August 21st, 2012
05:31 PM ET

A look into Romney's religion

(CNN)–For many voters, getting to know Mitt Romney as a candidate also means sorting out facts from fiction about Mormonism.  CNN's Gary Tuchman reports.

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  1. db walton

    I find it disturbing at how many people have posted here trying to come off as experts on Mormonism. It is sad to think so many ignorant people exist given our modern technology and access to information. And, all the study on the world won't fully answer the question, 'Are Mormons Christians?' unless you are willing to spend time to really find out for yourself. (I have, and they are Christians.)

    August 23, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • Len

      Christians who believe in a bunch of stuff even weirder than what usual Christians believe, you mean? Lucifer was Jesus' brother. God was once a human (or something else mortal) who became elevated to godhood, like everyone else can. A 19th century man translated an ancient text into 17th century English. The Garden of Eden was in Missouri. Native Americans come from the lost tribes of Israel.

      I mean... Cone On! They may be Christian, but why should anyone take them seriously, and how rational are you if you really believe this stuff?

      August 23, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  2. TwoWords

    Two Words: Magic Underpants.

    Some of you on this board believe Romney is hated because his religious beliefs are different. You believe that he is being unfairly persecuted because of his religious beliefs. I would like to remind you all that everyone in this country is allowed to believe what they wish, no matter what (see: Tom Cruise). No one can tell another person what they can or can't worship. That's what makes this country great. We are a secular nation.

    However, when it comes to the person with his or her finger on the red button; the person with the power and influence to change the world; the person who represents this nation to the rest of the world, I warn you – we do not want that person to be insane.

    Mitt Romney is an upper-level religious leader in a religion where he believes his underpants will protect him from harm. Think about that for a minute please. He believes, according to his religious doctrine, and he must, to have held this high honor in his church, that his underwear will protect him from evil, fire, bullets, disease, and other bad things.

    Do you want this man representing you and this great country? If he truly believes this, is he not insane?

    Please do not overlook this simple test. While all religions may have their quirks that we all think a bit silly like Catholics actually think the host (the little wafers) at communion poofs into the body of Christ and wine poofs into his blood, even they admit it's symbolic when it comes down to it.

    Please do your homework and look into this religion of Mormonism and find out the truth about it before you place this crazy person into our precious position of the leader of the free world. If you do vote for him, you are insane too and deserve the wars and chaos you will get.

    August 23, 2012 at 9:19 am |
    • mdburr

      Simply put, that is not a belief of Mormonism. There are, perhaps, some individual Mormons who have misinterpreted teachings about sacred garments, and believe they are embued with some mythological, magical power, and if you talk to those people or use them for your source of information about Mormon beliefs around their sacred vestments, then you might erroneously believe that all Mormons believe this, or that what you have heard is somehow accurate. On the contrary, garments are clothing, made of cloth, certainly not bullet resistant or fire proof. Their protection is insofar as they are a visual and physical reminder to the wearer of sacred covenants, thereby to help the wearer stay true to those covenants, and thereby protecting them from the consequences of sin. The term "magic underwear" is perjurative, ignorant, and phrased to use the juxtaposition of something as ethereal and fantastic as magic with something as base and mundane as underwear to conjure a ridiculous image, and then use that image to paint a community of individuals as foolish for believing such ridiculous things, nevermind that the Mormon community at large does not believe those things. It's a fancy rhetorical device worthy of lesser men, but not someone who would have us believe he is a voice of reason. Your post is misinformed, malignant, and uses artifice to try and fleece readers. Classy.

      August 23, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • Lucinda


      Your words aren't worth Two Cents. Where and when did Mitt Romney ever say that his underpants would protect him from evil, fire, bullets, disease and other bad things? Have you read about his wife, Ann? She has suffered through two different diseases (MS and Breast Cancer, both currently in remission) and she wears the same kind of underpants. Have you read about the Mormon missionary in Jamaica who died from a gunshot wound received as the car he was riding in got caught in the crossfire of gang warfare? He wore the same kind of underpants. Have you read about the young mother in Utah that suffered 3rd degree burns over 90% of her body when the plane she was riding in crashed. She wore the same kind of underpants.

      These "underpants" don't protect us from these types of harm. We are just as human as you and prone to the same kind of tribulation any other person on earth is prone to suffer. Our "underpants" are nothing more than a constant reminder of the covenants we have made with our Heavenly Father; His Son, Jesus Christ; and our spouse and children to whom we have been sealed for eternity through the keys that Elijah (an ancient Biblical prophet) restored to the earth. The only thing these "underpants" save us from is ourselves. They remind us to always choose the right and to keep the commandments of God (the same Ten Commandments that were given to Moses) and the two greatest commandments that all the laws hang on – Love Thy Neighbor and Love God with all our heart, might, mind and strength.

      Having a President who is willing to put all of these laws above any earthly benefit he may receive from denying them, is the kind of President this country needs and wants. Having a President willing to get down on his knees and pray for help and guidance in all of his decisions is the kind of President this country needs and wants. Having a President like Mitt Romney is the kind of President this country needs and wants.


      August 23, 2012 at 10:16 am |
    • Ladyblueyes

      How sad that you attack someone on their belief in their religion, for that is exactly what it is. You have no idea of what it takes to live ones belief day after day – truly LIVING what you believe in spite of the idiots surrounding you.

      Now, to answer your idiotic and infantile post: it is symbolic to us. Those of us that wear it do so as a sign of our faith. It "saves" us from those things as we honor it by thinking and putting ourselfs away from temptations, away from places or things that can be harmful to us. As long as we are wearing our garments, we remember promises that we have made between our Maker and ourself and we try to hold ourself to a higher standard: keeping ourselves morally clean, praying always, keeping ourselves healthy by exercise and diet (I, myself, fail miserably here, but the church isn't for the perfect! It's for those striving towards perfection), reminds us to keep ourselves in safe places and away from harmful areas that can be temptations to us.

      It's not "magic" but a constant and daily reminder. Now if I was to wear some of the clothing of today, I might be tempted to take a more carnal path ... Well, that and people would probably say "that is just WRONG" as I am no model figure ... But we are normal people trying to live a moral life.

      That's all. No "magic" to it. No different than a catholic wearing a cross, a Jew wearing Astra of David or a yamaka. So your comment has now made you look uninformed and infantile.

      August 23, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • Warren

      No, Mormons don't believe that. If you shoot a Mormon wearing his "magic underpants" as you put it, they will die. They know that.

      August 23, 2012 at 10:54 am |
    • Don't kill in the Name of Allah, he is FAKE.

      when you are talking wise here, today, a tank explodes on the street of Syria killing 155 innocent civilians. Pick your leader wisely, implementing right policies matters the most, not the guy wraps his testicles in tin foil.

      August 23, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  3. Dyslexic doG

    Is Mormonism Christian?" is a very important question. The answer is equally important and simple. No. Mormonism is not Christian.

    The reason Mormonism is not Christian is because it denies one or more of the essential doctrines of Christianity. Of the essential doctrines (that there is only one God in all existence, Jesus is divine, God in flesh, forgiveness of sins is by grace alone (Eph. 2:8-9; Rom. 4:1-5), and Jesus rose from the dead physically (1 John 2:19; Luke 24:39), the gospel being the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, 1 Cor. 15:1-4), Mormonism denies three of them: how many gods there are, the God of Christianity, and His work of salvation.

    Mormonism teaches

    Mormonism teaches that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones (D. & C. 130:22) and that Jesus is a creation. It teaches that he was begotten in heaven as one of God’s spirit children (See the Book, Jesus the Christ, by James Talmage, p. 8). This is in strict contrast to the biblical teaching that he is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14), eternal (John 1:1, 2, 15), uncreated, yet born on earth (Col. 1:15), and the creator all (John 1:3; Col. 1:16-17). Jesus cannot be both created and not created at the same time. Though Mormonism teaches that Jesus is God in flesh, it teaches that he is "a" god in flesh, one of three gods that comprise the office of the Trinity (Articles of Faith, by Talmage, pp. 35-40). These three gods are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. This is in direct contradiction of the biblical doctrine that there is only one God (Isaiah 44:6,8; 45:5). See Trinity for a correct discussion of what the Trinity is (see also, false trinity)

    Because Mormonism denies the biblical truth of who God is, who Jesus is, how forgiveness of sins is attained, and what the gospel is, the Mormon is not Christian - in spite of all his claims that he is Christian. Quite simply, the Mormon god doesn't exist.

    Mormonism teaches

    Mormon theology teaches that God is only one of countless gods, that he used to be a man on another planet, that he became a god by following the laws and ordinances of that god on that world, and that he brought one of his wives to this world with whom he produces spirit children who then inhabit human bodies at birth. The first spirit child to be born was Jesus. Second was Satan, and then we all followed. But, the Bible says that there is only one God (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8; 45:5), that God has been God eternally (Psalm 90:2) - which means he was never a man on another planet. Since the Bible denies the existence of other gods (and goddesses), the idea that Jesus is the product of a god and goddess couple is rejected. The Bible tells us that Jesus – The Jesus of Mormonism – is definitely not the same Jesus of the Bible. Therefore, faith in the Mormon Jesus is faith misplaced because the Mormon Jesus doesn't exist.

    Mormonism teaches that the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross itself (and receiving it by faith) is not sufficient to bring forgiveness of sins. It teaches that the forgiveness of sins is obtained though a cooperative effort with God; that is, we must be good and follow the laws and ordinances of the Mormon church in order to obtain forgiveness. Consider James Talmage, a very important Mormon figure who said, "The sectarian dogma of justification by faith alone has exercised an influence for evil," (Articles, p. 432), and "Hence the justice of the scriptural doctrine that salvation comes to the individual only through obedience," (Articles, p. 81). This clearly contradicts the biblical doctrine of the forgiveness of sins by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1; 6:23; Eph. 2:8-9) and the doctrine that works are not part of our salvation but a result of them (Rom. 4:5, James 2:14-18).

    To further confuse the matter, Mormonism further states that salvation is twofold. It maintains that salvation is both forgiveness of sins and universal resurrection. So when a Mormon speaks of salvation by grace, he is usually referring to universal resurrection. But the Bible speaks of salvation as the forgiveness of sins, not simple universal resurrection. Where Mormonism states that forgiveness of sins is not by faith alone, the Bible does teache it is by faith alone. Which is correct? Obviously, it is the Bible.

    Mormonism and the Bible

    In order to justify its aberrant theology, Mormonism has undermined the authority and trustworthiness of the Bible. The 8th article of faith from the Mormon Church states, "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly." This means that when the Bible contradicts Mormonism, the Bible isn't trustworthy.

    The interesting thing is that Joseph Smith allegedly corrected the Bible in what is called The Inspired Version, though it is not used by the LDS church. Though they claim they trust the Bible, in reality they do not. They use Mormon presuppositions to interpret it instead of letting it speak for itself. For example, where the Bible says there are no other gods in the universe (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8), they interpret it to mean "no other gods of this world" – which is not what those verses say. They do not trust the Bible and they often state that the Bible is not translated correctly.


    Why is Mormonism a non-Christian religion? It is not Christian because it denies that there is only one God, denies the true Gospel, adds works to salvation, denies that Jesus is the uncreated creator, distorts the biblical teaching of the atonement, and undermines the authority and reliability of the Bible.

    no-one denies that Mormons are good people, that they worship "a" god, that they share common words with Christians, that they help their people, and that they do many good things. But that isn't what makes someone Christian. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21-23, " Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" (NKJV). Becoming a Christian does not mean belonging to a church, doing good things, or simply believing in God. Being a Christian means that you have trusted in the true God for salvation, in the True Jesus - not the brother of the devil, not the god of Mormonism, not the gospel of Mormonism. Mormonism is false and cannot save anyone.

    August 23, 2012 at 8:46 am |
    • .

      Just a question. Is it possible that Mormons (members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ) are the christians and have the true doctrine and the others are not?

      August 23, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  4. Dyslexic doG

    the upcoming election will prove two points.
    (a) that christians are believers according to convenience, and
    (b) that republican christians are republicans first and christians second

    Romney is a mormon which is a religion that, as well as co-optingsome parts and characters from the bible word for word, also contradicts and makes a mockery of so many key christian religious beliefs that it should be a bigger issue to christians than gay marriage and abortion. But ... the same way as christians always pick and choose which parts of the bible to loudly proclaim and which parts of the bible to pretend don't exist ... they will ignore all these issues and vote for Romney anyway.

    What do you think God/Jesus will think of you if you give your vote to a man who truly believes that he will one day be a God? Or a man who truly believes that Joseph Smith, a 19th century reknowned con-man, is an equal of Jesus?

    Go on christans, pretend you never read this post. Find some obscure bible quote that will justify you supporting a cult. What a joke!

    August 23, 2012 at 8:43 am |
    • Patricia


      August 23, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  5. Jewel of Allah

    All religion owes all to Allah, all praise be unto him, by whose will his Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, brought the double penetration dildo into the world. Romney/Ryan, Mormon and Catholic but joined by one, will climb to the heights of world power and show all that all praise should be unto Allah.

    August 23, 2012 at 8:12 am |
    • Which God?

      @Jewel. Muhammad is a joke. An Ilitierate pedophile, with delusions of grandeur.

      August 23, 2012 at 10:23 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Allah brought the idea of mechanical double penetration di ldo into the world and don't forget Mohammad, peace be upon him, come up with idea that a true follower will be given many women in Jannat. You must give credit where it is due.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  6. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    August 23, 2012 at 7:43 am |
    • kindless

      Not true actually. It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. Teaching kids to be agnostic helps reinforce their understanding of the new real things they can see and learn about in life. It helps them properly separate the known from the unknown without confusing them. They just need to be taught things that are unknown, like god, and things that are made up, like all religion.

      Atheists have strong minds, and don't run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, disserving society).

      Prayer is really just a time-sucker-upper. The best time to think about someone who is ill or just someone else you wish well is – well any time you can think about them or actually do something for them with your strong mind. So don't weaken your mind by adding in make-believe characters.

      We have only begun to scratch the surface in using the mind to its maximum, and damaging it with made-up junk that politicians and salesmen dreamed up long ago is senseless, and as history has shown, is dangerous to society.

      old mama kindless

      August 23, 2012 at 9:00 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs .

      August 23, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Do you consider Salat or Namaz a prayer? it literally changes our people how they behave.

      August 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  7. Henry

    The problem with religion is that many people believe their faith is the only way to live a worthy life. In that sense, many religions are exclusive, not inclusive. If you cut the world up into little pieces, it is no longer whole. This sort of exclusivity is an emphatically human characteristic, and has nothing to do with the nature of God.

    August 23, 2012 at 7:36 am |
  8. Reality

    Being fair about it:


    Joe Smith had his Moroni. (As does M. Romney)

    "Latter-day Saints like M. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

    Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

    Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

    Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As does BO and his family) (And Biden) (And Ryan)

    The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

    Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

    August 23, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • ....


      August 23, 2012 at 7:44 am |
  9. dilberth

    Each and every religion claims that their religion is the one true religion. Well, they can't all be right. But they can all be wrong. And they are!

    August 23, 2012 at 3:37 am |
    • Zen Galacticore

      Yep. Everyone's wrong, except the Presbyterians! haha

      August 23, 2012 at 6:41 am |
  10. TimM

    Most Politicians are liars at some point in their Careers. The problem is, if it is a politician that we support, we think of another word instead of using the word lying. With the left wanting to 'Separate Church and State", they sure are making a big deal out of the Mormonism/Christian debate. I wonder why????? Oh yeah....it's a great distraction.

    August 23, 2012 at 1:59 am |
    • Zen Galacticore

      It's because Romney is a "High Priest" or "bishop" of the Mormon church, and therefore his religion is fair game in an election contest.

      JFK was a Roman Catholic, but he was not a priest, so many voters ignored his religion.

      August 23, 2012 at 6:44 am |
    • Really

      So you are excluding anyone from a leadership role in public office if they have a leadership role in their church and we can attack anyone in a leadership role in their church? So let's hate on someone's religion and their position in their religion as opposed to their deeds, misdeeds, and their public policies?
      What purposes does attacking someone's religion serve other than to confirm personal bias and misunderstanding of someone else's faith?

      August 23, 2012 at 11:39 am |
  11. View from the Top

    Why does it matter what religion Romney – or anyone else for that matter – belongs to? If you like his vision for America, vote for him. Else, just pick Obama!

    Either way, this is the USA, not Afghanistan we\'re talking about. It\'s not as if the Prez can impose his religious faith – Mormon, Christian or otherwise – on the rest of us!

    August 23, 2012 at 1:59 am |
    • Juliana L'Heureeux

      “Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.” Mahatma Gandhi quotes

      August 23, 2012 at 6:38 am |
  12. MM

    Latter Day President Howard W. Hunter on the subject: “We do not need to apologize nor mitigate any of the prophecies concerning the Holy Land. We believe them and declare them to be true. But this does not give us justification to dogmatically pronounce that others of our Father’s children are not children of promise. … Both the Jews and the Arabs are children of our Father. They are both children of promise, and as a church we do not take sides. We have love for and an interest in each.” (Devotional speech BYU 1979)
    Mitt Romney is conducting a violation of Mormon creed by being Israel's agent, advocating a pre-emptive strike against on behalf of a fake Zion, or insisting an exclusively 'Jewish state' to be the case anywhere.SORRY MITT, THAT'S TAKING SIDES!

    Israel-influenced media doesn't remember the extent the USA went
    to keep Israel non-atomic, and failed. Did we have a Mormon candidate then who advocated bombing Israel? We've got one now that advocates bombing Iran when the same 'last wire' means of operation (all production done except for assembly) was practiced by Israel as much as its practiced by Iran today.
    Since when did the so many columnists and their newspapers become so careless about the differences in beliefs about End Times between the christian sects?

    8th paragraph:
    'last wire'...just like present day Iran charge.


    August 23, 2012 at 1:50 am |
  13. Carlos

    What a crazy weirdo I hope Obama wins I will have to leave America I am a atheist.

    August 23, 2012 at 1:30 am |
  14. Roger

    How incredibly convenient that your parent's religion is the one true religion.

    August 23, 2012 at 1:27 am |
    • LindaSDF

      I am LDS (Mormon). My parents are not. Obviously, I do not believe my parents' religion is the one true religion.

      August 23, 2012 at 4:34 am |
  15. Jack Hackman

    I find it strange that so many Evangelical Christians think Mormons share many Christian traits. Christians believe Jesus is the mesiah..he died on the cross for our sins(Good Friday) and accended to heaven (Easter Sunday). Mormons believe Jesus came to America with the lost tribes of Israel and they were the first people in America, the Indians were decesdents of these early people. Mormons also believe their flesh is no different than Gods and they(Mormons) can become Gods and strive to do so. To Christians that belief is no different than Lucifer, who was cast out of heaven because he wanted to be a God. There are other differences but the above two seperate Mormons from Christians in a BIG way.

    August 23, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Crucifixion is nothing more than Cruci- fiction of a hindu pagan god Mithra, savior, labeled as hindu fictional man god Jesus and their book of hinduism, absurdity called bible bares witness to it. Handy work of hindu Jew's, filthy self centered to hind fool humanity.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:30 am |
    • Tommyrot

      hinduism source...

      Whenever you're willing to give crucifixion a try I've got nails and wood. You know, you could have a bright future as the savior of the world.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:34 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      hinduism fabrication of hindu pagan deity Jesus has nothing to do with son of blessed Mary, Easu, anointed one by hinduism, corruption of his name Jesus. Letter J is added to make him a Jew, self centered but he was a Hebrew. letter A is deleted to conform it to hindu pagan trinity as in pagan word God and letter S is added to show respect according to Hebrew language, not multiple personalities. word Jesus having no meaning's, just hinduism absurdity of hindu Magi's, criminal tricksters by hindu Jew's, filthy secular s of Egyptian and Persian origin.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:39 am |
    • Cam

      I am a Mormon and I know Jesus is the Christ and that he paid for our sins and was resurrected after being crucified and hung on the cross. He is the Son of God and the only way back to God is through the Atonement of Jesus Christ.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:44 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      I will be glad to pass this hindu, absurd opportunity to you, with respect, brother you be the first, you deserve more for being a hindu, denier of truth absolute or wright a cruci- fiction to be famous Mithra, savior of hindu's, ignorant's.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:46 am |
    • sendai

      You have been judged, Cam, and found to be a Mormon. Not a Christian. Regarding the afterlife, there may not be one. And if there is, you may be judged to be A-OK. Who knows?

      August 23, 2012 at 12:46 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Only by your hindu soul, ignorant desire, having nothing to do with truth absolute, as he said, I can not do any thing on my own, by you book of hindu Mithraism, pagan savior ism called bible, or are you claiming to be hindu pagan Paul spewing your hinduism, absurdity.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:54 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      long live Pakistan.

      August 23, 2012 at 1:02 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      by the way I am Imam in Madress in Pakistan. And this is what we Imams teach our students.

      August 23, 2012 at 1:28 am |
    • LindaSDF

      Mormons believe Jesus is the Christ, our Messiah, who died on the cross for our sins and rose again so that we, too, can have eternal life.
      Jesus did visit His sheep that were living in the western hemisphere, but we do not believe that He came here on any boats or with other people. This was after His resurrection, but before His final ascension into heaven. Yes, there were ancient Hebrews that came to the western hemisphere, but we do not know if they were the first, or the only; in fact, they probably were not.
      Our flesh is NOT the same as Heavenly Father. He does have a body of flesh and bone, this is true, but His is exalted and perfected, and is immortal.
      Yes, we strive to be more like our Heavenly Father. We do not believe we were put here for His amusement but for our own eternal exaltation. He does not achieve HIS glory by putting us down, but by lifting us up! We do not worship Him by debasing ourselves, but by trying to become as He is. He is our Heavenly FATHER, and like all loving parents, He wants us to be the BEST we can be. We do not want, as Lucifer did, the POWER of God, nor do we want, as Lucifer did, the glory that should go to God. We do not want to usurp God, but to join Him. And that's what He wants, too.

      August 23, 2012 at 4:52 am |
    • Zen Galacticore

      Excellent point, Jack. Many Christians are aware of the whacky claims and blasphemous aspirations of Mormonism and Mormons. Apparently, they see Romney as the lesser of two evils, just as many voting for Obama see him as the lesser of two evils.

      But I think that if more people (and not just Christians) knew in more detail Mormonism, they would find Romney creepier than he already is, and would never vote for him. Personally, I don't think he stands a snowball's chance in hell at winning the White House.

      Btw, if I remember correctly, Lucifer didn't want to be "a" god, but The God.

      August 23, 2012 at 6:51 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I think Lucifer, at least in the Bible – I'm not sure about Mormon material, wanted to be "like the most high God" and offered to Eve that she could be like God: “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” How do Mormons differ?

      August 23, 2012 at 8:10 am |
    • .

      @tom tom. That sounds pretty close.

      August 23, 2012 at 10:34 am |
  16. Sad that hatred is so common

    I am sad to see so much hate. I am sad that it is so common. My children are Mormon....today they are the targets of your hate. Tomorrow, your hatred will find a new target. That is sad. I hope that we can replace our hatred with tolerance and find acceptance and peace.

    August 22, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      word tolerances is based on word toll, to weigh, one weighing not to truth absolute in his mor mann choice in path of his soul by faith , desire can not be counted to weigh thing's right, One has to be free of hindu Judaism, filthy secularism, self center ism to obey truth absolute to weigh thing's right, it is not hate, as you may call it in your soul, desire, but in fact, one in following of hindu Judaism ,filthy secularism in his hinduism, deception can not be called truthful, but a hindu Magi, filthy trickster, and hindu, denier of truth absolute Romney is not just un American but an enemy to fundamental of American values, written on rock of truth absolute as God.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:02 am |
    • Jewel of Allah

      Your children are as safe from hatred as Allah, all praise be unto him, can make them.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • Allah Who?

      Jewel of Allah
      "Your children are as safe from hatred as Allah can make them."

      So "Allah" is limited in what 'he' can and cannot do?

      August 23, 2012 at 12:07 am |
    • Jewel of Allah

      "Teach me to live that I may dread
      The grave as little as my bed."

      August 23, 2012 at 12:10 am |
    • Kenny

      Pretty thin skin you've got there. Making fun of what someone believes isn't the same as "hating" that person.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:11 am |
    • Sad that hatred is so common

      LOL. So, you haven't found any hatred here, eh? Yep. Like I said. So sad.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:15 am |
    • Sad that hatred is so common

      The FIRST response to this had "filthy" in the comment 3 times. So if I referenced you, your children, your beliefs, and called them "filthy", may it be a hint of hate? LOL.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:17 am |
    • Comment

      Hate is something I haven't felt since I was 9-years-old. I am amused at times, mystified or appalled at other times. And that's just over Mormons.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:20 am |
    • Comment

      Hindu... replies to postings at random. It's bent.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:21 am |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Pakistan is the future of Islam. Support Pakistan on muslims' fight against infidels. Long live Pakistan.

      August 23, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • Allah Who?

      hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.,

      Infidel schminfidel. Pound sand, you cretin.

      August 23, 2012 at 1:10 am |
    • Im LDS

      I agree, but ihave a filling it's going too get much worse bnefore it get's better.. but withthat said i have hope that when the lord arrives ill be very happy

      August 23, 2012 at 1:49 am |
    • Jay

      Bless your heart. CNN does nothing but stir up hate with every group. It may be religion, race, political agenda. or whatever, they actually enjoy hating people, especially Republicans.. CNN where is your report on Obama's church?
      The church he addended for over 20 years and the story of Reverand Wright who did nothing but spread hate, you seem to forget. You would never touch the story because you have an agenda to reelect Obama.

      August 23, 2012 at 2:51 am |
    • Len

      I think that, if you examined the "hateful" comments closely, many, if not most of them are probably coming from other Christians who see Mormonism as a cult. To atheists, Mormons are just like all the other Christians. Maybe they believe in a few extra layers of silliness, but they share the same basic framework of silliness as the rest. Perhaps you can make a case for original forms of Christianity to have some more legitimacy because their origins are so ancient that we cannot disprove them absolutely, but Mormonism is relatively young and we know that it was started by a con man just as certainly as we know that Scientology was started by a syfy writer who said out loud that starting a religion was the easy way to become rich, and then he started a religion, ... and became rich.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
  17. krm1007 ©™

    I see skies of blue, and clouds of white
    The bright blessed day, dark sacred night
    And I think to myself
    What a wonderful world without infidels!!!

    Allah o Akbar
    Karim Pakistan

    August 22, 2012 at 11:03 pm |
    • Allah Who?

      Are you nuts?

      August 23, 2012 at 12:02 am |
  18. Jewel of Allah

    All religion owes all to Allah, all praise be unto him, by whose will his Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, brought the double penetration dildo into the world. Romney/Ryan, Mormon and Catholic but joined by one, will climb to the heights of world power and show all that all praise should be unto Allah.

    August 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
    • JoJo

      What the hell?

      August 22, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Tommyrot


      August 23, 2012 at 12:41 am |
  19. Disco

    Everyone Mormon (and I mean every one) I have ever associated with is an honest, god fearing patriotic good citizen. Why they are judged, bashed, molested, is beyod belief. I guess if you don't understand something, less educated people fear it.

    I like Mormons.

    August 22, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • sendai

      I dislike anything that smells of marketing. More that most, Mormons package themselves to be accepted as honest god fearing patriotic good citizens. They want to be injected into mainstream American life so that they can integrate and not be dislodged. And why? To deliver information foreign to us but certainly useful to them as they replicate and, ultimately, spread to other hosts.

      August 22, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • J. Smith

      Mormons, among other equally atrocious and worrisome things, believe they will become "gods"..
      Mormons, until only recently, believed that "colored people" were "colored" because they were evil..
      Mormons, against mountains of irrefutable evidence, believe wildly irrational things concerning THIS countries history..
      Mormons are all delusional whackjobs; And, No Mormon Should EVER Be The "Most Powerful Man On Earth.

      August 22, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Kenny

      They may be all those things, Disco, and nobody questioned those things either, but they also believe in some of the weirdest religious nonsense out there. Why they can believe in such things is what's makes them funny.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:14 am |
    • Jay

      No one is discussing that Marie and Donny Osborne are Mormons, and they seem to be very nice respected people. I bet CNN would never mention that Harry Reid is a Mormon, but he would not be a good example. It's just the Media would not hold it against Reid because they are too busy attempting to destroy Romney.

      August 23, 2012 at 2:59 am |
    • Len

      When Harry Reid, Donny or Marie run for president, and nobody makes any comments about their Mormonism, then come back with your comment, OK?

      August 23, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  20. sendai

    Romney is, by his own admission, a Mormon. In order to become one of the few non-Christian American presidents he has claimed to be a Christian. He is not. Just as he is not an atheist or a founding member of the Clash, Mitt Romney is not a Christian. He does not have that stain. He is a liar, though:


    August 22, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
    • Jay

      I beg you pardon, Mormons do believe in Jesus Christ. He is also a gentleman and a very good man who is intelligent. Obama is the biggest liar in the history of our country. I pray for his soul every night.

      August 23, 2012 at 3:04 am |
    • Len

      But don't Mormons believe that Jesus was the brother of Lucifer? That's a stumbling block for most other Christians.

      August 23, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
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