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First on CNN: Atheist group targets presidential candidates' faith with billboards
A billboard criticizing Christianity is going up in Charlotte, North Carolina, host city of the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
August 13th, 2012
10:03 AM ET

First on CNN: Atheist group targets presidential candidates' faith with billboards

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) - A prominent atheist group is using next month's Democratic National Convention to take aim at the presidential candidates' religion, putting up billboards targeting Mormonism and Christianity in Charlotte, North Carolina.

“Our political system is rife with religion and it depends too much on religion and not enough on substance," said David Silverman, president of American Atheists, sponsor of the ads.

"Religion is silly and religion has components that are inherently divisive. … There is no place for any of that in the political system,” he said.

The billboards go up Monday in Charlotte and will stay up for a month at a cost of roughly $15,000. The Democratic convention runs September 3-6.

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The billboard targeting Christianity features an image of Jesus Christ on toast and this description of the faith: "Sadistic God; Useless Savior, 30,000+ Versions of ‘Truth,’ Promotes Hates, Calls it ‘Love.’ ”

The billboard targeting Mormonism lambastes - and, Mormons would say, distorts - specific Mormon doctrines: "God is a Space Alien, Baptizes Dead People, Big Money, Big Bigotry.”

The Mormon billboard features a man in white underwear, a reference to special Mormon garments.

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Both billboards feature the line "Atheism: Simply Reasonable."

American Atheists had wanted to put the anti-Mormon billboard in Tampa, Florida, to coincide with the Republican National Convention there later this month. Presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney is a Mormon. When no billboard company in the city would lease the group space for such a sign, Silverman said the organization decided to focus solely on the Democrats in Charlotte.

“Presidential conventions are for ideas, not ideology - platforms, not platitudes," Silverman said. "If a person believes stupid things, we have every right to question his or her judgment, and that directly impacts how the nonreligious voter votes.”

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Some religious leaders said the billboards showed a misunderstanding of how faith works.

"That billboard makes the most common high-school error when it comes to atheism," wrote the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and author, in an e-mail to CNN. "It's not arguing against the existence of God, but against religion. The American Atheists need to go back to school on this one."

Martin also questioned the language used on the billboard: "And as for 'promoting hate' they're doing a bang-up job themselves with that billboard."

Terryl Givens, a Mormon professor at the University of Richmond, called American Atheists "petty and vindictive."

“If this example of adolescent silliness is what atheists mean by being reasonable, then neither Mormons nor other Christians have much to worry about," he said of the billboards. "When atheists organize to serve the poor and needy of the world, they will be taken more seriously."

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It's not the first time the American Atheists group has released in-your-face billboards. Earlier this year, the group put up two billboards in heavily Muslim and Jewish enclaves in New Jersey and New York bearing messages in Arabic and Hebrew.

“You know it’s a myth … and you have a choice,” the billboards said. At the time, Silverman said the signs were intended to reach atheists in Muslim and Jewish areas who may feel isolated because they are surrounded by believers.

In addition to the billboards, Silverman said his group plans to stage protests at both conventions.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: 2012 Election • Atheism • Barack Obama • Christianity • Mitt Romney • Mormonism • Politics

soundoff (7,477 Responses)
  1. Jesus Christ Superstar

    So I guess my choice is I can be forced to listen to the Religion of Christianity, the Religion of Mormonism, or the religion of Atheism... All 3 groups can't get over the fact that I have my own brain and I can make my own decisions with that brain.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • fintastic

      Hey Jeebus, one more time for the hard of understanding... atheisim is NOT religion.... atheisim is a LACK OF BELIEF IN GOD.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • David

      Atheism isn't specifically lack of belief in God (although that is requisite.) It is specifically conscious non-subscription to theology: God-concept. In anycase, I don't think anything about being an Atheist requires fighting against established religion. Thats what these billboards do though. They are a reflection of those hypocrites who see their crusade against religion as an essecially religious cause of it's own. Just as crazy.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:59 am |
    • Ned

      hey fintastic, so you have a lack of belief, which is the same thing as "believing" that no deities exist.
      for example:

      1- (-1)=2
      1+ (+1)=2

      August 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Kafir

      Ned, let me fix that for you,

      Theism is "belief [god]"
      Atheism is "not [belief (god)]"
      You're trying to say atheism is "belief [not god]"

      They're different.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • JRG

      I'm just happy to see athiests stand up for themselves. For all those in this comment section saying they are tired of athiests ramming our beliefs at them... take a look around you. The entire country is god this and god that. We even had to make sure Rep. Paul Ryans religious view was on the table before we talked about his political beliefs. I support these billboards. These are no different than the ones I drove past in Nebraska a few years ago telling me that God would punish me for not standing up against abortion.

      August 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Dana

      You can rule out the first two if you have a brain. Saying that atheism is a religion is like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby.

      August 15, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  2. Thank you God, for my GOLD MEDAL

    Thank you, God, for my GOLD MEDAL. I'm sorry you gave it to me instead of the legs that Oscar Pistorius has prayed for over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    I guess my Faith and my power of prayer got you to listen to my wanting a piece of metal and your SO gracious granting of my prayer to get that lump of mineral.

    People will see my gold medal and take that as a TESTAMENT OF YOUR POWER. True, giving Oscar his legs back would have *REALLY* been a testament, but we know you don't go in for all those splashy "burning bush" type of thing. Oh, wait. You did, didn't you. Well, I'm sure you must have your reason for wanting me to have a shiny sparkly to wear around my neck instead of poor Oscar being able to walk without the use of springs. I mean, it *is* kinda funny, watching him bounce around like that. I'm sure YOU get a big laugh every time you see him bouncing. AH – THAT'S IT! OSCAR IS ENTERTAINMENT FOR GOD!!!

    I'm sorry I ever questioned, you, God. My medal is WAAAAAAAAAAY more important than some silly ole legs. And we've proven that PRAYER WORKS!

    At least for non-amputees.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • not again

      LOL!

      August 13, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • chris

      Tee Hee....that's so clever...your point?

      August 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • JecBeans

      Interesting perspective –

      So, since Oscar didn't get the legs he prayed for – G-d has not delivered? Oscar has gained considerable fame. He has shown the world what can be done with perseverance and hope. He has brought awareness to the masses and hope to those afflicted with similar conditions. He will go down in Olympic history due to his incredible feat. We won't remember who won the Gold, Silver and Bronze medals – but we will absolutely remember him.

      And you think that a prayer can only be answered for Oscar in the form of legs? Most of us with 2 legs could never come close to what this man has accomplished....

      August 24, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I wonder if he thinks that's a fair trade? Who knows what he could have accomplished had he kept his legs?

      However, that's not the point. The point is that people credit god for all sorts of things that humans have achieved. Things such as the regrowth of amputated limbs, things that right now truly only a god can do, remain undone. Why do you suppose that it?

      August 24, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
    • JecBeans

      We are all given gifts – what makes anyone think that Oscar's prayers weren't answered because his legs didn't grow back? His gift to us is his inspiration. Not his legs....

      G-d puts obstacles in our way to test our faith and our resolve. Most of us in today's world have a very short-term view of our lives that we must have everything we want and be like everyone else. If we don't get what we ask for – there can't be any G-d.

      Our bodies are just capsules. Christianity is a belief based on faith and love – not the physical body.

      August 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
  3. Dipsh!ts

    Jesus you people are dumb...CNN followers for ya I guess.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  4. Moocher

    Those wacky atheists! gotta admire their candor.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • josh

      just as much as the candor of religious nuts. religion keeps you stupid

      August 13, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Self_Thinker

      Wacky? Saying "hey people, use your common sense and think for yourselves before you believe some invisible man in the sky story" is wacky? As opposed to how God sends his only son (who is himself btw) to be beaten to death by humans so that he can absolve the world of sins, but that didn't really work since we all continue to sin anyway and that's okay by God as well. Dude, lookup the meaning of wacky in the dictionary and you'll find religion in it's definition.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  5. Mittens Wromney

    I'm still mad about God burning those people at Sodom and Gamorah. That was much worse for those people than the waterboarding George Bush did. Why did you torture those poor people, God? Oh, they didn't do as you said. Why did you waterboard those people, George? Oh, they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear. Hmm. For some reason your Christianity does not turn people into nice people. Your Christians have used torture for thousands of years and are intent on doing it for another thousand.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
  6. xirume

    I couldn’t agree more. We need leaders of sound mind who are capable of sound, practical judgment not influenced by the idiosyncrasies of their fairy tale of choice. Religion has no place in government or politics; in fact, it should be banned from any and all legislative and judicial affairs. We need solutions based on current reality, not ancient myths

    August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • religious dictates

      well put!

      August 13, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Self_Thinker

      Amen!!! Pun intended 🙂

      August 13, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • fintastic

      ditto

      August 13, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Self_Thinker
      "Amen!!! Pun intended"

      If you pronounce it "Ah, Men" or "Aw, Men", there's your true pun.

      August 13, 2012 at 11:38 am |
    • Jack Sevarg

      Thus saith Stalin and Mao. Massive atheists who killed millions upon millions.

      August 13, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How many times are you going to need to be told that these were megalomaniacs who destroyed religion not because they were atheists but because it helped them gain power?
      How dumb can you be?

      August 13, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    • Kafir

      Stalin and mao killed for political reasons. their putative atheism was just an innocent bystander.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Miriam

      This is really a reply to Kafir – . If your argument excuses Stalin and Mao then it also excuses and puts an end to those arguments about how religious differences resulted in lots of killings -"religions cause all the wars", etc. Well, one might say those kings and groups in power used religion to advance their greed or hegemony and religion was just an innocent bystander. One cannot have it both ways...

      August 13, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you denying that the Crusades were fought for religious reasons?

      August 13, 2012 at 11:38 pm |
    • Kafir

      Actually Miriam,

      Religion is EXPECTED to have some sort of influence on the outcome of political conflicts, because religions themselves have edicts and codes of conduct that people use to justify both war and opposition to war. And it stands as historical common knowledge that many wars WERE fought in the name of a specific religion, even if other factors played a role.

      Atheism has nothing to say about war or peace, and therefore can't be an agent for either notion.

      August 14, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  7. lefty

    I am an Atheist and I approve this message.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • frankb2910

      After 911 I am tired of being respectful of other peoples beliefs. Religion has a lot to do with people getting killed. When your dead your dead. You were dead for billions of years before you were born and you'll be dead after you die. Get over it.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • frankb2910

      After 911 I am tired of being respectful of other peoples beliefs. Religion has a lot to do with people getting killed. When your dead your dead. You were dead for billions of years before you were born and you'll be dead after you die. Get over it.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  8. Greg

    Wow...talk about lies.....Athiest should actually do some research into Christianity before they spew this hate filled venom......

    August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Huebert

      What statement on these billboards is a lie?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • sam stone

      Christians should practice some humility and stop preaching to those who do not accept their beliefs

      August 13, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • William Demuth

      Greg, I would bet my childrens lives that the average Atheist is better educated and more informed about Christianity that your ENTIRE combined family.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      Disagreeing with a belief is not hate.....

      August 13, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • josh

      that's just like an inbred born from the bibles thinking

      August 13, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Another insane person who hears voices...

      So george – denying the Inquisition and the Dark Ages ever existed, eh? Too far back for your ignorant mind to grasp? There are WAY more examples of Christian depravity right here and now in the present. Head stuck too far up your nether region to pay attention to it?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • not again

      religions are experts at lying, they've been lying since the dark ages.

      August 13, 2012 at 11:29 am |
    • Fish

      Greg – what lies are you talking about ? There's no hatred in the message – it's simply stating what everyone knows.

      Look at the number of times God has killed or hurt his children in the Bible. Look at the way he commanded the Israelites to kill other tribes.

      It may hurt your feelings to read the billboard, but it does not make it untrue. If you want to interpret the Bible in one way, that's fine. BUT you can't stop others from interpreting in their way. That's whay you have 30,000+ denominations. What makes you think your interpreation is the only way?

      August 14, 2012 at 6:54 am |
    • Dana

      Religious nuts should stop quoting old books as if they were fact. It makes them look silly.

      August 15, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Greg, you should actually figure out how to make nouns plural. Why are all you bible-thumpers completely incompetent and ignorant?

      August 15, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
  9. religious dictates

    .

    August 13, 2012 at 10:38 am |
  10. Jim

    I bet they won't put one up referring to Mohammed in this manner. Cowards.....

    August 13, 2012 at 10:37 am |
    • Bobby G. Bristoe

      I'm with you Jim, I dare them!

      August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • sam stone

      Which of the candidates is a Muslim, Jim?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Brooklyn Boy

      Duh...last time I checked, no muslims were running for the White House.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Huebert

      Challenge accepted

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/01/atheist-group-targets-muslims-jews-with-myth-billboards-in-arabic-and-hebrew/

      August 13, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Augie

      Read the whole article. They have addressed Islam and Judaism as well. Read the whole Bible while you're add it.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • keefer

      They already did Jim....read.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Did you read the article? Jews and muslims were given good advice on previous billboards, and as above, none of the presidential candidates is jewish or muslim.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • Jim

      Duh – all of you need to READ – I said "Mohammed" the billboards didnt use his name. Its about attacking religion anyway and not just candidates. And yoiu guys (n girls) are supposed to be enlightened. Wow???

      August 13, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • Dana

      What muslim is running for president?

      August 15, 2012 at 10:48 pm |
  11. alher

    Remember the Soviet Union ? They are athiest or were,they controlled the media, FOX NEWS, RUSH LIMBO,one group controlled the union, BIG MONEY!!

    August 13, 2012 at 10:37 am |
  12. Bobby G. Bristoe

    My My the atheist are getting more and more militant these days. I'd say the devil made them do it. Our Government is not acting the way God would like anyway, so why are they up in arms about it. If our goverment was acting acording to the way God would want them to run the country, we wouldn't be in the shape we're in now. I bet they never stopped to think about that. If only everyone would just stop and think that life is just the starting point for your eternity......

    August 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • No Truth, Just Claims

      Your god...if everyone stopped to consider YOUR god....

      Keep your god to yourself.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • josh

      bet you believe in Lephrachauns too and the Easter Bunny. you read a ficticious book

      August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • sam stone

      Bobby: Our government is not beholding to your god.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • Dan

      Bobby,

      A question for you: name me one period in American (or any country's, for that matter) history in which the government collectively (all 3 federal branches) acted in accordance with what you call "the way God would like it to run", and I could point out any number of a host of injustices and social ills. Even if you are referring to economic prosperity, we can look at a general rise in American wealth from the inception of our independence up until the 1860's and say "wow, standards of living really improved". Well, yes, they did. Unless, of course, you were a slave, or a Native American. Did God favor us then? You fall victim to what man has fallen victim to for millennia, the "the olden days were so much better than today, look at how our society is decaying". The truth is that things DO change; that life was not frozen in any kind of Eden and set for all eternity. Societies transform, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst, but if you're implying, say, that the government under President Bush was acting generally in a "godly" way, God must be awfully steamed up about Bush's TARP, the huge deficit he was running up with wars we can't afford, letting our debt to China increase, etc.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Augie

      Keep your faith off of me.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Bobby G. Bristoe

      Our goverment in general has not been acting in accordance with God's will for a long long time. And this has been true of many governments for as long as there have been governments. it has nothing to do with prosparity. all great nations will eventually fall. Evil things have been done in the name of God for thousands of years, but that does not excuse an unbelief in Him. He even said that evil would be done in His name, and that they would be condemmed for it. I am a piece loving God fearing Christian, that can see the evil in the world about us. I try to treat everyone the way I want to be treated, and live my life for God, I do not Judge anyone or condem anyone for their beliefs, That is God's job. If you don't like my God, that is your choice.

      August 13, 2012 at 11:12 am |
    • not again

      Certainly, the Atheists methods of spreading the word of false idols are far preferable to Christianities methods of burning heretics at the stake, boiling them in oil, splitting their bodies in two, or some other primitive form of killing the "other". Can't wait to see how the Vatican will torture the butler, after all, he allowed the truth to emerge and the Pope just won't have it, just won't allow the truth to be told.

      August 13, 2012 at 11:32 am |
    • Kafir

      Actually, the american government has been secular from day 1.

      Also, seeing as how you haven't provided evidence for your god, your points are moot.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
  13. thinksense1

    It's amazing how many Atheists practice hedonism. >.>

    August 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Huebert

      Yeah the first tenant of hedonism is "thow shalt put up silly billboards."

      August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • Augie

      Far less than the Catholic Church

      August 13, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • No Dice

      Got any numbers to support that statement?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • not again

      it's fun, try it

      August 13, 2012 at 11:33 am |
  14. josh

    religion is a farce created to control the masses.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
  15. SCIENCE IS THE REAL ANSWER

    So right.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  16. Bman

    It's about time. The kooks have been out of their cages for far too long.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  17. David

    Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't seem like Obama or Romney are bothering us with their religion. I'm not a Christian or a Mormon (and for the outsider, the difference seems academic.) Honestly, I don't mind if my next president is either. He could even be an Atheist, Hindu, Sikh; whatever, as long as that didn't cause him to make unwise or dangerous decisions as a leader.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Another insane person who hears voices...

      So you're fine with having someone who is INSANE as President?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • neal

      Not to David, but to the insane I hear voices: look be realistic and realize that insanity is an equal opportunity mental disease, you can be religious or irreligious. America has had A LOT of presidents who are practicing Christians. I know that you don't like their views and everything, but America is pretty much one of the most prosperous nations in the world. The presidents' so-called insanity is not overly harmful when PUT IN PERSPECTIVE. You want insanity? Go ahead and live in North Korea (whose leader is not even religious) or Saudi Arabia (no offense to the Arab Muslims, but for atheists your theocratic rules are too oppressive). Then come back to America and re-think how lucky you are.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Kafir

      Unless of course you're gay and want to marry.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • neal

      If you pick obama gay marriage has a chance. he;s ok w/ it. so what if he's a christian?

      August 13, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • Kafir

      That would make him a good civil servant, but a bad christian.

      August 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
  18. ECassious2

    It takes much more faith to be an Atheist than it does to be a Christian. Take the time to truly investigate.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • dionysusBeer

      How? Atheism is a lack of faith. How can a lack of faith take more faith than a religion based on faith? Is this 1984?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • William Demuth

      Faith is what a fool believes he sees

      Real Athiests don't place much creedence in the term.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:36 am |
    • PsiCop

      Atheism is no more a type of "faith" than baldness is a hair color.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • sam stone

      ECassiouis: Take time to consider your silly statment

      August 13, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Jimmy

      Atheism....yet another beleif system

      August 13, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Oh Ye of Little Faith

      ECassious2
      "It takes much more faith to be an Atheist than it does to be a Christian"

      Not true... but even if it were - isn't MORE faith better?!

      August 13, 2012 at 11:46 am |
  19. gdf

    Oh my, this is so hateful. Such hateful speech. I can't believe they would condone hate. This atheists are going around making fun of Mormons and Christians, basically saying what they believe is stupid and therefore they're stupid.

    But people won't really say this. For some reason a CEO of Chick-fil-A saying he supports the traditional family, without even providing any sort of negative attack (merely supportive of what he believes), is described as being "hateful". But an overtly negative attack ridiculing Mormons and Christians won't result in a firestorm of accusations about it being hateful.

    My question – why? This is a messed up system we have. My view, I don't really care what atheists groups say. I don't mind either what the Cik-fil-A CEO says either. I mind more-so the discrepancy, the accusations of hate when what is actually negative doesn't receive the same criticism.

    August 13, 2012 at 10:30 am |
    • gdf

      BTW, I made use of a little hyperbole playing off the responses many made to the comments made by the Chick-fil-A guy, that was my point

      August 13, 2012 at 10:31 am |
    • Mittens Wromney

      What?

      August 13, 2012 at 10:32 am |
    • Bman

      Because we hate how ignorant you are.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:35 am |
    • Self_Thinker

      GDF, if there's ever a double standard in this country, it's actually pro-religion, anti-atheism. Take a very simple example for instance: I'm an atheist, but I don't usually talk about my views openly at work for fear of offending someone and eventually losing my job because of it. But I hear people talk about religion all day in all sorts of ways. There are people who have the bible on their desks, leave flyers in the break room about religion and openly talk about the merits of "their God". Can you imagine if I had a copy of "The God Delusion" or some atheistic literature on my desk or tell a co-worker "I don't believe in God for the same reason I don't believe in Zues or the Easter bunny"?? I'd be fired right then. There is a double-standard and it's against atheists.
      http://commonsenseinlife.blogspot.com/

      August 13, 2012 at 10:42 am |
    • gdf

      - Self_Thinker -

      A sensible response. And I agree, I don't like that double standards either, or any sort of discrepancy like this. I appreciate freedoms and respect given from both sides, or all sides, respecting others first, regardless of views (we can't all agree about everything). My work is a little different though. The most person to openly talk religion was "let go", too radical. Others are criticized for talking it at all. Really the only acceptable conversation is sports. But people should be able to discuss what they want. There's a difference though, between discussing what you believing, and basically belittling and calling someone stupid or ignorant for believing something else. That's the part I don't like.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • not again

      well, religion is stupid if you have half a brain and think for yourself

      August 13, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    • saywhaaa

      No one was critisising the founder of chick-fil-a's rights to hold an opinion, that is a strawman.

      They are critisising his donations (out of chick=fil-a's profits) to hate groups which seek to bar gay marriage in the states, and have pushed for, among other things, the "death to gays" legislation in uganda and other third world countries.

      Even then, no one is saying that he does not have the RIGHT to donate money to such causes, but they are (rightfully) concerned that when they go buy a chicken sandwich from chick-fil-a, some of the money they just gave the company may be used by hate groups.

      And thus the people refuse to give their money to a buisness who uses it in ways they disagree with, and encourage others to do the same, which is a perfectly American way to excercise their god given rights to free speech and free association, and yet people will continue to try and portray it as some sort of infringement on the free speech rights of the leader of chick-fil-a. It is not and never was, but if those people stopped strawmanning the oppositions position they would realize their argument does not have a leg to stand on.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Kafir

      gdf,

      But worse than belittling someone's belief (which isn't all that bad if the case is that their belief is downright silly), is to give money to causes that push discrimination against a group, and that's what the CEO of chick-fil-a did, he donated millions to groups that are fighting to keep gay marriage illegal. Such policies do not exist coming from any atheist organizations that I can think of.

      August 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  20. awooff

    if prayer worked – you'd never have to pray again

    August 13, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    • ECassious2

      That might look good on a t-shirt or a bumper sticker, but your statement is inherently flawed. If you want to be an atheist, more power to you, but please be informed about the teachings you are so sure are bogus. Perhaps you are informed, but that statement would suggest otehrwise.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:34 am |
    • William Demuth

      ECassious2

      I am well informed, with thousands of books having been read (including 18 reads of various bibles). I have written, and publicly debated theist for over half a century.

      My conclusion is Christianity is a scam.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:39 am |
    • brandon

      That's a misunderstanding of the concept of prayer.

      I mean, the bottom line is that Christians aren't idiots. THere are a lot of VERY smart people who are christians. Christianity makes sense within the context of it's own narrative. I've been at this gig for many, many years and I have yet to find anything about it that doesn't make sense or contradicts itself wthin the context of it's own narrative.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Augie

      Every prayer is answered in 3 ways; Yes, No, Maybe Later. What/Who you pray to makes no difference.

      August 13, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Kafir

      Sounds like some of you need to read up on the STEP Project and see what effects prayer really has, when conducted scientifically. If you're honest. And have an open mind.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer

      August 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
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