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Surveying the destroyed Joplin mosque.
August 8th, 2012
01:39 PM ET

Christian college student's idea leads to rally for burned mosque

By Josh Levs, CNN

(CNN) - When 20-year-old Ashley Carter heard about a mosque burned to the ground in her town this week, she was shocked.

"I was very saddened," she told CNN on Wednesday. "I thought it was very evil."

So Carter, a student at Ozark Christian College in Joplin, Missouri, texted a friend, suggesting they organize an event "promoting acts of love."

But quickly, the idea changed: They would organize a "rally of people coming together, from all walks of life, all religions, a really diverse group of people trying to promote this radical love."

She called Kimberly Kester, spokeswoman for the Islamic Society of Joplin, whose worship house serving about 50 families in the southwest Missouri city burned down Monday. Investigators have not determined the cause, but the mosque has been attacked in the past.

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Kester supported the idea. So Carter and some of her friends created the plan for the rally and announced it on a Facebook page. The next day, Tuesday, word began to spread. By Wednesday morning, more than 400 people had posted that they would attend the event, scheduled for Saturday, August 25.

Carter said she was inspired by "my love for Jesus. And I know that Jesus calls us to love people."

"With everything that's been happening in the news this week" - which includes a shooting Sunday at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that left six worshipers and the gunman dead - "I was pretty discouraged," Carter said. "Regardless of what you believe, I think everybody's entitled to loving whoever."

Kester told CNN she and other members of the mosque plan to attend the rally.

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The response to the burning from people throughout the community has been "outstanding," she said. "There were representatives from different churches, different organizations at the site that afternoon speaking to the Imam. People have been calling anyone that they know that has been involved with the mosque, offering to help."

St. Philip's Episcopal Church in Joplin is hosting an iftar - a meal eaten by Muslims after dark during Ramadan - on Wednesday evening. The Council on American-Islamic Relations announced that speakers will include members of the interfaith community. Sponsoring groups include the South Joplin Christian Church, the United Hebrew Congregation, the First Community Church and Peace Lutheran Church, CAIR said.

Representatives of various Islamic groups will attend, Kester said. They will discuss the future and what provisions are needed to continue Sunday school and prayers.

The mosque is holding daily prayers at someone's house now, and expects to rent a new place as soon as this week, although numerous religious institutions have offered their facilities, Kester said.

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"We're hoping for security and that type of support from our community," she added.

Members say this is an opportunity to kind of start over and improve on things that we've always wanted to improve upon, like our security system or Sunday school facilities," she said. "It's a time for us to unite and focus on supporting each other. And yes, it's a tragedy ... but we want to focus on coming together and building a stronger community."

No final decision has been made on whether the mosque will move to a new location, but there is a consensus to move inside the city limits, Kester said. "We feel that the response time for fire employees would be less if were in the city limits and it would offer us a little bit more protection and security."

No definite plans will be made before an investigation is completed into the burning, said the mosque's treasurer, Navid Zaidi. "We need to get this crime solved, before we do anything."

He said he hopes the rally is safe and that authorities keep everyone protected. Assuming the fire was arson, the perpetrator "is out there - he is loose," Zaidi said.

Zaidi described the support coming from the community as "tremendous."

A fundraising effort to help rebuild the mosque is off to an auspicious start.

The website of the official campaign shows a goal of $250,000, with more than $40,000 pledged by Wednesday afternoon.

A video for the campaign refers to the mosque as "our refuge in a crazy and hectic world." It shows what the mosque looked like, followed by images of the charred wreckage.

Arsalan Iftikhar, an international human rights lawyer and founder of TheMuslimGuy.com, tweeted that he will donate a dollar for every retweet of his message. He quickly got hundreds of retweets.

Iftikhar is a frequent contributor to CNN.com.

Carter says she expects donations to be taken at the rally. And anyone who wants to donate money to cover the costs of staging the rally can through the Facebook page.

Different kinds of bands will play, including religious bands, she said. And speakers will talk about "promoting love."

"When there's an act of hate, you have a choice to make it something beautiful. So that's what this is all about: making things beautiful from things that aren't."

–CNN's Anna-Lysa Gayle contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Islam • Missouri

soundoff (1,091 Responses)
  1. Reason is truth

    Way to go.... burn down more mosques please 🙂

    August 9, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • hinduism, denial of truth

      Moto of hindu Jew's, criminal self centered, end justifies the means, like a hindu filthy beast.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • tolerant

      wat? your reply names no sense. fail troll fail

      August 10, 2012 at 3:46 am |
  2. † In God We Trust †

    Churches are getting burned daily in Muslim majority countries, and in some countries it's illegal to worship in public or build a church. Islamic media never reports this. Christians are the only people in this world being persecuted all the time, yet being the most tolerant and peaceful people.

    August 9, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • NickD

      what? You are so wrong. There are christian churches throughout the middle east, and there have been some pretty violent christians ion the news lately. American christians murdering Americans.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Gee, how "awkward" for you that this is a complete and utter fabrication.

      I hope you don't have any progeny. That would be tragic.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      And you who are so proud of American exceptionalism, want to say that because other countries don't have freedom of religious expression as a founding principle, we should overlook hatred and bigotry?

      You are either proud of our founding values or not. If you are proud of our founding values, stamp out this hate within our borders and be that shining city on a hill that you claim to be.

      Then maybe others will see what we accomplish here and recognize it as 'right'.

      You think it's OK that we lower ourselves to their level?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Well, GOPer, from IGWT's level, it wouldn't be much of a drop. In fact, we might have to pull ourselves up some.
      IGWT is pretty durn low on the spectrum.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      There are no churches in Saudi Arabia, as well as some other strict Islamic nations.
      I could show you tons of websites and clips showing Christians being killed and persecuted in Islamic nation.. even in Syria!

      August 9, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And I can show YOU a video of a kitten playing Chopin.

      How stupid are you? Just because you find it on the web doesn't mean it's accurate. Just because you see something in a video doesn't mean that's what happened.

      Are you 14?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @IGWT,

      yes, there are lots of Muslim countries that don't have religious freedom. When Christian missionaries set up shop they get persecuted. So?? Did they not expect this reaction??

      Christians are persecuted in Nigeria and India. Does make it 'right' to behave the same way here?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Really, how can anyone who professes Christianity, hate so much?

      Jesus is pretty abundantly clear on the topic.

      Can it be any clearer than Matthew 5?
      -----
      38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'
      39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
      40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
      41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
      42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
      43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
      44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
      45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
      46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
      47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
      48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
      -----
      I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ, but these people think he is their pan-dimensional, pervasive, creator. This stuff is pretty unambigous!

      August 9, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • hinduism, denial of truth

      Who likes hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism, none but a hindu, pagan pretending to be follower of son of blessed Mary, labeled as Christianity.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Mr. denial,

      time to lay off the ganja. Have a lie down.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
  3. † In God We Trust †

    Tom @

    According to you I've read that you were born 1955, yet you act like someone who was born 10 years ago.
    Just read your comments. I hope you don't have any kids or family... so akward!

    August 9, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That would be "AWKWARD", you dumb fvck.

      So much for your superior intellect.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      I write fast. The only thing atheists do is worrying about grammar... their only debate!

      August 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, don't bother lying. You weren't "writing fast". You were thinking slowly.

      You're an idiot.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • † In God We Trust †

      At least I speak 4 languages... I'm pretty sure you only speak English, are fat, covered with piercings, gothic tattooes, dirty clothes, etc.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Guess again, loser. No tats, and the only piercings I have are those in my ears–one in each lobe.

      Anything else you want to do to make yourself look even more moronic?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, and not fat by any means, nor are my clothes dirty.

      Projecting, are you, little dweeb? Don't you have to get up for summer school classes tomorrow?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • Bob

      @Tom doesn't talk about her husband anymore. Its sad.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, Bob, my husband (of French descent) sends you this message:Vous êtes un trou du cul complet.

      Maybe your sock puppet can translate it for you.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob, you have never mentioned a wife or children. Did you murder them? Or did they die of boredom? Or did they off themselves to escape you?

      August 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Bob

      Vous avez une puissante imagination Tom.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too bad no one can say the same about your little member, BOOB.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Bob

      Aren't you some kind of K-12 teacher? Went around the bend and lost your job maybe? That would explain your French and all the time you have to do this crap.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Did you have a little experience at sleep-away camp, Bobo? That would perhaps go a long way to explaining your hom0phobia.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Bob

      @Tom OK it's nothing to be ashamed of. Just stop trying to work it out abusing other people.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  4. Steven

    Thank God the mosque is no longer there.... we don't need any idiotic mosques anywhere in America!
    We don't support any group of people who worship a dead pe.dophile

    August 9, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who's "we"? Got a gerbil up your anus?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      Thank what God Steven?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Steven

      Have you read the Quran? It shows clearly how violence that sh.it book is.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Have you read "Dick and Jane"?

      You should. You need to go back to the basics.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Yes, and in America people go to church to be preached to by living pe-dophiles or adulters, you pick your poison.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • tolerant

      Have you read the Bible? No violence in there huh? Nope, not any. Not even when a prophet was ordered to murder all the men and children and have the women taken by force so the previous residents of the area were bred out.

      Yah, that's not violent.

      August 10, 2012 at 3:50 am |
  5. Eat Pork

    Probably a Muslim who blew up him/her self that got the silly mosque burned down.... What do you expect of pigs to do?

    August 9, 2012 at 9:40 pm |
  6. Indian newly Christian

    So sweet Christians are..... that's one of the reason I left my Hindu faith to Christianity!

    August 9, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
  7. TexasRock

    We have freedom from Non-Christian religion in America.... so burn down all places of worship except churches!

    August 9, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
  8. Go Go!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FVCK ISLAM!!!

    August 9, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
  9. Rationalintn

    This article is a great example of how Americans should treat each other. I hope there is a huge turnout for this rally and they quickly raise their goal to help these people build a new mosque. What did that guy Jesus say, love your neighbor as yourself?

    I cannot believe that after the horror of the Joplin tornado last year, someone would try to burn down this mosque. How quickly some forget, and return to attack members of their own community.

    August 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • Morris

      And this letters column is a reflection of how America really is. A bunch of stupid bigots.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
  10. Lizzy10

    How refreshing to read about someone who really practices what they preach.

    August 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Commojoe53

      Amen to this story; let's hope to see more of us work together to be a help to others in any need!

      August 9, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
  11. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    August 9, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      True – if you pray for a really long time, you'll have a stool of a different color!

      August 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! , .

      August 10, 2012 at 10:49 am |
  12. Rod C. Venger

    These fools are just sheep for the shearing, and these words were spoken by a practical Christian.

    August 9, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
  13. I concur

    What do they expect? The surrounding area is still full of KKK.....

    August 9, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
  14. Adam

    I don't feel bad that a mosque got burned down to the ground.
    I feel bad that you have no where to pray because it is what we do.

    However; the logic stands:

    Christians try over and over again to build churches around the Muslim world but few stay up or even are allowed to be built. Until Muslims allow Christians freedom to pray around the world: don't be surprised why your mosques are NOT welcome in our neighborhoods. Hate brings hate. Enough said.

    Just imagine what some loyal American is carefully planning for in New York where a mosque wants to be near the site of the TWIN TOWERS: the destruction of a mosque that disgraced his birth spot and national pride down to the ground.

    When Muslims spot being hypocrites in their part of the world and allow Christians and other religions to build in their part of the world: Your mosques will be left in PEACE. Fair is fair in love and war.

    August 9, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • RedWhite&Blue

      You are absolutely wrong. Muslims have allowed churches and monasteries in their country from the earliest times of Islam. By contrast, look at a country like Spain where during the Inquistion Mosques were destroyed or reshaped into churches, Muslims were slaughtered or tortured into relinquishing their faith. Similarly, now in Israel, many mosques have been burnt or vandalized.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • with sympathy

      Better a pile of ash and rubble than an idolatrous mosque

      August 9, 2012 at 8:58 pm |
    • PeaceLover

      I think you are the person or falls under that "HATE" category who burnt the mosque. People like you love hate and die hating..does not accomplish anything in the life.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
    • guest

      Hate brings hate... Fair is fair in love and war...

      Straight out of the Bible??????

      All I can say is wow...

      August 9, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • NickD

      You do not nor will you ever speak for this christian American. That you cons=done these actrions of violence makes you a terrorist supporter. Either you are against terrorism or you support it. i stand against terrorism whether it is done by Christians, athiets Muslims or anyone else. Yours is a very sick mind.

      August 9, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • tolerant

      Different countries make their own rules. This country was founded on religious freedom which means everyone can worship freely. Other countries have different rules. Almost all Muslim countries allow churches and synagogues. Those that choose not to made their choice but it isn't for us to force anyone to do anything. Don't go live in that country if you don't like it but don't deny people HERE in THIS country the rights afforded to them by what it was founded on.

      Instead, be proud you live in a country that rises above discrimination based on religion. Let others live as they may.

      August 10, 2012 at 3:55 am |
  15. Bob from Pittsburgh

    Waaa waaaa tom is gone, and I don't know what a toof is... waaaa

    August 9, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Go to WestByGod Virginia or Mississippi and "aks". Someone will tell you.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • WV

      And why all the hate toward WV and Miss? Aim it toward Penn unless you have no idea where Pittsburgh is.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sweetie darling, I have no animosity toward WV. A friend of mine grew up there and even HE calls it 'West byGodVirginia" and laughs about the fact that he grew up hearing about Appalachia and then realized he was IN it. I'm from central Pennsyltucky, honey. Don't take offense where none's intended.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:27 pm |
  16. hinduism, denial of truth

    word Jesus is corruption of name of son of blessed Mary, EASU, anointed one, a blessing from higher authority in Hebrew language, Letter J is added to make him a Jew, self centered, but he was a Hebrew, dedicated to truth absolute, Ellohim, The truth absolute, Letter A is deleted to to conform to hindu, pagan trinity, letter S is added to show respect by Hebrew fundamental, but not many people, having no meaning what so ever, to hind, deceive humanity from his true teachings, WAY OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE,by hindu's, crooks of Egypt and Persia to create hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism, labeled as Christianity.

    August 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Blah, blah. Blah, y blah. BLAH!!!

      August 9, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • Bob from Pittsburgh

      Are we there yet?

      August 9, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • GoodGrief

      Hinduism is the native religion of India, is an admixture of Buddhism, Brahmanism, and many deities residing in objects and animals.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • k.madhukar

      First you should go back to school and learn to write what others can understand.looks like you are a drop out from kinder gartan

      August 9, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
  17. Johnny America

    I dont see any atheists helping out.

    August 9, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are YOU there? Do you think atheists wear signs? You know, like the Scarlet Letter A?

      How dumb are you, anyway?

      August 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Atheists are busy doing other things like supporting Doctors Without Borders and UNICEF and ensuring Planned Parenthood doesn't get abolished due to christards thinking they get a say in someone's personal life. I'm sure any Atheist would be happy to help out because we're like that and we don't come with a 'strings-attached' deal.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Quite so, TP. I don't need to tell anyone what I do to support others, since I'm not a member of some church that considers public service a social event.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Oklahoma Atheist

      Think again, Johnny.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • butterfly

      athiests believe in a god that does not exist. they believe in chance happenings. they think everything happens by chance. i call myself a non-practiser. i do not practise any religion. but i am not an athiest. it is called the declaration of non-alignment for the sake of peace.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, we know you're not an 'atheist', since you're too dumb to know how to spell the word, dear.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:39 pm |
    • Keith

      Liarprevails, You racist piece of trash. You support planned parenthood? Go check out infowars story about a planned parenthood abortion "doctor".
      Pro-life Christian group confronting an abortion doctor. The doctor says his abortions save taxpayers money, prevent shootings like the one in Colorado, and rid the world of “ugly black babies.”
      You are a cowardly murderer, Liarprevails. Why don't you try to abort someone your own size?

      August 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Figures KEEF! would think infowars is a valid source of neutral, unbiased information.

      KEEF! Even dumber now, with added IGNORANCE for that FRESH scent!!! Buy some today!

      August 9, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey, KEEF? If you knew I was the fetus/embryo, would you approve of an abortion for the woman carrying me??

      Be careful, dear. Think over your answer.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Keith: You uneducated idiot!! Abortion and what a woman does with her body is none of your fucking business but to educate you slightly, Planned Parenthood does more than just support abortion...it provides proper health care, breast cancer screening, birth control, and education. Abortion is legal and will remain that way whether you like it or not. I understand that breaks your poor pathetic stone heart but your belief has no impact in this world.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
    • Keith

      Liarprevails, Allow me to use one of toms favorite sources, WND, who also covered the story:

      “Let me see one of you adopt one of those ugly black babies,” she says.

      “Excuse me? It’s all too obvious that he has a particular disgust for black babies and therefore has no problems killing them,” Gardner responds. “The black community should be outraged because Ashutosh Virmani is a brazen racist and his statement supports what we already know of the billion dollar abortion industry–black babies are targeted because they are seen as poor, worthless and maybe even ‘ugly.’”

      August 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Stop stalling KEEF the KOWARD. Answer the question.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      KEEF! Can you cite any other source for your "fairy tale"? Because World Nut Daily doesn't count as a source unless you're also allowing the National Enquirer and Jerry Springer to count as reliable sources.

      Are you drunk, KEEF? You surely do appear so.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
    • Keith

      Liarprevails, I have a stone heart? I'm not the one killing defenseless babies. You are a murderer. And a racist one at that. You will answer for your crimes someday-maybe in this life, but for sure the next. And you are wrong(as usual) about abortion remaining legal. When Christ comes back to rule this earth with a rod of iron, I guran-damn-tee you there will be no more planned parenthood. I so look forward to that day. You'll likely be in hell at that point.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      More stalling from KEEF! the Hypocrite.

      Why don't you answer, KEEF?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Keith: Maybe had your Mommy swallowed when she was supposed to the world would be a better place. 🙂 Please explain how a woman's choice to abort affects you personally.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:01 pm |
    • Keith

      [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mzUPk9Usdc&w=560&h=315%5D

      August 9, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Keith: I'm not killing anything you idiot!! I am supporting a woman's right to do with her body as she wishes and I'm far from racist-I have numerous friends who are not Caucasian. You are a bigoted loser. The only thing you have to back you is that 2000 year old book of multiple choice...we have numerous books to back us. Your Mommy should have aborted you though...the world would be a better place!

      August 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What a little chickens!t the big bad KEEF really is. Can't even answer a simple question.

      What do you bet he's never been married or even been seriously involved with any woman in his entire sad little life?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
    • Keith

      http://www.infowars.com/abortionist-calls-murdering-ugly-black-babies-a-service/
      Watch the video of the "doctor" yourself.
      Or I'm sure cnn covered the story, NOT!

      August 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Keith

      I'm absolutely comitted to restraining you cunts since you are by nature unable to plan your own fucking lives. Does that spell it out for you tards?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Still afraid to answer? Poor little KEEF. What a coward.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Tina

      Keith is clearly a wimp with a small unit.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Small? Millimeters would be too big to accurately measure his "manhood".

      August 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • Keith

      Liarprevails, Black bears and Indians don't count. This guy is killing "ugly black babies". I'm actually surprised he calls them babies. As for your murderous spirit that is in you, Liarprevails-it sure does shine through in your posts. You can't help yourself. Just like your father, Satan-who was a murderer from the beginning. The murdering spirit of the atheist. Disgusting.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Keith

      What a nasty as/b>swipe you are Tom. And when and what Liarprevails swallows is only interesting when you wonder why AtheistSteve gives her a roof over her head. Why don't you both go away and eat some pickled fetuses or something?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Keith

      Isn't that just like you turds...you know deep down in your heart that you support MURDERING children-so you resort to imitating me. What losers you are.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And still, KEEF is too much of a pus sy to answer. I'll bet he'd be all in favor of an abortion if it were Muslim embryos we were discussing.

      But of course, he's too much of a hypocrite to admit it.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Looks like KEEF has had one or 12 too many! Can't manage to write a coherent sentence now. What a shock. Come on, Keith. Why don't you tell the truth? If the fetus were Muslim, how'd you feel about abortion then? What if you'd had the opportunity to authorize an abortion for my mother, had she wanted or been able to get one? Would you have approved then?

      August 9, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • Keith

      It is unfortunate that you weren't aborted Tom Tom. But you're an irrelevant non-contributor to the gene pool (thank God).

      August 9, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      FINALLY!!! And there you have it. KEEF is definitely in favor of abortion, as long as HE is the one who gets to choose.

      Thanks for admitting it, you fvcking hypocrite.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • Keith

      Tom, Let's get one thing straight-you don't d.ictate a damn thing to me. I'll answer you(maybe) when I'm damn good and ready. Got that?
      As per your question:
      Hey, KEEF? If you knew I was the fetus/embryo, would you approve of an abortion for the woman carrying me??
      The answer would be absolutely not. You see, tom, I don't hate you-I feel sorry for you. I believe God has given you over to a reprobate mind. You are in deep cr.ap. I'm not sure you can possibly come back from the edge of the abyss you are about to fall into. That is sad. I've prayed for you in the past, tom. And I'll do it again. But I fear you're past the point of no return.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      The silence you notice, KEEF, is the lack of any shock on the part of anyone who's seen your hateful, xenophobic, misogynistic posts. Nobody is surprised that you approve of abortion when they object is someone you deem "undesirable". You don't want women to have any say but you think it's perfectly all right for you to decide who should or shouldn't be aborted.

      Well, honey, you've certainly shown your true colors. Thanks. i was hoping you'd out yourself as the hateful sh!t you are.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too late to retract, KEEF. You already gave it up and outed yourself. No way to come back from that. Can't un-ring that bell, honey.

      You want to get rid of those you hate and if you could, you'd have had them aborted.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:31 pm |
    • Keith

      That's "hateful shit" fucktard.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Keith

      You selfish witch. Please explain how a woman's choice to abort affects you personally
      It has nothing to do with me.
      It has nothing to do with a "woman's choice".
      What about the baby's choice?
      It has everything to do with what God wants. God hates child sacrifice.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Thanks for playing, KEEF! Oh, and save your "prayers". I doubt any god worth his salt would pay attention to the entreaties of a bigot, hom0phobe, xenophobe and misogynist such as yourself.

      If anyone's past the point of no return, it's you.

      See ya. Sleep tight, little hater.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • Keith

      So tom, once again you resort to imitating me? You are a piece of work. You are dense. I'm done with you for now. You lose. Again.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And thank you for playing, Tom Tom.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      You heard it here folks. Prayer does not work. Finally that's settled.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Keith: You lose and always will!! It is your imaginary friend and according to it, judge not lest ye be judged. Your imaginary friends rules can't be used in a court of law, so they have no god damn say in anything else. What a woman does with her body can't be guided by it and thus it has no fucking pertinence. It is your hell, you enjoy it...we're not so brain fucked to fall for the stories.

      August 10, 2012 at 5:25 am |
    • Keith

      So let's get this straight-just for the record: ttps(a white woman) is for killing ugly black babies, Liarprevails(a white woman) is for killing ugly black babies, Tina(?) is for killing ugly black babies, and Hawaiiguest(?) is for killing ugly black babies.
      Congratulations you racists white supremacists. Are you covered with "white power, white pride" tatoos? It must please you immensely to know that abortion has been exported to Africa by the US as a contingent to receiving foreign aid-there's lots of black babies there to abort(and not many whites, hmmmm). Right up your alley. You can whitewash yourself all you want, but you're cold-hearted baby killers-and you know it. You're also evidently quite racist. Gee, I guess that also makes you Hypocrites to the n'th degree, too.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:00 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      @Keith
      Where exactly do you get the idea that abortion is murder? Abortion is legal and nowhere in the legal system is it defined as murder. Since your opinion isn't on par with the law we can dismiss what you say as simply religious nonsense. And where do you get the idea that a 1st trimester fetus is a baby? If it was a baby then why does the medical community call it a fetus? Or a gamete or a zygote? As far as I can tell nobody calls it a baby until it's born. And finally if you think ending a pregnancy is murder then you also have to maintain that preventing one using birth control is also murder or you come across as a total hypocrite. Of course then you're just saying that condoms=murder and we know you're a complete nutcase.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:17 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Keith: No, lets get straight bozo...I'm not for killing anyone regardless of skin color. Abortion is not murder, nowhere in your giant book of fairy tales does it state it is either. However, once again your belief does not define what is legal in this world and the laws of the land state that abortion up to the end of the first trimester is legal. The laws that state that are the ones that matter. I am all for a woman's right to do as she wishes with her body...something that is clearly not your business and given that your imaginary friend can't be proven to exist, it thus is nothing to do with it either. You do not live in a theocracy, you live in a secular country...your beliefs are not the only ones to exist and thus not the only ones to respect.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Did you hear the one about the bull sh it Canadians minding their own business?

      August 10, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      You won't the ass holes are on here trying to impersonate Americans as if their bull sh it opinions had relevance here. News to Canadian ass holes you have nothing of value to offer us or your own country either.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      And if you look carefully your God is responsible for more deaths of non born and newborns than you can imagine. From fertilized eggs that fail to implant to implanted eggs that self abort to stillborns to infant deaths all the way up to children that don't make it past the age of 5 from disease, malnutrition, birth defects and natural disasters. In fact in a essay by Gregory Paul called the Holocaust of the Children your God has directly caused the death of over 50 billion pre adolescent children throughout human history. This is the legacy of your appalling monster God. A brutal child killer if you believe (as you clearly do) that every potential life is sacred.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Dodney Rangerfield: Hey fucktard...still haven't learned the definition of the word international, have you?

      August 10, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Keith

      It would appear that Athiest Steve is also for slicing up ugly black babies. Are there any black people in your neighborhood that are aware you and Liarprevails hold these views? And just because evil is legislated-it doesn't make it any less evil. Like putting perfume on a pig. Tp, I wasn't aware you have read and understood the Bible. You will find out how much a "fairy tale" it is someday. Just remember-eternity is a long time.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Dodney Rangerfield

      Hey phony qu eer bait Canadian still haven't learned the meaning of mind your own F' n business.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:55 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Keith, if you knew before its birth that an infant would be hom0s3xual, would you approve of aborting it?

      Don't lie, dear. You've already spewed your quota of untruths for the day.

      August 10, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • pervert alert

      Qu eers are not born, they sin themselves into it. Qu eers the folks who gave the world AIDS

      August 10, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      @Keith
      Say whatever you wish. Doesn't change the fact that your "God", by your own criteria is the biggest baby killer of all time. Of course none of that is true any more than the existence of your god is true.

      August 10, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Keith

      pervert alert
      I was born a qu.eer-and a liar, and a theif, and a murderer-but I chose not to continue in those sins.

      August 10, 2012 at 11:15 am |
  18. Steve

    Why don't muslims do this when one of theirs commits – or plots to – a heinous attack against us, non-muslim americans?

    August 9, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • paperjihad

      The United Arab Emirates donated $5 million to rebuild Joplin's Mercy Hospital after it was destroyed by the F5 tornado last year, and an additional $1 million to buy laptops for all of Joplin's high school students.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • RedWhite&Blue

      Actually, you are wrong. Muslims have stood with people of other faiths when bad things have happened to them. When Katrina happened, Muslim volunteers went down to New Orleans and helped. When the earthquake in Haiti took place, they also provided help. When the Sikh Temple shootings took place, Muslims stood side by side with people of the Sikh faith. Just google the following words "American Muslims Stand with Sikhs After Wis. Shootings" and read the articles that come up.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:00 pm |
  19. roccop777

    What a contrast - students from a Christian college holding a rally to share the sorrow for the burnt down mosque and show Muslims the love Jesus inspires in them. In Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Tanzania, Algeria, Nigeria, India etc. scores of Christian church buildings are burned down on a regular basis, but I have never heard of Al-Azhar University in Cairo (the mot prestigious Sunni islamic university), nor any other islamic place of higher learning for that matter, holding a rally to protest such behavior, encourage the victims and show the love of Islam.
    Jesus said: "And all people will know you are my disciples by your love". I challenge Muslims to out love the followers of Jesus!

    August 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • Ross

      They will when they convert over to Christianity because Jesus' truth sets you free.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
    • Sahair

      You have never HEARD of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Your arrogance astounds me, lmao!

      August 9, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • serendipity

      1. Muslims are not allowed to broadcast and advertise their acts of charity because then it makes the act meaningless and appears showing off
      2. The media does not let their voice be heard – ever thought of THAT??? Duh! When people who DON'T want muslims to be heard control the media what can muslims do?

      August 9, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
    • Oklahoma Atheist

      And I could "challenge" you to "outlove" a humanist. See how silly such a challenge is? No group has the market cornered on love, compassion, dignity, and respect. Love because it's the right thing to do, not because you have something to prove.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • HRoach

      Yes you do hear about churches being burned down in the Middle East and North Africa occasionally but what you don't usually hear is the backround story or about the other 99% of Muslims and Christians who get along and interact normally on a daily basis. You also don't get to see the show of support that they give each other. Having lived in Egypt for a long time before and after the revolution, I can tell you that I have seen incredible moments where the two religions have protected one another including times when Al-Azhar, that you talk about, has openly supported the Christians as well as educating Sunnis, Shi'as and Christians all within the confines of their university. Thats just some of what you don't see on the news but just because you don't see it doesn't mean that these types of things aren't happening.

      August 9, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • RedWhite&Blue

      You are wrong. When the Copts church was attacked last year, Muslims stood in a circle around the church to protect it. Muslims have protected churches, synagogues and temples. There are monasteries and churches that have existed and are still standing since Islam came about. Go to the Holy land and see for yourself the churches that were protected under Muslim rule for over 1400 until Israel took over. On the hand, go to Spain, and see the mosques that were reshaped to be churches or destroyed by the Inquisition.

      August 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm |
  20. Reality

    If this were a Shiite mosque and there is proof that it was arson, then there is a high probability that the arsonist was a Sunni Muslim. And vice-versa if it were a Sunni mosque.

    But to date, arson has not been listed as a cause.

    More on the Sunni-Shiite global feud

    The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
    ---------------

    August 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • Bob from Pittsburgh

      or provably was a one tooth white tea bagger..

      August 9, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bob, that's spelled "toof".

      August 9, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Bob from Pittsburgh

      What is a toof?

      August 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm |
    • Bob from Pittsburgh

      do you have a toof?

      August 9, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I has all my teefs, Bob from Pittsburgh.

      August 9, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • King

      Lets get your facts straight, there is a church in every middle east country even saudi arabia. What wrong with building a mosque near TWIN TOWER site, there is strip club closer to TWIN TOWER site than the site of mosque, isn't that disrespect to the victims of 9/11. Also many muslim died in 9/11 attack, how come no one talks about that?

      August 9, 2012 at 8:36 pm |
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