Evangelist Billy Graham hospitalized
Billy Graham delivers a message during one of his crusades at Flushing Meadows Park, New York, in 2005.
August 12th, 2012
01:41 PM ET

Evangelist Billy Graham hospitalized

By the CNN Wire Staff

Updated Monday 5:30 a.m.

(CNN) - Evangelist Billy Graham was admitted to a hospital overnight for treatment of a pulmonary infection believed to be bronchitis, a North Carolina hospital and his evangelistic association said.

"Upon admission, he was alert and in good spirits," said the statement, which was released both by Mission Hospital in Asheville and the The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.

The 93-year-old also was hospitalized for pneumonia last November, six months after similarly being admitted to a hospital for the same condition. Since then, he has remained "in good overall health ... though he continues to remain at home due to age-related conditions," according to the hospital and the association.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Billy Graham • Christianity

soundoff (479 Responses)
  1. truth be told

    Rev Graham is in his 90's an age most of the so called atheists on these blogs will never see. Gods grace is extended to Rev Graham.

    August 13, 2012 at 5:55 am |
    • Mirosal

      Whatever happened to the saying of "only the good die young"? Graham is 93, that isn't very young lol

      August 13, 2012 at 6:06 am |
    • truth be told

      Billy Joel isn't a prophet and neither are you.

      August 13, 2012 at 6:08 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Belief has nothing to do with life expectancy. Atheists are more likely to live long healthy lives due to not relying on prayer and an imaginary friend to heal them and due to seeing reality in this world for what it is.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:17 am |
    • sam stone

      truthbetold: pull your head out of your a$$. true, most atheists on this blog will never see 90, but then so will most christians.

      August 13, 2012 at 8:15 am |
  2. 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

    The passing of dinosaurs such as this asshole should be a step towards all delusional believers discarding their childish and completely unfounded beliefs in supernatural beings.

    August 13, 2012 at 2:30 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      When Atheist Christopher Hitchens died of Cancer it was a sad moment because a humans life was over. That he was an Atheist did not matter because it was the loss of life.

      Its a cold person that finds joy in the loss of any life.

      August 13, 2012 at 2:54 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      I do not find joy in anyone's death.

      I am excited by the inreased potential of many shedding delusional beliefs as a result of a charlatan no longer being around to spew their crap.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:06 am |
    • HeavenSent

      2:30 in the morning 0G writes his venom. Good grief.

      August 13, 2012 at 6:41 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      HS, you don't have a clue – about which time zone I live in, why I might be awake at 2:30 AM ET, or anything else. Fuck Off!

      August 13, 2012 at 7:33 am |
    • HeavenSent

      0G, you need to use that bar of soap for your mouth. It doesn't matter what time zone you're in. Misery doesn't care.

      August 13, 2012 at 8:02 am |
    • WorkInProgress

      How silly and arrogant to think that a believer would discard his/her faith because of the death of an Evangelist.

      August 13, 2012 at 9:41 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Current believer cult members may not regain their sanity, but with one less snake oil salesman walking the earth, perhaps fewer people will get sucked into religion in the future, And HS, Fuck Off – there is nothing more vile than the christian hatred, inspired by The Babble, than what you spew on a regular basis.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>>" there is nothing more vile than the Christian hatred,"

      That is pretty nuts. That is like a Black Power militant saying that White Power hatred has no equal in its hatred.

      The rest of us, who are trapped in the middle between folks like you and HeavenSent just know that hatred is like a bullet and while yall are fighting between each other we see that hatred is just hatred. Who it comes from does not matter because hatred is hatred.

      August 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
  3. exlonghorn

    TomTom, the implication is that you're preventing harm to yourself. Of course that's ok, but is also subject to others evaluation of the certainty and severity of the harm you were about to receive. There are plenty of cases where a jury didn't see it the same way as the defendant. Now, as the harm becomes real things change. Someone threatening with a fist, versus charging with a bat, versus stabbing with a knife, represent different degrees of threat. But the attacker is the one who committed the tort first. MY POINT is that we should be passing laws about torts, but leave the more subjective morality plays out of the books.

    August 13, 2012 at 12:03 am |
  4. Bootyfunk

    "All h.omos.exuals should be castrated."
    - Rev. Billy Graham

    F this t.urd.

    August 13, 2012 at 12:00 am |
    • jim

      Not like they reproduce? Anyone could come along and choose a ho.mo.se.x.ual life style anyhow.

      August 13, 2012 at 1:32 am |
    • therealpeace2all


      Say... what ?!?!?! 😯


      August 13, 2012 at 1:39 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ jim ... just when was it that you CHOSE to be heterose'xu'al? What made you decide? Or was it saimply that you were always that way?

      August 13, 2012 at 3:24 am |
    • HeavenSent

      MIrosal, you chose. No one buys your baloney except if you hire one of the shrinks you post all the time.

      August 13, 2012 at 6:45 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Mirosal: I meant to tell you the other night not to respond to HS any more...the sooner the hypocritical old hag realizes she is being avoided because she is the most ignorant thing in existence, the sooner she'll disappear. Just be like the rest of us GOOD Atheists and avoid this mental health patient for your own sanity. Responding to her delusions only feeds them.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:01 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Praise God, He is good to me. The atheists are avoiding me. Oh, great Lord above, thank you for less headaches from the spiritually dead heads.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:31 am |
  5. exlonghorn

    Belief in God is an ever receding pocket of ignorance.

    August 12, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • billdeacons

      you are misquoting one of your standard bears, Degrasse

      August 12, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      The pocket has a hole in it.

      August 12, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I guess you atheists hated when Jesus named you fools.

      August 13, 2012 at 6:46 am |
    • sam stone

      HS is still dreaming about performing on Jesus for etenity

      August 13, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • exlonghorn

      Actually not a misquote. My adjustment to his comment was intentional.

      August 13, 2012 at 8:47 am |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things.

    August 12, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
    • Ting

      You can pray for Billy if you want. Maybe God will answer your prayer; maybe he won't. Maybe God will let Billy die just to test your faith, because that is the sick and twisted god he is. What do you think?

      August 12, 2012 at 9:52 pm |



      August 12, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • reverin seth gabrael

      Is ok I spoke to God and he says that , for the right sum, he will ensure that our friend Billy, stays with us a while longer. so reach deep into your pocket book and show your faith!.

      August 12, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      actions cause change; prayer wastes valuable time.

      August 12, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
    • truth

      john 9:31
      We know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is God-fearing and does His will, He hears him.

      August 13, 2012 at 1:29 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ truth ... please tell us, WHY do we need to fear this god of yours? According to you Xtians, your "god" is supposed to be all-loving. So why do we need to be "god-fearing" folk to a supposed all-loving deity? What is there to be afraid of?

      August 13, 2012 at 3:27 am |
    • just sayin

      In the original languages the "fear" of God includes reverent awe. Not the fear you are familiar with. God bless

      August 13, 2012 at 5:51 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Hey Mirosal, does playing the perpetual fool work for you? Fear of the Lord means to begin learning His wisdom.

      August 13, 2012 at 6:48 am |
    • Xdoc

      You Xtians, always changing meanings of words. You see, when gawd told Abraham to kill his son, he didn't really mean kill. When gawd tempted Job, hey didn't tempt, it was something else. When Jesus named the Canaan woman a dog, he didn't really mean dog. Boy, could I change what words mean too?

      August 15, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
  7. Woody

    Is it not the goal of believers to get to heaven and be with their gods? Why is Billy G. fighting the inevitable? Why does this man defy god's will by turning to science and modern medical procedures to delay death?. He should be looking forward to dying and meeting the Big Guy and his boy JC and getting his mansion on the streets paved with gold and all of the perks a man of his stature has coming to him. He should be home in his bed doing the Fred Sanford routine, "This is the big one, I'm coming lord". I just can't figure this whole thing out.

    August 12, 2012 at 8:56 pm |
    • billdeacons

      You're either facetious or ignorant. Neither is appealing

      August 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Wood chuck, the apostle Luke was a physician. Therefore, why should believers deny modern day physicians if one so close to our Lord was one?

      August 13, 2012 at 6:51 am |
    • Woody

      "the apostle Luke was a physician" – HeavenSent

      If Luke actually existed, everything written about him was hearsay, much like Jesus. If he actually existed, and was in fact a "physician", he was probably little more than a witch doctor who thought every malady was caused by demons or an angry god. You didn't answer my question. Why wouldn't Billy G. welcome death instead of trying to delay it. For him, in his mind, it would be a one way ticket to heaven, the ultimate goal of believers. Maybe there's just a little doubt creeping into his mind.

      August 13, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
  8. Autism is Funny

    The path to self realization is through anallingus.

    August 12, 2012 at 8:23 pm |
    • Mirosal

      Especially if you can do it to yourself? lol :p

      August 13, 2012 at 4:16 am |
  9. SDC

    This con-man should follow Mark 11, and try "praying" himself better; like Falwell, if you gave him a thorough enema, his coffin won't need to be any larger than a matchbox.

    August 12, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
  10. carrollfamil

    Billy Graham has never preached hate. He teaches to love our enemies.

    August 12, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      A lot of the "love your enemies" sort seem be able to love some people best when they are behind barbed wire.

      August 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
    • Answer

      @Tom Tom

      So true a statement you made. So true.

      "Don't let them touch me with their germs" - that at-ti-tu-de.

      August 12, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • sam

      I'm dying to know who these 'enemies' are.

      And, of course, funny how the christian definition of love kind of starts to look like other things...

      August 12, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Ditto Sam...I too am curious about who he's defining as their "enemies"

      August 12, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • billdeacons

      According to the Billy Graham Evangelical Association website the three enemies of mankind are

      1. The world and it's fallen status
      2. Our flesh and selfish nature

      August 12, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • billdeacons

      According to the Billy Graham Evangelical Association website the three enemies of mankind are

      1. The world and it's fallen status
      2. Our flesh and selfish nature
      3. Satan and his deception

      August 12, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist


      And your point is?

      August 12, 2012 at 11:11 pm |
    • billdeacons

      Someone wanted to know who Billy Graham thinks of as enemies

      August 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • TheVocalAtheist

      1. The world and it's fallen status
      2. Our flesh and selfish nature
      3. Satan and his deception

      #1 The world and it's fallen status...What does that mean?

      #2 Our flesh and selfish nature...Alright, flesh I know, selfish nature I'm not sure about.

      #3 Satan and his deception...I didn't know Satan was a he and I'm not sure what deception he's talking about.

      August 12, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
    • billdeacons

      @VA I know

      August 12, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Vocal, all angels are males.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:02 am |
  11. Curious

    Do 2% of us believe the remaining 98% are delusional? Hmm... does everyone suspect that everyone else is delusional? Someone should study this. But who do we trust?

    August 12, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Do those percentages correspond to anything in particular? It's certainly not god belief.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • therealpeace2all


      " Do 2% of us believe the remaining 98% are delusional? Hmm... does everyone suspect that everyone else is delusional? Someone should study this. But who do we trust? "

      Are you making a veiled 'argument ad populum/numerum' ???

      Or possibly I don't know where you are attempting to really go with this train of thought ?


      August 12, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      The statistic is suggestive. Theists and other believers often pull up 2% atheist 98% believer (in something atheists don't). Does anyone know where it comes from?

      August 12, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • exlonghorn


      You DO realize how completely absurd you sound, right? Nearly every case of genocide ever recorded was the many taking our their twisted and misguided beliefs on the few. Nice bunch to put yourself in, pal.

      August 12, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      HS only knows this because she looked under their robes and saw their penises.

      August 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
  12. Chadwatch, a public service

    Chad just posted "IMHO".

    What a laugh.

    August 12, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
  13. howash Dao

    Repeal O'bama care now. It is NOT helping this man of GOD !

    August 12, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • Observer

      Provocative in its way, but still not the real stuff. Try again.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
  14. howash Dao

    XTians should comtemplate Matthew 19:24 ( that also applies to fame as well as wealth )

    August 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • ttwp

      Why would a Christian listen to someone who is blind? Otherwise they will both fall into a pit.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • Young Autistic Man

      Majority of the Christians know that verse although the verse does not say anything about fame. Jesus Christ is a famous person. Despite Billy Grahams' wealth, I do not believed he is not a man of avarice. In a different verse, Jesus said that you cannot serve two masters. Usually, the rich man's master is money. Jesus used money to run a ministry and there are verses to prove it. Billy Graham used his wealth to run a ministry.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Billy Graham saw a loop hole in the system and ran with it. He's a con-artist preying on the weak minded! The man's ministry does not pay one cent in taxes.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      @Young Autistic

      I tend to agree with you. Graham is certainly no critical thinker, but I believe he believes he was answering the "highest calling" possible. He believes he is correct and he has always worked for "good" as defined by his worldview.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
    • Ting

      @TruthPrevails 🙂

      I'm with you. If an astrology business has to pay taxes then why shouldn't the church? They both feed people a load of crap.

      August 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      howash, it means Jesus is the most important focus over every thing.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:06 am |
  15. TruthPrevails :-)

    "American evangelical Christian evangelist, William Franklin “Billy” Graham, Jr., has a net worth of $25 million. The Southern Baptist evangelist,rose to celebrity status as his sermons were broadcast on radio and television.Graham was born on a dairy farm near Charlotte, North Carolina in 1918, he has conducted many evangelistic crusades since 1948 Graham founded the Billy Graham Evangelistic As.sociation with its headquarters in Minneapolis in 1950, it later moved to Charlotte, North Carolina." (http://www.therichest.org/celebnetworth/celeb/televangelists/billy-graham-net-worth/)

    And that proves what is wrong with people like Billy Graham (although this pretty much pertains to his kid, the idea is the same)...they don't care about their followers, they care about their followers wallets.

    August 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      my mistake it does pertain to his con-artist

      August 12, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
    • billdeacons

      How does your statement prove anything other than your dislike of the good Reverend?

      August 12, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
  16. gager

    Curious how they pray for this and that until they get sick and then they rely on science.

    August 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      This one also confuses me. Jesus clearly states that if you ask for ANYTHING in his name you will receive it. With all of this man's followers, surely someone is capable of saying the magic words properly.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • Answer

      This article clearly proves that with modern day medical advancements those religious tripes will turn their back on their faith and not accept their god's hand of death.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • Ruby

      The earth and everything in it s Gods. He created EVERYTHING. Even the minds and skills behind science and doctors. Christians are no different then non-Christians. We work, we eat, we raise families, we pay bills, we die. We believe in heaven, we believe in hell. We get sick we desire to get well through moderns medicine...and prayer. Do we still die? Yes, as do you. It's how God created us. That does not take away the desire to see our children and grandchildren grow up and our desire to live to a happy, long and fulfilled life. I will make it to heaven one day, and because of that I am not scared of death. But until that day comes, I will do everything i can to live here and spend time with my loved ones.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Ruby: Wow, slightly brainwashed and gullible! Replace god with Zeus or Thor and see if it makes any more sense.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • Observer

      TruthPrevails:-), isn't mixing mythologies like mixing metaphors? Actually, I want to defend Thor. He's cute and he has a hammer.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Christians like to say there are no atheists in foxh.oles. I guess there must not be any believers in oncology wards.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      What if they are all the same God or Gods?

      August 12, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • Observer

      That is a statement about the hygiene of foxes tallulah13.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @Ruby, So Jesus should have said, if you ask for anything in my name (except to be healed, grow back an amputated limb or to fly or for a million wishes ... see fine print below), then I'll do it.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • Answer

      And here we have Mark .. couldn't they all have been the same god that everyone was mixed up about?

      "Isn't that a possibility?" Well Mark.. you like it to be your god (the personality) that hovers to the forefront of ALL the other cases in the past. So why is that?

      –the desire is for yourself. You seek – search to define yours as the top dog. That is why you proposed it. To propose that they were all just one.. that currently -your god- has been the same god all along. To say – "hey now, god does exist.. because everyone in the past has related a tale of a god." "Everybody who has died believing can't be wrong if all those other god were THAT ONE."

      Hope for your god comes at last to try and defend your want and need of one. The other question you're too afraid of: "maybe there is no god afterall."

      August 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • carrollfamil

      It seems so many of you do not understand the simple fact that most Christians credit God for the advancement of medicine, it is God who gave us science, it is God who gave us intelligence.

      August 12, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      It isn't a "fact". If it were, you could prove it.

      August 12, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @carrollfamil, He just happened to wait until the last 150 years to advance it?

      August 12, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      "it is God who gave us science, it is God who gave us intelligence."

      Arguments that explain everything.....explain nothing

      August 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      If the Rev and his family seek other avenues of comfort, who are you to say they can't?

      August 13, 2012 at 7:10 am |
  17. lol

    Die, you crusty old buzzard, die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    August 12, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Death is too good for him (he agrees, you know).

      August 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Pathetic post.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:11 am |
  18. faye62

    No wonder you scoffers and mockers make such outrageous and hateful comments..You're speaking out of ignorance. Moses didn't ascend to Heaven; God took him and his body has never been found and ... in New Testament times, God's saints are His churches...Get some Biblical education so that you'll be prepared......(lol) Science does not out weigh God; Science is the study of God's cells, plants, air, water, blood, clouds, etc. (lol) God created it all and science just looks at it under microscopes. What limited intelligence man's has is only because God made man in His image. (lol) You guys are too funny...........Look into society; evil never prevails... Get on the winning side !!!! (lol)

    August 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • camty

      Get on what winning side? Billy is in the hospital so evil science and their doctors can heal him. Why is he not at home praying?

      August 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Answer

      Condemn science when you are losers to it. Covet science – for it can save your life.

      Religious s-c-u-m should be rejected when they plea for science to cure them.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • ttwp

      He who trusts in Jesus will never be put to shame.

      August 12, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
  19. Dan

    Its just not right to speak so ill of a man who never harmed anyone. Especially when he lays sick in a hospital bed at 93. Most of you speak of him like he's Al-Assad. And that is just not the truth. Wether you love or hate his message, resorting to hateful chatter is the same exact thing you accuse him of doing. Point the finger at yourselves first, not a man who spent his whole life trying to share a message that he truly believes can bring hope to the whole world, and never once raised a sword to do it. That takes guts. I believe we still have that right in this country, God bless you Billy Graham!

    August 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      The man has spent his life trying to induce other people to believe, as he believes, in something that is not supported by evidence of any kind. Evidence is important to some people.

      August 12, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • camty

      Billy preaches that it is okay to hate others if they do not worship as he does. He is no better than the Taliban in my book.

      August 12, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • Ruby

      We all agree to disagree right? Does that justify all the mean and ignorant comments towards him? You all are no better than schoolyard bullies.

      August 12, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • carrollfamil

      Very well said Dan!

      August 12, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • billdeacons

      camty. can you supply a link or reference where Rev Graham said to hate some one?

      I thought not.

      August 12, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tommie Tom, your argument failed before you typed it to post. He didn't convert you so, what's your problem? Besides being MISERABLE with every breath you take.

      August 13, 2012 at 7:15 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey Other, HS can't distinguish between "the other one" and "the Piper's Son."

      Aren't you shocked?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:53 am |
  20. Zwei Stein

    Some people just need to be told what is right and what is wrong.

    August 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Are there such things as right and wrong? Have we all agreed on a standard?

      August 12, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • Zwei Stein

      Tom Tom...if you need a standard, please send a healthy donation and I will provide it for you...on some nice Egyptian parchment.

      August 12, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      You know I only read Reformed Egyptian. I use a little rock I keep in a hat.

      August 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      So that's where the Thummim is! I've been looking for the match to my Urim for a few years now!

      August 12, 2012 at 6:40 pm |
    • exlonghorn


      First, I am not one of them, so keep your ideas of right and wrong to yourself.

      Second, to answer Tom Tom, yeah, I think there is at least ONE agreed-upon standard. Torts. If your actions cause harm to another, then that is wrong. it's pretty simple, but I can't think of a case where that doesn't work pretty well.

      August 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Torts? I've been reviewing the history of justifiable homicide. It's funny how we can all agree that what is usually wrong is right when the bastard had it coming.

      August 12, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      TomTom, the implication is that you're preventing harm to yourself. Of course that's ok, but is also subject to others evaluation of the certainty and severity of the harm you were about to receive. There are plenty of cases where a jury didn't see it the same way as the defendant. Now, as the harm becomes real things change. Someone threatening with a fist, versus charging with a bat, versus stabbing with a knife, represent different degrees of threat. But the attacker is the one who committed the tort first. MY POINT is that we should be passing laws about torts, but leave the more subjective morality plays out of the books.

      August 13, 2012 at 12:04 am |
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