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Evangelist Billy Graham defends Chick-fil-A
July 26th, 2012
02:18 PM ET

Evangelist Billy Graham defends Chick-fil-A

By Richard Allen Greene, CNN

(CNN)– Billy Graham, the dean of American evangelists, has once again broken his usual silence on hot-button issues, defending the president of the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain for his opposition to same-sex marriage days after issuing a letter decrying what he sees as the nation's moral decay.

Earlier this year, the ailing preacher publicly endorsed a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay unions in North Carolina, raising eyebrows among many who'd watched Graham studiously avoid thorny social issues for years.

On Thursday, he issued a statement of support for the popular fast-food chain. Many people have slammed Chick-fil-A President Don Cathy for saying his company backs the traditional family unit and is opposed to same-sex marriage.

Graham praised restaurant founder S. Truett Cathy and son Don Cathy, the company's president, "for their strong stand for the Christian faith."

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"I've known their family for many years and have watched them grow Chick-fil-A into one of the best businesses in America while never compromising their values," Graham said.

The Chick-fil-A controversy reflects what many see as America's deep cultural and religious divide. The company's position on same-sex marriage doesn't sit well with Jim Henson Co., whose Jim Henson's Creature Shop toys have been served in Chick-fil-A's meals for children.

Jim Henson Co. is named for the creator of The Muppets. However, the company transferred The Muppets' rights and ownership to the Walt Disney Co. in 2003, according to Jim Henson Co.

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over 50 years and we have notified Chick-fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a posting on its Facebook page.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a 2008 GOP presidential candidate, is backing Chick-fil-A. He urged people to turn out to Chick-fil-A restaurants on Wednesday to show their support for what Cathy had to say about marriage.

Graham says he appreciated Huckabee's leadership and plans to visit a Chick-fil-A on that day, August 1.

"Each generation faces different issues and challenges, but our standard must always be measured by God's word. I appreciate the Cathy family's public support for God's definition of marriage."

On Tuesday, Graham leveled deep criticism at the United States. He compared the country to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Biblical cities synonymous with sin.

"Self-centered indulgence, pride, and a lack of shame over sin are now emblems of the American lifestyle," Graham writes in the open letter released by his organization this week.

He blasts what he sees as efforts to keep references to Jesus out of the public sphere.

"Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone - except God. Yet the farther we get from God, the more the world spirals out of control," he writes in the letter released Tuesday.

Graham, 93, has preached to untold millions over six decades, and provided counsel to generations of U.S. presidents.

His open letter also contains a fund-raising appeal and a notice that Graham's son Franklin, himself a major evangelical figure, is launching a new effort to "bring the Gospel into neighborhoods and homes in every corner of America next year."

Randall Balmer, the chair of the religion department at Dartmouth College, suspects the motivation for the letter is at least partly political.

"It's hard for me to believe that this letter does not have political intent," he said.

Its move to decry what he would see as moral decay "would be tied to the Obama administration," he argued, asking rhetorically why Graham would not have issued the statement in response to an event like the Abu Ghraib torture scandal.

In response to the controversy, Larry Ross, Graham’s spokesperson, said that “the letter does not address timely issues.”

“‘My Heart Aches for America,’ was written 6-8 weeks ago – long before recent current events, such as the tragic shooting in an Aurora, Colo movie theater, or the ongoing Chik-fil-A controversy,” Ross said in an email to CNN. “He is responding to general struggles in our culture and a moral decline that has existed through his public ministry.”

At the same time, Ross said that Graham is keen on the idea of eating Chick-fil-A next Wednesday.

“Considering Mr. Graham's age and limited mobility, his statement today was more an expression of sentiment and solidarity with the Cathy family and their cause than actually a commitment to go to a Chik-fil-A himself,” Ross said. “But he does plan to ‘Eat Mor Chikin’ on Aug. 1, which I expect someone will be able to get for him to enjoy at home.”

Balmer said that evangelicals would take note of the letter, though Graham has largely retired from the public eye in recent years.

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"There is certainly admiration for Billy Graham, as there should be," Balmer said. "There is lingering respect for Billy Graham and I think that people will take notice."

But he said the comparison to Sodom and Gomorrah - which Graham attributes to his late wife Ruth in the letter - was startling.

"When Billy Graham came to Madison Square Garden in 1957, he made comments comparing New York City to Sodom and Gomorrah and was roundly criticized for it," Balmer said. Since that time, Balmer said, Graham has largely avoided making the comparison to the Biblical cities.

CNN's Joe Sterling contributed to this report.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Belief • Billy Graham • Christianity • Church and state • Food

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    July 29, 2012 at 12:47 am |
    • sam Yaza

      you cant repent if you have done nothing wrong

      July 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • Greg

      Sam, you can always repent. The question is what is sin. Sin is anything that goes against the charachter of The Holy God. If you are looking at yourself from your own eyes I can understand why you don't have a desire to repent, however when you look at yourself in respect to The Holy God then and only then will you see the need to repent. God's law brings light to sin and the Holy Spirit shows man the need for Jesus and Jesus covers all sin and brings man once again into right standing before The Holy God. This is the process that The Holy God set in place from the beginning to bring His creation back into fellowship with Him.

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      July 30, 2012 at 1:37 pm |
  2. Reality

    And one more time:

    We don't need some overpaid (about $500,000 per year), anti-gay, redneck preacher or his son ($ 1 million per year) telling us what his non-atoning Jesus would do or say.

    That said, I will continue to buy the best chicken sandwich available i.e. Chick-fil-A's. The owner simply suffers from the Three B Syndrome i.e. he like many was Bred, Born and Brainwashed in his religion. Considering 95% of the global citizens suffer from this syndrome, he should not be punished for something he had no control over. If you see him, give him a copy of the following prayer to start his cure:

    The Apostles' Creed 2012 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    July 29, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • Greg

      There are over 400 prophecies that Jesus perfectly fulfilled. This evidence of His Lordship is indisputable.

      July 29, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • cavediver

      Greg

      Have you talked directly to jesus or god? are you 2k years old buddy? no? –ive got a bridge i need to unload for cheap....interested?

      July 29, 2012 at 3:16 am |
    • Chuck

      Good post.. however, it was Constantine's myths written about the time of Ceaser that gave rise to the new testament and modern Christianity.

      July 29, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • sam Yaza

      cavediver
      were is the bridge located and how much traffic does it get,... i have been thinking about the tool booth business for a while

      July 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      "–ive got a bridge i need to unload for cheap....interested?"

      "were is the bridge located and how much traffic does it get,..."

      The bridge you're on gets much of it(traffic), and it hang sover the pitts of Hell itself.
      It's a gathering place for fools who are having themselves "good time" while going there!
      But it's no party there, not the kind the fools immagine, making sport of joking about it!

      But fools won't listen to warnings, till one day, when their lives are over, they find themselves imprisoned in in that place of the damned, called Hell.
      Yeah, you want to believe it's just a fictional place, so you tell us you wanna proof. But it is not ours to give you "proof" . God doesn't operate that way! He does things on His terms, He is the Lord!
      But there will come a day that you wish you'd listened to those of us who warned you! You'll wish you never mocked God and His people...... Where you're going there is only weeping, mourning, pain, hopelessness and unimaginable sorrow. But the most tormenting is the REGRET and what you've missed, and what could have been!
      You people just don't know how serious your predicament is.... you're just one breath away from finding out... But some of you will find out sooner then you think....you have no promise of tomorrow!

      (Reposted ; first one went to wrong place....)

      July 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      tl, dr.

      July 29, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv24N8H1KyI

      ill take it ,.. im going to be rich,...5 bucks to cross the bridge, ahahahahahahhaha

      why your in hell don't forget to visit the Palace of Pleasure, tell them i sent you and Lilith will hook you up with Clara, she a Harionago who will rock your world , best hair job ever

      don't forget to stop by my place Kether Castle is beautiful in the full moon

      July 29, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • Greg

      God is self evident in His creation. Only a fool says in his heart there is no God!

      July 30, 2012 at 11:36 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's belief, Greg. Not fact.

      July 30, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Greg

      The sun, moon stars and planets are not belief they are physical and can be seen and felt. The frut bearing trees and plants are not belief, they just are. You are proof that there is a God. There is a Creator that transcends time and He has started in motion all things for His purpose. Whether you accept that TRUTH is between you and Him but you can not deny the TRUTH or you are lying to yourself.

      July 30, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Greg
      A lot of the core prophecies "fulfilled" by Jesus are up for debate.
      For example: They say that Jesus being born of a virgin fulfills the Isaiah 7:14prophecy.
      However, the Hebrew term in Isaiah “almah” which means a “young woman”. "Virgin" is a mistranslation.
      Christians assert that Jesus is from David's line, but tribal line cannot be passed on through adoption. Jesus cannot be "son of David" through Joseph. A tribal line also does not pass through the mother, and even if it did, Mary was not descended of David through Solomon.
      Furthermore, did Jesus manage to:
      1) Rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem? Kind of hard to do since the Temple still stood during Christ's lifetime.
      2) Re-establish Jewish law as the only law?
      3) Save Israel? Lessee – just after His death (and Zombification)the Holy Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, Jerusalem was laid to waste, and the Jews went into exile to begin a 1900 year long night of persecution, — largely at the hands of Jesus' followers.
      4) Establish a world government run from Jerusalem?
      5) Return all the exiled Jews to Jerusalem?
      Don't forget that during that time, there were MANY claimaints to the Messiah role like Simon of Peraea, Athronges, Menahem ben Judah, Vespasian, Simon bar Kokhba, etc. ad nauseum.

      July 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Greg

      Thanks for the oppurtunity Doc.
      I will work backwards if that is ok.
      Jesus is the son of The Living God, son meaning rightful heir to His kingdom(every other heir such as myself is adpoted through Jesus’s finished work on the cross), The Holy God has only proclaimed one to be His beloved Son and this message was heard by many people. The claims of any other so called messiah are false and have been proven to be so over the past 2000 years as it was the Gospel of Jesus Christ that has spread to end parts of the earth which is also a fulfillment of scripture.
      The 1000 year reign of Jesus the Christ has not began as of yet and the rebuilding of the temple was a refernce to Himself, for Jesus the Christ is the true Temple/Tabernacle and is alive and seated at the right hand of His Father, The Holy God.
      Jesus was born from the egg of the woman but the seed was of The Holy God placed into Mary by the His Spirit(The Holy God even refered to this plan after Adams original sin when He was cursing the serpent, the devil, He said “I will put enimity between your seed and her seed” Gen 3:15, as you know a woman does not have seed but The Holy God was forshadowing His plan for bringing back a right relationship between Himself and man). This was not a human act so that no human could take credit for the gift that The Holy God has given.
      The Hebrew word almah (עלמה), was translated by Hebrew scholars and not by Christians. The words meaning is a young woman of childbearing age who has not yet had a child. It is translated in the Song of Songs 6:18 as virgin also. The agreed upon reason that this word was used instead of the Hebrew word bethulah (בְּתוּלָה) was to emphasis that she would be a young woman and a virgin.
      I do not see a lot or for that matter any prophecies that are up for debate.

      I love you and hope that you will see the TRUTH.

      July 30, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • Greg

      "opportunity"

      July 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
  3. b4bigbang

    Jen: "This is the same tired argument about slippery slope....that next polygamy, incest, and marriage with animals will be legalized. Hasn't happened in any place where gay marriage is already legal, but it doesn't stop people from making crap up....."

    Sam Yaza: "...i would like to see polyandry and Polygamy legalized..."

    cleareye1: "All of those kinds of "marriages" should be legal"

    Now what's that about making up slippery slope 'crap'?

    July 28, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So you think that two posts on an anonymous board are evidence of something, b4?

      Really, you are beyond silly.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Yes tom, it's called anecdotal evidence. This represents a sample of the general population.
      Oh and btw, while i cant speak for the other poster, i will weigh in on the NAMBLA thing:

      Tom: "So you can't cite a SINGLE state or country where NAMBLA has won a single case in this quest of theirs?"

      Again, dont know what the original poster's thoughts are, but as per my original post, my answer is that you wont see ANY action taken to further broaden the definition of marriage, nor to normalize any other deviant behavior UNTIL the gays win over the hearts and minds of the straight population AND get the laws changed in the vast majority of states.

      Why confuse the voters? One issue at a time!

      July 29, 2012 at 12:04 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You really are a dumb kid, aren't you?

      There's no conspiracy. There's no agenda. You really need to educate yourself, b4.

      July 29, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Sam Yaza

      hahahhaha funny,, i do not speak for the LGBT community on that one, polyandry and Polygamy should be legal once again it is between consenting adults and in some cultures it is normal,.. America was built to be a melting pot of culture so why try to control others religious and cultural right as long as no one is harmed there is nothing wrong with it

      July 29, 2012 at 12:12 am |
    • Sam Yaza

      it harm none, do what ye will. that's freedom and that the American way

      July 29, 2012 at 12:14 am |
    • b4bigbang

      I never used the word 'conspiracy', that's coming from the other posters. I didnt even use the phrase 'hidden agenda'.
      No, I'm merely referring to the 'plan of things to be done' on the part of the gay-rights activists.

      July 29, 2012 at 12:29 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I didn't say you said "hidden agenda". I said there's no "agenda", which is what you claimed. As for "conspiracy", what you describe is exactly that. And it's ridiculous. If you really think there is some sinister plan by some sort of "gay mafia" to inst itute polygamy or marriage with children, you're even more ignorant and brainwashed than I could have imagined. NAMBLA is a fringe group. NO ONE takes them seriously and they're not any kind of a political force. But why bother telling you anything? You've been convinced by your fundie church that there's some plot by "the gays". Nothing I say will make it clear to you that what most gays want is simply to be able to marry the consenting adult they love. You sound like a moron when you write nonsense about gays waiting until they've achieved this goal to try to push for polygamy, bestiality, and pederasty. I'm starting to think you really are as dumb and as young as you appear.

      I'm fed up with your ignorance, b4. You're not worth my time.

      July 29, 2012 at 12:40 am |
    • b4bigbang

      What I'm saying is not that the gays have on their agenda a plan to help NAMBLA, rather that they *should* have a long-range plan for legitimizing the bi lifestyle, that is if they're truly fully behind the bis – seeing as how they've included them in their LGBT acronym.

      I recognize that the LGBT community have always apparently distanced themselves from the pe dos – for now.

      Tom tom, what would *you* like to see in regards to alternate marriage? Should the State condone group marriage and treat it like traditional american marriage, with tax breaks, legal rights of multiple spouses, etc?

      July 29, 2012 at 12:56 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Go find someone who cares enough to educate you, b4. I'm not interested in wasting time on you.

      July 29, 2012 at 1:02 am |
    • sam Yaza

      there's nothing wrong with the bi lifestyle, so what are we the latest target of your lies, we just love people for who they are, s3x gender don't matter, its like i said

      nope you wrong you see tr@nss3x4@ls provide a good way out,.. but never the less B!s3x4@l!ty is about loving some one regardless of s3x or Gender-identi.ty we can love just one person whether their male or female, its not about sleeping around or multiple partners,.. although that fun too♥

      on that note yeah i would like to see polyandry and Polygamy legalized, i would also like to see prost.itution and drugs legal government should not be in the controlling morality game thats religion,.. and the 2 should be separate so individuals have a right to their religion, once we bleed the lines we inhibit the free exercise of, I'm really getting sick of the government inhibiting my religion, which is all caused by you Christians, g@y marriage is my religious right

      July 29, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The phrase "Consenting Adults" obviously had no meaning to bang. That's the problem with religious alarmists. They focus so hard on what they fear, they fail to be objective.

      July 29, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      It's like the slippery slope of suffrage.
      First it was blacks people, then women, then children, domestic animals, convicted criminals, and inanimate objects.
      The very fabric of democracy came undone when white, christian, land-owning males ceased to be the only people who could vote.

      July 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm |
  4. Greg

    Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son
    Time will tell the story and then we can look back at OUR bad decisions and say "God why did you let this happen", hindsight is 20/20.

    July 28, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So you can't cite a SINGLE state or country where NAMBLA has won a single case in this quest of theirs?

      Why are you such a little coward you can't admit it?

      July 28, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  5. Whiskey Preston

    I thought this Billy Graham fossil died two hundred years ago...guess he is still lingering like his antiquated beliefs.

    July 28, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
  6. LinCA

    Seeing the support for Chick-fil-A, I am amazed, no flabbergasted, no at a complete and utter loss to understand, how anyone, and I mean anyone, can hold these beliefs. How can any sane person, and I mean anyone, believe that there is a rational reason to discriminate against a disliked minority based on their religion? Isn't is excruciatingly obvious that those views are wrong, no, more than wrong, immoral?

    We live in a society that provides freedom of religion. The US Constitution, as the absolute highest law of the land, guarantees that everyone can freely exercise their own religion, and worship as they see fit. Freely exercising your own chosen religion is only possible if everyone else keeps their religion out of your life. The US Constitution therefor guarantees that religion can never set secular policy.

    If religion can never set secular policy, the religious argument against same sex marriage only affects those that adhere to that particular religion. It doesn't ever apply to anyone that doesn't subscribe to that religion. So, if you think that your religion prohibits same sex marriage, you are free to not enter into one, but you are not free to prevent anyone else from entering into one.

    Claiming that there is a religious argument to prohibit secular same sex marriage, IS trying to force your religion on someone else. It is the textbook definition of bigotry.

    July 28, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Marc

      Christians have a history of trying to claim things that pre-date them as their own. Marriage is about property transfer – period. The bigotry of this nonsense is trumped only by the ignorance of history – but that's standard fare for the celebration of stupidity that IS today's conservatism.

      July 28, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @LinCA: do you think it was religious bigotry guiding the establishment to ban poly from Mormon practice?
      Do you think it was religious bigotry that caused the court to side with AA in firing one of their employees who used peyote to kick his drinking habit?

      If so, are you outraged? And what to do about it? And if you're not outraged – why not?

      July 29, 2012 at 12:42 am |
    • LinCA

      @b4bigbang

      You said, "do you think it was religious bigotry guiding the establishment to ban poly from Mormon practice?"
      Since most polygamous practices are far from gender equal, I have little issue with banning the practice. While banning it may have been heavy handed, it was probably the least messy solution.

      I feel that if adults want to form a family with more than 2 adults, they should be able to do so. The potential very complex legal ramifications causes governments to have good reason to not officially recognize it.

      You said, "Do you think it was religious bigotry that caused the court to side with AA in firing one of their employees who used peyote to kick his drinking habit?"
      Not familiar with this case. Do you have some references?

      July 29, 2012 at 2:24 am |
    • Chuck

      Bigotry and Catholicism go hand in hand. The Catholic Church supported fascist causes during WW2. They supported war crimes in Yugoslavia against Serbs and Communists. See the history of Archbishop Aloysius Stepinac who was later martyred and beatified by Pope John Paul. A war criminal was put in the position of near sainthood...

      July 29, 2012 at 10:33 am |
  7. Sam Yaza

    http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers.11169247

    July 28, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  8. Solomon

    So now Billy Graham is echoing the Nazi-like sentiments of Cathy. Oooh, and he was so close to getting into Heaven. He won't be recognized on that fateful day. Sorry Billy boy, you blew it. Anyway, Chick-fil-a's chicken is greasy and pasty.

    July 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
  9. Sam Yaza

    nope you wrong you see tr@nss3x4@ls provide a good way out,.. but never the less B!s3x4@l!ty is about loving some one regardless of s3x or Gender-identi.ty we can love just one person whether their male or female, its not about sleeping around or multiple partners,.. although that fun too♥

    on that note yeah i would like to see polyandry and Polygamy legalized, i would also like to see prost.itution and drugs legal government should not be in the controlling morality game thats religion,.. and the 2 should be separate so individuals have a right to their religion, once we bleed the lines we inhibit the free exercise of, I'm really getting sick of the government inhibiting my religion, which is all caused by you Christians, g@y marriage is my religious right

    July 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
  10. Bob

    Sodomy, teen pregnancy, more taxes more money to the undeserved, more give aways , more restrictions on personal freedoms, kids taken from parents, parents told they cant punish thier children and the state steps in, country leaders that cant do sh. it more bigotry from the socialist left, yet more crying that they are the ones hurt

    July 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What are you blabbering about, you lunatic? Gay marriage isn't creating ANY of the problems you're frothing at the mouth about.

      Why are you not being treated for your delusions?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • cleareye1

      Most of what you list is approved in certain cases in the Bible. Grow up one day and think for yourself. You'll be surprised how nice it is.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I did some looking to try to find evidence that the legalization of gay marriage has had any negative effects anywhere.

      Guess what? There haven't been any. The only places you see any of the nonsense Boob's been spewing is on religious websites, and they are predicting negative effects that they believe will occur–but they can't cite any that have occurred where gay marriage is legal.

      July 28, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Marc

      Marriage pre-dates Christianity. It pre-dates most religion. And for millenia, it was more about property transfer than anything else. I am sick of a bunch of stupid bigots who try to claim that their ignorance, their bigotry, their selfishness, and their meanness is, in any way, superior. The ignorance of history doesn't make you right or better. Neither does the zombielike gullibility that forces you to follow loudmouthed charlatans who pretend to speak for a supreme being. Faith is inferior to logic and reason. By definition. The basic tenet of Christianity is to treat others as you would be treated. That makes the Cathys, Graham,and anybody who supports bigtry LOUSY "christians."

      July 28, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • Ego_Death

      so your complaining about things people do and then indicate that personal freedom is being fringed upon... I am not sure i get it. Shouldn't people be free to do those things you mentioned?

      July 28, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
  11. tricia

    so sad that people that they have the right to choose who others love. If it doesn't effect you or your household....BUTT OUT REPUBLICANS

    July 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • Bob

      It does effect us

      July 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • tricia

      how does it effect you if i am in my home with a man or a woman? please do tell

      July 28, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • tricia

      hear that??? CRICKETS CHIRPING

      July 28, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's been Booby's response every single time he's asked that question.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  12. jhl

    Gods, guns, bigotry, and chick-a-fila. The sound of the religious right

    July 28, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • db

      Spoken by someone who appears to be intolerant of people who have an opinion different from their own.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
  13. coca-kola

    I am glad of Graham's statement. We are become like Sod0m and g0morah. We are engrossed in sin and filth and there is no end to the s1nful free fall but its straight to he11 that this nation is going. Thank God for the few who are courageous enough to stand t=against such an evi1 force (gays)

    July 28, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Oldwhiteman

      Christians like you are the greatest proof there is no loving, benevolent god. Keep talking...you're like that Crystal Springs Baptist Church in Mississippi that denied a black couple a wedding in the church because they didn't want to set a precedent of marrying blacks. Sound familiar....

      July 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
    • j

      coca. Are you baptist, evangelical, presbyterian. I hope you're not Catholic. You give us a bad image.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
    • Ego_Death

      wait to you find out that there is no such thing as sin.. too bad you will have to pass from this life to understand what its really about.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
  14. coca-kola

    It amazes me that people are not allowed to believe or have convictions which differ from the left. I am amazed Cathy stated what he bekieves and now nothing short of his demise and destruction is acceptable. WOW

    July 28, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Life imitates art coca-kola – ever read Brave New World?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • JWT

      They are allowed to have their opinions and we are allowed to critisize and boycott them,.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Oldwhiteman

      Your convictions are to spread hate and deserve no respect. Good folks like you used to sneak around in white hoods and burn crosses. You should move to Crystal Springs Mississippi and attend the white church there that denied that black couple recently. I suppose those three dudes that broke in to that lesbian's home and carved anti-gay slurs in her skin recently were just acting on their convictions. You make me puke

      July 28, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
  15. b4bigbang

    I'm still waiting for the day when the LGBT community files suit declaring discrimination for their bi bros and sisters, demanding that they be given legal marriage status.

    I'm assuming the law suit would include bi people who want to have a multi-partner marriage, as this would be the only way to truly get the old religion-inspired traditional bigotry off the books while giving the bis full access to their right to the pursuit of happiness.

    As for their kids who will inevitably walk in on some of them while they're having their scientifically-proven 'normal' or.gies, seeing their mother(s) getting nailed by several guys at once – well, don't be surprised when they grow up and we have a LOT more mass-murderers.

    Btw, don't look for them to start demanding this right until they get the gay thing all legalized. That's the way they work – gradualism, step by step.

    July 28, 2012 at 8:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "That's the way they work."

      You're starting to sound as idiotic as Keith. It's all a big conspiracy! "They" have an "agenda".

      What paranoid silliness, b4.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • Jen

      So B4, you're saying that as long as a kid walks in on their straight mommy and daddy doing it doggy style (in your words it's inevitable), that's totally fine? Interesting...

      July 28, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      B4 must get his rocks off imagining these "or gies" that bis3xual people have.

      You're reading too many Maxim and Playboy articles, b4. And you have a very vivid imagination. Do you actually KNOW any people who are bi? Any of them talk about having group s3x?

      Really, honey, you need to get a girlfriend that you don't need a bicycle pump to inflate.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • Jen

      No kidding Tom Tom. Moronic to assume that most gays and bis engage in group s-x (but straights don't). Also I guess only straight parents have locks on our bedroom doors.......

      July 28, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Of course they have an agenda. Why else would they wait for years until a large portion of voters had come around to viewing their lifestyle as ok before going public with the marriage initiative?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Btw Tom, ALL special-interest groups have an agenda.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Jen

      Ummmm.....so there was a chance that it would pass (zero support from voters would give the initiative little chance of going through)....same reason women spent years working towards more equality before starting a public initiative to obtain the right to vote....no doubt you would have been against that 'agenda' as well......

      July 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      Oh, and the last time I checked the definition of bi, it said 'people who are attracted to both se xes'.
      Are you saying that there will never be an example of a bi person demanding legal right to marry both a man and a woman?
      Saying there's absolutely no bis out there who actually have two or more significant others?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, ghouls, goblins or guns

      And no special interest group has a bigger agenda than the believers, who are fighting to keep their mental illness from being recognized as just that.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, ghouls, goblins or guns

      And what's so bad about having multiple spouses – it was good enough for many of characters in The Babble.

      The living arrangements of and seacts engaged in by consenting adults should not be the business of the government or anyone else. If *you* don't like something, *you* don't have to engage in it.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, ghouls, goblins or guns

      "seacts" should have been "se/xual acts"...

      July 28, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      My gosh, b4, you're just nuts. You don't have a clue what people are really like, do you?

      I repeat: do you know any gays? Andy bi-s3xual people?

      As for your silly 'agenda' nonsense, gays are not a "special interest group" anymore than blacks were before the civil rights act was passed.

      How old are you? Your ridiculous prejudices aren't based in reality, and it leads me to believe you're a dumb kid.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @Jen: then it's a good thing i didnt assume what you are claiming or i would be a moron.
      I know full well that a small minority of straights do the mate swap thing. A small minority who are not organizing to get full legal status nor contacting the news agancies, demanding that these trysts be legislated into "normal behavior".

      The gays, on the other hand, have organized with bis and transgender people for years now, as a social-change force to be reckoned with.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      @Jen, you know, until now, I didn't think b4 was really that stupid.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      But now I can see he's dumb as a box of hair.

      B4, your conspiracy theory nuttiness is just plain laughable. What do you think gays plan to do? Force you to be gay? Make you marry your dog?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
    • b4bigbang

      @Jen: then it's a good thing i didnt as sume what you are claiming or i would be a mor on.
      I know full well that a small minority of straights do the m ate swap thing. A small minority who btw are NOT organizing to get full legal status nor contacting the news agencies, demanding that these trysts be legislated into "normal behavior".

      The gays, on the other hand, have organized with bis and transg ender people for years now, as a social-change force to be reckoned with.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Jen

      I have no idea if that will happen b4 – I'm not psychic. The bi-s-ual people I know only have relationships with one person at a time, though I'm sure just like straight people some are with several people at a time.

      This is the same tired argument about slippery slope....that next polygamy, incest, and marriage with animals will be legalized. Hasn't happened in any place where gay marriage is already legal, but it doesn't stop people from making crap up.....

      July 28, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I would like some statistics about the mass murder bit, b4. Can you cite any evidence that mass murderers are more likely to have seen their mothers going at it with multiple partners than the average person? Do you have any comparison between murderers who've witnessed bis3xual encounters and those who've only walked in on their own parents going at it between the sheets?

      Really, I haven't laughed this hard since the last time I read one of Keith's posts.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, ghouls, goblins or guns

      Assuming b4 is a member of a family, he likely does know some gays...

      There is a hight probability that 10% of his family members are gay. Of course, they probably call them one of many hateful names.

      And I bet that a not insignificant percentage of his family have engaged in adultery, divorce and abortion, and that he continues to socilaize with them as if they were perfect christians, but it is much more important to ostracize gays.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      sorry this goes here

      nope you wrong you see tr@nss3x4@ls provide a good way out,.. but never the less B!s3x4@l!ty is about loving some one regardless of s3x or Gender-identi.ty we can love just one person whether their male or female, its not about sleeping around or multiple partners,.. although that fun too♥

      on that note yeah i would like to see polyandry and Polygamy legalized, i would also like to see prost.itution and drugs legal government should not be in the controlling morality game thats religion,.. and the 2 should be separate so individuals have a right to their religion, once we bleed the lines we inhibit the free exercise of, I'm really getting sick of the government inhibiting my religion, which is all caused by you Christians, g@y marriage is my religious right

      July 28, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How many countries in which gay marriage is legal have seen any of the things you're predicting, b4? How many of the states where it's legal have? Any of them?

      July 28, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Jen

      Mate swapping is being legalized???? News to me....

      Well Tom Tom, b4 has asked me before how it's possible that my husband and I could be together when he is Catholic and I am agnostic. But...how...can...different...people...be...together....shocking!!! I'm sure b4's mouth drops open whenever he sees an interracial couple together too.....

      July 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I thought b4 was in his 20s, but now I'm beginning to think he's about 17, and has never been out of the county where he was born.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      note i don't qualify to speak for all B!s3x4@ls, because i have been in 0rg!3s and i have been around, im a recovering s3x addict still clean though,.. but i do know im marring just one person i have devoted my life to that person,. and i have had little to no desire to sleep around on her,.. nor did i ever cheat on a person, i was always ether single or in an open relationship, my spouse and i are going to settle down and raise a family

      July 28, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • cleareye1

      All of those kinds of "marriages" should be legal. The government should not be enforcing Biblical concepts. If science can prove a reason for not allowing these arrangements then it should be voted on.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      He's probably equally shocked to learn (oops – he doesn't learn, inappropriate word) – hears – about theists and gays that have been married or in monogamous relationships for 25+ years. Or that they have children brought up without the bullshit of religion and are not criminals.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      i don't have the numbers but i can safely say more criminals are religious then atheist,... like hells agels are a group of evangelical motorcyclist,..or how ever MS13 prays to god before he sprays,...and every crip spend his Sundays at church

      July 28, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Greg

      Next we will have NAMBLA (The North American Man/Boy Love Association) demanding there right to pursuit of happiness, where does it stop? Enough of the pseudo minority groups we must have morality or we will have chaos!

      July 28, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Greg, what don't you understand about the words "consenting adults?"

      July 28, 2012 at 11:07 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      a child can not consent
      two adults can
      we are allowing to adults to enter into contract and consent to each-other,..

      but i do see your fear as a pagan,.. we once allowed that however just as we once allowed slavery are religion changes with time we grow and we no longer condone those actions

      our society protect people from being abused we are not about to take the child right to life and liberty it is harmful to the child,.. that the difference g@y marriage is not harmful to the adults or children,.. their is nothing harmful about 2 people wanting to love each other and raise a family

      July 28, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Greg, how long has gay marriage been legal in some states? Has your prediction come true in any of them? How about in other countries where gay marriage is legal? Anywhere?

      July 28, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      you know my friend grow up fine,he is strait hes in the air-force, and NASA has been looking is way, he has two dads,, hes always had 2 dads, their married now but thy have been married for 35 years only not legally,.. they got a great life and the child is more the normal,..

      July 28, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
    • Greg

      Just so all are educated, NAMBLA has been working for years to abolish the age of consent laws. What makes anyone think that once we go down the slippery slope that they will not get there way!

      July 28, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Have they gotten THEIR (not "there") way in any state where gay marriage is legal? Any country? Can you cite a single case they've won on this? Or are you just going to ignore precedent and my question?

      July 28, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
    • Greg

      Time will tell the story and then we can look back at OUR bad decisions and say "God why did you let this happen", hindsight is 20/20.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So, in all the time gay marriages have been legal in many other countries, and in the time they've been legal in 5 of our own states and DC, there hasn't been a SINGLE case in which NAMBLA has succeeded in its quest, right, Greg?

      Too bad you're such a dishonest little coward you can't admit it.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
  16. Chronic Smoker

    Billy Graham gave me an outstanding reach around just the other day.

    July 28, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • John

      Billy Graham: Outstanding leader with great views and concern for normal behavior.
      You: Moron and borderline pervert

      July 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm |
    • JWT

      Perhaps so but smoker is a better person than graham.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • cleareye1

      Silly comment.
      50 years ago I almost walk down the aisle at one of his 'events.' Glad I didn't. I enjoy freethinking and my creative imagination without limits.

      July 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Nope!

      "50 years ago I almost walk down the aisle at one of his 'events.' Glad I didn't. I enjoy freethinking and my creative imagination without limits."

      Another fool!

      July 28, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
  17. kevgr5

    I guess if Joseph Goebbels had a restaurant it would be ok to go support his business to as long as he had good food?

    July 28, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • truth be told

      Joseph Goebbels has been dead by suicide since 1945. Where did you find his restaurant?

      July 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm |
    • John

      Sure. Just as it is for the Chicago Mayor< a former and current hate spewer, from this moron president's (lower case for lower class) highest echillon to have RACIST Louis FaraNut help stop violence. Take what you like, leave the rest

      July 28, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
  18. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things ;

    July 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!`

      July 30, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
  19. Bob

    Chick-fil-A spokesman dies amid furor over same-S e marriage Do you see what they are doing that a man that wants to run a business the way he wants has a terror gay organization trying to limit his free speech as well as the city of Chicago wanting to limit him on business permits and saying he cant get a license to run his business and falsely stop a business from going forward. Merry Christmas has been taken away how much more is everyone going to let these losers limit the majority and those who know the truth. Its not only about gays but about socialism about the very same people we see here wanting to change the very fabric of society and not giving a dam about anyone else. wake up start voicing your opinion. They are not afraid to get up and insult us but we cannot do the same. Start to take a active role otherwise Christians will not be able to voice the truth we are the persecuted ones not the gays. The president of Chick only said he was against gay marriage nothing else and this is what happens. What happens to free speech and us being able to speak our mind without ridicule.Start by going to this business and supporting all those that are against this use the tactics they use. We see a attacks here and there is no logic no caring no truth.

    July 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Delusional gibberish.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Bob, the president of Chick-fil-A is financially supporting a group that is trying to deny a specific minority it's equal rights. That goes beyond free speech. That is direct action in support of a cause that harms others.

      Just because you don't think gays deserve rights doesn't mean that the rest of the nation, or the Consti.tution agrees with you. What you are really whining about is that good Americans aren't willing to allow you to legalize your personal bigotry.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
    • truth be told

      There is no right to perversion and sin.

      July 28, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • midwest rail

      truth be told – then you'll be spearheading the movement to make divorce, adultery, etc illegal ??

      July 28, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • truth be told

      No spearhead needed, it is already categorized in Gods Holy Word the Bible, as is all sin, immoral, illegal and deadly.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Another tap-dancing answer from a contemporary faux Christian, who sees nothing wrong with legislating against gay marriage, but sees no need for the same kind of moral legislation for str8 relationships, because God already did so. Moral hypocrites, all.

      July 28, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • John

      AMEN. Enough of this Racist regime

      July 28, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    • Nope!

      "Delusional gibberish"

      Behold another delusional parrot!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      "–ive got a bridge i need to unload for cheap....interested?"

      "were is the bridge located and how much traffic does it get,..."

      The bridge you're on gets much of it(traffic), and it hang sover the pitts of Hell itself.
      It's a gathering place for fools who are having themselves "good time" while going there!
      But it's no party there, not the kind the fools immagine, making sport of joking about it!

      But fools won't listen to warnings, till one day, when their lives are over, they find themselves imprisoned in in that place of the damned, called Hell.
      Yeah, you want to believe it's just a fictional place, so you tell us you wanna proof. But it is not ours to give you "proof" . God doesn't operate that way! He does things on His terms, He is the Lord!
      But there will come a day that you wish you'd listened to those of us who warned you! You'll wish you never mocked God and His people...... Where you're going there is only weeping, mourning, pain, hopelessness and unimaginable sorrow. But the most tormenting is the REGRET and what you've missed, and what could have been!
      You people just don't know how serious your predicament is.... you're just one breath away from finding out... But some of you will find out sooner then you think....you have no promise of tomorrow!

      July 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
  20. Woman

    WOW !!!!!!

    I just had some of their food and I have changed my mind. Ignore all of my previous posts.

    July 28, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • John

      HAHAHAHA

      July 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
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