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July 30th, 2012
10:53 PM ET

Dutchman builds replica Noah's Ark after flood dream

By Tim Hume, for CNN

London (CNN) - A Dutchman has built a replica of Noah's Ark to biblical proportions, following a dream his homeland would be flooded.

Johan Huibers, a wealthy businessman, used the ancient measurement of the cubit - the length of a man's arm from elbow to fingertips - to build the vessel to the dimensions specified in the book of Genesis.

The finished craft - which has just been opened to the public on the Merwede River in the Dutch town of Dordrecht - is 300 cubits long (about 450 feet or 137 meters), 50 cubits wide (about 70 feet or 21 meters), and 30 cubits high (about 45 feet or 14 meters).

FULL STORY
- CNN's Laura Koran

Filed under: Bible • Christianity

soundoff (214 Responses)
  1. No Truth, Just Claims

    The boat is not the issue with the story, the rest of the details are the reason why it cannot believed to be anything more than a fairy tale.

    July 31, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  2. mitch

    @Cq
    The Munk debate...Hitchens vs Blair
    Resolved, religion is a force for good in the world.

    Before the debate..
    Agree 25%
    Disagree 55%
    Undecided 20%

    Can you change your position
    Yes 76%
    No 24%

    Post debate
    32% Agree that religion is a force for good in the world.
    68% DIsagree.

    The trouble, in my opinion, is that christians refuse to admit that religion is not just restricted to their bible myths, but must be inclusive of all the religious myths that exsist in the world. If you continue to maintain that only your crowd are destined for salvation because they believe in jesus and the other 5 billion or so can go to hell, your religion is just stupid.

    July 31, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      A few of the unspoken premeses are that debates are in any way a way to get at the truth, that the the debators have skills at debating, and that good thinks would not be done by good people, in the absence of religion. Debates are a waste of time.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Cq

      realbuckyball
      I think that another point is that many Christian apologists, like C.S. Lewis, Aquinas, and others, string sentences together that sound very beautiful, but aren't actually logical or even reasonable arguments when viewed closely. They are very rousing speeches, aimed at appealing to people's emotional desire to believe in the miraculous, but that is all. Many times people seem not to be able to distinguish the difference between an argument for God's existence, and an argument for the benefits of believing in God's existence. It's like taking the famous editorial "Yes, Virginia, There Is A Santa Claus" as a serious attempt to prove that the old elf is really up in the arctic running a toy factory instead of what it was intended to be.

      July 31, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Actually the President of King's College in NY, actually uses that "utilitarian" argument with Ehrman, in their debate. Dr. Bart sat there, incredulously looking at him, like "he can't really be saying what I'm hearing, is he ?". The Pres of King's was using the argument that Christianity offers comfort, and therefor is more valuable, and non-belief does not. Like he gets to make up something, as it's more useful. Breathtaking ignorance, and the guy is a COLLEGE PRESIDENT !!!

      The reason I hate debates, is that they don't offer anyone the time to, as you say, really examine what's being asserted. Craig, in his debate with Ehrman used a "fake" equation, (for the probability of the resurrection), and flipped through it so fast, no one had time to see the solution was really "zero", while Craig says it's one, (1). It's when I figured out Craig was a charlatan, and a Sophist. He pulls rabbits out of hats, as he's paid to do those tricks.

      July 31, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Cq

      realbuckyball
      I've noticed creationists actually lie and knowingly misrepresent the actual science too. Somehow, I can't imagine actual believers, people who think that God would disapprove of lying, being among the creationists who start these lies, or even being the ones who just repeat the lies without bothering to check them first. Not if they believe in a God who values truth.

      August 1, 2012 at 12:24 am |
  3. HeavenSent

    From the book of Jesus, the bible, his truth, there was only about 8 human beens on that there boat when the big flood came along. Must have been like my family when the water went down, lots of inbreeding. You know my dad, brother and husband are all the same guy and my mom, sister and cousin are, sh*it, it is all so confusing. My Pastor, who is also my brother and nephew, tried to explain that our genetic pool is pretty shallow, and is covered with sc*um, whatever that means.

    July 31, 2012 at 11:56 am |
  4. llɐq ʎʞɔnq

    Blue becomes you, but the inverted text was kind of fun.

    July 31, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • realbuckyball

      Fake bucky .. thanks for advertising. You are too stupid to come up with your own name.
      The real, (old), llɐq ʎʞɔnq, is now, always and only, realbuckyball, IN BLUE, signed into the WordPress account.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • dave

      You know, Bucky reminds me of a Bible verse:

      31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”

      32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Too bad you're so stupid you don't know what a Bucky Ball even is. "dave" reminds me of a pile of sh1t.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • dave

      Bucky you need to grow up. Develop a personality, make friends.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Yeah well, Bucky never said he was an old fart, like you.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      So dave, you have random associations ? Have you seen a psychiatrist ?

      July 31, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
  5. K-switch

    So it must have Dutch rudder.

    July 31, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  6. derp

    II'd like to see this delusional nitwit actually try to cram two of every living species onto his little boat.

    What a dumb a s s.

    July 31, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • HeavenSent

      God can make anything happen foolish mind rotten from your Atheism.

      Amen.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:49 am |
    • Cq

      HeavenSent
      Not "anything", if you consider what amputees would be wishing for, right?

      July 31, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
  7. llɐq ʎʞɔnq

    Interesting that AtheistSteve balks at the concept of nothing – that is, at least true vacuum and without time or space.

    July 31, 2012 at 10:38 am |
    • dave

      Hmm... Not much to say about it anyway, is there?

      July 31, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Fake Bucky. Ain't gonna work. They know the difference. Your "true vacuum" does not exist. If you knew anything about Physics, you would know that.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      And BTW fake Bucky, if there is no time, then your god(s) cannot act. An action, (creation), requires time, as does "existence". If existence requires time, you god cannot be it's creator.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:02 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Oh wait. You cannot be a believer. A believe would know hiding behind someone else's name is immoral, and shows you are too weak brained to make your own arguments. Sad your god made you so stupid.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Of course it doesn't exist little ʎʞɔnq. The misunderstanding is not your fault. Only the likes of Hawking and Penrose seem to get that physics is wanting for better philosophical underpinnings. BTW, why bring gods into it, or unicorns, for that matter?

      July 31, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • K-switch

      Maybe, at some point in the future time travel is possible, and bucky suffers a traumatic brain injury rendering him mentally incompotent and travels back to 2012 to post on the internet.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Well fake Bucky, we did all just happen to notice that you failed to cook up the "better philosophical underpinnings".

      July 31, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      "We all" brings you into a whole new realm of fallacy, little ʎʞɔnq. I am surprised.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • realbuckyball

      Deflection. You did not answer the question, Fake Bucky. What are the better underpinnings ?
      From now on, the real llɐq ʎʞɔnq, will sign in to his password protected Word Press account. There will be no more postings, ever, from llɐq ʎʞɔnq. This is the first. The real old llɐq ʎʞɔnq, will now be IN BLUE, the password protected "realbuckyball".
      Thanks for making me do this. I often get requests for my help and assistance, and need to protect my good name.
      Please everyone, pass on the info. The old llɐq ʎʞɔnq, is now, (and only) , realbuckyball, and the post from the real one will only appear in blue, (WordPress account).

      July 31, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      At any rate, I should say that the semantics of "there exists" is problematic to metaphysical naturalism. Of course "nothing" does not exist. End of story. There are dragons beyond here. Physicists should not proceed.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Well, I guess I hurt your feelings. Don't be so fragile. You did come here to address ideas, didn't you?

      July 31, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • realbuckyball

      I doubt it. Your approach is juvenile. There is no such thing as "metaphysics". It's woo-woo, "all the way down". "Metaphysical naturalism" is an oxymoron.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      No blue? Anyway, "ontological naturalism" if you prefer.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Woops, forgot to sign in.
      Why is it you have to skate on my reputation ?
      Your "ontological naturalism" is just rehash of Greek Idealism. What ? You can't even defend your "metaphysics" ?

      July 31, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
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    July 31, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • Inspector Clouseau

      You really should lay off those drugs.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:26 am |
    • HeavenSnot

      Thanks again! Keep it coming. I'm finished with the doll house, now I'm just printing this stuff out to the the trim in the kids room!

      July 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Which God??

      Who...is a fu-cknut.

      July 31, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  9. lunchbreaker

    That's odd, nothing in the article about the aquarium to hold all of the freshwater organisms.

    July 31, 2012 at 9:40 am |
  10. llɐq ʎʞɔnq

    Nice boat. But has everyone read Lawrence Krauss's A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing? (Afterward by Richard Dawkins).

    July 31, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      Great book. Everyone should read it.

      July 31, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Well, that makes me feel important. Someone actually is threatened enough by me to use my handle.
      Of course we have read that. Great book. The trouble with them, (Dawkins and Krauss), is that neither one is a scripture scholar, nor a historian. If only Krauss were a better debator, and Dawkins, while an expert in his field, also could use some help in his debates.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      The folly of copying someone's handle is that it is painfully obvious when it is done.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Il_q_one.

      So Dawkins and Krauss need to be Biblical scholars to be able to properly address existence? Just like the courtiers who had read Bellini's masterwork, On the Luminescence of the Emperor's Feathered Hat. All those people who thought the emperor was naked were idiots for not having read Bellini.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:26 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      No. All I was saying was that if one wants to debate religionists, it would help if they knew about their sh1t. The debate is not about "existence", it is about the foundational fallacies of their (supposed) foundations. They both do engage in debates. And the debates are not about "existence".

      July 31, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • PrimeNumber

      It would have sounded like an interesting book had you not mentioned Dawkins. No doubt Doctor Dawkins is a significant biologist. But when dealing with philosophical/theological matters, he becomes MISTER Dawkins and is much like a toddler sitting on the floor trying to figure out his toys.

      Man cannot comtemplate "nothing" anymore than he can contemplate "god". There is no observable, verifyable evidence that there was ever "nothing".

      July 31, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Dr. Dawkins wrote the forward, or afterword, or whatever, The book was written by Krauss alone. He makes precisely your point. "Nothingness" is a holdover from "metaphysics", which is basically "woo-woo". The book raises a number of interesting points. For example, gravity can have a negative value. The total energy of the universe can be 0, (zero). Just because more matter than anti-matter is detectable during this phase of the universe, does not mean there is more "something", than not.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:49 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      He also tries to make the point that the usual claptrap "nothing can come from nothing", (the Aristotelian/Thomistic First Cause argument), is based on the premise that the universe is intuitive to human brains. There as now abundant proof that is not true, (Heisenberg, Dirac, Einstein).

      July 31, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      So PN, is it more reasonable that a magic sky daddy spoke a word and "poof" everything became? Now that is garbage.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:04 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Krauss also produced a video lecture available on YouTube with the same title. llɐq ʎʞɔnq is correct when people talk about "nothing" they really have no idea what they are referring to. Nothing in the purest sense doesn't exist. Empty space is "something" with dimension, structure, energy and it is inextricably tied to time.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:05 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      If the net energy of the universe is zero(the universe is geometrically flat), and matter and energy are interchangeable, then the net matter in the universe is also zero. So in effect there is nothing here. I like the analogy of where if you wish to create a mound of dirt on a flat plain then you must dig a hole to get the dirt. Thus all matter in the universe is countered or offset by the dark energy inherent to empty space. What we observe and experience as solid matter is merely a tiny fluctuation in the balance of forces.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • lunchbreaker

      The sad part of the book is that in 2 trillion years, there will no longer be evidence of the Big Bang.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Colin

      I saw Krauss present, essentially, this book, in a presentation at the American Atheists convention in DC. He is also a great presenter.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • mitch

      Want to catch a very fine debate, the Munk Debate, Resolved that religion is a force for good in the world. Hitchens vs Blair, just google to find it. Hitchens was one of the finest debaters for the atheist point of view and was a consisitent winner of those debates, so sad he is gone. The christian crowd never looks beyond their viewpoint of their one and only god and seem to be blind to the other religions in the world. That is why they will never make any sense to those that question them, they are stuck in their own narrow book the bible, so many other versions of god that they must deny to make theirs work, tunnel vision in the extreme.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • Cq

      Lawyers, politicians and con men are amongst the groups noted for being accomplished debaters so, when it comes to getting the truth about something, you'd think that people wouldn't put so much weight on how well someone can string words together, wouldn't you?

      July 31, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • mitch

      @CQ
      It is the purpose of the debater to convince those listening to his/her point of view, the winner is the one that has done exactly that or what would be the point of the debate? Lawyers have to convince the jury or judge, politicians have to convince the voter, and con men such as priests/evangilists, snake oil salesmen, used car dealers, etc. have to convince people to part with their hard earned money for little or no value.

      July 31, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  11. Damocles

    Ok so we got the boat, now fill it with replicas of 2 of every animal and see if it works.

    July 31, 2012 at 8:51 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Why replicas? Let's go for the real deal, see how long it takes before 21st century Noah drowns in s.hit.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • Cq

      Rational Libertarian
      Drowning real animals just to make a point to people would be cruel, wouldn't it?

      July 31, 2012 at 11:37 am |
    • Damocles

      I say replicas because I believe a few species of animals have gone the way of the dodo between then and now.

      July 31, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
  12. Moby Schtick

    Cool art piece. And by the way, Jesus thought that the flood was world wide, ergo, he had not the knowledge of god; ergo, he was not any god in human form; ergo, the christian faith is bunk.

    July 31, 2012 at 8:45 am |
    • DyingLoyalist

      Nicely put, Moby. I'll have to remember that tack. And yes, it is a lovely boat. Seems a bit small for two of every animal on earth, though.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  13. Cleavland Steamer

    I wonder how many starving children this fool could have kept alive with the funds used to construct this floating symbol of idiocy.

    July 31, 2012 at 8:39 am |
    • PrimeNumber

      How many starving children? Don't ask the secular humanists. They're spending lots of money granting scholarships and litigating to have prayers removed from puplic walls – in full view of starving people. But never mind. Such groups as Catholic Charities and Feed the Children are taking care of the poor.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • derp

      "Such groups as Catholic Charities"

      Which receives 65% of it's funding from my high wage earning federal tax dollars.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • Cq

      PrimeNumber
      There is Oxfam, UNICEF, Plan International, and a bunch other secular alternatives to charities hosted by religious groups that seem to be primarily interested in trying to plant the seeds of conversion in these kids. In some cases they're more like MacDonalds, putting toys in their Happy Meals just to establish lifelong loyalty. Any actual charity that occurs from the efforts of some of these groups seem more like a side-effect than the purpose.

      July 31, 2012 at 11:48 am |
  14. Reality

    Fast forward to the 21st century:

    origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

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    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    "These essays, perused during uninspired sermons or Torah readings at Sabbath services, will no doubt surprise many congregants. For instance, an essay on Ancient Near Eastern Mythology," by Robert Wexler, president of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles, states that on the basis of modern scholarship, it seems unlikely that the story of Genesis originated in Palestine. More likely, Mr. Wexler says, it arose in Mesopotamia, the influence of which is most apparent in the story of the Flood, which probably grew out of the periodic overflowing of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The story of Noah, Mr. Wexler adds, was probably borrowed from the Mesopotamian epic Gilgamesh. "

    July 31, 2012 at 8:27 am |
  15. TruthPrevails :-)

    A comparison between the Titanic and the Ark can be found at http://zerobs.net/noahs-ark-vs-ti</btanic.

    July 31, 2012 at 8:24 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      this: http://zerobs.net/noahs-ark-vs-ti</btanic should read http://zerobs.net/noahs-ark-vs-titanic

      July 31, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  16. Doc Vestibule

    The problem with these replica arks is that without the heart of the TARDIS, they're not bigger on the inside therefore and can't contain all the disparate ecologies needed to sustain two of every animal.
    They say Noah died at age 950, so I think it's pretty obvious that he was a Time Lord from Gallifrey.
    The Bible makes perfect, literal sense if you only know how to interpret it correctly.

    July 31, 2012 at 8:10 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      Noah was a Time Lord? Intriguing. Jesus could be The Doctor and Mohammed could be The Master.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:18 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Moses' staff?
      Sonic screwdriver.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • Rational Libertarian

      I thinl you're on to something that will blow the theological world apart.

      July 31, 2012 at 9:31 am |
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    July 31, 2012 at 6:27 am |
  18. Frisco

    of each, culture of the period, literary style ect. Holy Scriputure is only one of the 3 supports to the faith.

    July 31, 2012 at 3:40 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Faith is a virtue, (capriciously) granted by your holy spirit, according to YOUR theology. If it's not granted, the leap, (of faith), cannot be made. There is not ultimately, by your own definition, any support for the leap. One decides that one will abandon reason, and make the leap. It is, by your theological definition, an irrational act, and ONLY possible if one is capriciously granted the virtue.

      July 31, 2012 at 6:02 am |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      When you realize the "holy scripture" is nothing but a book written by a bunch of men over many years then edited by more men to fit their agendas, you will understand it can no longer be considered a "support to the faith".

      July 31, 2012 at 7:52 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      Scripture, (be definition), "that which is written" was written by humans. Scholars who in general when, and why each text was written, and in many texts, even each line, and where it came from. The writers were believers. Using the bible to support one's beliefs is the ultimate circular argument. It's like saying "I believe in the bible because the bible tells me to believe in the bible". Well "duh". Of course it says to believe in itself. Did anyone think it was going to say anything else ?

      July 31, 2012 at 8:48 am |
    • Frank

      "Mythology is what grown-ups believe, folk-lore is what they tell their children, and religion is both." Cedric Whitman

      July 31, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  19. Frisco

    Colin, don't forget the Pope already weighed in on your observtions. When John Paul II was asked what he thought about evolution, his answer was that it could very well be the way it happened and probably was what God used for creation. Sacred truth and natural truth cannot contradict each other as God created both. Then again, Catholics only believe the Gospels are literal witness accounts. the rest of books of the bible (BTW compiled by the Catholic church) are to be read contextually for the historical

    July 31, 2012 at 3:37 am |
    • llɐq ʎʞɔnq

      The gospels are not literal witness accounts. They are (self admitted) proclamational faith docu'ments, used ONLY in worship services, by already believing followers. The closest thing we have is "propaganda". There is no way any rational person can consider that an objective witness account. They are all very different, (as proven be the vastly different accounts of the resurrection event). They were written at least a generation later, and not one by an actual eye witness. No scholar disputes this. No one sat around reading gospels. the literacy rate was about 5%. Gospels were "proclaimed" in worship services. Even Paul admits they are the "good news". Not the news, not the good news and the bad news, Just the "good news". That's the definition of "biased reporting". Catholics can believe whatever they want. History, and biblical study, on the other hand, have objective methods.

      July 31, 2012 at 5:44 am |
  20. Bootyfunk

    everyone knows the rid.iculous fairy tale of noah's ark. god drowned everyone on earth but noah and his family - yep, every baby, pregnant woman, the elderly, the disabled, etc. but do you know what happened to noah and his family after the flood? allow me summarize:

    noah gets drunk one night and passes out in his tent with his junk hanging out. his son, ham, walks into the tent and sees his daddy's sack. ham runs out and tells shem and j.apheth, his brothers, that he saw daddy's p.ecker. shem and j.apheth walk backward into the tent so they don't see noah's twigs and berries and cover him up with a blanket. daddy wakes up and demands to know what the hell is going on.
    shem and j.apheth tell their father that ham saw his one-eyed willy while he was passed out drunk. noah says ham must be punished for checking out his trouser snake. ham and all of his descendants (africans) are to be slaves forever to his brothers and their descendants, shem (father of asians) and j.apheth (father of europeans). ham doesn't object and becomes his brothers' slave. noah goes on to live to the ripe old age of 950 years old. the end.

    isn't that a heart-warming and not in any way crazy story?

    July 31, 2012 at 2:57 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      To get around the filter use where the dots would be.

      July 31, 2012 at 8:26 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      (remove the space between the 2nd and 3rd arrows)

      July 31, 2012 at 8:27 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      lets try this again.... ... remove all spaces

      July 31, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Sorry to have wasted that but it should be arrow , arrow to get around the filter

      July 31, 2012 at 8:31 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      arrow pointing left, letter b, arrow pointing right, arrow pointing left, /, letter b, arrow pointing right

      July 31, 2012 at 8:32 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      //

      July 31, 2012 at 8:35 am |
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