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August 4th, 2012
10:00 PM ET
My Faith: The danger of asking God ‘Why me?'
(CNN)–When I was diagnosed with cancer, the question “Why me?” was a natural one. Later, when I survived but others with the same kind of cancer died, I also had to ask, “Why me?” Suffering and death seem random, senseless. The recent Aurora, Colorado, shootings — in which some people were spared and others lost — is the latest, vivid example of this, but there are plenty of others every day: from casualties in the Syria uprising to victims of accidents on American roads. Tsunamis, tornadoes, household accidents - the list is long. As a minister, I’ve spent countless hours with suffering people crying: “Why did God let this happen?” In general I hear four answers to this question. Each is wrong, or at least inadequate. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories The first answer is “I guess this proves there is no God.” The problem with this thinking is that the problem of senseless suffering does not go away if you abandon belief in God. In his Letter from Birmingham Jail, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. said that if there was no higher divine law, there would be no way to tell if any particular human law was unjust. Likewise, if there is no God, then why do we have a sense of outrage and horror when suffering and tragedy occur? The strong eat the weak, there is no meaning, so why not? Friedrich Nietzsche exemplified that idea. When the atheist Nietzsche heard that a natural disaster had destroyed Java in 1883, he wrote a friend: “Two-hundred-thousand wiped out at a stroke—how magnificent!” Because there is no God, Nietzsche said, all value judgments are arbitrary. All definitions of justice are just the results of your culture or temperament. My Take: This is where God was in Aurora As different as they were, King and Nietzsche agreed on this point. If there is no God or higher divine law then violence is perfectly natural. So abandoning belief in God doesn’t help with the problem of suffering at all. The second response to suffering is: “While there is a God, he’s not completely in control of everything. He couldn’t stop this.” But that kind of God doesn’t really fit our definition of “God.” So that thinking hardly helps us with reconciling God and suffering. The third answer to the worst kind of suffering – seemingly senseless death – is: “God saves some people and lets others die because he favors and rewards good people.” But the Bible forcefully rejects the idea that people who suffer more are worse people than those who are spared suffering. This was the self-righteous premise of Job’s friends in that great Old Testament book. They sat around Job, who was experiencing one sorrow after another, and said “The reason this is happening to you and not us is because we are living right and you are not.” At the end of the book, God expresses his fury at Job’s ”miserable comforters.” The world is too fallen and deeply broken to fall into neat patterns of good people having good lives and bad people having bad lives. The fourth answer to suffering in the face of an all-powerful God is that God knows what he’s doing, so be quiet and trust him. This is partly right, but inadequate. It is inadequate because it is cold and because the Bible gives us more with which to face the terrors of life. God did not create a world with death and evil in it. It is the result of humankind turning away from him. We were put into this world to live wholly for him, and when instead we began to live for ourselves everything in our created reality began to fall apart, physically, socially and spiritually. Everything became subject to decay. But God did not abandon us. Only Christianity of all the world’s major religions teaches that God came to Earth in Jesus Christ and became subject to suffering and death himself, dying on the cross to take the punishment our sins deserved, so that someday he can return to Earth to end all suffering without ending us. Do you see what this means? We don’t know the reason God allows evil and suffering to continue, or why it is so random, but now at least we know what the reason isn’t, what it can’t be. It can’t be that he doesn’t love us. It can’t be that he doesn’t care. He is so committed to our ultimate happiness that he was willing to plunge into the greatest depths of suffering himself. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter Someone might say, “But that’s only half an answer to the question ‘Why?'” Yes, but it is the half that we need. If God actually explained all the reasons why he allows things to happen as they do, it would be too much for our finite brains. What we truly need is what little children need. They can’t understand most of what their parents allow and disallow for them. They need to know their parents love them and can be trusted. We need to know the same thing about God. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Timothy Keller. |
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Editor’s note: Timothy Keller is senior pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York and author of The New York Times best-selling book "
In New Orleans
They call the Risen Son
and it's been the salvation
of many a lost soul
Thank God
I know I'm one
So mothers tell your children
to do what I have done
Give your heart to Jesus Christ
The Fathers Risen Son.
I wish I could sh•t on a bi.tches breasts then ti.ty fvck her shi.tty ti.tties with my raging hard on. The blast my shi.tty hot load in her face.
Amen. God bless.
That is known as a "chillidog"
Here Satan, these folks belong to your IJ group.
Josef Stalin, (Joseph David Djugashvili) Djugashvili means "Jewison"
Adolph Hitler (Rothschild), Father: Alois Hiedler. Jewish Grandfather: Barron Salomon Mayer Rothschild
Winston Churchill (Jacobson), Jewish Mother: Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome
Franklin Roosevelt (Rosenvelt), 1st traceable Jewish ancestor: Claes Martenzan van Rosenvelt
Dwight David Jacob Eisenhower was Jewish, Born in Denison, Texas in 1890, his father was David Jacob "Eisenhower," although his mother was a Stover before marriage.
Jesus walks the water he's the lifeguard at our pool
Jesus walks the water he's the lifeguard at our pool
Jesus walks the water he's the lifeguard at our pool
Jesus saves, jesus saves, jesus saves
Jesus buys his groceries at the local A&P
Jesus buys his groceries at the local A&P
Jesus buys his groceries at the local A&P
Jesus saves, jesus saves, jesus saves.
Jesus drinks domestic wine, not the imported stuff
Jesus drinks domestic wine, not the imported stuff
Jesus drinks domestic wine, not the imported stuff
Jesus saves, jesus saves, jesus saves.
Jesus keeps his money in the bank of Omaha
Jesus keeps his money in the bank of Omaha
Jesus keeps his money in the bank of Omaha
Jesus saves, jesus saves, jesus saves.
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah
Jesus saves, jesus saves, jesus saves.
That's all folks. Amen.
Sorry, not true at all: god is the biggest abortionist of all. He saves who he wants to save. Why do you need prayer when (the religious claim) everything is god's plan? Prayer is going against god's will.
Why is it that the secular humanists advocate tolerance toward every belief system except christianity? Food for thought.
All religion is stupid. No gods.
Bullsh*it alert. Paranoid much atheism is a lack of belief in any deity, including the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Get over your delusion , you're welcome.
Nah ... We advocate free speech for all belief systems, but that doesn't excuse you from being ridiculed. Islam and all the others are just as ridiculous as christianity. We're not singling you out.
Godsmyjudge,
These forums are U.S. based. U.S. Christians want to rule the place according to their superst'itions. When or if any other myth-based group starts to have this agenda here, you will hear about it loud and clear.
walks with me and He talks with me, but He won't pay for my meds.....
KeepingItReal is exactly correct...
Some Christians state that their faith is about being good and believing in something greater and that Christians do a lot of good in the world, but the problem is that it doesn't end there. It NEVER ends there.
"Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." – Mark 16:15
"preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction." 2 Tim 4:2
See their deity commands them to spread this garbage to everyone you can. Conversion has always been central to the major religions. Of course Christians will always say that they just spread the word and it's the Holy Spirit that does the conversion. My friends, this is absolutely splitting hairs. Their goal is still conversion, and I don't care for that mentality one bit.
@Gosmyjudge: you think non-religious people are picking on christians? Really? How about President Bush saying back then that Atheists should not be allowed to be US citizens! And you think secular humanists are picking on you? This "war" between the religious and non-religious was started by the religious. Atheists just want to be left alone, living in peace and raising kids using common sense. However, christians (in this case) are forcing our children to pray and learn other religious non-sense in school and elsewhere. It does not end there: the religious are trying to mix religion and politics which is extremely dangerous – in particular when they believe in (potentially self-fulfilliing prophecy of) judgement day. How easy it would be for an extremist christian president to say: god just talked to me last night and said we need to bomb a country.
FreeThought: It already happened.
"One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did." "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
@tallulah13: thanks; I did not remember that part. We were lucky things did not get worse.
@And HE: so he walks with you and he talks with you? Why is it that it is ok in the United States to talk to "HIM" and that is ok? If someone said they were talking to their blow dryer and the blow dryer talked back, we put them in the loony bin.
This is wonderful. What a man of wisdom. Thank you.
Wisdom? I think you mean lack of. Don't ask why! It will make god mad.
@daeleesa: "wisdom"? He's trying to rationalize the irrational. Religion is for people who are afraid, who have been hurt or have been discarded by society. The bible does not explain suffering in a sufficient way. A great book on the subject of god and suffering by Bart Ehrman (a christian scholar) "God's problem".
Would God really subject Himself to suffering and pain? is He that low? God does not need our prayers or our faith, He is too grand and free of any need, including impulsion to come down to earth and show humans what they should do. Jesus was as human as we are, he showed how humans can persevere and live good life just like Muhammad did and Moses and Abraham. If God gives suffering, it could either be punishment for their sins, OR a chance for that person to show that he can persevere and still believe in benevolence and hope. Truth, Peace, Islam.
Or it could be that sheet happens. Get over it.
Yes he would and did. This is what separates the Triune God from the deistic ontology of Islamic thought (as well as all other religions). You say that it is too lofty a thing for the almighty God to become lowly. We proclaim that it is his true power to become lowly and conquer death by dying in our place. You can't assume a priori that God could not become man if in fact the Incarnation did happen in time and space. You assume your conclusion and that's faulty reasoning.
@ Matt
Yes God can be anything and everything because that is what defines a God. Just like God can destroy earth anytime, but why has He not done it? It is not in God's essence to destroy unjustly because being just is another one of His attributes. Which is why there WILL be judgement in some form on every species, not just humans, but animals and unseen creatures alike. There will be judgement on every individual muslim, christian, hindu alike for what they have done on earth.
@jasim: that is why we should not elect people with extremists views to office to represent the country. Having an extremist christian president is no better than a radical muslim leader.
@ Jasim-Thanks for the reply. Christianity agrees with the idea of divine final judgment based on our deeds. God is indeed holy and all humanity must render an account of their deeds unto him. That's what makes the Gospel so wonderful, of which the incarnation is an integral component. The obedience, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ is our hope in that his righteous obedience of the divine law is imputed to us so that our standing before God is not based on our imperfect, incomplete, and often self-motivated attempts at fulfilling the law of God. Not only that, but my flagrant disobedience of his law is places upon Christ and God's righteous judgment against my sin is satisfied. Instead of my paltry attempts at obedience, the Lord as judge looks at the obedience of Jesus and reckons it as my own (Rom 4:4-6). So I hope that makes our position clear and demonstrates why we are passionate to defend it from claims that Jesus is just a good moral teacher.
Grace and Peace to you, Matt
I live wholly for no one and no thing. A balanced life means some for God and some for me. Just like making money – some for today, some for tomorrow/retirement. God inspired my search for this balance, and I thank Him, even though it's taken decades. Well worth the wait.
Prayer changes things .
Once the children are brainwashed it is very difficult to deprogram them.
Other living things are sacrificed as required.
Preying on chidren is insane.
@Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things: you think prayer works? What does god have against amputees? If you can answer that 1 single question, you have converted me. Why does prayer only "work" on people who could have been possibly healed naturally? You never saw a pastor/reverend pray for a person who lost their limb and suddenly got their limb back.
Tim Keller is one of my living heroes.
I would lick Hayden Panetierre's but hole all night if given said oppurtunity.
You seem to have drifted off topic.
I want to fvck her mouth, personally.
Thank you sir, for speaking from personal experience of suffering, and from sharing in the suffering of others. There are no easy answers and if we were honest, we would not want any. There has to be something more than we see....because what we see is shadows and vapors until it happens to us. I believe God feels the suffering of people He created more than we can imagine....like holding your screaming child still, for a vaccination. A 2 yr old CAN'T understand polio, or pertussis, and feels momentarily betrayed by the one he's learned to trust, but in time...and with maturity, learns the love behind the "betrayal." When God removes the mist and we see Him as He is, all our questions and doubts will die on our lips because we will "know" in an instant Who has been with us all that time we felt so alone. I, for one, can't wait!
You should shave your hairy beaver. No one likes it.
which god???
@Tina: if you are interested in the topic of god and suffering, I highly recommend Bart Ehrmann's (Christian scholar) "God's problem" Very informative and should be read by all religious believers.
Atheists are evil. Jesus will sort them out.
This coming from someone with a screen name that is not from the sanctified, approved christian mythology?
That's OK, because I worship Dagan and he etas Jesus for breakfast.
I wish you could experience the power and truth that is Dagan. He has shown you the way; why do you reject him?
"Atheists are evil."
Lol. babies are evil
I prefer Crom, because valor pleases him.
How profound. You should write a book.
@Cerberus: atheists are evil? Really, have you read the bible????? If you believe in the bible, you also believe in murder, s3x with your children, slavery and on and on and on. I would say that is evil. But, perhaps you are like most christians, you have NOT read the bible, you rely on your pastor to tell you what is in the bible and listen to his "interpretation"?
"And God sayeth unto him, thou shalt poop on my face after I applyeth the saran wrap." Hot Carl 2:14-16
Would you truly prefer if this suffering happened to someone else, and not you? If your life was perfect and easy in every way, then you truly wouldn't be able to be 'happy'. Your version of happy would be seen as mediocre. In order to experience the best life has to offer you have to go through the worst or you can't compare the two. Besides, after whatever it is, happened, there is no way for you to go back and change it, so "why" is irrelevant.
So, when a hemophiliac child dies of AIDS that he contracted from a blood transfusion, and rednecks knock over his tombstone because AIDS is God's punishment for gays, this is so that I can appreciate happiness in my life?
How pathetic.
God created Hitler in his likeness. Remember that.
You also and both of you are a great disappointment to Him, perhaps you most of all.
Only a christian would believe that someone who doesn't believe in god is worse than a believer who was responsible for the deaths of millions of innocents. It kind of makes you wonder why christians think they are morally superior.
Tallulah, hitler was not a believer.
Hitler was a Christian. Just like you! Fact.
hitler was an atheist – HISTORICAL fact
Hitler was a Christian. Fact. He referenced god.in many of his speeches. Your wrong.
@truth be told
"hitler was an atheist – HISTORICAL fact"
Really, a historical fact? Please site your sources. It's apparent you know nothing about Hitler.
"Truth", your repeating of a lie doesn't make it a fact:
“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost
duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It
will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our
national morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”
[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]
I suspect Hitler knew more about his own beliefs than you do. Unless you ARE Hitler.
Anyone quoting hitler as truth must be by definition suspect. There was a secretary that recorded the true nature of hitler, not his political lies as a testament to the thousand year reich. hitler was the messiah of Nazi Germany the ultimate atheist his own god and his personal conversations were kept in a written record. hitler would say or do what he had to do to advance his cause but at his core he was firmly atheist. I know this does not fit with your hatred for Christianity and frankly i do not care. This is the Truth, hitler was an atheist.
This is the truth: You don't like it when people post things that prove that you are a complete liar. Your opinion doesn't change fact. And the fact remains: Hitler himself said he was a believer.
You have already been told the Truth and that i do not care if you believe it. hitlers mouth was the mouth of a liar. You are being duped by a dead liar, but you are not alone millions were duped in the 1930's and 40's. I will never accept the words of hitler as truth. sorry about you.
@truth be told
Hey -truth...
" hitlers mouth was the mouth of a liar. You are being duped by a dead liar, but you are not alone millions were duped in the 1930's and 40's. I will never accept the words of hitler as truth. "
You are demonstrating a version of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy in terms of your argument.
Regards,
Peace...
God doesn't want you to perish. While you are still alive there is still a chance to repent and believe in Jesus and you will be saved. "Today, if you hear his voice don't harden your heart".
I'm not afraid of death, and I am not able to force myself to believe in something for which there is no proof anyway.
Why did your incompetent "god" wait SO LONG to deliver this allegedly all-important message? What of all the countless generations of humankind that had to live out their lives before Jeebus was even born?
Yeah, no answer.
How close to death are you ?
@Godsmyjudge: what if god is a myth? You live your whole life afraid of a magical "friend". I just wish religious people would stop proselytizing to people who live in peace and are happy and do not want to be converted?
"Truth be Told" I'm guessing that you're asking me.
I am of an age to be much closer to death than to birth. I have a chronic health issue which may eventually kill me. I have watched three people I loved die of painful, lingering terminal illnesses and have thus learned that there is no joy found in over-prolonging the inevitable. I am not currently ready to die, and will regret leaving behind anything unfinished, but I have absolutely no fear of the end of my existence. There is no reason to fear, and nothing to be accomplished by fearing.
Do not die in fear, die in love. God is love.
lol he was!
IJs hated Paul as they did Jesus. They gave us:
Josef Stalin, (Joseph David Djugashvili) Djugashvili means "Jewison"
Adolph Hitler (Rothschild), Father: Alois Hiedler. Jewish Grandfather: Barron Salomon Mayer Rothschild
Winston Churchill (Jacobson), Jewish Mother: Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome
Franklin Roosevelt (Rosenvelt), 1st traceable Jewish ancestor: Claes Martenzan van Rosenvelt
Dwight David Jacob Eisenhower was Jewish, Born in Denison, Texas in 1890, his father was David Jacob "Eisenhower," although his mother was a Stover before marriage.
God, Why me? and why not me! if Jusus was the most inportant person was crusufied, what do we spect? we are not angel from heaven we always say bad word, talking trash about other and doing the wrong thing. We need to read the blible whenever we feel lost the aswer will be in the blible, If people die is not because their bad of sinners is because it was their time we never know how we are going to die, that is the lords desicion.
Yes, the Bible is full of answers. In it, we can take solace in God's instructions to kill children and hand over our daughters to his favorite lechers.
Why not just worship Satan? At least the serpent told the truth in the garden of Eden. God got pi.ssy and threw a tantrum that required not only a global flood, but also the brutal sacrifice of an innocent carpenter.
@Z: did you read Leviticus (or did you miss that part?)? How many people should be stoned for working on Sundays?? I could go on and on and on and on and on.... Unfortunately, religious people cherry-pick.
We don't cherry-pick, we actually know how to read the text properly. You're the one taking a verse by itself and reading it like a 21st century Westerner. Ever heard of hermeneutics?
@J: you should read some (any) of Bart Ehrmann's books; he's a christian scholar. I think he knows the topic better than you do.
I know who Erhmann is, and have read some of him (although, not a great deal). If you want to quote him to make a point for discussion, go ahead.
Also, I agree that he does know more than I do about semitic languages, etc. - but that doesn't make his conclusions or all of his premises correct.
"If there is no God or higher divine law then violence is perfectly natural."
Not necessarily dear reverend, or else all atheist would be violent, and they aren't, at least an overwhelming percentage of them. By now, humans know that anarchy is not in their best interest, and with or without God all humans must all get along and follow secular laws.
Dear reverend, some of us do have the intellect to fathom the morality of common good that we don't need the guidance of religion. Although religion serves a purpose for common good, it's not the only avenue. Like I always say to myself, we are half ruined by religion, without it we'll be wholly ruined.
That wasn't his point. His point was that atheists have no imperative reason to follow any code of ethics. You mention the morality of 'common good'. What good is that? And also, why does human flurishing matter when there is no hope beyond the grave? Why can't we all just live a life how we want in pursuit of pleasure and avoiding pain?
J, why do you need to believe that you are immortal in order to be happy? I don't understand. Why is a finite existence so horrible? Doesn't knowing that you only live so long make what you have more precious? Why can't you be grateful for what you are given, live the best life possible and accept your end without fear or regret?
I think C.S. Lewis eludes to the answer here:
"Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. A baby feels hunger: well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim: well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel s3xual desire: well, there is such a thing as s3x. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing."
J
"I think C.S. Lewis eludes to the answer here:"
He "eludes" it for sure.
Really, how so?
So you want something more than reality can provide. I don't know whether to think you arrogant or to pity you.
J
"Really, how so?"
That was mild razzing about writing "elude" instead of "allude".
Even so, C.S. was just doing a meandering, stream-of-consciousness pondering. No factual evidence was provided, so he did in a way "dodge" the question.
You obviously didn't read or understand Lewis' point. Let me break it down:
Premise 1: Every natural, innate desire in us corresponds to some real object that can satisfy that desire.
Premise 2: But there exists in us a desire which nothing in time, nothing on earth, no creature can satisfy.
Conclusion: Therefore there must exist something more than time, earth and creatures, which can satisfy this desire.
J: I think you are the one who doesn't get it. You want something you cant have. You want something outside of reality. There is no deeper meaning than that. Just because you want something doesn't mean that it actually exists.
Again, I can't decide if you think you are too good for reality, or if your life is so miserable that the only thing that makes it better is fantasy.
@J: I think that is called EVOLUTION =)
It's called the argument from desire. Here's a good explanation: http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/desire.htm/.
If you grant me both premises, then where did these desires come from and how can we make sense of them, outside of the aforementioned conclusion?
I can't prove there is a God, but I do know there is some strange reason everything came together to form Life on this one planet, Earth.
We humans keep looking out into the Universe to find some other Life, and so far, there is nothing as far as we can see from here on Earth and with our exploring heavenly vehicles. Now, scientists are trying to find new "particle's" (sub-atomic) to explain the Universe.
I keep reading scientists referring to the "Big Bang" that created the Universe. I can't believe these highly-educated men continue to give this explanation for everything. The obvious question they need to answer is: "what was here before your "Big Bang?" I use the term Universe to mean all-inclusive of everything that ever existed anywhere.
As to explaining the reason God lets people die...sometimes through much pain and suffering...it seems we forget, for those of us who believe in God, that the sins of the flesh and the accompanying pain and suffering are explained in the Bible as part of the big picture of Life. God creates the Life, but he does not micro-manage the activities of our bodies of flesh.
God's interest is the soul or spirit that always existed in God before it was put into each of us to give life to individual bodies of flesh.
We visit Life briefly, then return to our original being in God.
You realize that we have only begun to scratch the surface (and that may be an exaggeration) of exploring the Universe? Right? Of course we are going to look for life elsewhere! Otherwise, what a colossal WASTE of space!
karllinen – "We visit Life briefly, then return to our original being in God."
Thank you
You have just illustrated that your Jesus man sacrificed nothing.
Lol karlinen doesnt understand at all the big bang in relation to time lol just lol
@karllinen: I respect that you agree that you cannot prove there is a god; I agree I can't prove there is no god. However, the difference is that when one declares they believe in god, the burden of proof falls upon the person who claims the supernatural. Since you don't mind asking of scientists "what was here before your "Big Bang?" Why don't you ask yourself and other religious people "What was there before god?" That is a valid but unpopular question. Just because neither side can prove god/no god, does not mean you have to jump to conclusions. Why not just say: We have learned a lot since the bible was written (by human hands) – for example, we know the earth is not flat. We've learned a lot through science, and we keep learning.
Furthermore, Paul as much as conceded that spreading the "gospel" was completely unnecessary:
Romans 2:14-16 (New International Version)
14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)
So Xians have actually built their faith upon sand and not a rock, after all.
Karl, Lawrence Krauss in "A Universe from Nothing" offers a much more likely explanation for the universe and life than The Babble.
@zeus, let's hope curiosity lands safely on Mars tonight.
"I can't believe these highly-educated men continue to give this explanation for everything. The obvious question they need to answer is: "what was here before your "Big Bang?""
karllinen, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that sentence is full of irony. Time is a product of this universe, so asking what was before the Big Bang shows that your understanding of Physics invalidates any subsequent conclusions. Ridiculing the "highly-educated men" (no females in the field of Physics?) is like making fun of Mathematicians because they haven't been able to square the circle. It simply shows that you are treading in territory for which you are unqualified.
ooops
I accidentally attributed my previous comment to karllinen. I meant to simply respond to him/her.
The IJs hated Paul as much as they did Jesus. Conspired against them both.
Gave the world their motley crew:
Josef Stalin, (Joseph David Djugashvili) Djugashvili means "Jewison"
Adolph Hitler (Rothschild), Father: Alois Hiedler. Jewish Grandfather: Barron Salomon Mayer Rothschild
Winston Churchill (Jacobson), Jewish Mother: Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome
Franklin Roosevelt (Rosenvelt), 1st traceable Jewish ancestor: Claes Martenzan van Rosenvelt
Dwight David Jacob Eisenhower was Jewish, Born in Denison, Texas in 1890, his father was David Jacob "Eisenhower," although his mother was a Stover before marriage.
Jew is not a race but an adjective, hindu Judaism, criminal self center ism is nothing but hinduism, denial of truth absolute, innovation of Egyptian hindu, pagans to hind fool humanity to make them their gentile, slaves.