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Spokesman: Unification Church founder hospitalized with pneumonia
Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church, is shown here on July 22. He is now in intensive care, a spokesman says.
August 16th, 2012
08:14 AM ET

Spokesman: Unification Church founder hospitalized with pneumonia

By K.J. Kwon, CNN

Seoul (CNN) -
The founder of the Unification Church is unconscious and undergoing treatment for pneumonia at a hospital in South Korea, a spokesman said Thursday.

Doctors put the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, 92, in intensive care Tuesday, where he is breathing through a respirator, the church spokesman said.

Moon felt ill suddenly and was hospitalized in Seoul in "grave condition." His doctor has given him only a 50% chance of survival, spokesman Ahn Ho-yeol said.

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  1. "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

    I do feel bad that everyone in the Unification Church still thinks that they who were born from the "Blessed Couples" have no Original Sin; as they were all deceived in the "Wine of Wrath" they all drank; no one ever told them that they who came into the Ark of salvation in "two's" were the "Unclean" animals: the "Clean" came in as groups of "seven", as those who overcome all 7 overcomings on the Path of the Just which the 7 churches are really about: the ladder of Jacob as seen in the Son of Man the angels of God ascended and descended on; but Rev. Moon and his drunken followers all ignored the information I was given from 1986 onward that the Angel of patmos came to my Grandmother Ruth Witt-Diamnt's house in the City of St. Francis to rectify. When i told jonathan Gullery and the others about this in 1988 in a 144 page letter he politely told me I could quote and use anything published by the HSA-UWC; and then threw my letter in the trash; given to me word for word by the Angel of John the Divine. What a disaster.

    As the years rolled by and my servant John helped me unseal the revelation of jesus Christ which is the book of Life of the lamb I was always struck by how easy it would have been to save Rev. Moon because he is specifically written of in two gospels: Matthew and Luke; and is; or was; the "Faithful and Wise Steward/ servant' mentioned by both of them. It is a
    dual prophecy; giving two deifferent endings: a happy one; and a very sad one. The sad one is what rev. Moon chose; the one at Matthew 24:48 about "that evil servant"; but Rev. Moon could have made it all the way except for the fact he and all the members in the unification Church tried to deny what I was told by my Angel when I was given the Word of God. yet Rev. Moon told everyone that the Word of God was where everything began and ended when dealing with anything in the Providence.

    How very strange. By the way; the "Son of Man" or "Son of Adam" refers to Seth; he who was made in the "image and likeness of Adam"; as Adam happened to represent the "Image of God" originally. That is what the serpent Moses raised in the wilderness actually represented; but the Egyptians called Seth annother name: "Set". But the Devil of Egypt is the God of Israel....ask Robert Graves..in spirit world...

    if anyone thinks i ammaking all this up i suggest they read what is written about Rev. Moon is the two gospel of Luke and matthew; it's all there; the beatings; the wine and the drunkeness; the marrying and givine in marriage; and of course the endless proplongations of the will that caused Rev. Moon to lose patience and finally marry in 1960 and then call himself "The Lamb of God".

    The propblem is that if he was the Lamb of God then he would have opened the Book of Life of the Lamb that is the Revelation of Jesus Christ: but he never did; I did; although I did it because I had the help of John of Patmos; the one who wrote it all down originally; and Elaine Pagels and all the rest of them don't have the faintest clue as to what they are talking about; of that I can faithfully assure everyone. I do.

    In truth the revelation of St. John the Divine is the Ark of the Testament; and the Revelation of Jesus Christ was the Book hidden in this Ark and carried to me through the 2,000 years that seperated the time when John first got it; and then; ( as it is written at chapter 10 of his own Revelation ) at the very last sentence of that chapter; when it is said to him by the angel of the Covenant Jonathan ( who John the Baptist was named after, by the way) that he "would have to prophesy again"; as to explain what his Revelation was all about. otherwise the revelation would have absolutely no purose; and it does; as all will soon shortly know.

    John the Baptist and Jesus the Son of man were to have been as close as Jonathan and David were; and as John the Beloved and Jesus of Nazareth really did become as close as: as the Baptism unto death for Jesus was actually the resurrection unto life for David: check Psalm 22; the figure on the Cross is David; and no one else. Those are his ribs he is talking about; of that you can beleive; as it is a matter of what I write as a scribe of God; it's called "Holy Writ'; and it's something "new" under the sun; it explains Scripture.

    Perhaps people will want to hear more; now that my messemger rev. Moon is about to die..as Hyo Jin Moon told me about months ago from spirit world; when I dutifully went and told Bob and Angelika Selle about Hyo Jin Moon coming to me with the news because they knew him when he was alive; their reaction? They ignored my message completely.. Typical....and yet they say that Hyo Jin Moon is "the Messiah in spirit world.." Gues that wasn't good enough for them to believe me....but why exactly would I have llied about something so serious? What would I have gained?

    I was to tell Rev. Moon that the Key of David is the Divine Principle; that one embodied in the Cross of Christ; as the one put upon the shoulder of Eliakim the Scribe; and upon the Lamb's shoulder as well; as he trudged up Golgotha: but Eric Holt and Kyle Toffey and Phillip Shankar and a list too long to even mention all heard what I had to say: and rejected me and my testimony completely.

    Did they REALLY think I was making it all up?

    I guess so; but my publisher Paul Cohen at Monkfish Book Publications told me that my book "...finishes the Bible..." And those are his words; not mine.

    Isn't it strange that Paul Cohen had more sense than everyone in the Unification Church and at HSA-UWC put together?? Angels are not sent out by God except when there is a real problem to be addressed and fixed; the very least the Unification Church could have done when I told them about this visitor ( who is still with me by the way ) was to send someone out to talk to me to see exactly what it was that I may have really known about the Providence concerning Rev. Moon reaching immortality in the flesh: but I suppose they all thought they knew more than my servant John; who happens to be " the greatest in the kingdom of heaven ".

    I am the least in the kingdom of heaven; but as my Father Jesus once said; and now again says:

    "Of men born of women there has not arisen a greater prophet than John the Baptist; yet I say unto you that he who is the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he..."

    According then to my Father Jesus I am a greater prophet than John the Baptist; who happens to currently be embodied in our dying Korean friend's body: one very ill Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

    Well; as my servant John once told me, when I asked hm what was the worst Hell there is, or could ever be: and he smiled and said: "The worst Hell is that of Regret"

    Well; at least they will all know why I my inner child is called "the Wrath of the Lamb"; I am actually the child that Mary of Bethany and Jesus of Nazareth never had...I was born on 4-18;

    True Parents Day.

    It may sound familiar; for it's the day mentioned in Luke and Matthew in which "the faithful and wise" Steward "looketh not for Him" .... and the Hour of my death in Christ on October 24, 2007 was one that Rev. Moon was never aware of: but curiously the Hopi Indians were; they were told all about me; and the Morning Star..that Blue Star; Comet Holmes.the Sign of the coming of the Pahana; that Child of Man; a Manchild; indeed

    Salvation Rose; the bride; the Lamb's Wife

    August 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

      "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

      I do feel bad that everyone in the Unification Church still thinks that they who were born from the "Blessed Couples" have no Original Sin; as they were all deceived in the "Wine of Wrath" they all drank; no one ever told them that they who came into the Ark of salvation in "two's" were the "Unclean" animals: the "Clean" came in as groups of "seven", as those who overcome all 7 overcomings on the Path of the Just which the 7 churches are really about: the ladder of Jacob as seen in the Son of Man the angels of God ascended and descended on.

      Rev. Moon and his drunken followers all ignored the information I was given from 1986 onward that the Angel of Patmos who to me came to me at my Grandmother Ruth Witt-Diamant's house in the City of St. Francis to rectify. When I told Jonathan Gullery and the others about this in 1988 in a 144 page letter he politely told me I could quote and use anything published by the HSA-UWC; and then probably threw my letter in the trash; given to me word for word by the Angel of John the Divine. What a disaster.

      As the years rolled by and my servant John helped me unseal the Revelation of Jesus Christ which is the book of Life of the Lamb I was always struck by how easy it would have been to save Rev. Moon; because he is specifically written of in two gospels: Matthew and Luke; and is; or was; the "Faithful and Wise Steward/ servant' mentioned by both of them.

      I discovered it is a dual prophecy; giving two deifferent endings: a happy one; and a very sad one.

      The sad one is what Rev. Moon apparently chose; the one at Matthew 24:48 about "that evil servant"; but Rev. Moon could have made it all to the crown of life: except for the fact he and all the members in the Unification Church tried to deny what I was told by my Angel when I was given the Word of God; yet Rev. Moon told everyone that the Word of God was where everything began and ended when dealing with anything in the Providence.

      How very strange. It seems they did not like the "cut of my jib" or something; but the Word of God is the truth; whether they "like" me or not...it mattereth not at all; this is not a popularity contest....

      By the way; the "Son of Man" or "Son of Adam" refers to Seth; he who was made in the "image and likeness of Adam"; as Adam happened to represent the "Image of God" originally. That is what the serpent Moses raised in the wilderness actually represented; but the Egyptians called Seth annother name: "Set". But the Devil of Egypt is the God of Israel....ask Robert Graves..in spirit world...

      if anyone thinks I am making all this up I suggest they read what is written about Rev. Moon is the two gospel of Luke and matthew; it's all there; the beatings; the wine and the drunkeness; the marrying and giving in marriage; and of course the endless proplongations of the will that caused Rev. Moon to lose patience and finally marry in 1960, and then call himself "The Lamb of God".

      The propblem is that if he was the Lamb of God then he would have opened the Book of Life of the Lamb that is the Revelation of Jesus Christ: but he never did; I did; although I did it because I had the help of John of Patmos; the one who wrote it all down originally; and Elaine Pagels and all the rest of them don't have the faintest clue as to what they are talking about; of that I can faithfully assure everyone. I do.

      In truth the Revelation of St. John the Divine is the Ark of the Testament; and the Revelation of Jesus Christ was the Book hidden in this Ark and carried to me through the 2,000 years that seperated the time when John first got it; and then; ( as it is written at chapter 10 of his own Revelation ) at the very last sentence of that chapter; when it is said to him by the angel of the Covenant Jonathan ( who John the Baptist was named after, by the way) that he "would have to prophesy again"; as to explain what his Revelation was all about: otherwise the Revelation would have absolutely sered no purpose at all; and it does; as all will soon shortly know.

      John the Baptist and Jesus the Son of man were to have been as close as Jonathan and David were; and as John the Beloved and Jesus of Nazareth really did become as close as: as the Baptism unto death for Jesus was actually the Resurrection unto life for David: check Psalm 22; the figure on the Cross is David; and no one else.

      Those are his ribs he is talking about; of that you can believe; as it is a matter of what I write as a scribe of God; it's called "Holy Writ'; and it's something "new" under the sun; it explains Scripture.

      Perhaps people will want to hear more; now that my messemger Rev. Moon is about to die..as Hyo Jin Moon told me about months ago from spirit world; when I dutifully went and told Bob and Angelika Selle about Hyo Jin Moon coming to me with the news because they knew him when he was alive; their reaction?

      They ignored my message completely.. Typical....and yet they say that Hyo Jin Moon is "the Messiah in spirit world.." Guess that wasn't good enough for them to believe me....but why exactly would I have llied about something so serious? What would I have gained? Who knows....now; it's too late...

      I was to tell Rev. Moon that the Key of David is the Divine Principle; that one embodied in the Cross of Christ; as the one put upon the shoulder of Eliakim the Scribe; and upon the Lamb's shoulder as well; as he trudged up Golgotha: but Eric Holt and Kyle Toffey and Phillip Shankar and a list too long to even mention all heard what I had to say: and rejected me and my testimony completely.

      Did they REALLY think I was making it all up?

      I guess so; but my publisher Paul Cohen at Monkfish Book Publications told me that my book "...finishes the Bible..." And those are his words; not mine.

      Isn't it strange that Paul Cohen had more sense than everyone in the Unification Church and at HSA-UWC put together?? Angels are not sent out by God except when there is a real problem to be addressed and fixed; the very least the Unification Church could have done when I told them about this visitor ( who is still with me by the way ) was to send someone out to talk to me to see exactly what it was that I may have really known about the Providence concerning Rev. Moon reaching immortality in the flesh: but I suppose they all thought they knew more than my servant John; who happens to be " the greatest in the kingdom of heaven ".

      I am the least in the kingdom of heaven; but as my Father Jesus once said; and now again says:

      "Of men born of women there has not arisen a greater prophet than John the Baptist;
      yet I say unto you that he who is the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he..."

      According then to my Father Jesus I am a greater prophet than John the Baptist; who happens to currently be embodied in our dying Korean friend's body: one very ill Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

      Well; as my servant John once told me, when I asked hm what was the worst Hell there is, or could ever be: and he smiled and said: "The worst Hell is that of Regret"

      Well; at least they will all know why I my inner child is called "the Wrath of the Lamb"; I am actually the child that Mary of Bethany and Jesus of Nazareth never had...I was born on 4-18;

      True Parents Day.

      It may sound familiar; for it's the day mentioned in Luke and Matthew in which "the faithful and wise" Steward "looketh not for Him" .... and the Hour of my death in Christ on October 24, 2007 was one that Rev. Moon was never aware of: but curiously the Hopi Indians were; they were told all about me; and the Morning Star..that Blue Star; Comet Holmes.the Sign of the coming of the Pahana; that Child of Man; a Manchild; indeed And the start of the regeneration that comes December 25th; 2012 to those who stand in the light of the Face of my Father Jesus

      Salvation Rose; the bride; the Lamb's Wife

      August 25, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
  2. "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

    Here are the words of Rev. Moon about My Generation;

    " In America people eat, drink, and disco - it's a grasshopper's life. How could such people say they understand God's suffering? Would God be comforted by them? "

    This is really Sun Myung Moon's conception of his "love' for My Generation: ZERO

    Our fight for racial equality; social justice and universal harmony?

    Just a lot of "grasshppers" at a "disco"; as we died in Vietnam; rode as Freedom Riders at the risk and sometimes cost of our lives; were killed, beaten, imprisoned, and then abandoned by Rev. Moon: as he made billions taking everything out of the sea in illegal trawling nets: while no one was watching...

    He thought we were all a bunch of locusts; but now he shall indeed find out the shoe is on the other foot: the foot of My Father Jesus

    "Vengeance is Mine" saith the LORD; "I will REPAY"

    Salvation Rose
    The Last Child of the Resurrection; the Wrath of the Lamb

    August 18, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
  3. Atheists have blessed little children and many other living things

    We all change things, Christians and Atheists, we are all uniquely made. Many times Atheists change things better then Christians do. 

    August 18, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • truth be told

      Atheists have murdered more children in the last 100 years than were killed in all previous centuries.

      August 18, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Repeating lies won't make them into truths, you moron.

      August 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • truth be told

      Historical fact Tom you know "facts" that you losers are always on about.

      August 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Nope.

      More manufactured nonsense from a dolt who can't even master the English language.

      You're a simple-minded fvcktard.

      August 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yup. Crickets chirping.

      Unfortunately, the crickets are brighter than TuBeTop.

      Why are christards defending Moon?

      August 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    • truth be told

      Chairman Mao atheist responsible for over 800 million dead Chinese, men, women, children.

      August 18, 2012 at 9:09 pm |
    • truth be told

      Moon is not a Christian and never has been.

      August 18, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So? What of it?

      Are you really going to as sert that atheism was the objective? That is was the primary motivation for these murders, you dimwitted booger-eater?

      August 18, 2012 at 9:11 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Moon isn't a Christian."

      Gee, no sh!t, Sherlock. Never said he was.

      August 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Atheism is communism you dimwitted booger-eater!

      August 18, 2012 at 9:16 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, it isn't, sh!t-for-brains, as you'd know if you ever got past sopho more year in high school.

      You're a dolt.

      August 18, 2012 at 10:50 pm |
  4. doctore0

    Religious people say they believe in afterlife with the master of the universe... try to avoid death more than anyone else.
    Religion is nothing more than a pimped up grave

    August 17, 2012 at 6:41 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Zero, that's just another lie you atheists spread. Everyone wants to have as much time with their loved ones and friends as possible before they go back to God who created all.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
      • doctore0

        Ohh this dude is nearly 100 years old.. hahahaha
        Religion is stupid

        August 17, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Zero, haven't you heard? Ego erases God out.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Isn't that ironic, doctore0?

      August 18, 2012 at 6:03 am |
  5. Flamespeak

    It still shocks me at how deadly pneumonia is in this day and age. You figure scientists and the medical community would have a sure fire way to combat the problem at this point in time.

    August 17, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • jimmer

      I don't understand why christards even get pneumonia.

      Can't they just pray to stay healthy?

      August 17, 2012 at 11:21 am |
    • truth be told

      Moon isn't a Christian.

      August 18, 2012 at 7:04 am |
  6. Jack

    Hello folks. Everyone is cordially invited to visit... thestarofkaduri.com

    August 16, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
  7. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    August 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example; Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine–year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      August 16, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • kindless

      oh my goodness this child is ill! some must have put some battery acid in her soda pop or something for her to keep writing all this nonsense. my oh my. well of course she dead wrong. atheism is really fine and dandy for everyone – it will make a person responsible for themselves instead of spending all their time thinking about make-believe stuff and hiding their misdeeds in those kooky religions. and prayer is well, you know, if you need rest, get some sleep or meditate or something. and if you need to collect your thoughts, then get a good cup of tea and collect you damn thoughts. my goodness.

      August 16, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Why don't you atheists admit that the RCC is just as carnal as you?

      August 17, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  8. Rev Moon

    I pray now with mighty faith!!
    But first, I take these antibiotic capsule.
    Must cover all base lol!

    August 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
  9. AverageJoe76

    Wonder if our grandchildren's grandchildren will still be arguing about this. I think once an agnostic thinking takes hold of the human race, we'll evolve faster. Brainpower will be freed up.

    August 16, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  10. Doc Vestibule

    Alas, here cometh the end of the Second Coming.
    Or may the 133rd coming? It's hard keep track since Sun Myung Moon, Emanuel Swedenborg, Baha u llah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, David Koresh, Hailie Selassie, John Thom, Arnold Potter, William Davies, George roux, Ernest Norman, Krishna Venta, Ahn Sahng-Hong, Jim Jones, Mashall Applewhite, Hulon Mitchell, Wayne Bent, Ariffin Mohammed, Mitsuo Matayoshi, Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, Inri Cristo, Thomas Provenzano, David Icke, Shoko Asahara, Hogan Fukinaga, Marina Tsvigun and Sergei Troop have all made the same claim...

    August 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Colin

      You can add St. Paul and Harold Camping to that list.

      August 16, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

      Mark 13:32

      Amen.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • AGuest9

      "Blah, blah, blah, nonsense, ad hominem."

      Ridiculous fictional citation, Chapter: Verse.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:07 am |
    • "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

      "Salvation Rose" aka 'Chris Diamant'

      I do feel bad that everyone in the Unification Church still thinks that they who were born from the "Blessed Couples" have no Original Sin; as they were all deceived in the "Wine of Wrath" they all drank; no one ever told them that they who came into the Ark of salvation in "two's" were the "Unclean" animals: the "Clean" came in as groups of "seven", as those who overcome all 7 overcomings on the Path of the Just which the 7 churches are really about: the ladder of Jacob as seen in the Son of Man the angels of God ascended and descended on.

      Rev. Moon and his drunken followers all ignored the information I was given from 1986 onward that the Angel of Patmos who to me came to me at my Grandmother Ruth Witt-Diamant's house in the City of St. Francis to rectify. When I told Jonathan Gullery and the others about this in 1988 in a 144 page letter he politely told me I could quote and use anything published by the HSA-UWC; and then probably threw my letter in the trash; given to me word for word by the Angel of John the Divine. What a disaster.

      As the years rolled by and my servant John helped me unseal the Revelation of Jesus Christ which is the book of Life of the Lamb I was always struck by how easy it would have been to save Rev. Moon; because he is specifically written of in two gospels: Matthew and Luke; and is; or was; the "Faithful and Wise Steward/ servant' mentioned by both of them.

      I discovered it is a dual prophecy; giving two deifferent endings: a happy one; and a very sad one.

      The sad one is what Rev. Moon apparently chose; the one at Matthew 24:48 about "that evil servant"; but Rev. Moon could have made it all to the crown of life: except for the fact he and all the members in the Unification Church tried to deny what I was told by my Angel when I was given the Word of God; yet Rev. Moon told everyone that the Word of God was where everything began and ended when dealing with anything in the Providence.

      How very strange. It seems they did not like the "cut of my jib" or something; but the Word of God is the truth; whether they "like" me or not...it mattereth not at all; this is not a popularity contest....

      By the way; the "Son of Man" or "Son of Adam" refers to Seth; he who was made in the "image and likeness of Adam"; as Adam happened to represent the "Image of God" originally. That is what the serpent Moses raised in the wilderness actually represented; but the Egyptians called Seth annother name: "Set". But the Devil of Egypt is the God of Israel....ask Robert Graves..in spirit world...

      if anyone thinks I am making all this up I suggest they read what is written about Rev. Moon is the two gospel of Luke and matthew; it's all there; the beatings; the wine and the drunkeness; the marrying and giving in marriage; and of course the endless proplongations of the will that caused Rev. Moon to lose patience and finally marry in 1960, and then call himself "The Lamb of God".

      The propblem is that if he was the Lamb of God then he would have opened the Book of Life of the Lamb that is the Revelation of Jesus Christ: but he never did; I did; although I did it because I had the help of John of Patmos; the one who wrote it all down originally; and Elaine Pagels and all the rest of them don't have the faintest clue as to what they are talking about; of that I can faithfully assure everyone. I do.

      In truth the Revelation of St. John the Divine is the Ark of the Testament; and the Revelation of Jesus Christ was the Book hidden in this Ark and carried to me through the 2,000 years that seperated the time when John first got it; and then; ( as it is written at chapter 10 of his own Revelation ) at the very last sentence of that chapter; when it is said to him by the angel of the Covenant Jonathan ( who John the Baptist was named after, by the way) that he "would have to prophesy again"; as to explain what his Revelation was all about: otherwise the Revelation would have absolutely sered no purpose at all; and it does; as all will soon shortly know.

      John the Baptist and Jesus the Son of man were to have been as close as Jonathan and David were; and as John the Beloved and Jesus of Nazareth really did become as close as: as the Baptism unto death for Jesus was actually the Resurrection unto life for David: check Psalm 22; the figure on the Cross is David; and no one else.

      Those are his ribs he is talking about; of that you can believe; as it is a matter of what I write as a scribe of God; it's called "Holy Writ'; and it's something "new" under the sun; it explains Scripture.

      Perhaps people will want to hear more; now that my messemger Rev. Moon is about to die..as Hyo Jin Moon told me about months ago from spirit world; when I dutifully went and told Bob and Angelika Selle about Hyo Jin Moon coming to me with the news because they knew him when he was alive; their reaction?

      They ignored my message completely.. Typical....and yet they say that Hyo Jin Moon is "the Messiah in spirit world.." Guess that wasn't good enough for them to believe me....but why exactly would I have llied about something so serious? What would I have gained? Who knows....now; it's too late...

      I was to tell Rev. Moon that the Key of David is the Divine Principle; that one embodied in the Cross of Christ; as the one put upon the shoulder of Eliakim the Scribe; and upon the Lamb's shoulder as well; as he trudged up Golgotha: but Eric Holt and Kyle Toffey and Phillip Shankar and a list too long to even mention all heard what I had to say: and rejected me and my testimony completely.

      Did they REALLY think I was making it all up?

      I guess so; but my publisher Paul Cohen at Monkfish Book Publications told me that my book "...finishes the Bible..." And those are his words; not mine.

      Isn't it strange that Paul Cohen had more sense than everyone in the Unification Church and at HSA-UWC put together?? Angels are not sent out by God except when there is a real problem to be addressed and fixed; the very least the Unification Church could have done when I told them about this visitor ( who is still with me by the way ) was to send someone out to talk to me to see exactly what it was that I may have really known about the Providence concerning Rev. Moon reaching immortality in the flesh: but I suppose they all thought they knew more than my servant John; who happens to be " the greatest in the kingdom of heaven ".

      I am the least in the kingdom of heaven; but as my Father Jesus once said; and now again says:

      "Of men born of women there has not arisen a greater prophet than John the Baptist;
      yet I say unto you that he who is the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he..."

      According then to my Father Jesus I am a greater prophet than John the Baptist; who happens to currently be embodied in our dying Korean friend's body: one very ill Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

      Well; as my servant John once told me, when I asked hm what was the worst Hell there is, or could ever be: and he smiled and said: "The worst Hell is that of Regret"

      Well; at least they will all know why I my inner child is called "the Wrath of the Lamb"; I am actually the child that Mary of Bethany and Jesus of Nazareth never had...I was born on 4-18;

      True Parents Day.

      It may sound familiar; for it's the day mentioned in Luke and Matthew in which "the faithful and wise" Steward "looketh not for Him" .... and the Hour of my death in Christ on October 24, 2007 was one that Rev. Moon was never aware of: but curiously the Hopi Indians were; they were told all about me; and the Morning Star..that Blue Star; Comet Holmes.the Sign of the coming of the Pahana; that Child of Man; a Manchild; indeed And the start of the regeneration that comes December 25th; 2012 to those who stand in the light of the Face of my Father Jesus

      Salvation Rose; the bride; the Lamb's Wife

      I am the 144th....but the difference is this: I am still alive at the present moment...unicorn144.wordpress.com come and see....

      August 25, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  11. Mr Robotron

    If heaven is the ultimate utopian paradise, why do religious people cling so fervently to life? Is there even a tiny bit of logic in religion? No.

    August 16, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • sam stone

      Yeah. You would think churches would have tall (s)platforms from which true believes would take their steps into heaven.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • truth be told

      Man is made in the image of God. God is eternal life and gave life to man. All men follow God in honoring life.

      August 16, 2012 at 7:05 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Because we will miss the people we leave behind.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • AGuest9

      The fear of death is from a lifetime of worry over "Will the big scary guy in the sky who supposedly loves me see that candy bar I ate during lent when I was 7, and force me into an eternity of torment for it?"

      August 18, 2012 at 6:10 am |
    • AGuest9

      Come off it, your god was created in the image of man.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:11 am |
  12. Jake-413451

    Keep the faithful away from him. Since according to their beliefs he owuld be headed to paradise they might just encourage it.
    Because that is what they really believe right, that following death they go to paradise.
    It is why they don't, as a whole, fight tooth and nail to live just a bit longer.
    That is what they do, since that is what they in their hearts really believe. Right?

    August 16, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  13. LinCA

    Another religious leader who was taken to a hospital instead of a church. What does that mean? Does he not trust in prayer?

    Hypocrite.

    August 16, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    • Topher

      C'mon, now. Let's be serious. It doesn't make anyone a hypocrit to go to a hospital. Even the Bible says we're all gonna die. The wages of sin is death and we've all sinned. When God says it is your time, it is your time.

      August 16, 2012 at 11:13 am |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      When God says it is your time, it is your time.

      .....

      Did you hear God's voice and did he tell you this? Or did your fellow man tell you this? What is this based upon?

      August 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • ME II

      @Topher,
      "When God says it is your time, it is your time."
      I think that is @LinCA's point. If it's your God-determined time, then why go to the hospital; if not then why do you need a hospital.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • sam stone

      "The wages of sin is death"

      Yeah, but after taxes are taken out, you are just left with a sort of tired feeling.

      "and we've all sinned"

      According to edited, translated iron age hearsay

      August 16, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • jimmer

      "The wages of sin is death and we've all sinned"

      So if someone manages to go through life without ever actually sinning, they can live forever?

      August 17, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • HeavenSent

      You atheists haven't a clue that the apostle Luke was a physician. God created ALL for his pleasure.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Where was he licensed? What was his specialty? How long had he practiced? What was his last name? What town did he originate? No, we haven't the slightest scrap of proof of the existence of anyone in your bible, except Caesar, Pontius Pilatus and "the Pharaoh". Anyone can write historical fiction.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:16 am |
  14. Prayer changes water into wine

    "Born in Korea in 1920, Moon claims that in 1936, when he was 16, Jesus Christ appeared to him on Easter morning on a mountainside in Northwestern Korea and told him that God had chosen him for the mission of establishing the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, a mission that Christ had only begun. Christ supposedly told Moon that he would be "the completer of man's salvation by being the Second Coming of Christ" (Sun Myung Moon and The Unification Church, James Bjornstad, p. 9)."
    .
    Oriental Joseph Smith lol

    August 16, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Topher

      Thanks for the info. I had no idea what the Unification Church was. Definitely heretics.

      August 16, 2012 at 11:05 am |
    • Jake-413451

      Oh the irony of that name making that comment.
      Yes, because believe god knocked up Mary, but without de-flowering her, producing a child, who later walked on water, turned water into wine, could control weather, restored vision, fixed a lopped off ear, oh and raised the dead, fed 5,000 people with a few bits of bread and a couple fish, was crucified, then raised from the dead (although nobody recognized him until he told them who he was), then ascended into heaven. And nobody wrote down word one about it until he was dead and gone for around 100 years is completely believable in comparison.

      August 16, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Topher

      Jake-413451

      Are you saying God had se.x with Mary?

      "And nobody wrote down word one about it until he was dead and gone for around 100 years is completely believable in comparison."

      You are mis.informed. The earliest books were written within 10-20 years of Christ's death and Revelation was written 94-96 AD. Even that isn't 100 years later.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      "The earliest books were written within 10-20 years of Christ's death"
      .
      Lets say this is true.....really and it is supposed to be a credible account???? lol

      August 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Topher

      Yes, it is credible. The books were written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesses ... meaning if an author wrote something untrue, the other eyewitnesses would have called them on it. And let's not forget that these writers were inspired by God, so when someone says something miraculous happened, you can believe it.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No, I can't. You can believe it if you choose, Topher, but that's all it is: a belief. Not a fact, not proven.

      You have yet to come up with even the hint of credible evidence that there is a god.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "The other eyewitnesses would have called them on it."

      Says you. You don't know that they "would have". You don't know that they didn't. You don't know whether other eyewitnesses wrote accounts that were contradictory and those writings were lost or destroyed.

      If you were being tried in a court of law, would you be satisfied with hearsay testimony from 2000 years ago?

      August 16, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Huh?

      "The books were written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesses ... meaning if an author wrote something untrue, the other eyewitnesses would have called them on it. And let's not forget that these writers were inspired by God"

      Everyone knows the story about Jesus and the woman about to be stoned by the mob. This account is only found in John 7:53-8:12. The mob asked Jesus whether they should stone the woman (the punishment required by the Old Testament) or show her mercy. Jesus doesn’t fall for this trap. Jesus allegedly states, let the one who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her. The crowd dissipates out of shame. That story was not originally in the Gospel of John or in any of the Gospels. It was added by later scribes. The story is not found in the oldest and best manuscripts of the Gospel of John. Nor does its writing style comport with the rest of John. Most serious textual critics state that this story should not be considered part of the Bible.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      Topher

      Yes, it is credible. The books were written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesses ... meaning if an author wrote something untrue, the other eyewitnesses would have called them on it. And let's not forget that these writers were inspired by God, so when someone says something miraculous happened, you can believe it.

      Um......purely assumption and wishful thinking....aka faith in accounts written 10 to 20 years after. All critical thinking is thrown out the window my friend.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Smithsonian

      The stories found in the Book of Genesis, Chapter 1-12, such as the flood story, the record is quite different: the time period under consideration is much more ancient. The factual bases of the stories are hidden from our view archaeologically. The stories remain a part of folk traditions and were included in the Bible to illustrate and explain theological ideas such as: Where did humans come from? If humans were created by God (who is perfect and good), how did evil among them come to be? If we are all related as children of God, why do we speak different languages? It must be remembered that the Bible is primarily a book of religion, a guide to faith. it was not a book of history, poetry, economics, or science. It contains all sorts of literary genre, which are used to teach about the relationship between God and mankind. Even biblical history is edited history: events were chosen to illustrate the central theme of the Bible. The Biblical writers did not pretend they were giving a complete history; instead they constantly refer us to other sources for full historical details, sources such as "The Annals of the Kings of Judah" (or Israel).

      It is therefore not possible to try to "prove" the Bible by means of checking its historical or scientific accuracy. The only "proof" to which it can be subjected is this: Does it correctly portray the God-human relationship? In the best analysis, the Bible is a religious book, not an historical document.

      August 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      The NT is about as credible as the Book of Mormon. lol Jesus Topher...attempt some critical thinking. lol

      August 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • Topher

      For those of you who don't like the timing of the writings, here's a look at the time gap between the original and first surviving copies of some very important books that give us information on important historical figures ...
      Bible: 25 years
      Homer: 500
      Demosthenes: 1400
      Herodotus: 1400
      Plato: 1200
      Tacitus: 1000
      Caesar: 1000
      Pliny: 750
      Now, here's a look at how many of those manuscript copies we have ....
      New Testament: 5686
      Homer: 643
      Demosthenes: 200
      Herodotus: 8
      Plato:7
      Tacitus: 20
      Caesar:10
      Pliny: 7
      Yet we put more faith we know what happened in the Gallic Wars than what happened in the NT.

      August 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      Topher, if you are to compare I think you need to use "historical Gods/prophets". Your list is apples to oranges.

      August 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • Topher

      How is it apples to oranges?

      August 16, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      Topher, your Jesus claims to have been the son of a God and you in fact believe Jesus and God to be one. If you are to use comparables, you need to stick with the Gods/Prophets in history.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • Topher

      The point of the list is to show we all are OK with the historical things we read about in other books (like Caesar, even though the earliest we have is 1000 years later) but most aren't content with the Bible when we have something only 25 years later. Now I agree that doesn't prove Jesus was God, but you've got a double standard going when you say we can't trust the authors of the Bible but you can for all these others.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      That's the point, Topher. There are many sources of historical events like the Gallic war, not just one. You have ONLY one–the bible. And its accuracy cannot be verified as concerns the divinity of Jesus or the existence of a god.

      That's fine: as Smithsonian so eloquently pointed out, the bible isn't to be viewed that way. That you insist on doing so and on calling it "fact" says something about your faith. Why isn't it enough for you to simply acknowledge that you have faith in things not seen and let it go at that? Why do you continue to try to prove that a certain number of angels can dance on the head of a pin?

      It isn't winning you any converts; it isn't effective in convincing anyone of the value of your faith at all.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And as far as I know, none of the accounts of Caesar involve his raising people from the dead, rising after three days in a grave, walking on water, or any other such actions.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Colin

      Tropher, I agree wholeheartedly that that two gaps are very relevant to determining the likely accuracy of a written text – (i) the gap between when the events occured and when the writing mas made – I can record with accuracy what happened yesterday, but not this day a year ago, for example; and (ii) the gap between when the first writing was made an the last surviving copy of that writing we have – copying error and other factors mean that the larger the time gap, the less accurate it is likely to be.

      In this context, the earliest, largely complete copy of the New Testament we have is the Codex Sainaticus, which is dated to the early Forth Century. It, along with the Codex Vaticanus, generally dated to about 50 years later, are the two oldest complete copies of the New Testament known to exist. Both are written on animal skin and in uncial style (all capital letters). This helped to date them.

      The events in the life of Christ that they purport to record all occurred between about 4 BC and 30 AD. Based on content, it appears that the 4 Gospels (the only books in the Bible that record anything substantive about Jesus’ life) were written between about 70 AD (Mark) to 90AD (John). Matthew and Luke were largely based on Mark and were written about 80AD. They were likely written by second generation Christians about events that occurred during the lives of their grandparents.

      So that leaves two pretty big gaps. The first being the time between when the alleged events occurred (4BC-30AD) and when they were first reduced to writing (70AD) a period of about 40 years and a second gap between when the events were first reduced to writing and the oldest copies of those writings (about 250 years).

      For anybody to claim that the gospels accurately record the life of Jesus, they have to assume that no information leaked into or out of the story during these intervening periods. This would be an incredible claim to make today, but in an age when mythology was rife and factual accuracy was not exactly valued by committed religious zealots, which the original authors clearly were, the chance that the gospels we have today accurately reflect the life of Jesus is virtually zero.

      Then one has to consider the content of the gospels. They involve claims of ghosts, demons and devils, of people rising from the dead, not just Jesus, but graveyards full of people, of miraculous healings and of people foretelling the future, of betrayal and intrigue and a great injustice against a worth hero. In short, they are entirely consistent with the prevailing mythology-literature of the times.

      Viewed objectively, the Christian “leap of faith” in believing in Jesus as the son of a god soon becomes a feat of mental gymnastics worthy of the cow that jumped over the moon.

      The number of subsequent copies made is irrelevant to this analysis for the simple reason that copying a lie 1,00,000,000 times won't make it true.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
    • ME II

      @Topher,
      "Yet we put more faith we know what happened in the Gallic Wars than what happened in the NT."

      I'm not familiar with the docu.ments supporting the events of the Gallic Wars, but I suspect a big difference is that those docu.ments don't make absurd claims like the Bible does.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • ME II

      @Topher,
      It may also, have to do with the gap between the actual event and first estimated written record, not the gap between the first recording and the oldest surviving copy.
      I other words, if John the Mediocre's activities were recorded as they happened but Jane the Magnificent's activities didn't get written down for 5 years after the fact, then even with copy errors and such, John's docu.mentation may be more reliable even if the earliest known docu.ment is more recent that Jane's earliest. Just a thought.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • kindless

      oh my topher said: "Topher Yes, it is credible. The books were written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesses ... meaning if an author wrote something untrue, the other eyewitnesses would have called them on it. And let's not forget that these writers were inspired by God, so when someone says something miraculous happened, you can believe it."

      Oh dear, well it's not your fault. These lies have been flying around a lot longer than most people think. When you have people who are lawyers and politicians and lobbyists and judges all at the same time, you'd be amazed at what they can come up with in terms of witnessing things. And when they have that much control over making other people believe things, they can makes ideas fly fast – shoot – 25 years is nothing – even way back then. And as far as inspired by god – my goodness, child. they were smoking weed and eating rotten food, dear. Their eyesight probably went bad by the time you snap your fingers. my goodness. but whoever wrote that revelation – my oh my – they were on something really bad – they must have crashed their camel in a field of burning poppies or something like that. my goodness. they won't fool mama kindless. i'm too old for that.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      Topher, you are missing the point. They are not comparable. You are comparing non superst i tious/magical accounts to superst it ious/magical accounts. Simply put your Jesus story is not credible. However with faith a person's perception it is credible. At the end of the day all you have is your assumption and wishful thinking and nothing more. More power to you...enjoy your life.

      There is a reason why ALL gods in time have required faith.

      August 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      When it comes to magical religious prophets and "events" ...witnesses are hardly credible.

      August 16, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Topher

      "There is a reason why ALL gods in time have required faith."

      I agree with that ... it's called sin. Let's face it, God has given us the ultimate proof to believe. He came to earth, walked among us and performed miracles. He even defeated death by rising from the grave. Yet even people who saw these things rejected it because they'd rather NOT believe so they can keep sinning. Same thing happens today. There's evidence all around us, yet we're too proud to recognize it as such.

      August 16, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Topher

      "There is a reason why ALL gods in time have required faith."

      I agree with that ... it's called sin.

      >That has nothing to do with what I posted.

      Let's face it, God has given us the ultimate proof to believe. He came to earth, walked among us and performed miracles. He even defeated death by rising from the grave. Yet even people who saw these things rejected it because they'd rather NOT believe so they can keep sinning. Same thing happens today. There's evidence all around us, yet we're too proud to recognize it as such.

      >Purely subjective and as sumption on your part. And again at the end of the day...there is no evidence only your perspective and faith. There is no credibility or evidence when it comes to the Gods.....just faith/wishful thinking.

      August 16, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Prayer changes water into wine

      lol

      August 16, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Topher,
      "God has given us the ultimate proof to believe."

      An allegedly omniscient god would have known that the veracity of those NT stories would be highly suspect; would be mistranslated, misunderstood, misinterpreted and debunked. This "God" of yours is either a sadistic trickster or is incompetent.

      August 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • Topher

      A Frayed Knot

      "An allegedly omniscient god would have known that the veracity of those NT stories would be highly suspect; would be mistranslated, misunderstood, misinterpreted and debunked. This "God" of yours is either a sadistic trickster or is incompetent."

      NOTHING has been debunked. And He did know it. I Corinthians 1:18-19 ... "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.'"

      Also, Psalm 14:1 ... "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' ... 14:4 ..."Have they no knowledge, all the evildoers who eat up my people as they eat bread and do not call upon the Lord?"

      You should be ashamed you have let the world fool you into being one of its sheep.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Topher

      The entire Genesis account in the bible has been debunked.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • sam stone

      "And let's not forget that these writers were inspired by God"

      A completely unproveable statement

      August 16, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • Topher

      How so?

      August 16, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Topher

      Earth forming before the sun, which we know to be false, because the elements the earth is formed of are created as stars go through their life, and die. Plants being here and thriving before the sun as well. We know that brids evolved after land animals. The moon also does not produce its own light, but instead reflects light from the sun onto the dark side (relative to the sun) of our planet.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • Topher

      I explained these things to you the other day. What a shock you reject those answers, too.

      "Earth forming before the sun, which we know to be false, because the elements the earth is formed of are created as stars go through their life, and die."

      Historical science can't be proven. So we're at a stalemate here. Your as.sumptions vs. mine.

      "Plants being here and thriving before the sun as well. We know that brids evolved after land animals."

      Again, historical science. Were you there? Or anyone else to witness this? Plants were here ONE day before the sun. And, as I explained to you the other day, God said there was light before the sun, so it's not a problem even then.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Topher,

      Ok, we can amend "debunked" to "unable to be verified". The rest stand.

      --------------------

      Ah, but you seem to think yourself wise to believe those spiels...

      August 16, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Topher

      Actually, it's not a stalemate, since I don't presuppose that "magic man done it". Staying within what can be tested, observed, and predicted gives it a lot more credence. Another thing, bringing up the "WERE YOU THERE" argument? Really? Are you that pathetically desperate? Do you know anything about the fossil record, including being able to build a rough timeline for the types of species around all the way back to Anomalocaris, and Haikouichthys.

      Then again, anything you get into a corner on will automatically default you to "The magic man done it". It's like you're programmed with only specific responses.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
    • Topher

      I know all about the fossil record and it points directly at a world-wide flood.

      Gotta go to work now. Have a good afternoon and God bless.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      HAH I knew that was coming. Make a claim, then he ditches, so as to not have to defend it.

      August 16, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
    • ME II

      "Historical science can't be proven."
      What exactly is "Historical science" and why can't it be "proven"?

      August 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Colin

      "I know all about the fossil record and it points directly at a world-wide flood.

      Gotta go to work now. Have a good afternoon and God bless."

      Those gifted paleontologists must be in high demand.

      August 16, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Topher, cutting and pasting out of context again, is the atheists way of lying.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      That post was directed to the atheist that stole Topher's and my handles.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • AGuest9

      "written by eyewitnesses during the lives of other eyewitnesses"

      Hearsay is not admissible in court.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:18 am |
    • AGuest9

      Topher, "I know all about the fossil record and it points directly at a world-wide flood."

      Again with this world-wide flood nonsense. I find it interesting that a google search produces page after page (I stopped after the first 10) of creationist pages. Not one serious scientific site addressed a fossil record pointing to a global flood. Never mind that there simply doesn't exist enough water to cover the entire surface of the planet.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:24 am |
  15. WASP

    hate to see the loss of life, but we will all meet that fate someday...........atleast he had a full life.

    August 16, 2012 at 9:25 am |
  16. Bootyfunk

    bad man.

    August 16, 2012 at 9:19 am |
  17. William Demuth

    Another nut job about to not find out there is no heaven!

    I am pleased to see the guard cult leaders dying off.

    Perhaps our newer generations will be less vulnerable to these charlatans

    August 16, 2012 at 8:44 am |
    • Orem

      How can you find out that there's no heaven. The only time you might find out there's no you to find out.

      August 17, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • AGuest9

      We can only hope, William.

      August 18, 2012 at 6:25 am |
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