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August 1st, 2012
12:03 PM ET

'Where was God in Aurora?' comments show Internet as church for atheists

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - The Internet has become the de facto global church for atheists, agnostics and other doubters of God, who of course don’t have bricks-and-mortar churches in which to congregate.

We see this phenomenon in motion every day on the CNN Belief Blog, where atheists/agnostics/humanists are among the most zealous commenters.

Recent string of posts around the question of “Where was God in Aurora?” (such as this and this) drew especially large waves of comments that show atheists are using the Internet to commune with one another and to confront religious believers in ways that they don’t usually do in church.

Atheists and other secularists have offline organizations that stage in-person meetings - the Secular Student Alliance has seen its number of campus chapters quadruple in the last five years, to 368 - but the Internet has probably played a bigger role in the rise of the so-called New Atheism. The movement’s adherents evangelize their godlessness, just as many religious folks evangelize their God, often taking to the Belief Blog to do so.

“A lot of millennials who are coming of age have found that the Internet is a fantastic place to talk about their doubt,” says Jesse Galef, communications director for the Secular Student Alliance. “Before the Internet, there was no place for young people to do that. The only place to go was really church, and that wasn’t always a welcoming place.

“But they can go online and discuss these ideas without being judged by friends and families,” Galef says.

For closeted atheists, the Internet’s anonymity is a big draw. A coalition of national atheist groups recently launched a program to transition doubting clergy to lives of open atheism by first having ministers come out anonymously in a closed online community.

Plenty of other atheists, though, are using the Internet to connect with real, named people through Facebook and other online social networks.

“It’s the ability to access a larger community, particularly for people growing up in religiously conservative areas,” Galef says. “There is nobody they can point to to discuss their atheism or their doubts about the Bible or their morality, and the Internet provides that.”

On Sunday, a guest piece from a Colorado pastor argued that it’s possible to reconcile the idea of a sovereign God with the existence of evil and tragedy. The post has drawn 4,239 comments as of Wednesday morning, largely from atheists.

One of those comments - a letter from God penned by an atheist commenter named Colin - caught fire online. Here’s how his letter opens:

"Dear Christians:

"God here. I thought I would take the time to personally explain my absence in the Aurora shootings. While I was at it, I thought I would also explain my absence during every murder, massacre and crime that has ever taken place in world history, and in every war, in every famine, drought and flood.

"You see, I do not exist. I never have. Did it really make sense to you that I would create an entire universe with billions of billions of planets and wait about 13,700,000,000 years just so I could focus on a few Jews from Palestine about 2,000 years ago while ignoring the rest of the 200,000,000 people on the planet at the time? Did I make those few Jews or did those few Jews make me?"

The letter has been posted on reddit, where it attracted another 1,000-plus comments. (Warning: The reddit comments includes foul language.)

The vast majority of comments come from sympathetic atheists and other secularists (the discussion is reddit's atheism thread), a striking example of such folks doing church without God online. Many of those comments are deeply personal, confessional and poignant.

Here are five of the best ones. Some respond to Colin’s letter from God, others to the Colorado pastor who wrote for the Belief Blog last weekend.

1. CarbonEmitter

"I grew up religious and decided to be agnostic (as an) undergraduate. Even though I am now in my late 20s, I still feel slightly guilty because my parents try to ram religion down my throat. My mom converted to my dad's religion (from Christianity to Islam) right before having a double lung transplant in 1995. They are now super-religious and attribute her miraculous recovery to her conversion.

"Reading posts like these remind me of how ridiculous religion is and help relieve my guilt. Thank you /r/athiesm."

2. tazadar

"I like what Carl Sagan said about reassuring fables.

" 'The significance of our lives and our fragile planet is then determined only by our own wisdom and courage. We are the custodians of life's meaning. We long for a parent to care for us, to forgive us our errors, to save us from our childish mistakes. But knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring fable.' "

3. RyGuy2012

"You know, it really irks me to no end to read the article from the pastor, as he claims to not have an answer for why God didn't prevent the Aurora shooting, but then claims to know for sure that God is there when people come to lend their support and sympathies for the shooting victims.

"I just can't wrap my mind around this logic. Like, the pastor must find some other explanation why people are good and do good things. It can't be that people can just be good on their own. Because, apparently (our) natural normal state is to be completely uncaring and disregarding? It's just such a very sad and low opinion to have of your fellow man.

4. funfetti_cookies

"Of course, he says that. You have to scare the people before giving them a reason to listen - "I held her hand as she died." What a great way to start your article. Also don't forget to mention Columbine so people remember that tragedy as well, but then go on to explain why God still exists and this is all part of his plan. Religion is nothing more but a scare tactic to control the masses.

5. ConstipatedNinja

"I don't share this much, but I was raped twice by my pastor when I was 6. And by I don't share this much, I mean that even my own parents don't know (as a side note, he's long since dead, so there's no sense in bringing it up). I had to sit in the same room (with) him for three hours every Sunday while he told everyone - including me - how a decent human being should act. I had to for four entire years before my family moved to a different state.

"When it first happened, I had no idea what was done. I was too young to understand. ... It's indescribable. You're told all this time about this ever-loving being that made you and has planned out your entire life. You're told that he'll protect you when you need it. You're told that if you're good, then he'll be good to you. So obviously, I wasn't good. I wasn't good enough. I was created and the creator of all things looked down upon me and decided that I was a bad egg. Do you know how rough that is for a 7-year-old? I still have problems with self-esteem. …"

That comment, which has been truncated above, provoked an outpouring of sympathy and support on reddit, including this comment:

rumpelstiltskin1

"This stuff is why I love Reddit. Yeah we are a room full of strangers but when it comes down to it we're a community. I love reading the stories of others and reading the heartfelt replies. I love that anyone can express themselves honestly and it will be well-received here (usually). And although this one is a little cheeky, I love that I can learn valuable life lessons of self-acceptance and being able to move on from a guy named ConstipatedNinja. Thank you for sharing your story, and I admire the willingness to share such a personal story; it's truly inspirational."

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Atheism • Colorado • Violence

soundoff (4,699 Responses)
  1. irritated anti-redditor

    " love that anyone can express themselves honestly and it will be well-received here (usually). And although this one is a little cheeky, "

    Except if you are a girl. Then it's not safe to express your opinions.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  2. achepotlex

    God can't be everywhere...he was giving cancer to a baby that evening....bad timing....

    August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  3. Saint Joseph, NY

    I'm sick and tired of those atheists who constantly spread their hatred and shovel their evil nonfaith and act in our throats!

    August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Jesus must be so proud of you.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • OOO

      Better get used to seeing a lot of athiesm discussions (but not hate). There will be more and more of it. We are getting more educated and more vocal all the time. Our numbers are growing.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      Its blasphemy to call yourself a saint.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • RocklandMan

      I'm sick and tired of those religious zealots who constantly spread their hatred and shovel their evil faith and act in our throats!

      August 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Saint Joseph, NY

      " I'm sick and tired of those atheists who constantly spread their *hatred* and shovel their evil nonfaith and act in our throats! "

      No, -Saint Joe... We *hate* your *sins* but love you *sinnners* or something like that.

      Peace...

      August 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Colin

      PEace@all – ah my friend, the one who took the "the" out of psychotherapist – 🙂 How are you, dude?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Wow...pot meet kettle! We're not using a book to tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies; to tell people who they can and can't love; to deny equal rights to anyone...that would be the theist, not us...so please tell me again who is spreading hate? As for non-faith-that's the nicest thing you said! Faith is defined as belief without evidence, therefore if I have 'nonfaith' I must place my belief in the evidence. I care that what I believe is true and that it is based within the recent times, sadly you can't say the same.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Confused face

      Saint Joseph, I have faith in the Sun God Ra. Do I meet with your approval? I assume when you say "faith," you mean faith in any of the 10,000 gods which humanity has believed in at one point or another.

      Or are you an atheist when it comes to most of them (footnote: Richard Dawkins)? You must have faith in these gods. Either that or you will burn in eternal fake hell.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • sam

      I think this basically translates to "I'm sick and tired of people who disagree with what I think is the truth. Disagreeing with me = hatred!!"

      So you have atheists knock on your door and try to convert you? Is that how they force it on you? LOL

      August 1, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • visitor

      Sick of Christians who claim they are "saved". It's one thing when adults are talking, but I have had parents of my kids' friends tell my kids their souls were in trouble because they didn't have a close and personal relationship with Jesus. What sort of people do that? Trash.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
  4. dave

    Human beings have free will. Without free will, there would be no responsibility. It is not immoral for a lion to kill. It is for a human to kill. When a teacher acts immorally do atheists question the existence of knowledge? When a postman kills, do atheists question the existence of the postal system? I suppose when a theologian ponders the number of angel who can dance on the head of a pin, she is wasting her time. However, when a physist ponders how many multiple universes exist in the same time and space he is a genius.

    Religion is man's attempt to understand God; it will not be perfect.

    My life was controled by a mental obsession that was part of a fatal progressive disease. I could not stop myself. when I asked God for help, the obsession was removed. Maybe I cured myself and I just don't know it. Maybe all my friends cure themselves too. all I know is nothing worked untill I asked God for help.

    "You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: " "But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself;" You can say it is just good philosophy, but when I ask for help to try to live this way, my life is better.

    I really do not care to argue about how the world was made. The Bible, the Koran, the Upanishads, these are not science or history books to me.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • sam

      "When a teacher acts immorally do atheists question the existence of knowledge?"

      Ugh, dumb. Hilarious, but dumb. Nice try.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
    • Confused face

      The postman does not tell me I am going to hell because I do not believe as he does, nor does he claim he knows that his way is the answer. Most importantly, no one goes to the teacher or postman for their morality.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
  5. Time

    Can someone please explain to me why he made all of us, then made the sun kill us? It kills us quickly if we lay in it for days, or slowly with cancer. When it burns out earth will die. So what was the point? What was his endgame? If he made all of this for a reason why did he make the very thing that gave life to this planet kill everyone on it?

    After you think about that think about how much "bad" humans create every day. Then ask yourself, if I created all of this, wouldn't I have done it better, with less pain, suffering, loss, violence? If he is the smartest being in existence, then why did he make use to poorly, so obviously flawed?

    August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • cavediver

      unless God is just one big troll and all of this is just for his sick amusement, I, if given the same attributes given to him by the Bible would have done MUCH better..... any modern person would. the Bible is laughably ... inconsistent, contradictory...but much money and power rides on duping generation after generation.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  6. skridlow

    makes no difference whether there really is a God or not....if in fact such a deity exists, he/she/it has long since ceased to care what happens on this rock....want someone to believe in??? try the face that looks back at you every day from the mirror...a real good place to start...

    August 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  7. Iliam

    1st amendment says FREEDOM >> OF << RELIGION, including Freedom from Non-Christian religion.

    In God We Trust

    August 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • Henry

      Wasn't my idea to put that phrase on the money.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      In dog we trust.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • someone

      Except that you conveniently add the last part which is NOT part of the actual amendment.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  8. Matt

    Sometimes it makes me wish that Christians in Christian majority countries were intolerant as Muslims.
    Id!ot atheists are WAY too spoiled and should learn a lesson

    August 1, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Plaster City

      Wow Matt,
      What are you advocating here? Can you spell it out?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • Confused face

      Awesome. Angry, vengeful and intolerant. Just like your phony murderous god of the bible. That is why atheism is the future. Clowns like you will be relegated to the sidelines and no longer tolerated.

      More proof that god does not exist. The armies of god are angry and want to kill people who don't agree with them. You are a joke.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • Be fair

      And what lesson might you want to teach us, oh child of god?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      If you had a lesson to teach atheist would probably learn it quickly. But you spout nonsense.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • MERS

      True. Courtesy is learned through violence.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • skridlow

      well now Matt, you be be sure & let us atheists know when you figure out how to "teach us a lesson..." its arrogant fools such as yourself who give religion a bad name....

      August 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • sam

      How christian of you.

      Now let's turn it around: maybe you need a lesson. Christians have been far too comfy in America for far too long.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
    • toad

      Spank them Matt.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • sam

      Again, toad is obsessed with butts. Maybe try spanking him, I think he'll like it.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • silmaril

      But what if these christians didn't follow the version of the religion you do? What if you were required to handle poisonous snakes and speak in tongues every Sunday under pain of death? What if you were required to give up you 13yo daughters to whoever the religion's leader decided they should marry?

      What you need to understand is that religious freedom protects everyone because there's no guarantee that your still not going to end up in the minority.

      August 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
  9. Good Fight

    LETS ALL REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

    August 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      I'd prefer to also have freedom FROM religion.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Yes, Americans have the freedom to be as ignorant as they wish to be...

      August 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • someone

      And freedom from Atheism.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  10. RocklandMan

    "I know one thing, that I know nothing" -Socrates

    How does anyone claim to know the truth? If God is infinite and we are finite, by definition we cannot comprehend the truth. I guess that I'm agnostic because I don't believe in a specific god or gods. I never will but at the same time I do not disbelieve. I just know that I will go to my grave not knowing.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      I agree. But to create a god and establish rules is ridiculous.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • Henry

      Lamb.......It's a good thing Mel Brooks dropped a tablet or we'd have 15 rules. Damn.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  11. someone

    The existence of God is based on one simple word, "faith". Whether you choose to have it or not is your choice. Just because people don't believe the way you do doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong, it simply means your way of believing may or may not be the correct one.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Plaster City

      But siince the claim of the existance of a supernatural being means it has to be true for me too if it is true for you, doesn't that mean it is something we can debate?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
    • silmaril

      Explain how faith (simply believing something in the absence of evidence) is a valid way to judge the truth of anything.

      August 1, 2012 at 8:45 pm |
  12. Heather Rodger

    The answer is so simple that those whom claim to have intelligence completely miss it.
    God created man so that man would worship Him, and ONLY Him, because of the fact that He is the master Creator. God COMMANDS worship to Him, and to Him ALONE. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the A and the Z.
    Unfortunately since man was given free will (we wouldn't want to be FORCED to believe, right???), "man" has to make a decision- it is an actual ACT- not a noun but a VERB- to not only believe in God but to OBEY Him. So.....here's what occurs;
    When bad things happen to "man", there is a reason- as there is for everything God does. Every tragedy, affliction, travesty, injustice, ect... is ALLOWED to happen to "man" because of this; The evil one goes before God and asks His permission to wreak havoc, either on an individual or a group, and God either agrees to let it happen or denies the liar's request. His sole purpose in doing this is for the hope that the "man" He created will turn TOWARDS Him, repent and believe. Then once the "man" has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, God can give him the Holy Spirit to live within him. Once having the Living God as part of one's "body", the relationship between God, His Son, and His Spirit and the "man" can begin.
    You think I sound like a nut- I get it. I once was like so many of you and rebelled against anyhting that resembled "religion".
    But then I read the Bible. Me, the avid reader, always had a bible in my home but never picked it up. I now know that that was the liar's way of ensuring I would never know God. But after a year and a half of reading the Living God's Word, I am not only convinced of His existence but KNOW that the word "coincidence" is a farce and the only Truth is His.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • ChristianMingle.com

      Stupid. Why would god need to command to be worshipped if he doesn't have any compet.ition? Just show say high and he feed his ego for all of eternity, no work needed.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Kansas1946

      I never rebelled against religion and have read the Bible my whole life. Still do. And I am still an athiest.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Confused face

      The god you describe is an insecure egomaniac. Thanks, but I'll pass. Keep lying to children. Keep making things up as you go along.

      You don't have to live as an abject slave your whole life you know.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • snowboarder

      That is just plain hogwash.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • dman

      Atheists for Romney 2012! Because if I am going to have to put up with a nation based on religious dogma I want to know my president is wearing magical underpants.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Wow, I'm not rebelling. My story is quite simple. I was raised by a very devout christian family. My Mother was a firm believer until the day she passed away and to tell you how much I respect that lady, we just celebrated 25 years without her and in her memorial video that I created, I used words from her favorite hymn. I left home at 16...small town country girl stuck in a big city. From there I traveled a lot. I have met people from all walks of life and have witnessed more crap than need be. When I was 21, I met my daughter's father...a very pagan man, up until then I hadn't given other religions much thought....it was an eye-opener. We decided that we would raise her without a belief. My daughter is 18 now and off to college :-). 3 years ago on a whim I took a summer vacation to hang out with a good friend and just didn't look back...that good friend introduced me to a world of information that I might not have looked at otherwise...in peaking my curiosity I did some reading on my own and quickly watched my belief in god go from being a weak belief to non-existent. I have no problem with christians...some of the most wonderful people I know are, I have a problem when christians attempt to use their belief to dictate the basic rights of others. We live in the year 2012, it shouldn't be too difficult to realize that the book you hold so dear was written 2000 years ago, has never been updated and thus, outside of some of the good bits really isn't a needed document....it can't be used in a court of law or to dictate how laws are made. As much as I will never agree with the god factor because there simply is no evidence to back it, I have no issue with you believing, just don't be so arrogant and rude to think that everyone has to believe the same. Respect really is a two way street!

      August 1, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Standing on my head, trying any way I can to rationalise god's absense

      A being who is so needy that she needs a human's worship, is not worthy of the name.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • visitor

      Yep, simple.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
  13. bstump

    It's called free will. You would understand what God's place was in the Aurora shootings if you read the Bible instead of attacking it.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • Plaster City

      Who had the free will? The guy wanting to kill, or those wanting not to get killed? Which one is more important to god?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      Gods wasn't there. And he isn't anywhere.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  14. Sean

    I see the "Atheist" label thrown around a lot, and used to cover differing concepts.

    In one sense, an "Atheist" simply lacks belief in any god.

    Then you have the other kind of "Atheist" who will tell you with surety that no god exists.

    The difference is subtle, but extremely important. The second requires faith, whereas the first is more "scientific".

    August 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Sean,

      few religionists can see the distinction. They are programmed to interpret atheism as a transference of a belief in God to a belief in godlessness.

      They cannot accept the literal definition:
      Theism: belief in God
      Athesism: disbelief of God

      They want to extrapolate it into a belief in the non-existence of God, so they can challenge you to prove it, knowing that one cannot prove non-existence.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • cavediver

      Faith???? no ... there is no god...never was , never will be... there no possibility that an Ent.ty 'wished' it into being. All the evidence..all of it... points to no god..... the entire concept of god is a HUMAN construct..... Science is working on defining the existing mechanics of the universe. there are NOT two versions of atheism .... there is just one ...and i assure you no 'faith ' is required.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • cavediver

      P.S. Atheist = no belief ... not half- not believe, it is an absolute term
      Agnostic is the term used to discribe those that arent entirely sure.
      The Universe existed 13.7 billion years before us, and our silly creation myths and will go on billions of years after we, and our gods are gone....

      August 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
  15. Fields

    Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth...

    August 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • ME II

      So sayth an All Powerful being, supposedly.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      One of the best lines for keeping control of the masses.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • snowboarder

      Only the bold will inherit the earth. The meek are simply meek.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  16. Kansas1946

    "We see this phenomenon in motion every day on the CNN Belief Blog, where atheists/agnostics/humanists are among the most zealous commenters."
    ********************************************************
    Are you KIDDING me???????????? I think you should actually read the posts on the internet. Read some article about gay marriage and see whol the zealous (zealot) commenters are. Considering that roughly 95pct of Americans believe in a God of some sort, you give an awful lot of power to the 2 to 5pct who are atheists. I only wish that atheists had taken over the internet. Then when I support gay marriage I will get fewer calls for my soul to burn in hell.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • Confused face

      Yes, a "God of some sort." Like, the Flying Spaghetti Monster," or "Krinshna," or "VIshnu." How tolerant are you of the?

      What does your non-existent god teach you about these beliefs?

      August 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  17. Patrick

    Atheists are not using the Internet as a church. We use it to talk to fellow atheists. After centuries of being driven " underground" , being attacked, shunned, denied jobs, etc. we now have a way to talk to each other around the world. And you can bet the " God Squad" doesn't like that.
    We are not an organized group with rules and such. Plus we pay taxes unlike you know who.
    Atheists don't hit me up for money every week.
    Atheism doesn't tell me how to think, or talk, or live. I make those decisions.
    The only thing atheism really asks me to try to do is think for myself and question things.
    Religion almost forbids you from thinking for yourself and they get very nervous when you question things. Because when you truly take a look at religion, a lot of it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • bstump

      Yeah, because Christians aren't being attacked, shunned or denied jobs because of their beliefs.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • Patrick

      Bstump- here in the USA atheists are just about the last group you can openly insult in public and get away with it. I have never seen someone denied a job or promotion because they are religious or Christian. However if Joe Atheist openly talks about his views at work, and his boss is Christian, and his boss is Christian, and their boss is Christian, guess what ...it's unlikely Joe will get that promotion over a Christian candidate even if he's a way better worker. Oh and don't tell me Joe will get it because he's a better worker cause that's how the American way works crap. I have seen this happen with my own eyes. If you don't believe in their specific invisible amigo in the sky then you will only go but so far in the business hierarchy . It's wrong ,it's illegal, and it infest almost every level of American business and society.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
  18. Native Pride

    Yeah, if you want to come and check out hatred just come to the comment section of the CNN Belief. It's crazy what is spewed. You disagree fine, but then why even spend time mocking peoples beliefs in a God?

    August 1, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Native Pride,

      people (and their beliefs) only get mocked when they insist on having a monopoly on the truth.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
  19. Kris

    Seriously how could atheists raise their kids godless? Perhaps that's why we have thieves and murders in our society!

    August 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      Wow. You are delusional.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Satan

      You sir are retarded. Your god is a mass murderer, read the bible jackas.s.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      Don't forget about using terrorist nazis causing chaos. Fear is a poor way of pushing your religion.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • ME II

      I think percentage wise there are fewer atheists in prison than believeres.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • Plaster City

      Kris,
      What an ugly thing to say. And you know it's not true yet you say it anyway.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @MEII,

      actually there are fewer atheists than incarcerated felons.

      That makes the math easy.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      How old are you Kris? 10-11 years old. Your parents are lying to you. There is no god.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Kris

      " Seriously how could atheists raise their kids godless? Perhaps that's why we have thieves and murders in our society! " 😯

      So... atheists' kids = thieves and murders ? 😯

      Yikes !!!

      Peace...

      August 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • jennifer

      Atheists are some of the nicest, most moral people i know.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Patrick

      Kris, I don't need your buddy Jesus to tell me or any children I have that it's wrong to kill, or steal. By the way look around the world, how many people were killed in the name of somebody's god today. How many over the past 2012 years.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Kansas1946

      LOL. Well, if I were you I would get the statistics from prison. About the same percentage, 95pct of offenders, including violent offenders, believe in God. I am an atheist, actually let my children make their own decision about that, and they are also atheists. They also have never been in any kind of trouble, are middle aged adults now, their children have never been in any kind of trouble. They are hard working, kind, compassionate, contributing, members of society. Atheism is not what made them into the wonderful people that they are, just like religion doesn't turn people into killers. How folks turn out has very little to do with religion or lack thereof.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • RocklandMan

      That is so wrong.

      Organized religion is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL!

      Ireland- Catholics vs Protestants
      Middle East- Jews vs Muslims
      India- Hindus vs Muslims
      US- Christians vs Muslims

      How many wars have been started by religion? If there's a God and a Devil, it's the Devil that created religion – not God.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      kris: Seriously??? Really??? I don't know where you get that dumb ass opinion from but it is a dumb ass opinion and nothing more!! I raised my 18 year old without a belief in god and she just graduated high school and is off to college this fall. She is your typical teenager-she's smoked pot, she's drank, she's had sex but she doesn't have a criminal record and yes I would know...she tells me everything!! She's not perfect but she's not a bad kid either. By not raising her with a belief in your imaginary friend god, she has an open-mind and doesn't judge people based on belief/disbelief; what they do they do with their own bodies; their sexual orientation...nothing. So please don't go making assumptions b/c it only makes you look like a bigger ass.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
    • Steve

      A child cannot be born Christian, Muslim, or of any other religion the same way a child cannot be born Republican or Democrat. And I'd rather teach my child to think for himself then to take his values from a book that condones slavery, genocide, execution, and cult-like sacrifice. If atheists were to be removed from this country, it would remove 95% of of the science community and 1% of the prison population.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • bliko

      Yes. Must be why 1% of the US prison population is atheist.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • Confused face

      Let me know the next time an atheist flies a plane into a building. You are either brain-washed or brain dead or, now that I think of it, exactly what one would expect of an intolerant blood-thirsty god who produces intolerant bigoted followers.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • sam

      Holy crap, this is the dumbest post of the day, and that is really saying something.

      How can some parents raise their kids in a religion?? Must be why we have backward inbred window lickers.

      August 1, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • visitor

      Adolph Hitler baby.

      August 1, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
  20. rblock7

    THE RAPTURE IS HERE......
    Millions have suddenly dissappeared, we use less gasoline reducing its price to .25$ a gallon. We need less energy becuae there are fewer people to provide power to. The demands on the environment are less because of the massive reduction in people. War ceases because no one is killing one another over God or Allaha.
    Wait a minute....incomming news flash....what do you mean it didn't happen...no one is gone?.....There is no rapture?........S$#T.

    August 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
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