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July 31st, 2012
04:15 PM ET

Black pastors group launches anti-Obama campaign around gay marriage

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – A group of conservative black pastors are responding to President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage with what they say will be a national campaign aimed at rallying black Americans to rethink their overwhelming support of the President, though the group’s leader is offering few specifics about the effort.

The Rev. Williams Owens, who is president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors and the leader of the campaign, has highlighted opposition to same-sex marriage among African-Americans. He calls this campaign “an effort to save the family.”

“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”

At the press conference, Owens was joined by five other black regional pastors and said there were 3,742 African-American pastors on board for the anti-Obama campaign.

When asked at the press conference for specifics about the campaign – funding, planned events and goals – Owens said only that the group’s first fundraiser will be on August 16 in Memphis, Tennessee. But Owens insisted that “we are going to go nationwide with our agenda just like the president has gone to Hollywood.”

In May, Obama announced on ABC News that he thought “same sex couples should be able to get married." The president had previously said that he opposed gay marriage, but said in May that his views were personal and did not represent a policy change.

In a fiery Tuesday press conference at the press club, Owens said Obama was taking the black vote for granted and decried the idea of similarities between the gay rights movement and the civil rights movement, an assertion made by the NAACP following Obama’s same-sex marriage support.

Owens has long been an opponent of gay marriage and consults with the National Organization for Marriage as a liaison to the black churches.

At the press conference, Owens said that Obama’s support of same-sex marriage tantamount to supporting child molestation.

“If you watch the men who have been caught having sex with little boys, you will note that all of them will say that they were molested as a child…” Owens said. “For the president to condone this type of thing is irresponsible.”

Owens later walked about those comments back, saying he didn’t think the president was condoning molestation.

Earlier this year, memos obtained by The Human Rights Campaign in a Maine civil actions suit revealed that NOM aims at making gay marriage a wedge issued “between gays and blacks,” according to the released confidential plans.

“The strategic goal of this project is to drive a wedge between gays and blacks - two key Democratic constituencies," one NOM memo states. In light of the release, Brian Brown, president of NOM, said that he is proud of the group’s “strong record” on minority partnerships.

A Pew Research Center poll conducted in April found that 49% of African-Americans oppose legalized same-sex marriage, compared with 39% who support it. But that shows a softening on the position in recent years; In 2008, only 26% of blacks were in favor of same sex marriage, according to the same Pew poll.

At the same time, black voters overwhelmingly supported Obama in 2008, while more recent polling shows a nearly equal level of support for the president’s 2012 reelection.

In a Public Religion Research Institute poll released last week, 18% of black Americans surveyed said they see same-sex marriage a “critical issue,” putting it behind the economy, education, deficit, a growing wealth gap and immigration.

According to Robert P. Jones, the CEO of the polling company, there is no evidence that same-sex marriage is something African-Americans will bring to the ballot box in November.

“Among African-Americans, I think same-sex marriage will be a nonissue in the election,” Jones told CNN. “We just have no evidence what so ever in slippage of support for Obama, even after his announcement in support of same sex marriage.”

The reaction of black pastors to the president’s support for gay marriage has been as varied as their congregations, ranging from condemnation to congratulations.

"We may disagree with our president on this one issue," Rev. Wallace Charles Smith said from the pulpit of the Shiloh Baptist Church in Washington on the Sunday after Obama announced his support for legalized gay unions. "But we will keep him lifted up in prayer. ... pray for President Barack Obama."

At the Tuesday press conference, Owens questioned Obama’s commitment to black Americans, stating that the president is just “half-black, half-white” and has long “ignored the black press.”

He is “ignoring the people that put him in the White House,” Owens said.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Black issues • Obama • Pastors • Politics • Race • Same-sex marriage

soundoff (1,434 Responses)
  1. MdaVt

    So I guess this means that Democrat mayors all across the country will be trying to force black churches out of their cities, then ?

    August 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  2. dockywocky

    Obama doesn't give a hoot what these black pastors think. He's on a ego trip and cannot see the forest for the trees. All his closest friends are mincing and prancing around slapping him n the back and singing "Atta Boy, Barack."
    Later in November, when he comes down off this ego high, he's gonna be whining about how his own folks simply let him down at the most critical moment.

    August 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Maybe the rapture will happen before then.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    • Primewonk

      God that would be great. Imagine a world free of fundiots.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Ms. Lane

      Why is it that you feel he doesn't care about black people? Why??? Because He's not handing out a block of cheese...free milk...free houses....FREE....FREE....FREE???? I don't really know what black people want from him. He is not going to come sit in the hood. He had a single mother just like the most of us and he still did what he needed to to get where he is. STOP LOOKING for a hand out or hook up. We have opportunities to do better but the majority do NOTHING but complain about what the white don't do or give us. Now it's what Barack doesn't do for us. Read the story about Willie Lynch and get a life.

      August 1, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
  3. Mark

    Silly rhetoric??? LOL, Honesty is always a liberals worst enemy. Try being HONEST SAM, but then again, I'm speaking to a liberal who has no idea what honesty is. And at this time, I'm finishing my Chick Fil-A, the line was long and what a blessing to see that, and I plan on returning Friday when these citizens (who have the right to do what they want and we have that same right as long as we agree with them) plan on a "kiss-in"

    August 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Hey Mark! Why don't we talk about honesty for a bit, what do you say?

      Honestly, I think you're a f*ucking idiot!

      August 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • sam stone

      marky mark....you partisan f-nuts are so entertaining. keep on blathering.

      August 2, 2012 at 7:50 am |
  4. Perplexed

    God will not send the sin to Hell. He will send the sinner. If you live in sin, you will die in sin. I don't know how explicit the Scriptures have to be but some folks are just determined to continue living as they please regardless of the clear admonishments of the Bible. Why would one ignore something that God calls an 'abomination' and think that they will escape his wrath. He is a God of love but he is also a just God. To ignore the 'Just' and embrace the 'Love' is to deny who he is.

    August 1, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      I sincerely hope that you never wear poly-cotton blends and that you're not just cherry-picking those portions of the bible you find convenient.

      Stone any disobedient children or non-christians lately?

      August 1, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • David Lampo

      God didn't call anything an abomination. Some old white guy did, and more than a dozen things were labeled as such in the bible, but most are ignored and forgotten. The bible says adulterers should be put to death. Do you believe in that as well? Face it, you simply are justifying your prejudices and hatred by using the bible as a crutch.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • James

      "Why would one ignore something that God calls an 'abomination' and think that they will escape his wrath. "

      The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Sin is not real, it is made-up by man. Prove it or shut the f*uck-up,moron!

      August 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm |
    • jeru0455

      It doesn't matter how explicit the bible is because the bible is just a book written by a bunch of re.tarded goat herders that is believed by a bunch of even more re.tarded people today.

      August 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • sam stone

      perplexed: your empty proxy threats are laughable, and indicate that you do not worship your god out of love, but out of fear. that being said, get back on your knees, b1tch

      August 2, 2012 at 7:51 am |
    • sam stone

      perplexed: denying people their civil rights makes you a bigot. hiding behind a bible to do it makes you a pious bigot.

      August 2, 2012 at 7:56 am |
  5. Jewel

    Hi this is what is wrong with organized religion. People in these churches should get out. Ministers should be preaching, teaching, and living love. God made everything. He said it was good. Churches should be helping the poor and helping us become people. All of these ministers are hypocrites. Where aren't the ministers speaking out against racism, discrimatation, poverty, slavery, adultery, and our many other sins. The government should take away tax breaks for churches and people no longer give money to these churches. Real Christians should speak out. Pray for the President and all of these jealous racist people.

    August 1, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      " God made everything"

      Would you mind taking the time and prove your claim? Thank you.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  6. Shawn

    Let me start this off with a quote from a famous lesbian, Lynn Lavner:

    "There are 6 admonishments in the Bible concerning homosexual activity, and our enemies are always throwing them up to us – usually in a vicious way and very much out of context.

    What they don't want us to remember is that there are 362 admonishments in the Bible concerning heterosexual activity. I don't mean to imply by this that God doesn't love straight people, only that they seem to require a great deal more supervision."

    I am going to attempt to keep this short and simple, so here we go.

    Some claim that Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 clearly say that homosexual sex is an abomination. In fact, it merits death. Isn't it obvious that God hates homosexuality?

    Yes, depending on which translation you are using, Leviticus does say, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female, it's an abomination." However, a few points must be made about this statement:

    a) It appears in Leviticus, which was given to preserve the distinctive characteristics of the religion and culture of Israel. However, as stated in Galatians 3:22-55, Christians are no longer bound by these Jewish laws. Even if you, for some reason, argue that these "laws" are still important, then you surely follow all of them, right?

    It is interesting that people who use Leviticus against the gay community forget the part that talks about religious sacrifices, making women sleep in tents outside during their period, the dietary restrictions placed on them and how to cleanse a leper, all of which appear in Leviticus.

    The laws of Leviticus are completely obsolete for today's Christian; however, even if you do claim to live by the laws of Leviticus, it is not fair to pick and choose which laws you are going to live by, or condemn a people by, if you are not going to follow the others. You should not need any more convincing evidence than this; but if you do, be my guest.

    b) The word that was in the original work, "to'ebah," which was translated into Greek as "bdglygma" actually means "ritual impurity" rather than abomination (or enormous sin). These passages in Leviticus can be translated to not mean homosexual sex generally, but only limiting homosexual sex in Pagan temples.

    c) This passage does not denounce homosexual behavior as a whole, but just the specific act of anal sex. This was meant for the prevention of disease. It was ruled unclean because it was physically unclean; however, hygiene has made wonderful advances since that time.

    d) These passages in Leviticus can be interpreted in many ways. I have seen it interpreted by scholars and priests to mean: "don't have sex with another man in your wife's bed;" "don't have sex with another man in the temple;" and "don't have sex with another man and pretend he is a woman," just to name a few.

    I have never seen an interpretation in any Bible, or from any scholar, that specifically says to never have sex with a man.

    Some claim the Bible simply does not support gay marriage. Chapter two of Genesis defines marriage as a holy union between a man and a woman. And later, in Matthew 19:4-5, Jesus himself reiterates the traits of a traditional marriage. How can you argue that anything other than celibacy is honorable for gay and lesbian people?

    Yes, marriage is a holy union. However, in these passages, while Jesus reiterates (but does not require) the traditional marriage, he also provides an exception for eunuchs (castrated men – or otherwise impotent men, in today's terms), and allowed them to be married, saying that this law is given to those to whom it applies.

    Because these eunuchs were born sexless, God made an exception for them because it was natural. The same applies to the Gay community today. Science has proven homosexuality is completely natural, so it seems God would allow for homosexual marriages.

    In Matthew 19: 4-5, Jesus encourages a traditional path, but does not discourage alternatives, except in the case of divorce.

    Jesus did stress purity of marriage, but not in regard to the sexes of the people within it. It can be seen that the reason that churches are against homosexual marriage is not because it is explicitly said by God, but because of a lack of instruction to specifically allow it.

    In the time that the Bible was written it would have been impossible to foresee the future to be able to specifically allow or forbid homosexual marriage.

    Some claim, in Paul's letter to the Corinthians, he lists homosexuals amongst the many sinners who will not inherit the kingdom of God. Doesn't that make God's position on this vice very clear?

    If we look at the other types of people listed in this passage, we can understand what it is actually talking about. Law breakers, thieves, adulterers and drunks are specifically mentioned. The word "homosexual" was not found until the 1890s, so it would have been impossible for it to be in the original version.

    What actually appears in the original is Paul condemning those who are "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind." In this context, the original Greek word, "malakos," is translated into effeminate, or soft, which, more than likely, refers to someone who lacks discipline or moral control.

    In this passage, when Paul condemns "abusers of themselves with mankind," he is speaking of male prostitutes.

    Then there are the people who claim that, even though science has proven that people don't choose their sexual orientation, the fact remains that homosexuality is unnatural. Romans 1:26-27 tells us that humans have a sinful nature, and therefore commit sins against God. Certain people are predisposed to be alcoholics and pedophiles, but that doesn't make their actions any less immoral. God tells us to "tear out your eye" if it makes you stumble. Why can't you just accept homosexuality as the part of your nature you must deny?

    Because the Bible has gone through so many translations, and through the hands of many people (some being non-believers), it is not surprising that the meaning has become a little fuzzy in parts.

    Homosexuality is normal. The phrase "para physin" appears in the original text for this verse. This term is often translated to mean "unnatural;" however, more accurate translation would be unconventional.

    Proof for this can be found in 1 Corinthians 11:14 where Paul uses this phrase to refer to men with long hair (unconventional, not unnatural) and in Romans 11:24 where Paul uses this phrase to refer to the positive action God made to bring together the Jews and Gentiles.

    All in all, homosexuality is obviously not a sin, unless you take passages from the Bible and add your own words or you just try really hard to interpret it that way. Let's just remember Galatians 5:14, where Paul stated, "the whole Law is fulfilled in one Statement, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

    August 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Me

      Blah blah. None of that accounts for the real problem – the ones who jump up and down the most for "tolerance," are the least likely group to give it. Leave my chicken alone. They don't have to buy into your bedroom. It's a free country – they can SAY whatever they want to.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      Again, someone ends their wonderings with words from the self-proclaimed apostle Paul, the politician. We have no more reason to believe in anything he said than we do of the words of Joseph Smith.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  7. Ethel Bryant

    God bless these pastors for standing for their beliefs. I agree wholeheartedly. It gives me hope that things are going to be all right.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • Bigots Unite!

      Of course, if they were going to stay true to the bible, they'd be out stoning non-Christians. But one step at a time, I guess.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • YeahRight

      "God bless these pastors for standing for their beliefs. I agree wholeheartedly. It gives me hope that things are going to be all right"

      While the ignore all the experts around the world about the gay community. Duh! Heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American School Counselor Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of SocialWorkers, together representing more than 480,000 mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus is not something that needs to or can be “cured."

      August 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
    • Peter

      "God bless these pastors for standing for their beliefs. I agree wholeheartedly. It gives me hope that things are going to be all right."

      Supporting prejudice bigots is not right nor is it a good thing. This controversy is part of the core issue with bullying in our society. It brings violence based on ignorance and hatred into our communities. The people that support this are fools.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Me

      Of course they did – if the directors are gay.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Voice of Reason

      Be alright? How do you live inside of that brain?

      August 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      Well said Peter.

      August 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • sam stone

      Ethel: I wonder how many pastors were standing up 50 or 60 years ago arguing against african-americans having the same rights as white folk. do we, in retrospect, look back on them with a sympathetic eye, that they stood up for what they believed in, or do we see them as bigots appealing to their bigoted congregations?

      August 2, 2012 at 7:59 am |
  8. John

    Some argue that since homosexual behavior is 'unnatural' it is contrary to the order of creation. Behind this pronouncement are stereotypical definitions of masculinity and femininity that reflect rigid gender categories of patriarchal society. There is nothing unnatural about any shared love, even between two of the same gender, if that experience calls both partners to a fuller state of being. Contemporary research is uncovering new facts that are producing a rising conviction that homosexuality, far from being a sickness, sin, perversion or unnatural act, is a healthy, natural and affirming form of human sexuality for some people. Findings indicate that homosexuality is a given fact in the nature of a significant portion of people, and that it is unchangeable.

    Our prejudice rejects people or things outside our understanding. But the God of creation speaks and declares, "I have looked out on everything I have made and `behold it (is) very good'." . The word (Genesis 1:31) of God in Christ says that we are loved, valued, redeemed, and counted as precious no matter how we might be valued by a prejudiced world.

    There are few biblical references to homosexuality. The first, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, is often quoted to prove that the Bible condemns homosexuality. But the real sin of Sodom was the unwillingness of the city's men to observe the laws of hospitality. The intention was to insult the stranger by forcing him to take the female role in the sex act. The biblical narrative approves Lot's offer of his virgin daughters to satisfy the sexual demands of the mob. How many would say, "This is the word of the Lord"? When the Bible is quoted literally, it might be well for the one quoting to read the text in its entirety.

    Leviticus, in the Hebrew Scriptures, condemns homosexual behaviour, at least for males. Yet, "abomination", the word Leviticus uses to describe homosexuality, is the same word used to describe a menstruating woman. Paul is the most quoted source in the battle to condemn homosexuality ( 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 and Romans 1: 26-27). But homosexual activity was regarded by Paul as a punishment visited upon idolaters by God because of their unfaithfulness. Homosexuality was not the sin but the punishment.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Paul gave a list of those who would not inherit the Kingdom of God. That list included the immoral, idolaters, adulterers, sexual perverts, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, and robbers. Sexual perverts is a translation of two words; it is possible that the juxtaposition of malakos, the soft, effeminate word, with arsenokoitus, or male prostitute, was meant to refer to the passive and active males in a homosexual liaison.

    Thus, it appears that Paul would not approve of homosexual behavior. But was Paul's opinion about homosexuality accurate, or was it limited by the lack of scientific knowledge in his day and infected by prejudice born of ignorance? An examination of some of Paul's other assumptions and conclusions will help answer this question. Who today would share Paul's anti-Semitic attitude, his belief that the authority of the state was not to be challenged, or that all women ought to be veiled? In these attitudes Paul's thinking has been challenged and transcended even by the church! Is Paul's commentary on homosexuality more absolute than some of his other antiquated, culturally conditioned ideas?

    Three other references in the New Testament (in Timothy, Jude and 2 Peter) appear to be limited to condemnation of male sex slaves in the first instance, and to showing examples (Sodom and Gomorrah) of God's destruction of unbelievers and heretics (in Jude and 2 Peter respectively).

    That is all that Scripture has to say about homosexuality. Even if one is a biblical literalist, these references do not build an ironclad case for condemnation. If one is not a biblical literalist there is no case at all, nothing but prejudice born of ignorance, that attacks people whose only crime is to be born with an unchangeable sexual predisposition toward those of their own sex.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      OK, but who cares what Paul thought. He was a self-proclaimed apostle, but mostly a politician. Christards should examine more deeply how the Christardian thinking of Paul and those of the early Catholic church so often flies in the face of Jesus' most simple teachings about how people should treat one another.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  9. New Canaan CT Independant

    Bravo!

    Bravo!

    Americans of courage, character and consequence like these people speaking the principals and tenents by which they live their lives, regardless of color, are in very, very short supply in Obama;s America..........people are either dis-spirited or affraid.

    Two lhings to watch / listen to and read are as follows:

    For me actor Jeff Daniels summarizes the perilous state of present day America in the most honest 3 1/2 minutes ever put on film in a sobering and thought provoking clip found at:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw&feature=related

    Watch and listen to the Jeff Daniels clip two or three times………..and then come back to it a little later…………sobering is an understatement!

    Similarly, Mychal Massie, a syndicated Black conservative columnist summed up my feelings for and opinions of both Barack and Michelle Obama in “Nero in the White House.”

    Google it………….it’s worth the read.

    In closing:

    Stop at a local Chik-Fil-A in the next week or two for a great meal!

    Be sure to Vote in November for the candidate that represents the best option for the future of America as you know and envision it.

    Ask your God to bless the people who keep America and Americans safe and free every day……………and while you’re at it ask God to bless America as well.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • midwest rail

      So gay American veterans of military service are left out of your equation ?

      August 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • 2Cents

      "Stop at a local Chik-Fil-A in the next week or two for a great meal!

      Be sure to Vote in November for the candidate that represents the best option for the future of America as you know and envision it."

      The NAACP has passed a resolution endorsing same-sex marriage as a civil right, putting it stamp on an issue that has divided the black community.

      The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's board voted at a leadership retreat in Miami on Saturday to back a resolution supporting marriage equality, calling the position consistent with the equal protection provision of the US constitution.

      "The mission of the NAACP has always been to ensure political, social and economic equality of all people," board chairwoman Roslyn M Brock said in a statement. "We have and will oppose efforts to codify discrimination into law."

      Same-sex marriage is legal in six states and the District of Columbia, but 31 states have passed amendments to ban it.

      The NAACP vote came about two weeks after President Barack Obama announced his support for gay marriage, setting off a flurry of political activity in a number of states. Obama's announcement followed vice-president Joe Biden's declaration in a television interview that he was "absolutely comfortable" with gay couples marrying.

      "Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law. The NAACP's support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the fourteenth amendment of the United States constitution and equal protection of all people" said NAACP president Benjamin Todd Jealous, a strong backer of gay rights.

      Gay marriage has divided the black community, with many religious leaders opposing it. In California, exit polls showed about 70% of black people opposed same-sex marriage in 2008. In Maryland, black religious leaders helped derail a gay marriage bill last year. But state lawmakers passed a gay marriage bill this year.

      Pew Research Center polls have found that African Americans have become more supportive of same-sex marriage in recent years, but remain less supportive than other groups. A poll conducted in April showed 39% of African-Americans favor gay marriage, compared with 47% of white people. The poll showed 49% of black people and 43% of white people are opposed.

      The Human Rights Campaign, a leading gay rights advocacy group, applauded the NAACP's step.

      "We could not be more pleased with the NAACP's history-making vote – which is yet another example of the traction marriage equality continues to gain in every community," HRC president Joe Solmonese said in a statement.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  10. WASP

    obama hasn't been the best, but he is far from the worst.

    -he has attempted to have jobs bills passed: blocked by republicans
    -he has comprimised on bush era tax cuts: blocked by republicans
    -he has tried getting money to farms struck by the worst drought on record: blocked by republicans
    -he has attempted to get equal protection under the law for same gender couples: blocked and critized by republicans
    -he finally got females medical coverage for ho-rmone regulating medicines, aka birth control pill: republicans and religious zealots attacked him on that and attempted to have it blocked
    -he finally manage to bring our soldiers back from a pointless war started by a republican on the grounds of imaginary weapons of mass destruction: republicans caught in a lie on that one
    -he has aided in blocking ignorant pipeline from being built of our largest aquafer and running through our bed-basket: republicans shouted he was preventing job growth
    -he attempted to regulate an out of control wall street and banking industry that contributed to our current economic problems: republicans denied that deregulation was at fault seeing a republican deregulated both of those industires.
    -he has attempted to save money being wasted chasing down law abiding illegal immigrants and redirecting it toward actual border control: republicans attempted to block that as well.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
    • New Canaan CT Independant

      Pseudo-intellectual, libeal, Democrat talking points................in sum: PARTISAN SOPHISTRY!

      The Obama hasn't been the best but he hasn't been the worst is a classic initial benefit statemnet designed to get the audience / readr thinking one way before pulling the wool over his / her eyes with what follows.

      WASP = Paid Obama Apologist, Poster...................Liberal Pant and or Panty Load!

      August 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
    • fintastic

      @can meanwhile, you spew a bunch of crap without providing a single rational argument to ay of the VALID points wasp made....

      August 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • TargetDestroyed01

      "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Obama's problem is not that he has tried but that he has succeeded. And what he has succeeded at is profoundly damaging the country via Socialism. Socialism, has never worked. It ALWAYS ends up, if allowed to continue to its logical conclusion, in massive numbers of shallow unmarked graves. Example: China under Mao. Stalin's Soviet Union. Hitler's Germany.

      As an aside, ,ever notice that Socialism, no matter what form or where, always needs "saving"? That anything involving Socialism, be it Social Security, African countries, the Soviet Union, ....ANYTHING...eventually fails on a huge scale and harms unnumberable people for long periods time. Look at history, it is replete with examples.

      Do not look at intentions or emotions, look at results. Obama got what he wanted, and it has done great damage.

      I don't want to be harsh here but honestly, you HAVE to think instead of feel. Also, you might want to at least question what you think you know. Reagan summed it up like this, ",,,the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so."

      Stay skeptical, especially when intentions are involved, and you will eventually see that what you think is so, may very well not be. TD01

      August 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    • Mark

      WOW!!! You are an idiot aren't you? 1st about the WMD's please keep in mind that Pres. Clinton accused Saddam Hussein of having WMD's as well, while he was in office, and as far as that other jibberish B/S you spouted, Pres. Obama had the 1st 2 years with a mjaority house and senate. Remember the stimulus was suppose to put Americans back to work with shovel ready jobs, we had the summer of jobs. the summer of recovery, then there was the infamous jobless recovery, the health care plan as we find out today that Illinois is capping citizens with only 4 prescriptions, really I can go on and on. What a wasted presidency. Bottom Line is this, Get your facts straight and real before you go on a liberal rant.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
  11. Me

    “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.” Wow that is powerful coming from a black pastor. Glad to hear it.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
    • sam stone

      Yeah, nothing like standing up for bigotry

      August 2, 2012 at 8:03 am |
  12. WKT1186

    It is refreshing to see that there are still sane black Americans who can see what a disaster that Obama has been for this country. Obama was a blank slate in 2008 with no record to run on. He said whatever appealed to the average American, then once elected broke very single promise and went hard left liberal extremist on every issue. We cannot get rid of Obama fast enough......

    August 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
    • Susie

      Right on Pastor. This president iin 2008 claimed he was a Christian to get the evangelical vote. Once elected he began to implement programs and laws that are totally opposite of the beliefs of Christians. He will not fool us this time.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
  13. Lesbien

    First of all Obama is not the worst president we have had. I cancertaily name a few that were horrible. Second how in the world would a gay couple getting married and having the same rights as a man and woman couple hurt anyone?! We are suppose to be far from anymore racism and yet here we are always trying to find someone as a minority. And so now it is the gays and lesbiens who are targeted. STOP HATING PEOPLE!!!! That's what's wrong with this world. People think they have the right to tell someone else how to live there own life.

    August 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • MarkinGermany

      You mean like the liberal mayors hating Christians that own businesses for standing up for their beliefs? Like odumb-dumb hating Catholics so much he must have laws passed that take away their religious freedom? That kind of hate?

      August 1, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Me

      Exactly Mark.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • sam

      Congrats on dumbing down those issues into silly rhetoric, Mark. You obviously have practice doing that.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  14. BBJ

    Black pastors? What? Including only because of race? Excluding others because of their race? Sorry, no racism here. Move along now.

    August 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  15. Skip

    How has CNN decided these Pastors are "conservative?" Just made that up, I suppose.

    August 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • ME II

      The organization's web site, http://caapusa.org, states:
      "The Coalition of African-American Pastors is a grass-roots movement of African-American Christians who believe in traditional family values such as supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred insti[.]tution of marriage."

      One definition of "conservative" is:
      "A person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and atti[.]tudes, typically in relation to politics" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=conservative&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=p20ZUJroJ-XZ0QG4z4DQDA&ved=0CFoQkQ4)

      August 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • MarkinGermany

      To ME II

      One discription of conservative, but not the only one or the right one. That is a dictionary discription of a person of personal conservative tastes. For example, I am conservative in my attire as I do not wear fad clothes or color my hair blue or green. Not the political movement. I've seen tons of liberals who have conservative personal tastes and plenty of conservatives who color their hair blue (my wife for example).

      August 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
  16. Lynn

    Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world. Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
    Remember that? I think God created one race, didn't He? Stop with the color thing, we are all but shades of brown.

    Bottom line: It is time for a change in the White House. I am sick of Obama's crappy policies and I am ready for someone else to see if they can do a better job. I don't want to risk four more years of what we have gotten from this White House. I can't afford it.

    August 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • Which God??

      @ Lynn. .....'Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world.' Yes, the pastors and priests of the world churches, all good jeebus men, love the little children.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • fintastic

      Remember the pile of crap that was handed to Obama when he took office? The mess that Bush made? My how quickly we forget. You are truly ignorant if you think this mess can me magically fixed in less than 4 years, especially with Republicans fighting it every step of the way.

      August 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  17. craniumlogos

    God bless these righteous pastors, standing up to both a corrupt society and their own cultural group.

    August 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      corrupt society? OK well maybe I agree a little.
      righteous pastors? Not. Pompous, self-serving, narrow-minded, greedy and afraid perhaps.
      And you might want to explain who you think is "their own cultural group".

      August 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • sam

      Yeah...grandstanding over a non issue is definitely worth a blessing.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • sam stone

      apparently, even the black pastors need a ni**er

      August 2, 2012 at 8:04 am |
  18. E0F0G0

    Thanks be to God for my black brothers and sisters who stand on the truth of the Word of God!

    August 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • *facepalm*

      Well, until they start stoning disobedient children and non-christians, they're only going halfway.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • cubanrose

      Muslims Agree! The Holy Quran
      Allah says: “We also (sent) Lût: he said to his people: “Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds” [Sûrah al-A`râf: 80-81]

      August 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
    • wmdimes

      Hahhahaha ew.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  19. Rick

    Romans 1:24
    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    Romans 1:27
    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    John 8:44
    You are of your father, the devil, and it is your will to practice the lusts and gratify the desires [which are characteristic] of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a falsehood, he speaks what is natural to him, for he is a liar [himself] and the father of lies and of all that is false.

    August 1, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • cubanrose

      Allah says: “We also (sent) Lût: he said to his people: “Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds” [Sûrah al-A`râf: 80-81]

      August 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      More political gibberish from the self-proclaimed apostle Paul – the most dangerous character in the NT. And John – well his ramblings are so evident of drug abuse that one really has to be creative to make arguments from them. lol.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Fun with Bible Quotes

      From Deuteronomy – kill the non-Christians!!!!!!!!! :

      If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today

      Fun with Bible Quotes

      Deuteronomy?? My goodness, that has even been abandoned as for use as a laxative.

      August 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  20. Captain Obvious

    Is the author of this article really named "Dan Merica"? I bet you everyone at CNN pronounces it as "Damn America".

    August 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • ME II

      @Private Oblivious,
      What a silly comment.

      August 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
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