My Take: How evangelicals could grow to love Muslims
The Islamic Center of America, a mosque in Dearborn, Michigan.
August 18th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

My Take: How evangelicals could grow to love Muslims

Editor's Note: Eboo Patel is founder and president of Interfaith Youth Core. His new book is called "Sacred Ground: Pluralism, Prejudice and the Promise of America."

By Eboo Patel, Special to CNN

Paul Ryan has set off joyous cheers in the land of conservatives largely because of his fiscal views but also because of his Catholic faith.

He is just the most recent member of his church – think House Speaker John Boehner, Republican runner-ups Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, and Supreme Court justices Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia – to be viewed as a flag-bearer for the conservative cause, a movement whose foot soldiers are largely evangelical Protestants.

The dynamic of evangelicals cheering for Catholics is one of the most stunning shifts in American political history. Just 50 years ago, evangelicals were ringing the alarm about the rising prominence of Catholics in American politics, not falling in line behind them.

“Our freedom, our religious freedom, is at stake if we elect a member of the Roman Catholic order as president of the United States,” Norman Vincent Peale told a conference of evangelical leaders in September 1960.

Materials handed out at the Peale conference claimed ‘Universal Roman Catholicism’ was both a religion and a political force whose doctrines were ultimately incompatible with the American ideals of freedom, equality and democracy.

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And the conference's keynote address alleged that Catholics practiced “mental reservation,” which allowed them to lie about their intentions in order to gain power. And when they succeeded, they would make second-class citizens of everyone else.

Replace “Roman Catholic” with “Muslim” and “Church hierarchy” with “caliphate” in those pronouncements and today we are witnessing a similar energy directed against a different faith community using largely the same categories.

In today’s parlance, Kennedy was part of a stealth jihad meant to replace the U.S. Constitution with sharia law and practicing taqqiyya to mask this dawa offensive.

As they believed about Catholicism then, many evangelicals now view the very nature of Islam as incompatible with American values. Evangelicals rate Muslims lower on a "‘favoribility" scale than any other religious group, according to "American Grace," a book by scholars Robert Putnam and David Campbell.

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Evangelical churches are favorite venues for Islamophobic speakers and prominent evangelical leaders like Franklin Graham regularly call Islam a threat to America.

It is easy to draw a straight line between the evangelical anti-Catholic prejudice of previous generations and the Islamophobia of today, essentially saying that “evangelicals have to hate someone.”

But that’s too cynical a take for me. The more interesting - and certainly more hopeful - storyline is the one about change.

Evangelical attitudes changed markedly towards Catholics in the past generation, and they are changing towards Muslims now.

Without doubt, the evangelical shift on Catholics can be partially explained by the two religion traditions finding common cause on political issues like abortion. But in "American Grace," Putnam and Campbell point to what they believe is a more important reason.

Over the course of the past fifty years, more evangelicals got to meet Catholics and the warmth in those personal relationships became generalized towards the larger community. If your Pal Al is Catholic and a good guy, then by extension Catholics as a group and Catholicism as a religion have some good qualities.

This is precisely the dynamic taking place between evangelicals and Muslims, a story for me best illustrated by a Dallas-based pastor named Bob Roberts. Bob grew up in the 1960s in East Texas and remembers the Pope regularly being referred to as “the Great Whore of Babylon” in his father’s Southern Baptist church.

He absorbed the anti-Catholic prejudice along with everyone else. But when he went on service trips to Southeast Asia as an adult, he discovered that the people doing the most intense, committed development work were inevitably Catholic. At first he admired them from afar. Then he got to know some up close, and they turned out to be not so bad.

After September 11, 2001, the anti-Muslim feeling was open and intense in Bob’s community. Truth be told, Bob felt it himself.

But he was self-aware enough to recognize the similarity between the irrational prejudice he absorbed about Catholics growing up and what he saw happening toward Muslims now.

So he did the same thing with Muslims that he’d done with Catholics: get to know them personally through common projects. Bob has traveled everywhere from Afghanistan to Gaza to do interfaith service projects with Muslims.

And now he is bringing fellow evangelicals along and involving the members of his Dallas mega-church in local interfaith projects. He’s speaking to young evangelical leaders about the importance of building relationships with Muslims as a Christian practice.

I know because in the midst of the opposition to the so-called Ground Zero mosque a couple years ago, a young pastor came to my office and asked me to guest preach about Islam at his evangelical church. He told me that Bob had sent him.

This is how communities change. Evangelicals make up 40% of America – when they change, America changes.

Maybe in 50 years, there will be no surprise when the loudest cheerleaders for Muslim presidential candidates and Supreme Court justices are evangelical Christians.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Eboo Patel.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Islam • Opinion

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  1. Dan

    No one has to love Muslims, everyone should 'tolerate' them. I don't love Wiccans, but I can tolerate them.

    August 20, 2012 at 7:12 am |
    • Reality

      Why we cannot tolerate Islam:

      As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

      o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
      BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.

      The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."

      25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT
      (Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:38 am |
  2. taz111111111

    Muslims need to evolve.

    August 20, 2012 at 6:52 am |
    • toad

      Into something more virulent?

      August 20, 2012 at 6:54 am |
    • Gary

      1b, gee, and would you allow someone to enter your home carrying a bible? Or would you allow your child marry a Christian? Hmm, I think not.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:16 am |
    • AtheistSteve


      I have often invited both Mormons and Jehovahs into my house and had honest conversations and lively debates about our differing beliefs. They are usually genuinely interested in what an atheist has to say...call it curiosity. What was intersting was how they confessed that they normally have doors slammed in their faces by other mainsteam Christians. Now there's an example of tolerance.
      As for allowing my child to marry a Christian...that would be up to them...their choice and I would still support and love them. Would you do the same if your child revealed they were gay and wanted to form a civil union or same sex marriage?

      August 20, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    • sam stone

      so do christians

      August 20, 2012 at 8:12 am |
  3. quest

    The problem is not Muslims. The problem is the doctrine of Islam.

    August 20, 2012 at 6:34 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Or the doctrine of Christianity, or the doctrine of Judaism, or the doctrine of Mormonism, or the doctrine of Scientology or the doctrine of (insert religious belief here).

      August 20, 2012 at 6:44 am |
    • toad

      The covert doctrine of atheism?

      August 20, 2012 at 6:53 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Please...do enlighten us all the the doctrines of atheism.
      I'll start....I do not believe in God.
      Oops....that's it.

      August 20, 2012 at 6:56 am |
    • Gary

      I will accept Muslims and Islamists only when they open their countries under Sharia to other religious faiths like Christianity and Judism and allow us to co-exist in peace. As long as Islam teaches, and Muslims practice a doctrine which condems all non-believers to death, you will remain a faith based on non tollerance and terrorism. Islam has not raised itself above the select few who wich to enslave their believers and will not tollerate thoughts beyond their ability to control the faithful. In short, the religious leaders of the Muslim faith rule by fear and hatred, while Christianity is based on love and tollerance of those that do not share their beliefs. A concept Islam has never understood or will tollerate.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:01 am |
    • toad

      Covert, but its existence is exposed by the rigid, doctrinaire thinking of its sphincter police.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:03 am |
    • toad

      Some of us aren't even atheist, AtheistSteve.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:07 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Right...Christians preach love and tolerance....unless you're gay...or a woman who wants to control their reproduction...or a biologist who wants to research cures using stem cells...or a teacher who wants to keep creationism out of science class....etc.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:11 am |
    • Mirosal

      wait wait wait .. Christianity is based on ... on what??? Tolerance??? Have you been reading the news in the past few years??? Better yet, have you ever taken a course on world history?? Not very tolerant those Christians.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:13 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Yes Mirosal how quickly they dismiss their own prejudices. Islam is batshit crazy...of that there is no doubt. But all other religions are equally whacked.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:26 am |
    • Mirosal

      Steve.. sheep only go where they are guided!! lol

      August 20, 2012 at 7:32 am |
    • toad

      Gary seems to be tolerating Mirosal and AtheistSteve pretty well. High marks for Gary. Gary?

      August 20, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      Christian girl with Down syndrome could face death penalty over burning of Islamic text in Pakistan

      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08/20/christian-girl-with-down-syndrome-faces-death-penalty-for-allegedly-burning/#ixzz2466oICHT

      August 20, 2012 at 10:42 am |
  4. Jake

    But Catholics have changed to the point that the Catholics of a 100 years ago wouldn't even consider them Catholic. The current Catholics don't do what the Pope says, Catholic Mass is far more like Protestant services than the Catholic Masses of old and Catholics are having 2 children not 10+. For Muslims to be accepted like Catholics, it's Muslims that are going to have to change. Perhaps that will happen, but the Muslim establishment will not be happy about that.

    August 20, 2012 at 6:05 am |
  5. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 20, 2012 at 5:45 am |
    • kindless

      oh here we go again – i come back from a nice weekend away, and i see this girl is still huffin jesus – my goodness. (And, if they are huffin jesus. they are usually huffin something else if you know what i mean. They have to use something to keep making all that made-up religious nonsense somehow real to them.) Of course atheism is fine for all people – keeps their heads clear and makes them useful. Mama kindless can tolerate some of these weak-minded people for a while, but if they start hiding their misdeeds in their crazy made-up religions, then she will find you as's and make sure society knows what you're up to.

      Religion is such a dangerous thing that preys on weak-minded, gullible fools. And to think that lawyers and politicians were just trying to make a buck and created all this mess hundreds of years ago – my goodness. Not gonna fool mama kindless. Daddy made me go to school when I was young. And we stayed away from drugs and religion. Thank goodness.

      August 20, 2012 at 9:03 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ,

      August 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
  6. mrbones

    I'd love them a whole lot more if they went back to their own country and stayed there.

    August 20, 2012 at 4:54 am |
    • sam stone

      in many cases, this IS "their own country"

      August 20, 2012 at 6:01 am |
  7. N

    From what I notice, evangelicals and muslims aren't that far off base. Their beliefs may be different, but by in large (meaning, most that I have personally had experience with), I have found to be intolerant and backwards. Of course, that's not to say everyone is but just from my experience.

    An important thing people fail to realize nowadays, being intolerant of intolerance is tolerable. If a religion or belief structure causes it's body to largely ostracize and treat other people poorly, their religion or faith doesn't deserve anyone's respect. There are ignorant, intolerant, and hateful people of every possible creed but if you teach that as your doctrine, your group deserves everything they have coming to them.

    August 20, 2012 at 4:01 am |
  8. musclecar61

    As Curley Sue said when pigs fly!

    August 20, 2012 at 3:15 am |
  9. NorthVanCan

    Two thousand years and counting. Something tells me we wont see love anytime soon.

    August 20, 2012 at 2:51 am |
  10. kevin

    This world will never see peace until religion has atrophied or been subjugated to the point where it is no more significant to note someone's religion as their eye color. Of course...that will never happen anytime soon.

    As someone who was raised in a conservative christian church, but became atheist when I started thinking for myself – I am SO perplexed why so many people are willing to believe the most ridiculous fables, even into adulthood. All I can think is that there is some kind of "imprinting" that occurs at a certain age of developing children where they are permenantly indoctrinated and emotionally tied to what they have been taught.

    I think there should be "a law" that prevents children from being indoctrinated in ANY religion until their age of consent (18?), then they can make up their own minds based on facts and knowledge, not indoctrination. My prediction is that a very small number of people would choose ANY religion, and especially even fewer would choose the dogmatic, backward, hate-filled religions such as Islam, if their eyes and brains were open.

    August 20, 2012 at 2:45 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      >>>"This world will never see peace. "

      So, racial issues and pure greed for land and resources will also disappear as well? Right now Ja'pan and China are moving to harsher words on who owns the rights to a small patch of islands in the Pacific that no one can live on but it is just rumored to have oil resources....With the opening of polar ice Canada is working to increase its navy fleet to protects its claims on resources that are becoming more accessible...

      ... No religious reasons at all, just ready to go to war over oil and you claim that peace will happen when the Faiths are gone? I can respect that you have chosen Atheism as a belief but at the same time a Atheist once posted there is a big difference from saying one does not believe in God and insulting others because they do.

      Peace will not exist on this planet until every man, woman and child are long extinct. As Whoopi Goldberg said, give it a hour or so and you can find some reason to dislike and hate another.

      Let it go Kevin, the sooner we marginalize folks on the extremes such as you, we will be able to at least work towards tolerance and co-existance. Those are and have always been the path to peace.

      August 20, 2012 at 3:15 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      I disagree Mark.
      On the whole atheists don't have a beef with people of faith but with the doctrines and dogma of their religion itself. We view the people within as victims, not adversaries, deserving pity. Admittedly we clash with proselytizers because they represent the assault forces doing the dirty work on behalf of their religion. I agree in part with Kevin. If mainstream religions became as irrelevant or low profile as say astrology or tarot readers our voices would mostly disappear. We still think those things are bogus but they don't affect society with discrimination and bigotry. The harm of religion is in creating an exclusive group with internal rules that don't treat everyone equally. Not really an issue if they kept their dogma and doctrine internal. This is what makes the secular humanist worldview superior. All the good bits of decency, goodwill and common sense morality that Jesus discussed without the scary bully supernatural garbage. Everyone is welcome regardless of race, sex, orientation etc. The world won't become a perfect utopia without religious influences but far fewer lines in the sand would be drawn. It would be better.

      August 20, 2012 at 5:00 am |
  11. iojdhtr

    As a Christian I certainly don't mind the average Muslim. Of course I totally disagree with their theology, but overall I find Muslims and Jews far more tolerable than pagans, hindus, buddhists or atheists (I realize that some of the aforementioned groups overlap).

    August 20, 2012 at 2:43 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      But yet pagans, Hindus, Buddhists, and Atheists are not creating war or denying equal rights over a belief in a super natural deity and you call yourself more tolerant???

      August 20, 2012 at 4:52 am |
    • captain america

      He was speaking as an American so it does not apply to you. There's your sign

      August 20, 2012 at 5:44 am |
    • terri

      In my opinion, many people are confused about the meaning of tolerance. When terms of love, peace, friendship, etc., are used to erode the teachings and principles of the Bible, it is acceptable to be intolerant.

      In business, CEO's have the right to make decisions for the company. Those within the company who seek actions in opposition to the CEO may be fired. Firing those who do not subscribe to a CEO's beliefs is "intolerant". However, no one questions the right of the CEO to use such intolerance to achieve peace and harmony within the company. On the other hand, humans constantly question God's right to uphold His positions.

      In the Bible, God says that He is the one true God and He jealously protects His omnipotence. In Bible times, groups determined to worship idols were ultimately ordered to be destroyed by God. Many people find this behavior to be "intolerant". However, as CEO of the universe, God has the right to protect his dominion, no matter how others may misinterpret His actions. Therefore, Christians have the duty and right to uphold Biblical principles even when incorrectly labeled as intolerant. The difference is that God gave direct orders for Christians to destroy idolatrous groups. He does not give such direct orders today. Tolerance means not carrying out God's judgements upon the world but waiting for Him to do so. It does not mean eroding God's principles in order to elevate all belief systems as equal.

      August 20, 2012 at 5:58 am |
    • sam stone

      more tolerable? well, that is mighty gracious of you.

      what exactly do pagans, buddhists, atheists, etc. do to make you intolerant of them?

      August 20, 2012 at 6:04 am |
    • sam stone

      terri: god needs to "protect his omnipotence"?

      why would an omnipotent god need to protect his omnipotence?

      how is an omnipotent god's omnipotence threated by what some people believe?

      August 20, 2012 at 6:08 am |
    • janet

      I'm the opposite. I do not like fundamentalists of any persuasion, meaning those who want to force their beliefs on others. This would include the current republican candidates for president and veep, christians who want to force their beliefs on others, and muslims who want to do the same. Your freedom of religion stops at the door to my house, my body, and public places, because then it interferes with my freedom of religion.

      August 20, 2012 at 6:16 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ iojdhtr ... I would like to know just HOW pagans, hindus, buddhists or atheists overlap. You cannot be one of these AND be another on this list. That would be like saying someone is an islamic jewish christian.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:20 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Mirosal: It was the fact that this person has it in its brain that the christians and muslims are more tolerant that got me (and regardless of what captain ass may think from its cave, it needs to know that religion is world wide and not just in its pre-school capable brain).

      August 20, 2012 at 7:25 am |
  12. Charlie

    I know this from my own self awareness and personal experience: no matter where you go in the world or who you talk to the human spirit yearns for the same basic wants and needs from life. There are good and bad in every group and to demonize an entire group of people is anti "god" and you hurt yourself in doing so. This is coming from a white guy raised in the conservative deep south.

    August 20, 2012 at 1:56 am |
  13. dike

    First muslims must learn to live with muslims... If only US left Iran and Iraq alone they would be fighting amongst themselves and the world would have been more peaceful.

    August 20, 2012 at 12:42 am |
  14. Manda

    Wow, listen to all of you zealouts ready to strangle each other over who knows the REAL god. Muslims, Christians, Jews – I've got a sobering thought for all of you – you are probably all equally deluded. You are all brainwashed from birth to believe that you are the chosen of God and that everyone else is an infidel trying to come between you and your rightful place as rulers of the earth. Religion is an archaic and dangerous virus that has gotten way out of control.

    August 20, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • Phew

      Glad someone could sort that out for everyone. Need a bullhorn?

      August 20, 2012 at 12:22 am |
    • Manda

      No thanks. My vitriol carries pretty well in it's raw form!

      August 20, 2012 at 1:33 am |
  15. Joshua

    Opinion: Learning to love Christians.

    August 20, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • Ok

      That would make for a novel article on this so-called belief blog which seems more like a forum for atheists to bash all religions but especially Christianity.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:21 am |
    • AjTease

      i'm Black, left-handed, and gay, so i really can't afford to be biased against anyone, but that just doesn't seem to stop people

      August 20, 2012 at 4:06 am |
    • Mark From Middle River

      >>>"i'm Black, left-handed, and gay, so i really can't afford to be biased against anyone,"

      Ok, I am African American as well. Do you pass the paper bag test or not? 🙂

      August 20, 2012 at 4:59 am |
  16. Reality

    Dear Eboo in case you missed this the first time,

    We come with a better solution:

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi--–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
    be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

    August 20, 2012 at 12:14 am |
    • Rain on Lorraine

      Reality you ROCK!

      August 20, 2012 at 12:15 am |
    • Lol

      Are their any steps for due programming the new, militant atheists?

      August 20, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Reality

      The "vomit-inducing" ped-ophilia and coverup will simply hasten the decline of all religions as they finally go extinct from their own absurdity.. It is time to replace all religions with a few rules like "Do No Harm" having said religions self- convert all houses of "worthless worship" to recreation facilities and parks.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:23 am |
    • Lol

      What exactly is to hold your irreligious society to your new rules?

      August 20, 2012 at 12:26 am |
    • Nino

      How is the Big Band Theory and Evolution more plausible? They are just "Theories", not Facts.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • truthordare7

      What one sees as love, the other sees as an opportunity to use them. Look around the world wherever there is a sizable muslim population, and you will see strife – unless of course they were all wiped out or subdued. They are busy killing buddhists for heaven sake!! If you have problem with Jews, Hindus, Chritians, Jains, Buddhists, Pagans, atheists, and anyone who is not muslim, then it is time for you to look in the mirror and realize the problem is YOU. It was s deliberate provocation on their part to build a mosque in New York City. They will do something like that and then when people get mad, they will claim the victim and entice the muslims all over the world to come to their rescue. Watch carefully. This trick has been used for centuries.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:39 am |
    • Mike Speakman

      1500 years of violence towards non-Muslims cannot be explained away. Muhammad was just a merchant who hit upon the perfect way to take control of Mecca and thus the proceeds of the pilgrims who ventured there to worship the pagan gods that were worshiped there first. In other words he was nothing more than a scam artist, that has caused untold pain and suffering with his bogus religion. Islam and free societies cannot mix peacefully.

      August 20, 2012 at 2:05 am |
    • herewego

      An 11-year-old Christian Pakistani girl could face the death penalty under the country's notorious blasphemy laws, after she was accused by her neighbours of deliberately burning sacred Islamic texts.

      Rifta Masih was arrested on Thursday, after complaints against her prompted angry demonstrations. Asif Ali Zardari, the president, has ordered

      August 20, 2012 at 2:24 am |
    • b4bigbang

      Reality: "...steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism.."

      Ohhhh, I get it now about the Reality's "2 minutes to peace".
      I used to skip over his lengthy trollish diatribe, but I actually read this one.
      A two minute read-over of his rubbish will liberate your soul – no, that sounds spiritual – liberate your inner child – yeah, that's it!

      August 20, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      "How is the Big Band Theory and Evolution more plausible? They are just "Theories", not Facts."

      They are facts!!! There is evidence to back each up. You might wish to educate yourself on what a theory in the scientific sense means.
      They can accurately predict the age of the universe to be around 13.7 billion years old and we have evidence in the physical form to support evolution.
      The fact you do not understand these things does not make them false.
      Try reading the following and then debate with us...it explains how the Scientific Method works. http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/scientific_method.html

      August 20, 2012 at 5:06 am |
    • Reality

      To the Peace Point in less than 10 seconds using a PowerPoint slide:





      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      Added details upon request.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:22 am |
    • Reality

      "What exactly is to hold your irreligious society to your new rules?"

      New rules???

      OT, NT and koran thu-mpers are actually thu-mping the rules and codes of the ancients like King Hammurabi and the Egyptians who wrote the Book of the Dead and who did NOT need revelations from angels or mountain voices to develop needed rules of conduct for us h-o-minids.

      Behold, I am come unto thee. I have brought thee truth; I have done away with sin for thee. I have not sinned against anyone. I have not mistreated people. I have not done evil instead of righteousness . . .

      I have not laid violent hands on an orphan.
      I have not killed; I have not turned anyone over to a killer.
      I have not caused anyone's suffering . . .
      I have not copulated (illicitly); I have not been unchaste.
      I have not increased nor diminished the measure, I have not diminished the palm; I have not encroached upon the fields.
      I have not added to the balance weights; I have not tempered with the plumb bob of the balance.
      I have not taken milk from a child's mouth; I have not driven small cattle from their herbage...
      I have not stopped (the flow of) water in its seasons; I have not built a dam against flowing water.
      I have not quenched a fire in its time . . .
      "The Book of the Dead was written circa 1800 BCE. 2 The Schofield Reference Bible estimates that the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt and the provision of the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai occurred in 1491 BCE., some three centuries later. Many religious liberals, historians, and secularists have concluded that the Hebrew Scripture's Ten Commandments were based on this earlier docu-ment, rather than vice-versa."

      Said rules of the ancients can be summarized in two statements of human evolution:

      DO NO HARM

      LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF (which also predates the bible)

      August 20, 2012 at 7:33 am |
  17. inkin

    Let me remind all those anti-semites out there who can't wait to smear Jews no matter what the discussion is about:
    Judaism doesn't preach wiping out other religions, doesn't kill each other by the thousands, doesn't commit terrorism,
    doesn't send suicide bombers to kill innocent people... and on and on. Maybe it's time for peace-loving Muslims to do a
    little more criticizing of their violent brethren, ... I haven't heard much condemnation on their part for the hate that 's spewed
    out by so called fundamentalist islamists. Where are they when their religion is so corrupted by the extremists? Probably
    afraid they'll be killed for speaking out.

    August 20, 2012 at 12:07 am |
    • Reality

      Fiction? Maybe. Read from top to bottom.

      •Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.

      •Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.)

      •Joshua: ◦Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
      ◦Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
      ◦Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
      ◦TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.

      •Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed.
      •Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
      •Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
      •Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.

      •1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
      •David: ◦2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles.

      ◦2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam.
      ◦2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.

      •1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
      •2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
      •2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
      •2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans

      •TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Old Testament/Torah.

      But did any of these atrocities actually occur?

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

      New Torah For Modern Minds

      “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

      The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel - not one shard of pottery."


      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • lb

      If you haven't heard Muslims speaking out against terrorism, then you haven't been listening. Not only do WE condemn terrorism, but also the Quran does. Muslims are constantly speaking out against murder and terrorism . For you to say otherwise is ignorant and wrong. Religion does not commit terrorism, people do. Did you just crawl out from under a rock? I have nothing against any religion. I love all people, no matter their faith. I also don't blame an entire religion and 20 percent of the entire world based on the actions of a few people. That is called bigotry and ignorance. You need to do some real research before you talk about things which you clearly don't understand.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:09 am |
    • b4bigbang

      Reality's body-count of the vast number God killed:
      answer: a really BIG number.
      + one unrepentant Reality
      = a really BIG number + 1.

      Reality repent!

      August 20, 2012 at 3:42 am |
    • sam stone

      let me point out that many muslims are semites

      August 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
    • Reality

      What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

      And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

      The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.

      Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

      Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.

      Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

      August 20, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  18. LAJ

    Big difference Catholics are Christians, Muslims are not. Modern Catholicism does not preach to kill those not of their beliefs, unfortunately many Muslim leaders still do. It is really the Muslim world that needs to accept other religions before they can be accepted. Many people seem to forget the it was America that stepped in and stopped the murder of thousands of Muslims by Christians in Bosnia and Kosovo, and then were rewarded by the bombings on 9-11. Seems to me that if many Muslims can not accept the existence of Christians and other faiths that it is they that must grow and accept. This comes from a person with many Muslim friends of Indonesian decent, most of who are wonderful people.

    August 19, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      perhaps they do not preach killing others for their beliefs, but they sure as hell support deny others their civil rights.

      August 20, 2012 at 6:10 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      Get over it sam

      August 20, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • sam stone

      good comeback, billy boy....

      August 20, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  19. Dan Goldstein

    Muslims are the enemies of the United States. They want to exterminate all us non-muslim "westerners" from the face of the earth and establish Islam as the world's only legitimate religion. As an infidel who must be killed by the muslims, I find it impossible to "grow to love muslims" as this article asks.

    August 19, 2012 at 11:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Dan you sound a little Semitic too. Us Indo-Europeans have had just about enough of you. There's something just not right about your breed. Go somewhere else and strangle each other.

      August 19, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Lol

      Could just be Goyman, I mean German.

      August 19, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • Dan Goldstein

      "heavensent" you sound very ANTI-SEMETIC. I suggest you refrain from spewing further outbursts of anti-Semitic remarks. Thank you.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:20 am |
    • Lol

      I suspect it was something of a sarcastic joke intended to make you think about the ironic fact that Jews and Arabs are both Semitic.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:24 am |
    • HeavenSent

      The only difference between Arabs and Jews is a story nobody really believes. When you went back to the armpit of the world you started behaving like all the other Semites. Fuck off Dan.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:26 am |
    • Dan Goldstein

      "lol" I am NOT laughing! There's NOTHING funny about anti-Semitic jokes, and it is totally inappropriate for such hateful diatribe to be posted on this discussion forum. Please refrain from posting any more anti-Semitic jokes here. Thank you.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:29 am |
    • Lol

      There's nothing wrong or even anti-Semitic about what I wrote. As for HS, I was wrong. I'll leave you two to your unhumorous and apparently mutual hate fest. By the way, how many hundreds of years after the Holocaust do Jews still get to use it as a license?

      August 20, 2012 at 12:33 am |
    • Comment

      The root post by Dan Goldstein is incendiary and has attracted the HeavenSent troll. Calm down Dan. Breathe. It's just a troll.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:33 am |
    • Steve-O

      Muslims are the enemy #1.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:36 am |
    • Lol

      Direct it at AhmadiniMad of Iran. He's the one who actually denies the Holocaust. How does someone that stupid ever become the leader of a country anyway?

      August 20, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • GATORpride

      Goldstein are you a zionist from Israel? My doctor of 9 years is a practicing muslim from Bangladesh living here in Florida. Should i consider him my enemy? I don't think so because unlike you who is probably and unemployed racist, had exposure to people of many cultures and religions.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:49 am |
    • Dan Goldstein

      Steve-O, THANK YOU!!! It's men like you who change the world for the better by standing up to tyranny and stopping it in it's tracks. I APPLAUD YOU!

      August 20, 2012 at 1:01 am |
    • Steve-O

      Dan Goldstein, you are very welcome, bro. I'll be happy to share my ammo with you should they ever try to take over.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:03 am |
    • derf

      Hey Steve-O. I know it sounds odd to most people, but I build AR-15s as sort of a hobby. What do you shoot?

      August 20, 2012 at 1:06 am |
    • Dan Goldstein

      lol, you're RIGHT! Ahmadinejad has spewed more anti-Semitic diatribe than Adolf Hilter. He is a threat to the entire world and soon the United States will have NO CHOICE but to use military force to put a stop to his illegal actions. The sooner we get a Republican back in the White House, the sooner we can put an end to the Iranian threat to the world.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • derf

      Woa Dan! I was with you on a lot of what you said, but a Republican?

      August 20, 2012 at 1:09 am |
    • Dan Goldstein

      derf, yes, because unfortunately, the Democrats do not have the CHUTZPAH to do what needs to be done to end the Iranian threat to the world.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:14 am |
    • derf

      Yeah but Dan, when the Iranians are gone there will still be a Republican in the whitehouse. Anyway, gotta go. Enjoyed the convo.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • Dan Goldstein

      derf, yes, but it will be WELL worth it, much better than allowing Iran to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel killing millions of innocent people. After WWII, America made a promise of NEVER AGAIN to the Jewish people, and every US President ever since as reaffirmed that promise multiple times every year. The majority of Americans expect their government to honor that promise.

      August 20, 2012 at 1:23 am |
    • sam stone

      HeavenSent: Get back on your knees and open your mouth. Jesus is coming again

      August 20, 2012 at 6:11 am |
    • Sam Stone

      S<i></i>a<i></i>m Ston<i></i>e<i></i> c<i></i>a<i></i>m<i></i>e<i></i> hom<i></i>e<i></i>,
      To his wif<i></i>e<i></i> <i></i>a<i></i>nd f<i></i>a<i></i>mily
      <i></i>a<i></i>ft<i></i>e<i></i>r s<i></i>e<i></i>rving in th<i></i>e<i></i> conflict ov<i></i>e<i></i>rs<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>s.
      <i></i>a<i></i>nd th<i></i>e<i></i> tim<i></i>e<i></i> th<i></i>a<i></i>t h<i></i>e<i></i> s<i></i>e<i></i>rv<i></i>e<i></i>d,
      H<i></i>a<i></i>d sh<i></i>a<i></i>tt<i></i>e<i></i>r<i></i>e<i></i>d <i></i>a<i></i>ll his n<i></i>e<i></i>rv<i></i>e<i></i>s,
      <i></i>a<i></i>nd l<i></i>e<i></i>ft <i></i>a<i></i> littl<i></i>e<i></i> shr<i></i>a<i></i>pn<i></i>e<i></i>l in his kn<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>e<i></i>.
      But th<i></i>e<i></i> morphin<i></i>e<i></i> <i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>s<i></i>e<i></i>d th<i></i>e<i></i> p<i></i>a<i></i>in,
      <i></i>a<i></i>nd th<i></i>e<i></i> gr<i></i>a<i></i>ss gr<i></i>e<i></i>w round his br<i></i>a<i></i>in,
      <i></i>a<i></i>nd g<i></i>a<i></i>v<i></i>e<i></i> him <i></i>a<i></i>ll th<i></i>e<i></i> confid<i></i>e<i></i>nc<i></i>e<i></i> h<i></i>e<i></i> l<i></i>a<i></i>ck<i></i>e<i></i>d,
      With <i></i>a<i></i> Purpl<i></i>e<i></i> H<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>rt <i></i>a<i></i>nd <i></i>a<i></i> monk<i></i>e<i></i>y on his b<i></i>a<i></i>ck.

      Th<i></i>e<i></i>r<i></i>e<i></i>'s <i></i>a<i></i> hol<i></i>e<i></i> in d<i></i>a<i></i>ddy's <i></i>a<i></i>rm wh<i></i>e<i></i>r<i></i>e<i></i> <i></i>a<i></i>ll th<i></i>e<i></i> mon<i></i>e<i></i>y go<i></i>e<i></i>s,
      J<i></i>e<i></i>sus Christ di<i></i>e<i></i>d for nothin' i suppos<i></i>e<i></i>.
      Littl<i></i>e<i></i> pitch<i></i>e<i></i>rs h<i></i>a<i></i>v<i></i>e<i></i> big <i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>rs,
      Don't stop to count th<i></i>e<i></i> y<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>rs,
      Sw<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>e<i></i>t songs n<i></i>e<i></i>v<i></i>e<i></i>r l<i></i>a<i></i>st too long on brok<i></i>e<i></i>n r<i></i>a<i></i>dios.

      S<i></i>a<i></i>m Ston<i></i>e<i></i>'s w<i></i>e<i></i>lcom<i></i>e<i></i> hom<i></i>e<i></i>
      Didn't l<i></i>a<i></i>st too long.
      H<i></i>e<i></i> w<i></i>e<i></i>nt to work wh<i></i>e<i></i>n h<i></i>e<i></i>'d sp<i></i>e<i></i>nt his l<i></i>a<i></i>st dim<i></i>e<i></i>
      <i></i>a<i></i>nd S<i></i>a<i></i>mmy took to st<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>a<i></i>ling
      Wh<i></i>e<i></i>n h<i></i>e<i></i> got th<i></i>a<i></i>t <i></i>e<i></i>mpty f<i></i>e<i></i><i></i>e<i></i>ling
      For <i></i>a<i></i> hundr<i></i>e<i></i>d doll<i></i>a<i></i>r h<i></i>a<i></i>bit without ov<i></i>e<i></i>rtim<i></i>e<i></i>.

      August 20, 2012 at 6:40 am |
    • Sam Stone

      Sam Stone came home,
      To his wife and family
      after serving in the conflict overseas.
      and the time that he served,
      Had shattered all his nerves,
      and left a little shrapnel in his knee.
      But the morphine eased the pain,
      and the grass grew round his brain,
      and gave him all the confidence he lacked,
      With a Purple Heart and a monkey on his back.

      There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes,
      Jesus Christ died for nothin' i suppose.
      Little pitchers have big ears,
      Don't stop to count the years,
      Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.

      Sam Stone's welcome home
      Didn't last too long.
      He went to work when he'd spent his last dime
      and Sammy took to stealing
      When he got that empty feeling
      For a hundred dollar habit without overtime.

      August 20, 2012 at 6:44 am |
    • Daddy24/7

      Dan Goldstien, When will Israel grow a pair and learn to fight for themselves ? They should stop being a pu$$y and fight their own war. Stop asking the US to fight for them. and lets hope the next US president has the CHUTZPAH to stop sending $3billion of aid to Israel. We need it here at home.

      August 20, 2012 at 7:02 am |
  20. Freedom Lover

    How evangelicals could grow to love Muslims....?? did I read love Muslims..?? perhaps sun will have to rise from west to make that happen for civilized and freedom loving people...let's ask the question do the muslims love each other..middle east, iraq, syria, bahrain, pakistan, afghanistan....where they're killing each other and if they have some time then create terror for the rest of the world..that ideology is a blot & cancerfor civilized world.

    August 19, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
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