July 25th, 2012
04:35 AM ET

Belief Blog's Morning Speed Read for Wednesday, July 25

By Laura Koran, CNN

Here's the Belief Blog’s morning rundown of the top faith-angle stories from around the United States and around the world. Click the headlines for the full stories.

From the Blog:

CNN: Where was God in Aurora massacre?
Where was God in Aurora? It’s a fresh take on an age-old question: Why does God allow suffering, natural disasters or – if you believe in it – evil? We put the question to Twitter on Tuesday and got some starkly different responses.

CNN: Philly priest gets 3 to 6 years in abuse case
The highest-ranking Catholic Church cleric charged and convicted in the landmark Philadelphia child sexual abuse trial was sentenced to three to six years in prison Tuesday. Monsignor William Lynn, 61, was found guilty in June of one count of child endangerment, the first time a U.S. church leader has been convicted of such a charge.

CNN: Henson, Huckabee take sides in Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy
The comments about same-sex marriage made by Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy a week ago continue to generate controversy this week, with politicians and puppets, well at least their handlers, weighing in. "Guilty as charged," Cathy was quoted as saying in the Baptist Press last week when asked about his company's support of the traditional family unit as opposed to same-sex marriage.

CNN: 10 religious companies (besides Chick-fil-A)
As the controversy over Chick-fil-A’s founder publicly opposing same-sex marriage continues – Mike Huckabee is pushing for a Chick-fil-A day, while the Jim Henson Co. is cutting ties to the chain – we’re republishing our list of 10 other religious companies. Our initial list was provoked by an earlier Chick-fil-A/same-sex marriage controversy. Is our list missing any names? Tweet us at @CNNBelief to let us know.

Tweet of the Day:

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Enlightening Reads:

The Washington Post: Religious leaders speak of the evolution of church’s role on HIV
For many years, Kay Warren was a good wife, mother and church member, but she “just didn’t care about HIV.” That changed a decade ago, after she read an article about people in Africa with the disease. She took up the cause, and now the church she co-founded with her husband Rick, the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., is deeply involved in AIDS ministry domestically and abroad.

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency: How the Munich 11 petition went viral
It began two years ago as an idea by volunteers at a suburban Jewish community center and turned into a major international campaign, galvanizing everyone from President Obama to the mayor of London.

The Los Angeles Times: Scientology did not violate forced labor law, appeals court rules
Scientology did not violate a labor law by failing to pay for the work of two former members of the church’s Sea Organization - a wing that restricts participants’ outside communications, marriage and children, censors mail and monitors phone calls - a federal appeals court said Tuesday. A three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decided that Marc and Claire Headley, who sued the church, knew that joining the group, known as Sea Org, required largely unpaid labor and failed to take many opportunities to leave.

U.S. Catholic: CRS says funding for humanitarian aid did not violate church teaching
Catholic Relief Services said that $5.3 million in emergency funding it provided to the humanitarian organization CARE in 2010 under a U.S. government grant did not violate Catholic teaching. In postings on its website July 20 and July 24, the U.S. bishops' international development and relief agency explained that the money it provided to CARE was specifically used for water and sanitation and food and nutrition programs for poor families in Central America and Africa and could not be transferred to other services which CARE provided.

The Christian Post: Court Rules Against Wis. School District That Held Graduations in Church
An appeals court ruled against a Wisconsin school district over its usage of a church building to hold graduations due to a lack of space in public school facilities. The full court of the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday that by holding some graduations at a church full of religious imagery, Elmbrook School District was unlawfully endorsing a religion.

Quote of the Day:

In Christianity we call it prevenient grace: God working ahead of time for a particular event in the future. It's just like the God I follow to plan the route of a bullet through a brain long before Batman ever rises. Twenty-two years before.

Brad Strait, senior pastor at Cherry Creek Presbyterian Church in Englewood, Colorado, wrote on his blog about the incredible case of Petra Anderson. Anderson sustained multiple gunshot wounds, including one to the head, in last week’s shooting in Aurora, Colorado, but survived in part because of a brain abnormality that wasn’t even aware she had.

Opinion of the Day:

CNN: My Take: Why is NCAA taking sex abuse more seriously than Catholic Church?
Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define a Nation," ponders this question.

The New York Times: The Freedom of the Hijab
Ayesha Nusrat, a 23 year-old Muslim woman in New Delhi writes about her decision to start wearing the hijab, and how that decision has been “the most liberating experience ever.”

Join the conversation…

CNN: My Faith: How Hajj gave us a child
As our family has been getting ready for Ramadan and I look at my daughter I'm reminded of our Hajj trip and how it completed our family. I didn't fully realize the impact that Hajj would have on our family's life. It not only gave us a spiritual awakening but also brought a child, our child, into our lives. For Muslims, the chance to perform Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca, is one of the greatest expressions of our faith.

- CNN's Laura Koran

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  1. Tennille Ohmen

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    February 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm |
  2. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    July 26, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!|

      July 27, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  3. Lobito724

    I used to work at Chick-Fil-A in my college days. I still consider my Chick-Fil-A co-workers as second family and have continued great friendships with many of them. That includes straight and gay alike. Chick-Fil-A does not discriminate against anyone. Dan Cathy is permitted to have his own beliefs and opinions, as we are permitted to have our own. Go back and read the interview. It was not a hate filled speech by Cathy. He was stating what he believed in, plain and simple. Just because someone personally doesn't agree with living a gay lifestyle doesn't mean they are a bigot or a hateful person. Whatever happened to we can agree to disagree and move on with it!

    July 26, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  4. mountainmama82

    When will you ever understand that there is a God. But he is mean, evil. vindictive and petty. He enjoys all the suffering of the fools that worship him .They re just like him. Religion itself is evil. When is the last time you saw the acts of a Christian at any level actual do what Christ said? Turn the other cheek and love your neigbor! And why do the survivors say God saved them? Like all the other were somehow not worthy to be saved including a 6 year old girl. What sin did she commit?

    July 25, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • Rouser1

      We are all sinners in the eyes of God. He is more interested in what we become rather than what we do. Our journey is to strive to be more Christlike. I don't profess to know why a six year old girl had to die. But just maybe, she was the one that was saved and now sitting in Heaven.

      July 27, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Shari S

      With all due respect, I totally disagree with your description of God being cruel and mean. You are wrong. Have you got a Bible? 1 John 4:8 says God IS love, not just that He has love. I do understand your pain and anger at the hatred and abominations of innocent kids and people, but it isn't God doing it. Do you not believe in the devil, Satan? He's real, and according to Revelation 12:7-12 that creep has a short period of time before he's put out of commission. Please read your Bible because the true God really cares about you and people, and will undo all the injustices in this world soon. Take care. Shari

      September 1, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
  5. eat more chickn

    chik fil a for dinner tonight. I support gay marriage but I also support a persons right to their opinion.
    Chik fil a is simply stating their opinion. Sweet and sour sauce for those chick fil a stips please

    July 25, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  6. Robert Brown

    llɐq ʎʞɔnq,
    Not a scientist or philosopher either, obviously. I do remember reading and enjoying plato for a college course many years ago. I haven’t ever read anything that would cause me to believe that “archeology destroys every claim for inspiration,” or” we know the human process, and the roots of everything, in human culture.” I am sure you can reference something that would make those claims, but all the same…I too, continue to be more than skeptical.

    July 25, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      oops wrong spot

      July 25, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Have been exposed to the pinnacle in biblical studies and archaeology in the Ivy League. They know a hell of a lot about everything.

      July 25, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      llɐq ʎʞɔnq,
      Yes, I think I know what you mean, I know and have known a few folks who “know everything.” And, if you don’t believe me, just ask them.

      July 25, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      It's good to refresh your memory of His truth Robert, especially when you are in the trenches. God Bless you.

      As for Bucky backwards,

      Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

      Colossians 2:8


      July 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  7. Bo

    @ llɐq ʎʞɔnq:
    “Yeah. Isn't it great. Science can change it's mind. That's what they do. All day. Every day. They compete to prove each other wrong. (Unlike religioin which says they possess THE revealed "truth")” You may view this as a positive, I view it as a negative; meaning: (your definition of science) has no truth, only theories.

    July 25, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      (BTW everyone, thanks for the great civil discussion for a change)...
      Science is a method, never a competed task. What do you mean, exactly, when you say you want or need to "possess the truth". I know for a fact you go to the doctor, and take antibiotics when she tells you to, and go to the dentist. So you value science, whether you admit it or not. You would call 911 if you had chest pain, and not just pray, no ?

      July 25, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      So then, Bo, what is truth,and how do you know it when you see it ?

      July 25, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Peace2All


      Hey dude... I have re-sent my email to you several times. No response.

      Do you have the same -gmail address with your full name in it ?

      If not, maybe send me that temporary email address, as you did before, and I'll send you an email there.


      July 25, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      I may have changed it. send me something at cnnbeliefblog@hotmail.com .. say something I will recognize, and I'll give you the new one.

      July 25, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
  8. junior

    It takes more faith to believe that a tornado went through a junkyard and randomly assembled a 747 and that a chimp typing for a million years can type randomly a Shakespeare novel.

    July 25, 2012 at 11:43 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      The probability of an event which has not occurred can be anything from 0 to infinity, as you correctly state. However the probability of an event that HAS occurred is 1.0. They are two entirely different things. If the even HAS occurred, the pre-event probability is no longer relevant. Thus your monkey typing example is irrelevant, as we are here. Thus your statement is a misunderstanding of statistics and probability, probing that you have never studied it. The Anthropic Principle has been debunked in many places, by many people. The universe is NOT fine tuned. The average life of a black hole is 10^100 years. The average life of a star is 10^17 years. Divide one by the other. To 80 decimal places, the result is 0. Zero. For the complete life of the universe, except for a tiny fraction of it's existence, there will be no life.

      July 25, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      Of course, if the chimps survival and subsequent ability to breed was more likely the better they could type Shakespeare, eventually natural selection would give us Shakespeare typing chimps.

      July 25, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Your assumption is also that there is only one trial. If there are an infinite number of trial events, then the monkey-typing will eventually produce the result, (Shakespeare). There is no reason to assume there is only one trial event. Currently in Physics, the Mutliverse, and how it can be inferred is a hot topic. If the WMAP finds evidence of ripples in the CMB radiation, then Penrose, (England) and Hogan, (Fermilab), have proposed that it may signal collisions of other universes. "We don't know yet" is a perfectly acceptable answer, (unless one suffers from An'al Retentive Syndrome).

      July 25, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • junior

      Well then let's assume there are a million events in which a twister passes a junkyard, and a million monkeys typing for a million years. Will we still get the 747 and the Shakespeare work?

      July 25, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      The answer is.....you probably won't. But the probability is not zero. The million events is far too small a sample. If billions and billions of universes winked into existence, and one in a billion billion trillion, froze out the properties which would allow it to continue, then..here we are. Just incredibly lucky. Very very improbable, but not impossible. We don't know. And for now, that's all we can say. But not knowing does not justify the construction of a system, for which there is even LESS probability, just because it makes us feel better. Saying we don't know, is acceptable, for now.
      William Lane Craig is famous for his probability equation for the resurrection. If one accepts the probability, and premises that is built on, then one must also accept the probability that other things, which we dismiss automatically, (such as the witches of Salem Mass.), which have a higher probability, are also true.

      July 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Junior, I'm surprised that bucky is humoring you...

      The whole "747 from a junkyard" question is just more believer bullsh! – a straw man argument with no validity. To be the least bit valid, the "junkyard" would have to be stocked with every one of the 1,000s of parts that go into a 747. You are confusing animate objects that can evolve into other more complex structures and procreate, with inanimate objects that left on their own are far (FAR!) more likely to deteriorate ("rust") long before they collide repeatedly and form a coherent structure or more advanced machine that might turn out a 747.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:28 pm |
  9. lunchbreaker

    I've never understood the theist obsession with demonstrating similarities with the opposition as if that is something negative.

    July 25, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Huebert

      If they understood logic or argument they wouldn't believe as they do.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • Robert Brown

      Good morning lunchbreaker,

      I guess I am a little slow but you lost me after the first 3 words. Care to expound on that a little?

      July 25, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Good morning Robert. I notice people like our friend unkown down there, say things like "athiests actually believe" athiests actually have faith in various things". These phrases are showing alleged similarities between the 2 sides, but are presentind as trying to show one side negatively.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Robert Brown

      Ok, I see what you mean. I thought I missed something in the speed read. I guess I am guilty, too. I get an idea occasionally and post something provocative just to get a discussion started.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:25 am |
    • nojinx

      Good morning all. I have had the same question occur to me. What is the point of such a claim, even if it were true? The primary problem isn't the rituals, though many can be horrendous, but the beliefs. If a religion is free from anything that we have no reason to believe to be true, then it matters little and its rituals are likely neutral if not positive.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:29 am |
  10. Unknown

    Atheists believe in miracles.Life came from non-life.

    July 25, 2012 at 10:06 am |
    • HeavenSent

      They're always miserable because they know they follow the lies of satan.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Get a room, you two.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Exactly. And we have just proven it. Science has now made a jellyfish, from rat cells and silicone. Stick THAT in your pipe, and smoke it. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/07/22/swimming-jellyfish-built-out-rat-cells-silicone/
      Life is an emergent process, from complex chemistry. Every step in the process isk nown, and understanding increases every day. There are no god(s) necessary.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      damn this f'ing Dell. I'm takin it back.

      "is known"

      July 25, 2012 at 10:28 am |
    • Unknown

      Prove humans exist without a creator.Go ahead and try.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie Tom, glad to see that you are posting under your own miserable handle instead of the Satan one you used yesterday.

      July 25, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      You'll have to get to the back of the line. I'm busy today proving that there is no 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto.
      But if you'd care to make an appointment, we'll try to work you in.
      At Cal Tech, we always aim to please. Bit' to be fair, it's first come, first served.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Bo

      @ llɐq ʎʞɔnq: Yes, science can modify life, but can scientist create life? That is the statement Unknown is making.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Who invited me?

      unknown is a troll posting rediculousness to try to get a rise out of people.
      he posts under a variety of names.
      By siding with him,you prove the old addage sucker born every minute.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Humans do exist. What does it matter if there is a creator?

      July 25, 2012 at 11:11 am |
    • Bo

      @ Who invited me? Thanx, I'll try to remember that. I don't read or post too much any more because I simply do not have the time.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Well science CAN create viruses. So who knows ? Who cares, really. If we can we can, if it takes a while, it takes a while. Eventually, yes they will. Ultimately everything Creationism and belief systems say about "evidence" is an Argument from Ignorance, and "god of the gaps". Faith is a virtue, (capritiously), granted by the (your) Holy Spirit. I wish it had been granted to me, (well sometimes). At some point, one makes the decision, "do I abandon reason, and make the leap...or not". No one can tell me *where*, (exactly) that point is, or why they make that decision. Having met SO many people in religion, (actually grew up in the very top in Italy, I saw they all had feet of clay ... just lonely old men. Besides that, the archaeology destroys every claim for inspiration. We know the human process, and the roots of everything, in human culture. Education is very dangerous.

      July 25, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • Bo

      @ llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      “For about 100 years, the scientific community has repeatedly changed its collective mind over what viruses are. First seen as poisons, then as life-forms, then biological chemicals, viruses today are thought of as being in a gray area between living and nonliving: they cannot replicate on their own but can do so in truly living cells and can also affect the behavior of their hosts profoundly. The categorization of viruses as nonliving during much of the modern era of biological science has had an unintended consequence: it has led most researchers to ignore viruses in the study of evolution. Finally, however, scientists are beginning to appreciate viruses as fundamental players in the history of life.” Scientific American; 8/8/2008

      So what kind of virus has been ‘created’ by science?

      July 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      llɐq ʎʞɔnq,
      I think education is great, but I am going to tell you one thing to watch out for as you learn. When you are reading a textbook and you go along through the detail of various “findings” at some point the author may make a statement similar to this, “because of this we know…..” Now, the author undoubtedly “thinks” his conclusion is accurate and several others may agree, as well as, you and me. But, do we really know?

      July 25, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Robert, while you are reading, Romans 1:17-32 should be viewed again.


      July 25, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Yeah. Isn't it great. Science can change it's mind. That's what they do. All day. Every day. They compete to prove each other wrong. (Unlike religioin which says they possess THE revealed "truth")

      July 25, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      I don't know why it won't post. I'm pretty good getting around the filter. Google : scientists build virus from scratch. It's on Yahoo.

      July 25, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Robert. I am a skeptic. Agree. How do we know what we think we know, and what does that even mean ? Am just starting to look into epistomology and am a complete dolt with respect to formal Philosophy. I have a long way to go. Who are your favorites ?

      July 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • nojinx

      How do we know life coming from non-life is a miracle?

      July 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Thanks for the scripture reference. I went and read it again.

      July 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Sorry, posted above,
      llɐq ʎʞɔnq,
      Not a scientist or philosopher either, obviously. I do remember reading and enjoying plato for a college course many years ago. I haven’t ever read anything that would cause me to believe that “archeology destroys every claim for inspiration,” or” we know the human process, and the roots of everything, in human culture.” I am sure you can reference something that would make those claims, but all the same…I too, continue to be more than skeptical.

      July 25, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Gee, Bo. All you have to do is read the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. In 2003, the Venter Inst.itute created a synthetic bacteriophage, which is a virus that infects bacteria

      July 25, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
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