will that they die."

The back-and-forth provoked other believers to chime in on the theological issue of God’s sovereignty vs. human free will, with many Christians seeking to explain how a sovereign God could preside over seemingly senseless bloodshed.

“It is not God's will or want that people died in Aurora,” wrote @GospelBluesman 20m. "God allowed man's inhumanity to man, rather than intervene.”

The conversation and debate continued in the comments section of this post, with some insinuating that the massacre might be a kind of divine punishment, or at lease divine neglect:

Lenny
We as a country have been telling God to go away. We told him to get off our currency, get out of our schools, get out of our Pledge of Allegiance, take your Ten Commandments out of our courthouses, get those Bibles out of hotels and no graduation ceremonies in our churches. How can we expect God to give us his blessing and his protection if we demand that he leave us alone?

Jesse R
Liberals have made it impossible for God to be anywhere during the upbringing of a child. Can't have any religious connotations in schools, libraries, government offices, etc., etc. Young men (and women) are growing up with no real sense of right and wrong. ... We no longer have the right of religion, but rather the right from religion. Parents no longer have the ability to discipline their children. We are always looking for the excuses ... violent video games and movies, bad teachers and schools ... when we should be looking in the mirror. We as a society are the reasons these massacres happen. We have allowed our children to become social misfits that lead to the kind of carnage we have seen on several occasions since religion and God disappeared from what the Founding Fathers once said was a necessity of a successful democracy ... faith.

Lots of readers used religious takes on the shooting to challenge the whole idea of God:

Who invited me?
How do you know the people that were killed didn't go to hell?, and how exactly does any of this show there is a reason? Reason is obviously something that you have replaced with belief, and you threw out logic with it.

Kyle
"God doesn't exist, so he wasn't anywhere. Get over it. A man was evil, and he was evil because he was crazy.

Plenty of others said the shooting was the devil's work:

Harleyxx
Evil things like this happen because Satan is the god of this world ... for the time being. God will undo all the damage caused by Satan's rebellion and man's disobedience when the time is right. In the meantime we all experience trials and tribulation due to living in an ungodly world. That is why Jesus taught his followers the Lord's Prayer ... 'to pray for God's kingdom to come.'

What’s your take? Where was God in the Aurora massacre? Or do you feel that such tragedies are evidence for a godless universe?

Let us know in comments, and we’ll highlight the best ones.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: God • Violence

soundoff (10,690 Responses)
  1. Salero21

    ONE NATION UNDER GOD'S JUDGMENT!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Just this nation? Or did you mean the whole world? Or....?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • Salero21

      God's Judgments sometimes appear slow, other times are quick.

      So G. Zeus; What part of ONE don't you understand?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
  2. onevoice

    I'm always saddened by such tragedies not only because they happen but because of the desperate attempts to try and explain the why of it. The churches have done a real disservice to people because they claim such senseless violence must be part of God's plan. Well, if that were true, God would be more reprehensible then the man who did the shooting. 1 John 4:8 says that "God is love". A God of love would not condemn murder and violence and then turn around and cause it. The churches have misrepresented the actual teachings in the Bible to support their own doctrine and agenda. In turn this has created a mire of conflicting doctrines that are not based on the scriptures and leave people groping in times like this for meaning. The other half have rejected religion all together because they see the contradiction and hypocrisy and reason (and I might add reasonably so) that they don't want to worship or believe in a god like that. But, please, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater! Read the Bible for yourself. It reveals a loving God who is just as disgusted with this world as your are. A God who is hurt by the suffering and violence and has every intention of correction all the wrong that has been done. Read Psalm 37, Isaiah 11, Revelation 21: 2-4. God does not predestine these things.....would you? Though we are created with freewill, will he let humans run amok forever? No. Like any good parent He will intervene and correct all the evil Satan has wrought on the human family. There are big issues here at stake. Just please don't rant on about God and the Bible if you have never read it for yourself. I understand that people are bitter about a lot of things, but for your own sake, go back to the beginning and start over. The answers are there to be found in the Bible. Proverbs 2. Time and space don't permit it here but trust that they are there if you just look.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
  3. Salero21

    "Where was God in Aurora massacre?"

    This is the type of questions simpletons and fools ask.

    God was and is, where He has always been and where He will be for Eternity; In Heaven!

    Heaven is where God is, where God is, that's Heaven!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      RIGHT! And "god" wants us all to hurry up and get to "heaven" so "god" just randomly kills us off in terrorist attacks! Amen!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      Circular statements are circular.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Salero21

      Only fools, simpletons and the uninformed believe that everyone who dies goes to Heaven. Not so!

      Sorry to bring you such bad news.

      However that's part of the Good News that those who believe in Christ Jesus are the ones who do got to Heaven when and if they die.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • Get Real

      Salero21: "those who believe in Christ Jesus are the ones who do got to Heaven when and if they die."

      And your verified evidence that this occurs is....?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      What do you mean IF they die?! IDIOT! Everyone dies! Everything changes state. All matter decays. Why should matter involved in a life form be any different? IDIOT!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
  4. JazzyMom

    Jesus said "Blessed are those who have not yet seen me"

    July 24, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • ThinkingMan

      Now there's a truly lazy answer.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      And blessed are those who never will...

      July 24, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
  5. GOD PARTICLE UK Dave

    WE'RE RECLAIMING OUR LIVES!
    What are you reclaiming?
    See how easily I settle out of court!
    WE'RE RECLAIMING OUR LIVES!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
  6. donna rochester

    The bible says "the rain falls on the just and the unjust." I take this to mean there is a randomness to the universe that can't be explained and no one is imune to misfortune. People look for meaning where there is no meaning, but if it brings them peace then where is the harm.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • ThinkingMan

      Actually that's just a rationalization to maintain your facade.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Beloved4ever

      Rain signifies a 'good' thing...blessings. So the verse 'it rains on the just and the unjust' is a demonstration of the Grace of God. Grace – is the undeserved, unmerited, favor of God. Look at the previous verse...'he cause the sun to rise on the good and the evil. He sends rain on the just and the unjust'. He is a Good God and His mercy endures forever. And He will get the glory out of any and every situation...no matter what.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  7. JazzyMom

    How could someone deny existence of God without being mentally ill? Seriously....

    July 24, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      How could someone believe in something for which there is no evidence without being mentally ill?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • JazzyMom

      There are enough historical and scientific evidence that Jesus and God exists.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      There is no scientific evidence Jesus existed or was god. The historical evidence is sketchy at best.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:29 pm |
    • Chad

      well said JazzyMom!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • ThinkMan

      Dude, you have it backwards.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      SCIENTIFIC evidence?!?! Such as?!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Chad

      a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship, Bart Ehrman wrote: "He[Jesus] certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees" B. Ehrman, 2011

      ^ Van Voorst, Robert E (2000). Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence. Eerdmans Publishing. ISBN 0-8028-4368-9 page 16 states that modern scholarship views the theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • LinCA

      @JazzyMom

      You said, "There are enough historical and scientific evidence that Jesus and God exists."
      Please do share.

      I'm not asking for much. Just one tiny little piece of evidence that hints at there being gods. It doesn't even have to be yours.

      Please put up, or shut the fuck up.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • Chad

      Modern cosmology is in agreement that a force external to our current time/space universe "triggered" the formation of our current universe.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Chad: So what if it is? Does that necessarily have to be "god"? H&LL NO!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • Eric

      Look either way it comes down to belief, non believers still believe what they are saying with out one single piece of evidence to their claims. And they will never be able to produce any.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Eric

      You said, "Look either way it comes down to belief, non believers still believe what they are saying with out one single piece of evidence to their claims."
      The only claim that I make is that I haven't seen any evidence to believe there are any gods. There isn't anything to prove.

      There isn't any belief on my part, only disbelief. Unless there is evidence for the ludicrous claims of believers, you have to be complete and utterly deluded to believe them. I simply reject those claims as the garbage that they are.

      You said, "And they will never be able to produce any."
      I'll never be able to prove there aren't any gods. That's why I don't dismiss the possibility. No matter how ridiculously small.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • ArthurP

      Where is his arrest record? Where is his trial transcript? Where is his long form birth certificate? Where is one single piece of any record from the period of his life that mentions him? He was a major rabble rouser but there is not a single piece of evidence of him from the year he was born to the year he died. It all comes in the decades after.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Eric

      @LinCA I used to say the same things, then I decided to find out for myself istead of listening to self important people who think their intelect id a god. I read, studied, watched, listened and what I found is. The only logical conclusion is that GOD exists. I wish there was a different forum to discuss this typing is slow (and Im bad). I cant at this moment provide imperical evidemce. But I can answer questuions if you have any. Do I have all the answers no would I ever default to GOD did it, Well maybe once or twice one being creation but we will most likely never be able to observe anyway.

      July 25, 2012 at 12:00 am |
    • LinCA

      @Eric

      I've heard the stories too. They are, without fail, unconvincing. There is no way that you can get at a position that shows there are gods without starting off from that position.

      So, if you have something that I haven't seen or heard, please share. If you have a link to a website that describes what you wish to say, that will be fine too.

      July 25, 2012 at 12:08 am |
  8. JazzyMom

    Crosses should be in every single public place. It symbolizes faith, love and hope.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Wrong. The cross was a method of torturous execution used by the Romans.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Jesus said "come follow me", he never said "come worship me".

      July 24, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      I donate money to organizations that fight people like you.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
    • Eric

      Crosses were symbols well before the Roman Empire. Funny how GOD uses symbolism if you have eyes to see. The Egyptions Had the ANKH cross(not christanity) which symbolized eternal life it is usally seen being held by one of the many Egyption gods. Funny that Christ was on a cross to brings us eternal life.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Who cares who can claim the "cross" first?! Gee, a caveman picks up a stick and scratches intersecting.....mind you, perpendicular.....lines in the sand! BIG DEAL!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • Eric

      I guess irony and symbolism was missed there.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
  9. Answer

    My favorite is : "Please try my brand of r-e-t-a-r-d."

    July 24, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
  10. KMA

    This is what I believe, every bit of it backed by with scriptural proof. This is a devastating loss of life and a loving God does not forget people like the Aurora victims... It is a travesty for a Minister/Pastor to say that God took these people from their families. Death was never in the original purpose for the Earth. If it was, why do we people have a natural desire to live?
    I borrowed this info because I can't put it better than this...

    I'm not looking for nasty remarks back, just sharing my thoughts/ beliefs. If you want to know fine, otherwise please feel free to not continue reading.

    If God is loving, just, and powerful, why are we surrounded by evil? One common misperception needs to be cleared up first. Many people think of Almighty God as the ruler of this world, the one who is in direct control of everything. Does the Bible really teach that?
    Not at all... the Bible actually says who rules the world. 1 John 5:19 states: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” Jesus Christ identified the wicked one as Satan the Devil, whom he called “the ruler of the world.” (John 14:30) Satan is cruel, deceptive, and hateful—traits that underlie much of the suffering that people experience.
    Being a generous God, Jehovah gave Adam and Eve a beautiful garden home with all its delicious fruits. Only one tree was out of bounds for them—“the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.” By not eating from this tree, Adam and Eve would demonstrate their full trust in their Father, recognizing that he had the right to decide what was good and bad for his children.—Genesis 2:16, 17.
    Sadly, though, one of God’s spirit sons, motivated by the desire to be worshipped, told Eve that if she ate the forbidden fruit, she would not die. (Genesis 2:17; 3:1-5) Thus, this wicked angel, Satan, blatantly contradicted God, essentially calling him a liar! Satan also went on to accuse God of withholding vital knowledge from Adam and Eve. Humans, Satan implied, should be able to decide for themselves what is good and what is bad. Simply put, Satan accused God of being an unfit Ruler and Father and implied that he, Satan, could do a better job.
    By means of those cunning and malicious lies, the angel made himself Satan the Devil. These names mean “Resister” and “Slanderer.” What did Adam and Eve do? They sided with Satan, turning their backs on God.—Genesis 3:6.
    Jehovah could have destroyed the rebels on the spot. But, such issues cannot be settled by violent retaliation. Keep in mind too that when Satan challenged God, millions of angels were listening. In fact, a significant, but undisclosed, number later joined Satan in his rebellion, making themselves demons.—Mark 1:34; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6.
    Why Has God Not Intervened?
    By seducing Adam and Eve into choosing independence from their Creator, in effect, Satan founded a family that was not truly independent but under his authority. Influenced, knowingly or unknowingly, by their “father,” the Devil, this family would choose its own goals and standards of conduct. (John 8:44) But would that way of life bring them true freedom and lasting happiness? Jehovah knew full well that it would not. Still, he allowed the rebels to pursue their independent course, for only in this way would the issues raised in Eden be fully settled for all time.
    For over 6,000 years now, mankind has built a world system, trying all kinds of rulership and codes of conduct. But, is the human family truly happy, peaceful, and united? Clearly, the answer is no! Instead, wars, famines, natural disasters, sickness, and death have plagued mankind, causing “futility,” “pain,” and “groaning,” just as the Bible states.—Romans 8:19-22; Ecclesiastes 8:9.
    Still, some may ask, ‘Why has God not prevented tragedies?’ Really, that would be an injustice, and it would cloud the issue by making it seem that rebelling against God is without consequence. Hence, Jehovah has not been behind the scenes preventing all the crimes and tragedies that result, directly or indirectly, from disobedience to him. Jehovah God would never be party to the harmful lie that Satan’s system can succeed, that it has found the key to happiness! Nevertheless, God has not been indifferent to events. Since the rebellion in Eden, he has been very busy. For instance, he inspired Bible writers to record his promise that a future “seed” would crush Satan and all who stuck with him. (Genesis 3:15) Additionally, by means of that Seed, God would form a government, a heavenly Kingdom, that would bless obedient humans and end all causes of suffering, even death itself.—Genesis 22:18; Psalm 46:9; 72:16; Isaiah 25:8; 33:24; Daniel 7:13, 14.
    As a step in the fulfillment of those wonderful promises, Jehovah sent to the earth the One who would become the primary Ruler of that Kingdom. This one was none other than Jesus Christ, the Son of God. (Galatians 3:16) In accord with God’s purpose for him, Jesus focused his teaching on God’s Kingdom. (Luke 4:43) In fact, Christ provided a living preview of what he will accomplish as King of that Kingdom. He fed hungry thousands, healed the sick, resurrected the dead, and even showed his power over the natural elements by calming a violent storm. (Matthew 14:14-21; Mark 4:37-39; John 11:43, 44) Concerning Jesus, the Bible states: “No matter how many the promises of God are, they have become Yes by means of him.”—2 Corinthians 1:20.
    Mankind, alienated from God and misled by Satan, has built a world system that breeds more and more misery and hopelessness. Even the earth itself is being ruined...

    July 24, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • Answer

      Such crap.. and you want to rely on that. Cool.

      Let me continue to laugh. XD

      July 24, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • anniem

      The only part of the bible actually written by GOD was the ten commandments. The rest is just hearsay...

      July 24, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • John

      You thumpers never seem to realize that quoting the bible doesn't prove anything.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Sorry anniem,
      He didn't even write those. They came, word for word from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

      As for "scriptural proof... any claim about biblical concepts supported with the bible is by definition circular (logic). So, you just wasted your time with all that crap. Every line in the bible is sourced by scholars, and they what what set of humans cooked it up, and why.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • Think-About-It

      "You thumpers never seem to realize that quoting the bible doesn't prove anything."

      Oh, it does! It proves that God's Word is right when it says that you are a fool !

      July 25, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
  11. Atheism = Cult

    Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:

    † Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.
    † Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
    † Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet atheists)
    † Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
    † Atheists are misguided and causes problem in our religious & public society.
    † Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
    † Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
    † Atheism making you agree with Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler (denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders who killed religious people because of their religious cult!
    † No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
    † Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
    † Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
    † Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
    † Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
    † Most atheists are uneducated... No atheists could run for presidency.
    † Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
    † Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
    † All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
    † The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
    † Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
    **Only 2-3% of the U.S. are atheists/agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**

    † † Our Prayers goes to atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †

    PS! the USA is a † nation and will always be. You know it's true and stop being ignorant and arrogant!
    (Take a look at our federal/state holidays, 99% of our presidents, blue laws in parts of the nation, the majority of people, some laws, calendar, culture, etc.)..
    http://rightremedy.org/tracts/7

    July 24, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      Replace "atheism" with "religion" or "christianity" etc.... and you'll get the same thing

      July 24, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • Papa

      Actually pal, some of the worst atrocities inflicted on mass numbers of people in our history were done so in the name of religion, ESPECIALLY in the name of Christianity. Read a history book sometime.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
    • ThinkingMan

      Talk about insecure in your beliefs. Such a hate filled and fallacious string accusations you make. One could easily replace Athiest with Fundamentalist and find more truth.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • Ms Galaxy

      But the... And then there's... And there you say... Ah, forget it. I have no words.

      July 25, 2012 at 5:23 am |
  12. USA

    Never ever doubt God.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • ThinkingMan

      Why? Can't stand truth?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • Ms Galaxy

      Doubting!

      July 25, 2012 at 11:36 am |
  13. FelixF

    Regardless of the veracity of the gospel in the Bible, a neighborhood where most people believe and try to practice Jesus' teachings is much safer than any neighborhood where no one believes in Jesus' teachings and where most people would do the opposite of what Jesus preached in order to take advantage from others.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
  14. G. Zeus Kreiszchte

    Where was "god" on 9-11? Is "god" not American? Or is "god" not really christian?

    Where was "god" when Jared Loughner went a-shootin? Was "god" a Republican? Or did "god" just hate Arizona or one of its Democrat politicians?

    Where was "god" when David Berkowitz went a-shootin? Or the Texas A&M tower shooter? Or the DC sniper? Or.....?

    "god" is a fvkiing lame-@$$, impotent REEEETARD!!!!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
  15. palespyder

    Jesus will fix a Christian's car for them, but a starving child in Africa, cannot be bothered.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
  16. Lot

    Some ten million children under the age of five die painfully in poverty every year in the developing world. They die in many of the most intensely religious places on Earth. Their mothers pray for them as they suffer in agony for days, weeks, months before finally dying.

    If a "good and loving god" exists he would have to ease this immense suffering, if not stop it. But it goes on, day after day. Religious people blame it on some guy who bit a piece of fruit thousands of years ago. They excuse it because we "choose" to let these children die with our free will, they claim.

    None of these excuses hold up to honest, sensible analysis. A good and loving being would not–could not–do nothing.

    Either your god is not the love-filled being you claim he is, or he simply does not exist.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
    • Beloved4ever

      My God lives in Me...we (believers) are supposed to the Body of Christ. We are his feet ( carry the gospels), we are His hands ( feed the poor and care for the sick). Now if the whole world accepted believed the Gospel of Christ ( the good news). Then His kingdom come and His will would be done here on earth as it is in heaven. Don't you understand...where there is poverty, hate, sickness, death, disease, pain and suffering.....there is an absence of God (Faith).

      July 24, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
  17. Faith

    Wow! I say for those of you that do not believe in God, that is your perogative.

    My question is, Why do you get defensive and make fun of those of us who do believe in God? Do you believe in satan?

    My favorite saying is.... Try Jesus, if you dont' like it, the devil will always take you back!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • palespyder

      What you "always say" is the reason we make fun of you. Your reasoning is ridiculous, your justifications are wrong, and your dogma is outdated. Thank you come again.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:17 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      NO....those of us who don't believe in fairy tale "gods" also do not believe in fairy tale bogeymen......

      BUT YOU DO!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      I make fun of people who place less weight on repeatedly demonstrated scientific methods than a 2,000 year old, anonymously-written book that describes humans as originating from ribs and snakes, where physical strength is derived from hair, people disappear from tombs through reincarnation, rivers are parted at a whim, staffs turn into snakes, floating zoos repopulate the world, demon pigs, and spontaneous combustion. Do you really wonder why???

      July 24, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      I make fun of people who place less weight on repeatedly demonstrated scientific methods than a 2,000 year old, anonymously-written book that describes humans as originating from ribs and snakes, where physical strength is derived from hair, people disappear from tombs through reincarnation, rivers are parted at a whim, staffs turn into snakes, floating zoos repopulate the world, demon pigs, and spontaneous combustion. Do you really wonder why??? Really???

      July 24, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
    • Faith

      @Palesspyder Notice Christians do not make fun of you, and your reasoning is ridiculous and your justifications are wrong. I just find it interesting you guys make fun and are rude to Christians, for what reason? Oh yea! "what we always say". Really? That's pathetic!

      @Zeus You are correct. I do believe in God <3

      @exlonghorn Why make fun? Do you make fun of everything that doesn't suit you?

      Why does it bother you guys what we say and do? It is obvioulsy no concern of yours. If you think we are stupid and dislusional, why do you bother replying to our posts? You claim to be the smarter ones, why bother with us Jesus Freaks? Stay with your own flock!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  18. Salero21

    God is in HEAVEN and Heaven is where God is.

    But on earth we have here one nation under God's Judgment!

    July 24, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • Answer

      Keep going. You're a few thousand pages short of a bible.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  19. Jesus is not god

    Questions.
    If a so called god named jesus lived and he died for our sins when will he die again for my sins? i have sinned, Alot i need a cleansing, i liked the passion of the christ movie i could use some entertainment that i would be happy to pay to see in real life, jesus getting what he deserves for the atrocities in africa and the middle east not to mention the hell of latin america. That would be worth my 10%
    2. If the same jesus we speak about gave us free will to see how we handle such a thing right? and yet he is supposed to know everything in advance how could it be free will? its like he knows the end of the movie before he watches it but expects a different ending that is the definition of lunacy.

    Comment
    Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. Sounds familiar
    Dictatorships like saddam kim jon il stalin etc etc which brings me to my point dictators and powerful families wrote the bible

    July 24, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
  20. Salero21

    Not a difficult or impossible question to answer.

    God is where He always has been and where He will be for all of Eternity.

    July 24, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
    • Answer

      No quotes? How hilarious is that? LOL

      July 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Answer

      Did you run out already?

      July 24, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • Salero21

      Job 5:3 I myself have seen a fool taking root, but suddenly his house was cursed.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Salero21

      Pr. 18:2 A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      You'll get your "quotes" crammed down your throat when you find yourself in chains in satan's pit. Hell is a real place, buster, and it ain't no amusement place there!

      July 24, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Freddiefranklins

      @ Answer: Says the human who believes in nothing and thinks that the universe and all living things just popped out of thin air one day.............. now that makes sense!
      Why is Christianity always the major target of atheists? If you don’t believe in anything, then why waste your time with people who believe we are not the smartest and most powerful forms of energy in the universe.
      The laws that have this wacko confined away from society right now are laws that are based off of religious values. They are the basis of what you follow whether you like it or not, otherwise you would be in jail and not posting on her. I am not speaking for any religion, I'm just trying to understand how someone or group could think we are all that ever was and is.

      July 24, 2012 at 11:25 pm |
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