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Evangelist Billy Graham defends Chick-fil-A
July 26th, 2012
02:18 PM ET

Evangelist Billy Graham defends Chick-fil-A

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN)– Billy Graham, the dean of American evangelists, has once again broken his usual silence on hot-button issues, defending the president of the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain for his opposition to same-sex marriage days after issuing a letter decrying what he sees as the nation's moral decay.

Earlier this year, the ailing preacher publicly endorsed a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay unions in North Carolina, raising eyebrows among many who'd watched Graham studiously avoid thorny social issues for years.

On Thursday, he issued a statement of support for the popular fast-food chain. Many people have slammed Chick-fil-A President Don Cathy for saying his company backs the traditional family unit and is opposed to same-sex marriage.

Graham praised restaurant founder S. Truett Cathy and son Don Cathy, the company's president, "for their strong stand for the Christian faith."

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"I've known their family for many years and have watched them grow Chick-fil-A into one of the best businesses in America while never compromising their values," Graham said.

The Chick-fil-A controversy reflects what many see as America's deep cultural and religious divide. The company's position on same-sex marriage doesn't sit well with Jim Henson Co., whose Jim Henson's Creature Shop toys have been served in Chick-fil-A's meals for children.

Jim Henson Co. is named for the creator of The Muppets. However, the company transferred The Muppets' rights and ownership to the Walt Disney Co. in 2003, according to Jim Henson Co.

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over 50 years and we have notified Chick-fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a posting on its Facebook page.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a 2008 GOP presidential candidate, is backing Chick-fil-A. He urged people to turn out to Chick-fil-A restaurants on Wednesday to show their support for what Cathy had to say about marriage.

Graham says he appreciated Huckabee's leadership and plans to visit a Chick-fil-A on that day, August 1.

"Each generation faces different issues and challenges, but our standard must always be measured by God's word. I appreciate the Cathy family's public support for God's definition of marriage."

On Tuesday, Graham leveled deep criticism at the United States. He compared the country to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Biblical cities synonymous with sin.

"Self-centered indulgence, pride, and a lack of shame over sin are now emblems of the American lifestyle," Graham writes in the open letter released by his organization this week.

He blasts what he sees as efforts to keep references to Jesus out of the public sphere.

"Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone - except God. Yet the farther we get from God, the more the world spirals out of control," he writes in the letter released Tuesday.

Graham, 93, has preached to untold millions over six decades, and provided counsel to generations of U.S. presidents.

His open letter also contains a fund-raising appeal and a notice that Graham's son Franklin, himself a major evangelical figure, is launching a new effort to "bring the Gospel into neighborhoods and homes in every corner of America next year."

Randall Balmer, the chair of the religion department at Dartmouth College, suspects the motivation for the letter is at least partly political.

"It's hard for me to believe that this letter does not have political intent," he said.

Its move to decry what he would see as moral decay "would be tied to the Obama administration," he argued, asking rhetorically why Graham would not have issued the statement in response to an event like the Abu Ghraib torture scandal.

In response to the controversy, Larry Ross, Graham’s spokesperson, said that “the letter does not address timely issues.”

“‘My Heart Aches for America,’ was written 6-8 weeks ago – long before recent current events, such as the tragic shooting in an Aurora, Colo movie theater, or the ongoing Chik-fil-A controversy,” Ross said in an email to CNN. “He is responding to general struggles in our culture and a moral decline that has existed through his public ministry.”

At the same time, Ross said that Graham is keen on the idea of eating Chick-fil-A next Wednesday.

“Considering Mr. Graham's age and limited mobility, his statement today was more an expression of sentiment and solidarity with the Cathy family and their cause than actually a commitment to go to a Chik-fil-A himself,” Ross said. “But he does plan to ‘Eat Mor Chikin’ on Aug. 1, which I expect someone will be able to get for him to enjoy at home.”

Balmer said that evangelicals would take note of the letter, though Graham has largely retired from the public eye in recent years.

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"There is certainly admiration for Billy Graham, as there should be," Balmer said. "There is lingering respect for Billy Graham and I think that people will take notice."

But he said the comparison to Sodom and Gomorrah - which Graham attributes to his late wife Ruth in the letter - was startling.

"When Billy Graham came to Madison Square Garden in 1957, he made comments comparing New York City to Sodom and Gomorrah and was roundly criticized for it," Balmer said. Since that time, Balmer said, Graham has largely avoided making the comparison to the Biblical cities.

CNN's Joe Sterling contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Belief • Billy Graham • Christianity • Church and state • Food

soundoff (2,864 Responses)
  1. rob

    I'll never understand why Rethuglican, conservative, right-wing, religious fanatics think they can force other normal people to accept their deviant views and lifestyle. They love to tell other people how to live their lives, while their own lives are in shambles. The Christian (esp. Catholic, Mormon, Evangelical, and Southern Baptist) Taliban in this country are going to face a violent wake up call soon if they keep trying to spread their hatred, intolerant views, and intolerant actions on normal Americans. And it is patently unfair that gays and their loved ones should be devastated by discriminatory actions, while the bigots and their families go about enjoying their lives as if nothing is wrong. It's time to start making bigots pay for the discriminatory actions they take. When they have to pay a price, they might start to rethink their actions. I would urge anyone reading this to take WHATEVER ACTIONS POSSIBLE to harm Chick-Fil-A personnel or property, Dan Cathy, other members of the Cathy family, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachmann, Antonin Scalia, Billy Graham, or their loved ones, to make them pay for the harm they are doing to the people they discriminate against.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • What???

      Rob, I think you need to follow the news. Gun sales are highest in the places where belief in God is highest. Most Southern Christians know how to grow food, fish and hunt, they know how to finsh brass and how to reload rounds so I think the violence will be returned in kind.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • What???

      Another thing most of the males have been though one of the 3 services and know how to handle a weapon effectively.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • What???

      Look at the demographics of the US army, marines and Special Forces if you don’t believe me! Do you really believe they will turn their weapons on their families for you? Because you are offended by an expression of a belief.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
  2. DJ

    Jesus Christ maade it very clear that marriage was between a man and a woman only.if you don't understand that, than you either don't know scripture, or don't believe in Christ and his teachings at all. Christ spoke the truth.

    Even leaving faith out of it, it is a matter of natural law, to believe otherwise is a lie.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • wally

      Lier!!!

      July 26, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • Michael

      Jesus didn't say women named Katty could marry so we better make sure they don't.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:53 pm |
  3. Lizzy10

    As a good Christian myself with strong belief values I have only this to say to Rev. Graham, you're wrong. Any couple who loves one another deserves to be able to marry and the USA isn't Sodom and Gomorrah, it's the country I'm proud to live in and who my family has defended for years.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • junior

      So you are a cafeteria christian, only follow the teachings you are comfortable with.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Lizzy10

      Junior, I follow what Christ said "Love God and love one another". That's what I'm comfortable with.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Gus2c

      WOW Lizzy10, you're way off base, to love the sinner and not the sin is not accepting any and everything. As a follower of Christ, I agree with will Billy and the CEO. Please attend a Bible Teaching Church to get a full and good understanding of what the Bible says. I fully and totally disagree with the gay lifestyle, but I will not mistreat them, treat them in a negative or harrass them or anything to that level. The Bible says let those who do wrong continue to do wrong, those who do right continue to do right, and those who are holy continue to be holy please read an heed Revelations 22:11. The U.S. is not Sodom and Gomorrah yet – but with good christians like you – it won't be long. Two men or two women CAN-NOT MARRY. If you want to shack, live together what ever do it – be you but it is not a marriage, call it anything else.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
  4. timelord7202

    *sigh*

    For the days businesses kept personal and professional lives SEPARATE and treated each customer the same – as customers. Nowadays businesses seem to want to know every aspect of customers' lives, which is okay, but when turned – it's apparently wrong for customers and others to know what goes on in the business. Ethics are for us, not them, it seems.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  5. Bob the Cat

    Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Ahhh religion, time to give way to sanity.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
  6. Cory

    Nobody really cares what the president of a fast food chain restaurant has to say regarding gay marriage. For all we know he could be a wife-beating, beer-drinking, child-molesting piece of garbage. Billy Graham doesn't even know what day it is so just stay quiet in your little corner.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Nice comeback... anything is technically possible.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  7. Debbie

    Seems that Christians need protecting more than other religious groups these days. This is simply a belief that does not bring harm to anyone but makes a stand for Christian values. God gives us all a choice...if that choice is in line with his Word then great, if not then it's just that individual's choice. The CEO has every right to his beliefs and his choice! Anyone that doesn't agree has plenty of other options for a nice chicken sandwich. As for me, I'll stick with the Chik-fil-A!

    July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • timelord7202

      So do the customers, Debbie, and most people in business usually keep personal issues out of professional venues. It's very simple. Try being in business sometime...

      July 26, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      Bigotry and discrimination "do no harm"? Ever heard of slavery, the Holocaust, or the era when women were not allowed to vote? Does no harm?

      July 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "his is simply a belief that does not bring harm to anyone but makes a stand for Christian values. "

      It's about their civil rights and it is harming gay families. These rights include:
      Tax Benefits
      -–Filing joint income tax returns with the I R S and state taxing authorities.
      -–Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
      Estate Planning Benefits
      -–Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
      -–Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
      -–Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
      -–Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse – that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
      Government Benefits
      -–Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
      -–Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
      -–Receiving public assistance benefits.
      -–Employment Benefits
      -–Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
      -–Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
      -–Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
      -–Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
      Medical Benefits
      -–Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
      -–Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.
      Death Benefits
      -–Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
      -–Making burial or other final arrangements.
      Family Benefits
      -–Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
      -–Applying for joint foster care rights.
      -–Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
      -–Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.
      Housing Benefits
      -–Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
      -–Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.
      Consumer Benefits
      -–Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
      -–Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
      -–Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
      -–Other Legal Benefits and Protections
      -–Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
      -–Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
      -–Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
      -–Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
      -–Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
      -–Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • Debbie

      To each person that has responded to me, I respect your statements. But, again, it is his choice as it is ours to believe and act as we feel led to (as long as no harm comes to anyone). To say he doesn't agree with gay marriage does no harm to those who desire that lifestyle because the option is still available to them and they can simply act in opposition. I hope you will not persecute me for believing the same as he does...

      July 26, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Michael

      It's amazing people think since they can verbalize a statement then it must make sense. Tell you what Debbie... Why don't we outlaw women named "Debbie" being able to marry the person they love and see how much it doesn't hurt you at all?

      July 26, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • The_Pope_is_just_another_man

      The Christians need protecting?
      Were you not the ones who had the Spanish inquisition and burned women alive because you thought they were witches or non-believing heretics? Did you not torture Galileo until he saw it your way.All he asked was to look into the telescope.
      Were you not the ones who will not allow Christian charities to provide condoms to AIDS torn Africa?
      Did the Christians not pillage towns and villages during the crusades and steal their gold for the Vatican vaults.Did they not help the Nazi's escape after World War II? Did you not celebrate Hitlers birthday every year until his death in Germany.I could go on and on with the atrocities the Christians have commited.Yes, I believe it was you guys.What an ignorant remark! Its you guys and your hate that should be feared.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
    • What???

      timelord7202

      So do the customers, Debbie, and most people in business usually keep personal issues out of professional venues. It's very simple. Try being in business sometime...

      The Cathy family has gone against the norms of the fastfood business for a long time and they are not starving nor are they in need. I will continue to buy their product along with my family.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
  8. TheChoice Is Mine

    Are we forced in this world to accept the "Gay" lifestyle? Is it not the choice of the individual on whether or not they want to accept it? Why all of a sudden is "Gay" being cast down our throats and we are forced to accept and if we don't we are outcasts in society? There are already too many issues going in the world with race and religion and lifestyle should not be an issue as well. If one chooses to be "Gay" so be it, but I don't think others should be forced to accept the lifestyle, no matter who they are. It should be basically their choice. Have a great day!!

    July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • Bob the Cat

      You dont have to accept it, just shut your pie hole.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Only as much as gays are forced into your hetero lifestyle.

      Their spin is as valid as your spin...

      July 26, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "If one chooses to be "Gay" so be it, but I don't think others should be forced to accept the lifestyle, no matter who they are. It"

      The experts disagree with you. Obviously you are clueless on this subject. People don't choose to be gay. Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      July 26, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • EndTheHate

      H o m o s e x u a l i t y is considered a normal and >>>unchangeable<<< part of human s e x u a l i t y by the following medical and mental health associations: The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the Canadian Psychological Association, and the National Association of Social Workers.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • Michael

      How exactly are you being "forced" to accept it? You mean you're being forced to allow someone else, someone who doesn't affect your life in one single aspect, to marry? It's unreal you're klan is out to force their beliefs on other people in ways that directly affect them tremendously and you're the first to whine about how you're being forced to deal with imaginary BS items. Grow up.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • junior

      It is a disoriented behavior.
      ahh but it happens in the animal kingdom– They eat their feces and eat their young as well

      It does not bring about life – putt 100 men on an island, come back in 100 yrs, see it it is fruitful.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Gus2c

      Agreed!!!
      I stand with Bill and the CEO of Chic-Fil-A –

      July 26, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • What???

      o EndTheHate
      H o m o s e x u a l i t y is considered a normal and >>>unchangeable<<< part of human s e x u a l i t y by the following medical and mental health associations: The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the Canadian Psychological Association, and the National Association of Social Workers.
      Using these guys as any justifiable support for your point is like asking a crazy man if another crazy man is crazy! These organizations are NOT quantifiable sciences. They only deal in the abstract like the imagination unlike real Doctors of practical medicine that can say this is cancer, this is the flu, this is a tumor and this is a broken bone. These guys give “their opinion” which is like a butt everybody has one.

      July 26, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  9. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    God keeps people like Billly Graham around long enough to give them time to get it right and he just keeps getting it wrong.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
  10. Jim Hahn

    Time for this fossil to retire. Gay marriage is coming, you can either be on the right side of history, or the wrong side, but you can't stop history from happening. As the older Americans die off and take their outdated and illogical beliefs with them, we will eventually get to the point where young Americans will wonder what the fuss was all about.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • BobZemko

      Very well-said, sir.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • bustamove7

      Wrong side of gay marriage? Obviously, you've lost what little mind you had left. This is about people standing up for what they believe, and Mr. Cathy is doing just that. If someone doesn't agree with your stance, then that's it, they don't agree with you. But in this country, today, if you aren't screaming from the rooftops that you agree with the gay agenda, you are somehow a second class citizen. I don't agree with the gay agenda, never will. Chick-fil-A will get all of my lunch and dinner money for the forseeable future, and you can promote your twisted agenda all you want.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • junior

      That is if there are any young Americans in the future.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
  11. wally

    Didn't Billie Graham die, like 50 years ago?

    July 26, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
    • Bob the Cat

      Even heaven dont want him. rawr

      July 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
  12. ArizonaMom

    A good man of Character not afraid of the liberal media......Go Billy! By the way, the owner of the restaurant chain has the right to her beliefs and freedom of speech. Liberals, this is not "hate". This is her view and many, many other's views. We are not "haters". We just believe it is wrong and that is that. Liberals, "hate" is saying "I will kill you" etc.... get a grip.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
    • Bob the Cat

      Your hate is inspired by delusion which is plain scary. Rawr.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • The_Pope_is_just_another_man

      If you will go to the Nixon tapes of Billy Graham and Nixon speaking while alone in Nixon's office,you will find that he is a flaming racist against Jews and blacks.Even over Nixon..Research it. The tapes are on youtube if you want proof of what I am saying.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • DeeCee1000

      You have every right to be a bigot and to try and suppress the civil rights of any given minority. The rest of us choose to be better human beings than THAT.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:44 pm |
    • Ponderinglife

      Totally agree with you ArizonaMom! Billy is speaking the truth. The hypocrisy of the liberals on this is appalling! If a Muslim religious leader or business leader spoke out against gay marriage, based on the teachings of the Koran, they wouldn't say a word, but because the CEO of Chick-Fil-A and Billy Graham are Christians and base their beliefs on the teachings of the New Testament they are unfairly accused of hate speech. I'm getting really sick of Christians being treated like their faith disqualifies them from free speech in the U.S. It is worse in other parts of the world where more Christians are currently being killed for their faith than members of any other religion.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • Michael

      Her? Thanks for showing just how clueless you are.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • timelord7202

      The media is not liberal. The media is capitalist. This article is clearly generating a lot of traffic, which leads to more ad revenue. It's quite simple.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • wally

      We have the right to Hate Billy and the Chicken Sandwich Sellers, because they are bigots.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • What???

      ArizonaMom, I agree! Ya, though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death we must fear no evil for God is with us. Only a fool will say in his heart there is no God.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • What???

      Wally, this is America and I am confident Mr. Cathy is not moved by your point because if he was he would not have said it. I for one would rather spend my money with a man that will stand for what he believes than with a man that is moved by fear

      July 26, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • The_Pope_is_just_another_man

      @ ponderinglife.–"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich person to get into the kingdom of heaven"-Jesus Christ. Hypocrites all! Its pretty bad when your own book can be used as evidence against your present hateful philosophies. You cherrypick your verses so it works out for you.Plus you would not be a Christian if you were not born in the family you were.End of story

      July 26, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
    • What???

      o The_Pope_is_just_another_man
      “@ ponderinglife.–"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich person to get into the kingdom of heaven"-Jesus Christ.” He also said he would give you power to gain wealth. Wealth is a problem with God only when you don’t use it to help others. You are the hypocrites when you cherry pick your argument. Jesus must have been wealthy because he was not only a descendent of David the king of Israel and he also had a treasurer (Judas) which indicates he had more money than just a few dollars or pennies. The rich that will not make it to heaven are the ones that say in their heart there is no God.”Plus you would not be a Christian if you were not born in the family you were.” Where in Hell did you find this??? Not found in the Bible!!!

      July 26, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • JKhur

      Believe what you will, say what you will. But when you actively support the denial of civil rights to your fellow citizens simply becasue ypu don't like them you go too far. That's Cathy's failing. Not his statements, but his actions.

      July 26, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
  13. Nietodarwin

    I don't know any religious people who just up and vomit all over the table when eating a meal with other people. I see there are many religious people who comment on here that don't realize that is the effect they are having on the rest of us, (and some who believe what they do) when they spout off about their "faith" Keep religion in your church and prayer groups.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
    • latenite

      So much for freedom of religion.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Or freedom from religion, but there was once an article that had Texas' Board of Education trying to make Thomas Jefferson vanish from the history books, and was he not the one who believed in "separation between church and state" as well... anyone not believing me is free to spend a few seconds to do some web searches... the articles are out there... or people can remain in ignorance, but then they still won't feel any more blissful or happier...

      July 26, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • junior

      Only if you rely on this forum/blog as a source of nourishment. And that it isn't.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
  14. Bob the Cat

    Rawr. Betcha Billy likes the big D an' we don't mean Dallas.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
  15. Mark

    Jerry Sandusky is a perfect example of a gay who hates.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • Bob the Cat

      No, Jerry was a pedophile like all the rest. Oddly enough he was not a catholic priest.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
    • MrsFizzy

      And you probably feel that a male who preys on little girls is no reflection on you as a straight male, right? So, what's your point?

      July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Not all pedophiles are gay... look it up sometime, since any of us could provide a lot of material showing the contrary and you wouldn't care either way. Either way, you will choose to feel more comfortable with your prejudices than to be open to facts.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • Michael

      Sandusky was married to a woman and had kids. He was NOT gay! There is not one reported incidence of him having an encounter with a MAN. It is unreal your klan, once again, can't figure out the difference between a 10yo boy and a 30yo man.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
  16. Allison

    As a lesbian, I feel that Chik Fil A actually cares about me more than most gay establishments.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Jim

      So you must not be in a relationship or don't want to marry your partner because they aren't supporting your civil rights.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      Jim is correct. They are trying to prevent you from having the same civil rights as different races of people. They don't care about your right to do anything, and believe you will burn in hell for eternity, but would rather burn you now while you're alive.
      Why would you write such a silly thing Allison?

      July 26, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • timelord7202

      They care about profits.

      If they don't know the customer is _____ they're not going to care. If they know, they will tolerate the customer only as long as it has money to hand them.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
  17. Robert

    Only a blind man can not see we are at end times, third world countries with nuclear arms, a finacial system that is about to collapse, global disasters becoming more prominate, Godlessness that would try to redefine nature, men marrying men, women marrying women, mothers killing their babies rather than loving their babies and those who would mock the only one who could save them, JESUS, all that will hear prepare to stand before him let him be your savior rather than your judge, just a little while not much time is left before this world learns his wrath.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      zzzzZZZZzzzz
      zzzzZZZZzzzz

      Are you done yet? Can I mock you now? People have been saying they are in the end-times since even before Christianity. You have no more evidence then they did.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Jerry

      If it doesn't end soon it will have missed one Hell of a good chance too!

      July 26, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent's Cats

      Meow.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • CDAinLA

      way too many flaws in your speech dude.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Life is what we make of it. I wonder when humankind absconded ethics and morals...

      July 26, 2012 at 6:53 pm |
    • The_Pope_is_just_another_man

      That has been happening since the beginning of mankind.That's why we needed rules in the first place.Earthquakes and tsunamis too.Been happening all along.These things are just reported quicker and more accurately because technology gets it to us quicker.Things used to be A LOT WORSE.Go golfing on Sundays.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
  18. budshot

    Hate is hate, whether it comes in the form of corporate bigotry or out of the mouth of a very old white man.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • HM8432

      ...or when it comes from a special interest group that screams opression and decries 'hate' all while practicing it themselves.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Michael

      Yes, HM, I can't believe those gays being so intolerant of intolerance, so bigoted against bigots, hating on haters.

      Tell you what, why don't we pass laws where you can't marry the person you love, you can be fired from your job just because you use the screen name HM, you can lose your housing do to it and while we're at let's convince the world you're subhuman, that you should be hated, that you're abomination and that even God hates you and see how tolerant you become.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  19. Martin

    God is the Judge!! It doesn't really matter what we think. And it's sooner than you think! 7/27/12.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • timelord7202

      7/27/12, tomorrow, the Judgment Day is tomorrow?

      Others predicted and were wrong, so what makes you right?

      July 26, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
  20. John

    "Marriage was created by God FROM THE BEGINNING to be between a man and a woman."

    Some argue that since homosexual behavior is "unnatural" it is contrary to the order of creation. Behind this pronouncement are stereotypical definitions of masculinity and femininity that reflect rigid gender categories of patriarchal society. There is nothing unnatural about any shared love, even between two of the same gender, if that experience calls both partners to a fuller state of being. Contemporary research is uncovering new facts that are producing a rising conviction that homosexuality, far from being a sickness, sin, perversion or unnatural act, is a healthy, natural and affirming form of human sexuality for some people. Findings indicate that homosexuality is a given fact in the nature of a significant portion of people, and that it is unchangeable.

    Our prejudice rejects people or things outside our understanding. But the God of creation speaks and declares, "I have looked out on everything I have made and `behold it (is) very good'." . The word (Genesis 1:31) of God in Christ says that we are loved, valued, redeemed, and counted as precious no matter how we might be valued by a prejudiced world.

    There are few biblical references to homosexuality. The first, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, is often quoted to prove that the Bible condemns homosexuality. But the real sin of Sodom was the unwillingness of the city's men to observe the laws of hospitality. The intention was to insult the stranger by forcing him to take the female role in the sex act. The biblical narrative approves Lot's offer of his virgin daughters to satisfy the sexual demands of the mob. How many would say, "This is the word of the Lord"? When the Bible is quoted literally, it might be well for the one quoting to read the text in its entirety.

    Leviticus, in the Hebrew Scriptures, condemns homosexual behaviour, at least for males. Yet, "abomination", the word Leviticus uses to describe homosexuality, is the same word used to describe a menstruating woman. Paul is the most quoted source in the battle to condemn homosexuality ( 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 and Romans 1: 26-27). But homosexual activity was regarded by Paul as a punishment visited upon idolaters by God because of their unfaithfulness. Homosexuality was not the sin but the punishment.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Paul gave a list of those who would not inherit the Kingdom of God. That list included the immoral, idolaters, adulterers, sexual perverts, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, and robbers. Sexual perverts is a translation of two words; it is possible that the juxtaposition of malakos, the soft, effeminate word, with arsenokoitus, or male prostitute, was meant to refer to the passive and active males in a homosexual liaison.

    Thus, it appears that Paul would not approve of homosexual behavior. But was Paul's opinion about homosexuality accurate, or was it limited by the lack of scientific knowledge in his day and infected by prejudice born of ignorance? An examination of some of Paul's other assumptions and conclusions will help answer this question. Who today would share Paul's anti-Semitic attitude, his belief that the authority of the state was not to be challenged, or that all women ought to be veiled? In these attitudes Paul's thinking has been challenged and transcended even by the church! Is Paul's commentary on homosexuality more absolute than some of his other antiquated, culturally conditioned ideas?

    Three other references in the New Testament (in Timothy, Jude and 2 Peter) appear to be limited to condemnation of male sex slaves in the first instance, and to showing examples (Sodom and Gomorrah) of God's destruction of unbelievers and heretics (in Jude and 2 Peter respectively).

    That is all that Scripture has to say about homosexuality. Even if one is a biblical literalist, these references do not build an ironclad case for condemnation. If one is not a biblical literalist there is no case at all, nothing but prejudice born of ignorance, that attacks people whose only crime is to be born with an unchangeable sexual predisposition toward those of their own sex.

    July 26, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • timelord7202

      Thank you.

      July 26, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Michael

      You're kinda right about Corinthians. Paul stated 'soft' (has NOTHING to do with manners but is only used to describe morals or fabric) and "male bed". No one knows what he meant. It was translated to condemn mast urbation instead less than a hundred years ago. There were other Greek terms which would have conveyed gay men but Paul did not use them. The interesting aspect, about "male bed", is Paul was referring to the clobber passage in Leviticus and the term translated to "as with" means 'bed' every other time it's used in Leviticus. It's obvious "as with" is an intentional mistranslation especially when "a man shall not lie with another male in a woman's bed" can't be used to condemn gay people. Leviticus 15 even gives a long laundry list of bed issues seeing there was three different beds: the woman's, the man's and the marriage bed.

      The original text of the Bible never condemned gay people but please stop trying to say you've somehow solved what those terms in Corinthians meant because no one truly knows.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
    • Michael

      You're kinda right about Corinthians. Paul stated 'soft' (has NOTHING to do with mannerisms but is only used to describe morals or fabric) and "male bed". No one knows what he meant. It was translated to condemn mast urbation instead less than a hundred years ago. There were other Greek terms which would have conveyed gay men but Paul did not use them. The interesting aspect, about "male bed", is Paul was referring to the clobber passage in Leviticus and the term translated to "as with" means 'bed' every other time it's used in Leviticus. It's obvious "as with" is an intentional mistranslation especially when "a man shall not lie with another male in a woman's bed" can't be used to condemn gay people. Leviticus 15 even gives a long laundry list of bed issues seeing there was three different beds: the woman's, the man's and the marriage bed.

      The original text of the Bible never condemned gay people but please stop trying to say you've somehow solved what those terms in Corinthians meant because no one truly knows.

      July 26, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
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