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July 27th, 2012
10:10 PM ET

Black wedding rejected at white church

(CNN)–A day before their wedding a black couple is told they can't get married at a predominantly white church. WLBT reports.

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  1. Jack

    Hello folks. Everyone is cordially invited to visit – thestarofkaduri.com

    July 28, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Judgement Night

      Spam reported, your website URL and collected related email addresses will be published at http://www.iblocklist.com.

      Too bad you burned your domain name. Correct thinking comes from social practice.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
  2. Rev Lovejoy

    Pastor is a coward. Should have done the wedding at their church.

    July 28, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  3. jacquiesspot

    check the church organizations 501c3.... it can be revoked because of this... FED guidelines are being broken

    July 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • Judgement Night

      That would just be another instance of evil government persecuting the backwards, parochial, and traditionally mentality deficient primates one so often finds in such permanently blighted and third-rate parts of the U.S.

      Europe has states like Greece, Africa has Somalia, the U.S. has the Southeast and Western states, what are you going to do?

      July 28, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  4. JudgementNight

    If these white trash morons are as old as I think they may be, to hell with 'em, they will be dead soon enough anyway. If they aren't, they need to be herded into stinking cattle pens and summarily re-educated or recycled 🙂

    Say hello:
    http://www.fbccrystalsprings.org/
    Dr. Stan Weatherford – Pastor
    Office Phone: 601-892-1149
    Email: drstanfbc@telepak.net

    July 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  5. Melanie

    I am outraged of this blatant act of racism. I am creeped out by the disturbing age difference between the bride and the groom. Initially, I thought the bride was sitting with her father. Daddy issues, anyone?

    I wish them all the best...but eeeewwwww.

    July 28, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Baffled English Rose

      You object to racism but you're okay with ageism then?

      July 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • Melanie

      @Rose...I have no problem with their ages...I said it was creepy...that's my issue and I own it...but still creepy.

      July 29, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  6. test

    test

    July 28, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  7. http://www.meetblackpeople.com

    http://www.meetblackpeople.com

    July 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  8. Bootyfunk

    typical christian racists. but the bible has all kinds of racist cr@p in it, so hardly surprising.

    July 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      here's an example of jesus being a cruel racist:

      Mathew 15:21-28
      21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.
      22 A Canaanite WOMAN from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
      23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
      24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
      25 The WOMAN came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
      26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
      27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
      28 Then Jesus said to her, “WOMAN, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

      hmmm... jesus doesn't seem so compa.ssionate in this story. making a woman, who's daughter only you can help, call her entire race "dogs" before you will help is disgusting, inhumane and racist. but of course once jesus hears the woman call herself a dog ready begging for scraps, he cures the little girl and tells the WOMAN she is worthy. seems pretty cruel to me.

      July 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • truth be told

      buttyfunk doesn't know what a racist is.

      July 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      the woman is a caananite. look up how caananites are viewed in the bible. jesus (or the person who wrote this myth) shared the same view of caananites as shown throughout the bible. jesus says he is only here to help jews, not caananites. read it. only after the woman agrees caananites are a race of dogs does he help her. that sounds pretty damn racist to me.

      of course, people who wrote the bible were just victims of their time when it comes to ethics. modern ethics are far superior to the barbaric ethics offered by the bible. there are rules in the bible for selling your own daughter into slavery, instructions for beating your slaves, etc. disgusting. but all this really just shows that the bible was written by ignorant men in the bronze/iron age, and definitely not divinely inspired.

      July 28, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • truth be told

      It is hard to comprehend that someone would get so much wrong in a Bible passage much less try to convince others of such an obscure and inaccurate interpretation.

      July 28, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      specifically, what did i get wrong?

      i'm going to work. can't wait to hear your excuses when i get home. "oh you just don't understand" is a weak argument.

      July 28, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • Jen

      I'm sure the excuses will be just like all the other excuses we have heard:

      'the slavery in the bible is a good kind of slavery'
      'telling women to shut their mouths in church is just because women had a hard time controlling themselves back then'
      'it's okay that women are told be subservient to their husbands because Jesus also told men to love their wives so it's okay to treat people like property if you love said property'

      And so forth and so on......

      July 28, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Answer

      We'll always hear the spin & damage control from these religious freaks that are always barely hangin' on. They can't stand that their little pathetic piece of delusion is about to come crashing down.

      July 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Booty, read 28 again. Jesus healed her daughter. The terminology of dog was used by society at the time explaining this woman was not jewish. But, then again, you post your nonsense just to stir up trouble.

      July 29, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
  9. Leslie

    When the ungodly behavior of church members makes a man of God cower and concede to their wishes, something is wrong. This kind of junk gives followers of Christ a bad name. When the gospel of hatred and old traditions overshadows the gospel of Christ there is a problem. The church members who objected to the wedding of couple who just happened to be black will have to answer to God at the end of this life. I hope they have an explanation. Oh, that's right. There is none.

    July 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      What year was this wedding to have occurred? Was the church booked for that date? There is so much factual information missing from this article.

      July 29, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  10. Baffled English Rose

    I have just watched this video after reading the headline. Prior to listening to the accounts given by the couple and pastor, I had assumed that the headline must have been purposely misleading to attract attention and perhaps there was a legal reason for the decision, e.g. one of the couple was still married. Now I have heard that racism seems to be the problem I am outraged. I am struggling to believe/accept that such behaviour not only happens in America in 2012 but is also accepted.

    Shame on all who accept such vulgar conduct.

    July 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • Gerry

      Don't know why you should be so baffled. Seems you work hard to deny what blacks have been saying is going on all the time and can only accept the truth when the perpetrators are too stupid to hide their racism in more subtle behaviour. Those who work so hard to deny the truth about racism and then act baffled only when they're practically hit in the head with it are part of the problem.

      July 28, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  11. andrew

    'Red and Yellow, Black and White, they are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world.'
    If you can't stand up and sing that song – it's the one we sing in all Baptist churches – then you aren't a Christian, you're a bigot racist – a POLITICAL CHRISTIAN I call you. Jesus Christ DESPISED POLITICAL CHRISTIANS.

    July 28, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by 'andrew' is an instance of the No True Scotsmen fallacy.

      http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

      July 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
    • TR6

      Christians are great at talk the talk (or even sing it); but, when it comes to walking the walk they don’t do quite so well

      July 28, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
  12. me

    luckily they found a nearby church !

    July 28, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
  13. highplainsparson

    This unchristian behavior sadly has deep roots in some churches. Change is hard and takes time. Glad to know they have a pastor willing to work on it. Embracing brothers and sisters of all races is part of following the Bible.

    July 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      No its not, the bible is all about killing and enslaving those who think and look different.

      July 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
  14. john

    racist white people who go to church ? They are more dangerous than the talibaan

    July 28, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • hey mr. talibaan

      talley me banana daylight come and me want to come home

      July 28, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I'd have to disagree John.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  15. Hypatia

    More Xian hate. They're as bad as the Taliban.

    July 28, 2012 at 11:09 am |
  16. karenskellyphoto

    What? Are these church members living in the 50s? And they call themselves Christians? I thought you were supposed to "Love Thy Neighbor", it doesnt say Love they neighbor, but only if they're white. Ridiculous people. Congratulations on your marriage.

    July 28, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  17. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things, .

    July 28, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Satan

      saladandchips.com

      July 28, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Huebert

      Such as?

      July 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • reality check

      Does your God really need to advice on how to handle a situation? That is effectively what prayer is, the pleading with god to change his/her mind. I thought god was supposed to know best?

      If prayer works so well, why go to the doctor? "Physician, heal thyself" Oh wait, you thank god ONLY after the doctor performed his/her job.

      July 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
    • TR6

      “Prayer changes things,”
      It doesn’t seem to have had much effect on Christian racism. Or did I misread my calendar and it is really 1812?

      July 28, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
  18. Kindness

    Kindness
    This is my experience... Thank you.

    MY personal testimony.
    A thought to consider without an ego response

    I Accepted Jesus christ as my lord and saviour. You never know how soon is too late. Transcend the worldly illusion of enslavement.
    The world denounces truth....

    Accepting Jesus Christ (for me) resulted in something like seeng a new colour. You will see it .....but will not be able to clearly explain it to anyone else..... Its meant to be that way to transend any selfism within you.

    Also... much the world arranges "surrounding dark matter into something to be debated" in such a way that protects/inflates the ego.

    The key is be present and transcend our own desire to physically see evidence. We don't know anyways by defending our own perception of dark matter.

    Currently.... most of us are constructing our own path that suits our sin lifestyle. Were all sinners. Knowing that we are is often an issue. But both christians and non are sinners. Even once we are saved by christs merciful grace we will still experience adversity to mold us to adhering to the truth.
    We will slip... But not fall of the ship ...carrying us onward to perfection in christs grace.

    We don't like to Let go and let god. We want control to some degree. This is what Jesus asks us to do. "Follow me".
    It's the hardest thing to do... but is done by letting the truth of scripture lead you (redemptive revelation)... as I said .

    Try reading corinthians and see if it makes sense to you. Try it without a pre conceived notion of it being a fairy tale.
    See the truth...
    do we do what it says in todays society... is it relevant... so many have not recently read and only hinge their philosophy on what they have heard from some other person...which may have been full of arogance pride or vanity..

    Look closely at the economy ponzi, look at how society idolizes Lust , greed , envy, sloth, pride of life, desire for knowledge, desire for power, desire for revencge,gluttony with food etc .

    Trancsend the temporal world.

    Just think if you can find any truth you can take with you ....in any of these things. When you die your riches go to someone who will spend away your life..... You will be forgotten.... history will repeat iteslf.... the greatest minds knowledge fade or are eventually plagerzed..... your good deeds will be forgotten and only give you a fleeting temporary reward . your learned teachings are forgotten or mutated..... your gold is transfered back to the rullers that rule you through deception. Your grave will grow over . This is truth .

    Trancsend your egoism and free yourself from this dominion of satan. Understand you are a sinner and part of the collective problem of this worldly matrix... Repent.... Repent means knowing (to change) The Holy spirit (within) will convict you beyond what you think you can do by yourself. Grace is given to those who renounce the world. That are" in" the world but not "of " the world.

    Evidence follows faith. Faith does not follow evidence..... Faith ....above reason in Jesus Christ.

    Faith comes by Reading or Hearing the word of god from the bible . Ask Jesus in faith for dicernment and start reading the new testament... You will be shocked when you lay down your preconceived notions and ....see and hear truth ... see how christ sets an example ... feel the truth....

    Read Ecclesiastes. Read romans or corinthians.

    You cant trancend your own egoism by adapting a world philosophy to suit your needs. Seek the truth in Christ.

    Sell all your cleverness and purchase true bewilderment. You don't get what you want ....you get what you are by faith above reason in christ.

    I promise this has been the truth for me. In Jesus christ .

    Think of what you really have to lose. ...your ego?

    Break the Matrix of illusion that holds your senses captive.

    once you do . you too will have the wisdom of God that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Saved By grace through Faith. Just like seeing a new colour.... can't explain it to a transient caught in the matrix of worldly deception.
    You will also see how the world suppresses this information and distorts it

    You're all smart people . I tell the truth. Its hard to think out of the box when earthly thinking is the box.
    I'ts a personal free experience you can do it free anytime . Don't wait till you are about to die.. START PUTTING YOUR TREASURES WHERE THEY REALLY MATTER >
    Its awsome and It's just between you and Jesus

    my testimony

    Romans 10:9

    "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

    July 28, 2012 at 10:17 am |
    • Sally

      Christianity IS the matrix of illusion.

      July 28, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Atheism is the matrix of refusing truth and believing lies.

      July 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  19. ArthurP

    A few excerpts from an article called: Marriage by Barbara G. Walker
    =======================================================

    The word marriage came from the Latin maritare, union under the ausp.ices of the Goddess Aphrodite-Mari.  Because the Goddess's patronage was constantly invoked in every aspect of marriage, Christian fathers were opposed to the insti.tution.  Origen declared, "Matrimony is impure and unholy, a means of se.xual passion." St. Jerome said the primary purpose of a man of God was "to cut down with an ax of Virginity the wood of Marriage".(1)  St. Ambrose said marriage was a
    crime against god, because it changed the state of virginity that God gave every man and woman at birth.(2)

    St. Augustine flatly stated that marriage is a sin and St. Paul damned marriage with faint praise, remarking that to marry was only better than to burn( 1 cor. 7:9).

    Saturninus said God made only two kinds of people, good men and evil women.  Marriage perpetuated the deviltry of women, who dominated men through the magic of se.x(8).  Centuries later, St. Bernard still proclaimed that it was easier of a man to bring back the dead to life than to live with a woman without endangering ones soul.(9)

    Priests abandoned the churches' rule of celibacy and began to take wives during the 5th and 6th centuries.  This continued to the 11th century, when papal decretals commanded married clergymen to turn their wives out  of their homes and sell their children as slaves. (5)

    The church displayed remarkable reluctance to deal with the mater of marriage at all.  During the Middle Ages there was no ecclesiastical definition of a valid marriage nor of any contract to validate one. Churchmen seemed to have no ideas at all on the subject(6)

    The earliest form of Christian marriage was a simple blessing of the newly wedded, "in facie ecclesiae" –outside the churches closed doors– to keep the pollution of lust out of God's house.  This blessing was a technical violation of canon law, but it became popular and gradually won status.(7).

    There was no sacrament of marriage until the 16th century (3). Catholic scholars say the wedding ceremony was "imposed on" a reluctant church, and "nothing is more remarkable that the tardiness with which liturgical forms for the marriage ceremony were evolved."  It is perhaps not remarkable to find that these liturgical forms were not evolved by the church at all, but borrowed from pagan common law (4).

    1-William Fielding, Customs of Courtship and Marriage, 82, 114
    2-Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol 3, 373
    3-William Fielding, Customs of Courtship and Marriage, 233
    4-Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol 3, 248-249
    5-Jacobus de. Voragine, The Golden Legend 90-91
    6-Ronald Pearsall, The Worm in the Bud , 162-63
    7-Encyclopedia Britannica, "Marriage"
    8-Vern Bullough,The Subordinate se.x, 103, 112
    9-Joseph Cambell, Myths to Live By, 95

    July 28, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Peace2All

      @ArthurP

      Interesting... well-researched post.

      Peace...

      July 28, 2012 at 6:53 pm |
  20. Jack

    Hello everyone. Each of you are cordially invited to visit ... thestarofkaduri.com

    July 28, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Satan

      Don't forget saladandchips.com, its got pics of jack and his dog. Check it out!

      July 28, 2012 at 10:32 am |
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