July 31st, 2012
04:15 PM ET

Black pastors group launches anti-Obama campaign around gay marriage

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – A group of conservative black pastors are responding to President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage with what they say will be a national campaign aimed at rallying black Americans to rethink their overwhelming support of the President, though the group’s leader is offering few specifics about the effort.

The Rev. Williams Owens, who is president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors and the leader of the campaign, has highlighted opposition to same-sex marriage among African-Americans. He calls this campaign “an effort to save the family.”

“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”

At the press conference, Owens was joined by five other black regional pastors and said there were 3,742 African-American pastors on board for the anti-Obama campaign.

When asked at the press conference for specifics about the campaign – funding, planned events and goals – Owens said only that the group’s first fundraiser will be on August 16 in Memphis, Tennessee. But Owens insisted that “we are going to go nationwide with our agenda just like the president has gone to Hollywood.”

In May, Obama announced on ABC News that he thought “same sex couples should be able to get married." The president had previously said that he opposed gay marriage, but said in May that his views were personal and did not represent a policy change.

In a fiery Tuesday press conference at the press club, Owens said Obama was taking the black vote for granted and decried the idea of similarities between the gay rights movement and the civil rights movement, an assertion made by the NAACP following Obama’s same-sex marriage support.

Owens has long been an opponent of gay marriage and consults with the National Organization for Marriage as a liaison to the black churches.

At the press conference, Owens said that Obama’s support of same-sex marriage tantamount to supporting child molestation.

“If you watch the men who have been caught having sex with little boys, you will note that all of them will say that they were molested as a child…” Owens said. “For the president to condone this type of thing is irresponsible.”

Owens later walked about those comments back, saying he didn’t think the president was condoning molestation.

Earlier this year, memos obtained by The Human Rights Campaign in a Maine civil actions suit revealed that NOM aims at making gay marriage a wedge issued “between gays and blacks,” according to the released confidential plans.

“The strategic goal of this project is to drive a wedge between gays and blacks - two key Democratic constituencies," one NOM memo states. In light of the release, Brian Brown, president of NOM, said that he is proud of the group’s “strong record” on minority partnerships.

A Pew Research Center poll conducted in April found that 49% of African-Americans oppose legalized same-sex marriage, compared with 39% who support it. But that shows a softening on the position in recent years; In 2008, only 26% of blacks were in favor of same sex marriage, according to the same Pew poll.

At the same time, black voters overwhelmingly supported Obama in 2008, while more recent polling shows a nearly equal level of support for the president’s 2012 reelection.

In a Public Religion Research Institute poll released last week, 18% of black Americans surveyed said they see same-sex marriage a “critical issue,” putting it behind the economy, education, deficit, a growing wealth gap and immigration.

According to Robert P. Jones, the CEO of the polling company, there is no evidence that same-sex marriage is something African-Americans will bring to the ballot box in November.

“Among African-Americans, I think same-sex marriage will be a nonissue in the election,” Jones told CNN. “We just have no evidence what so ever in slippage of support for Obama, even after his announcement in support of same sex marriage.”

The reaction of black pastors to the president’s support for gay marriage has been as varied as their congregations, ranging from condemnation to congratulations.

"We may disagree with our president on this one issue," Rev. Wallace Charles Smith said from the pulpit of the Shiloh Baptist Church in Washington on the Sunday after Obama announced his support for legalized gay unions. "But we will keep him lifted up in prayer. ... pray for President Barack Obama."

At the Tuesday press conference, Owens questioned Obama’s commitment to black Americans, stating that the president is just “half-black, half-white” and has long “ignored the black press.”

He is “ignoring the people that put him in the White House,” Owens said.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Black issues • Obama • Pastors • Politics • Race • Same-sex marriage

soundoff (1,434 Responses)
  1. jimmer

    While were at it, lets put the blacks back on the plantations.

    Who needs civil rights.

    Do these stupid shines realize that the people they are aligning themselves with would reinstate slavery if they had the chance.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • Frederick Douglass

      you my friend are ignorant

      August 1, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    • jimmer

      In what way am I ignorant?

      White southern baptists are the most racist people in America. These clowns are aligning themselves with the very people who most strongly opposed their very own civil rights.

      If they held a popular vote to bring back segregation in the south, it would pass easily. Now these dumb a s s preachers are joining hands with the very people who were behind the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King.

      Careful who you get in bed with. They just might fvck you.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • sam stone

      How is he ignorant, Freddie?

      August 1, 2012 at 10:32 am |
  2. Steve

    Sodomy is unsanitary, disgusting, vile and unnatural. It's also a huge health problem for our country as the cost of treating AIDS is enormous. So many reasons to oppose the liberal sacrament of sodomy!

    August 1, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • visitor

      Gluttony costs much more. I think Fat People should be kept from marrying and reproducing.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:44 am |
    • Satan

      Ditto, obesity is more disgusting. Being a fat lazy fvck is a choice. Anti fat America!

      August 1, 2012 at 9:48 am |
    • jimmer

      The dumbfvck bible belt states lead the nation in obesity, unwed mothers, teen pregnancy, and divorce.

      Nice work hillbillys.

      I guess gay marriage is bigger problem than those things.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • Huebert

      What's wrong Steve, will the wife not let you in the back door? You need to either ask on your birthday or after you have just bought her jewelry. Tequila and Astroglide also smooth out the discussion.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:52 am |
    • jimmer

      One day she might let you put your dick in her mouth.

      She seems to like doing it for me.

      That will surely change you mind about sodomy.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:54 am |
    • WASP

      @steve: HIV is spread through infected humans having unprotected s/e/x. when the bodily fluids of an infected person mix with that of an uninfected person the uninfected runs a RISK, not a sure fire guarentee of becoming infected. truth told both straight and gay alike help spread this illness, mostly due to ignorance and the stigma of being known as an infected carrier. in the 80's a lot of people became infected and i mean a lot due to the medical profession not knowing how to test for this illness, thus anyone could become infected due to recieveing contaminated blood during a transfusion. medical professionals treating those infected have themselves become infected from a scratch or open cut that the patients infected blood got into. so no one group of people deserve to be singled out as "THE CAUSE" of HIV. however there is hope for those that do become ill with this disease, SCIENTISTS one imperticular discovered a marker in the human genome called D-32, aka delta 32 that is our resistance to disease. their trial runs have proved very promising in preventing the virus from entering cells thus denying the "T" virus a place to propergate. please educate yourself before making such ignorant and inflaming statements.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      You are correct jimmer! Well, add ignorance and lack of education.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:01 am |
  3. Elizabeth

    This slight mis-spelling of an dirty word should not be tolerated by your company.
    If you wish to send this back to the person who posted it please let him know the following.
    Educated individuals should be able to discuss an issue using any one of the thousands
    of words available in the English language to make aview known without resorting to base language.
    Additionally, try using spell checker on words like religion. It is not that hard to spell.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:38 am |
  4. steve

    I dont believe how many black brothers in the US don't get how many white people (families) dont have knowledge or reason why their are not more rural black families and suburban black families in our demographics. Honestly, their are enough whites that can live well and happy in a mixed community and can be loving neighbors with families of different ethnic and racial backgrounds. I dare say their are enough white people that dont understand why thier are not already more black brothers and sisters and families already in thier circles of life. I believe the black families have their pre conceived notions about wether they can fall onto a safe fabric of love in predominately white communities, to find they can have won the human hearts of the human whites for welcome and acceptance for the hearts of the human blacks. There is a community in this world where a white person can look at a neighbor kid with dark skin and say somethin like "thats our Jeffry, and they dont mean the plantations Jeffry, they mean the jeffry of their hearts. It really is time to put some life and living into our world with the principles of the prince of peace. Go black Pastors, find the hearts of the communities and send your seasoned veterans of racial success and your young ambassadors to the shores of the communities. We are gonna get it right of die trying. Their is no other way. I can tell you not one black mother or father or one white mother and father or one Asian mother or Father will ever say, dont save my precious child, you are not the right color. I have to say another step is called for in issuing willingness and effort in the long march against racial enmity. Its not get the seperate but equal thing that needs to get going, Its drop the fears and share the fears, tears and beers and begin the process of getting used to it. Oh yeah and dont forget the burgers, pork chops, the miracle of the human spirit and the future out there in the big old wide world of eternity and distance. And the lord God Jesus Christ.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • Which God??

      steve, W.T.F. are you babbling about? Talk about someone needing an education.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:15 am |
  5. Satan

    Why don't these black pastors focus on something that actually will impact the black community? I'm not sure how someone's se.xual orientation affects them directly at all.
    Hey black pastors how about you focus on black on black violence, or blacks low graduation rates and low education, or the drug epidemic, or the fact that black men abandon their children at a higher rate than other races....yeah ga.y marriage should be a big issue....what a fvcking joke...

    August 1, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • visitor

      Gays are Easy Targets.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:46 am |
  6. JoeHoliday

    We cannot take these pastors seriously till they address the major problems in the black community. The lemming-like voting of blacks in this country suggests they only vote for the party that will give hand outs and not the one to tackle the problems of unwed mothers producing new generations of fatherless thugs and women making babies, crime , drugs, gangs and rap music. Any group voting 95% for any candidate or policy shows complete lack of the sophistication needed to vote in the first place. These men of God need to tell their flocks that the devil is loose on us now and they are helping him destroy their country too, but this will never happen when blacks can only see to vote for a black person no matter how flawed he is.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      You might have to define lemmings to themselves Joe.

      I see lemmings everywhere. They don't even know they are lemmings.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • Which God??

      Joe, they won't, and the truth hurts, they won't acknowledge their own faults. They prefer to blame the 'man' for keeping them down.. Generations have now learned to play the system for handouts, called enti.tlements. They now believe they are to get these 'enti.tlements,' and the government and taxpayers allow it. It should come to a screeching halt. Get out and work. Finish school. Learn a trade. Do something to support yourself, not live on the dole.This goes for ALL people on the dole.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:53 am |
  7. RJ

    Please! Check out the back of the church before service! Hyprocritical-Can you say Glass House! Young African American males have been victimized by some of your churches for years and you have yet to address that issue. Please stay focus on what is going on in your own house! Sweep around your own front/back door-you hate the sin but love the person! User Friendly on Sunday and do whatever all throug the week. Praying for you!

    August 1, 2012 at 9:32 am |
  8. stanbiyerman

    Something around 70% of blacks are raised in single-parent households. Not only is there often no strong father-figure, there is frequently no father-figure at all. This may make black children especially vulnerable to predation by gays and many will be harmed by this insane push by the radical left to pretend that gays are simply a different form of "normal."

    Obama is assaulting the family, religion and anyone who holds traditional values. Gay marriage is a truly radical notion and we simply must push back against the president, the media, Hollywood and anyone else promoting this insanity. If we don't push back, we become enablers of a major attempt to harm children.

    See you at Chick-fil-A.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:29 am |
    • Which God??

      @stanb.. so who is to blame for the blacks acting in such a manner? I have yet to see some prominent blacks speak out against the thug culture of the blacks, the thug rap music glorifying the put down of women. Get real. Gays aren't necessarirly the predators. Where do you get your information from? What statistics can you post to back up what you say?

      August 1, 2012 at 9:36 am |
    • jimmer

      "Something around 70% of blacks are raised in single-parent households. Not only is there often no strong father-figure, there is frequently no father-figure at all. This may make black children especially vulnerable to predation by gays"

      Yeah, all of these illegitimate black babys are turning gay in droves in the states and countries all over the globe that sanction and recognize gay marriage.

      Fvcking dunce.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    • tallulah13

      Wow, stan. What a load of garbage. It would be laughable, except that people like you use that sort of lie to rationalize your bigotry.

      August 1, 2012 at 11:00 am |
  9. visitor

    I think the family is the backbone of society also. I wonder if these spineless Pastors are speaking up to all the men who fathered children out of wedlock. Personally. Considering that the African American community is the most non-traditional-family oriented in the country, I am amazed this is what these Pastors focus on.

    I remember a Priest telling my Mom to pray for forgiveness for divorcing my abusive Dad. I remember Pope John speaking out about the Iraq War but do not remember American Priests standing up strongly against the war. They still whine about abortion abortion abortion and now, birth control.

    Preachers of all colors and faiths always go after Females and Gays because they are afraid of Straight Men.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:27 am |
  10. Kenny

    God bless these pastors and their supporters.
    Time to get off that big government plantation, folks. Liberal Democrats not only take the black vote for granted, they apparently believe we can't exist or think for ourselves without the "Government Massa" telling us what to do and giving us a hand out.
    How arrogant and disrespectful....

    August 1, 2012 at 9:26 am |
    • visitor

      Yeah, get off the Democratic "Plantation" and run to the White Republican Man plantation, where you can hand over your sons to get killed in Iran.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:36 am |
  11. Satan

    I love all the hate from these "Christians" its fantastic.

    This folks, is why all religeons should be taxed. The stick their nose in politics. Don't want to be taxed? Then keep your fvcking mouths shut.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:20 am |
    • Which God??

      Correct, Satan. These xtians really show their biases and bigotry when it comes to shoving their views on everyone who don't think like they do.They completely violate most of the so-called tennants of thier cult, such as love thy neighbor, do no harm, help one another. Everyone of them is mealy-mouth weasel, speaking out of both sides of their mouths: one saying out one side, love the person, the other side saying hate the sin, etc, and other such BullSh!t. Hypocrites, all of them, especially the apologists. They are even more mealy-mouthed.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:30 am |

    LOVE this....thanks for speaking up Pastor. this is what its going to take men of GOD like you to wake your people up from the coma that they were in last election. Reminds me of the scripture in the bible when Moses was instructed by God .... "Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh and say to him, 'This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: "Let my people go"... .I have faith that your discernment of God's will. will help you to enlighten your people from the darkness that blinds them from the wickedness of an evil soul as obummer.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:17 am |
    • TR6

      And Moses said unto them “Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known a man by lying with him, but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” Num 31:1-2, 9-11, 14-18

      August 1, 2012 at 11:01 am |
  13. Saved by Grace

    To all who believe in the Bible and have stood up for the one true God, we know the truth. These other people are lost and to argue with them makes us fools as well. I pray that they will see the truth and except before it is too late.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:10 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Not lost at all. There is no verifiable evidence to support the stories in the buybull or your imaginary friend god. We are not the gullible ones here. We accept the facts as presented by science...facts that can be backed by peer reviewed studies. We do not have a set of doctrines to tell us to deny equal rights to people and for anyone to use their unfounded belief to do so, makes them hypocritical bigots.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • visitor

      Save your prayers for yourself.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:37 am |
    • kindless

      This is my experience. Thank you.

      If you pray for a really long time, your stool will change color and you'll miss the bus!

      August 1, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • Which God??

      Wow, saved. You start with the prmise that a poorly written 'book' is true and go from there? Did you do any research, or did you let someone tell you that this is true,etc, etc? You are are one of so many of the gullible sheep that these pastors thrive on for their living. You seriously haven't read that buybull, have you? Cherry picker, I bet.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • sam stone

      Looks like you are already the fool, Saved...

      Now, get back on your knees like a compliant little slave

      August 1, 2012 at 10:35 am |
  14. LWJR

    Compare Carlton Pierson's statements with the 'WORD OF GOD'. Run from this dude folks, run.
    Romans 1:24-28 KJV Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    August 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Surely, gayness is an indicator of disbelief, but also: Glutony, lie, murder, hate, anger, greed for honor, power and riches, envy, etc..

      We should offer the gospel to the gays, but not condemn them. As long as a gay lives here on earth, he can repents. When we treat the gays kindly, we make it easier for them to repent, and anyway Jesus has commanded love.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:14 am |
    • WASP

      @rain: seriously? i pity you for such unintelligent comments.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:30 am |
    • heavenSnot

      The words of Paul – the most dangerous politician of the NT. A self-proclaimed apostle. One of the primary reasons that the bible collectively does more harm than good, not only today, but ever since the very beginnings of Catholicism. We have no more reason to follow his words than we have to follow say Joseph Smith.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:31 am |
    • Which God??

      @LWJR. I ask, to which god to you refer? Which church is better? They all say they are. Hypocritcal as.sholes.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • sam stone

      Well, well, well....looks like the Rainy, the German closet queen has spoken.

      Rainy...F you and F your god.

      Clear enough?

      August 1, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  15. Rainer Braendlein

    The Fathers of the Free World wanted freedom, but they never had allowed gay marriage.

    The whole matter of too much freedom for gays has something to do with the history of the "Free World".

    Are we actually aware that there was not always a Free World? Up to 1742 a. D. Europe was under the rule of the pope (-rat). The pope was the highest ecclesiastical leader, and at the same time temporal leader on earth. The pope had more power than the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation, today simply called Germany. First by the powerful impact of Frederic the Great, the Protestant King of Pruzzia, the pope lost his temporal power, and the mordern Europe began to emerge.

    The philosophical counterpart of that political freeing was the Enlightenment, which was also highly promoted by Frederic the Great. Englightenment is or was not anti-Christian, but anti-Catholic, and anti-bigoted. Enlightenment is faith without bigotry, a faith which is extremly connected with virtue against all people independent from belief, colour, nationality, status, etc..

    At the time of Enlightenment the word "Freedom" meant chiefly freedom from the rule of the Roman Catholic Church, both political and spiritual or ecclesiastical. For the enlightened Portestants Catholicism meant backwardness (Islam was not yet an issue, because no Muslims lifed in Europe, but, of course, Islam also means backwardness).

    Our current problem is that we still appreciate freedom, but have lost the strong Protestant background. Freedom makes sense only in connection with a pious backround.

    Of course, Frederic the Great or Voltaire or Newton or Joseph II never had promoted or even allowed gay marriage – impossible. Their notion of freedom did not mean gay marriage.

    Freedom is good, and it is good when in a state nobody is persecuted or hindered because of his belief. It is only that freedom can only be kept by rulers which are adherents of a very kind and moderate Protestantism without any bigotry. Such rulers don't appreciate any creed, but only the true visible virtue and merit. Yet, the true faith is the faith which brings about virtue and merit. Hence, if a state rewards virtue and merit, it promotes automatically the true Church.

    Let is be honest, gayness and gay marriage belong to people which usually have left all the ways of virtue, not only concerning se-xuality, but concerning all matters of morality. This should not be rewarded by the state, but be outlawed.

    Obama indeed needs some lessons about the history of the Free World and Enlightenment.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • WASP

      @rain: you are a troll: sad to see such a well spoken christian blogger stoop to becoming a troll in light of losing so many debates to the atheists. want proof you're a troll you posted the samething hours ago and i replied where in you saw fit to ignore and post this uneducated gabage again.
      "@rain: allow me to enlighten you. a few history lessons;
      1)"The Battle of Tours followed 21 years of Umayyad conquests in Europe which had begun with the invasion of the Visigothic Christian Kingdoms of the Iberian peninsula in 711. These were followed by military expeditions into the Frankish territories of Gaul, former provinces of the Roman Empire." notice the date? it's in the year 711 CE
      2)"Their notion of freedom did not mean gay marriage." these gentlemens notions of anything are strictly a result of their enviroment and the thoughts and problems of their time period. seeing as minorities/women/ almost anyone not of wealthy background had alomost no "freedom" to begin with this comment means absolutely nothing.
      3) "Let is be honest, gayness and gay marriage belong to people which usually have left all the ways of virtue, not only concerning se-xuality, but concerning all matters of morality. This should not be rewarded by the state, but be outlawed." thankfully you have no control of our lovely secular government otherwise you would hand us lot stock and barrel over to whatever religious leader promised you eternal happiness if you followed him. marriage is control by the government not by any religious organization and being "gay" is a natural order of life. males don't see a problem with their wife/ girlfriend having a-n-a-l s-e-x to pleasure them; but view it as sinful and unnatural when two people of the same gender.......and yes even lesbians enjoy it; commit the same actions, that makes you a hypocrite.

      August 1, 2012 at 7:31 am

      August 1, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • Which God??

      Rabid Rainey is at it again with his nonsensical views on virtue. He wouldn't know the difference . Anyone who doesn't believe what he espouses is not virtuous, but a sinner. I think some of these folks who protest too much have something to hide, and I think it is their lack of virtue. Rainey is probably as big a sinner as anyone, but thinks he'll be saved because he believes in a god-fairy who will give him everlasting life. Yeah, sure.

      August 1, 2012 at 10:04 am |
  16. Greta

    PRAISE GOD for these pastors. I have been so disheartened that so many of my Christian brothers and sisters seemed to have put Obama before standing for God's word. I am THANKFUL that there ARE the faithful who are standing up. I see the gay movement emboldened like never before. It is in our face, it is pushy, is is demonic. I WISH black people could understand..... WE DON"T CARE ABOUT OBAMA"S SKIN COLOR!!!!!!!! Please....bring me a black president like Herman Cain! Or any African American who stands up for traditional values and I will shout from the mountain tops that I love this president! But, Obama is a disaster!!!!! I PRAY black people of God WILL get out and vote for Mitt Romney. He WILL restore our Godly heritage in this country.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • visitor

      The Iraq War which was based on lies wasn't demonic?

      August 1, 2012 at 9:38 am |
    • Which God??

      Greta, WHICH god do you speak of?

      August 1, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • Boytjie

      Like Herman Cain, the adulterer... seriosouly?

      August 1, 2012 at 10:25 am |
  17. Tom

    It is refreshing to see that blacks are finally standing up to express their frustration with the Obama team treating them as a group of robots will to put up with everything he spews.

    Obama is the true racist when he expects them to vote for him just because he is black. He has shown time and time again that he will play the race card when he thinks it suits him. Ditto for the class warfare card.

    If Romney told whites to vote for him because he is white, the MSM would lose their minds.

    August 1, 2012 at 9:04 am |
    • visitor

      If Romney told people to vote for him because he is more Godley...

      August 1, 2012 at 9:39 am |
  18. Rainer Braendlein

    I think, greater than the problem of gay marriage is the problem that gays more and more get admitted to churches, even become pastors or bishops.

    The Church is a holy place. She should consist only of people which got released or delivered by Jesus Christ.

    The true gospel allows no separation of forgiveness and deliverance. If gays are admitted to the church, a false gospel gets proclaimed: Forgiveness of all sins without deliverance from sins.

    Once Jesus saved a woman who was about to get stoned by the Sribes and Pharisees. Indeed, Jesus said that that one who is without sin should throw the first stone. One after another left the place, being ashamed. Yet, when the fanatics had disappeared, Jesus told the woman who had committed adultery she should finish sinning.

    God only forgives us on the condition that we also accept His deliverance. If we keep on sinning, we can be sure that we have not received forgiveness.

    We as Christians can endure, and we are willing to endure gays as long as they don't call them Christians, or don't want to attend church services, or even want to become pastors and bishops which is perverse.

    Dear gays, the Church is God's Holy Temple where he really dwells through the Holy Spirit. If a sinner who has not received forgiveness and deliverance approaches this holy fire, he will surely die.

    Of course, if churches accept gay marriage or gay church members, the Holy Spirit forsakes such churches, and they become places of disgust. If a gay goes there, he will not die, but he also will not find God there.

    August 1, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why, Rainer, do you want to ram your unit up a female's orifice. Not God's Holy Temple?

      August 1, 2012 at 9:06 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not my post. Troll, knock it off.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:08 am |
    • Scott

      “Jesus told the woman who had committed adultery she should finish sinning.”
      “If we keep on sinning, we can be sure that we have not received forgiveness.”

      Idiot! Jesus did not tell the woman “but if you keep on sinning I’ll take away my forgiveness”

      August 1, 2012 at 11:36 am |
  19. toogoo

    Bless you, Pastor Owens. The traditional family is the backbone of this country – not the government, not the schools, not the community. I sure wish my Pope and my Cardinals and my parish priest would have the courage to speak out against "gay marriage" like Pastor Owens and the other black pastors in this wonderful Coalition. Oh, but wait a minute – it's we WHITE Americans who began this this push for gay marriage – shame on us!!!!

    August 1, 2012 at 8:56 am |
  20. true justice

    When will the king and queen of yellow journalism, TMZ & CNN, Admit the truth that they will destroy another Hero, to protect their g-a-y support Agenda (did not their poster boy Anderson just proudly proclaim he is a Rump Ranger)? .  They want to divert attention from Rump Ranger Sandusky because they worship the culture that lusts for little Boys, sick Pervs. 

    August 1, 2012 at 8:56 am |
    • midwest rail

      Trolling should never be this boring – or stupid.

      August 1, 2012 at 8:57 am |
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The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.