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August 23rd, 2012
09:17 AM ET
Cardinal Dolan to offer closing prayer at Republican ConventionBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - Roman Catholic Cardinal Timothy Dolan, America’s highest-profile Catholic official, will deliver the closing prayer at next week’s Republican convention, in another sign of how important the Catholic vote is expected to be this year. The Archdiocese of New York confirmed Dolan’s role on Wednesday night, after it was reported by The Associated Press. News of Dolan's role initially came in an interview of presumed GOP nominee Mitt Romney by EWTN, a Catholic television network, which is scheduled to air Thursday night. Dolan is the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the church’s U.S. arm, and has been an outspoken critic of the Obama administration’s rule requiring insurance companies to grant employees no-cost contraception coverage. The Catholic Church opposes contraception and wants Catholic hospitals, colleges and other institutions to be exempt from the law. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter The bishops have also been critical of the Republican budget crafted by Rep. Paul Ryan, Romney's running mate. A spokesman for Dolan said convention protocol calls for the local bishop to deliver such a prayer, meaning the slot would have normally gone to a Florida bishop, but that the Republican convention’s organizers insisted on Dolan’s participation. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories “The Cardinal made it clear to the RNC (and to the Democratic National Committee as well) that he was only there to offer a prayer, not to engage in any partisan politics,” the spokesman, Joseph Zwilling, said in an e-mail, “and that he would be willing to accept a similar invitation from the DNC if they were to invite him to pray at their Convention as well.” Catholics are considered the quintessential swing vote, and no presidential candidate has won the White House without winning that bloc since at least the early 1990s. Millions of middle-of-the-road Catholic voters populate key swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. |
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Democratic Convention Agenda Just Released!
2012 Democratic National Convention Schedule –Charlotte , N.C.
4:00 PM – Opening Flag Burning Ceremony – sponsored by CNN
4:05 PM – Singing of "God Damn America " led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright
4:10 PM – Pledge of Allegiance to Obama.
4:15 PM – Ceremonial 'I hate America' led by Michelle Obama.
4:30 PM – Tips on “How to keep your man trustworthy & true to you while you travel the world” – Hillary Clinton
4:45 PM –Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson seminar “How to have a successful career without having a job.”
5:00 PM – “Great Vacations I’ve Taken on the Taxpayer’s Dime Travel Log” – Michelle Obama.
5:30 PM – Eliot Spitzer Speaks on "Family Values" via Satellite
5:45 PM – Tribute to All 57 States – Nancy Pelosi
6:00 PM – Sen. Harry Reid – 90-minute speech expressing the Democrat’s appreciation of the Occupy Wall Street movement, and George Soros for sparing no expense, for all that they have accomplished to unify the country, improve employment and to boost the economy.
8:30 PM – Airing of Grievances by the Clintons
9:00 PM – “Bias in Media – How we can make it work for you” Tutorial –sponsored by CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times
9:15 PM – Tribute Film to Brave Freedom Fighters incarcerated at GITMO– Michael Moore
9:45 PM – Personal Finance Seminar – Charlie Rangle
10:00 PM – Denunciation of Bitter Gun Owners and Bible readers.
10:30 PM – Ceremonial Waving of White Flag for IRAQ , & Afghanistan
11:00 PM – Obama Energy Plan Symposium / Tire Gauge Demonstration / You too can get rich with Green Investment bankruptcies
11:15 PM – Free Gov. Blagojevich rally
11:30 PM – Obama Accepts Oscar, Tony and Latin Grammy Awards
11:45 PM – Feeding of the Delegates with 5 Loaves and 2 Fish Obama Presiding
12:00 AM – Official Nomination of Obama by Bill Maher and Chris “He sends a thrill up my leg” Matthews
12:01 AM – Obama Accepts Nomination as Lord and Savior
12:05 AM – Celestial Choirs Sing
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark.
The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." – Plato
Post by 'Bill Deacon' is an instance of the ad hominem fallacy.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html
But it sure puts praying with the Cardinal into perspective doesn't it?
@Bill
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." – Plato
You do know that Plato was referring to the light of reason, right?
I am a left wing liberal Dem atheist, but this is pretty funny.
This is the faux schedule posted in 2008:
4:00 PM – Opening Flag Burning Ceremony
4:05 PM – Singing of "God Damn America" led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright
4:10 PM – Pledge of Allegiance to Obama
4:15 PM – Ceremonial Terrorist Fist-Jab led by Michelle Obama
4:30 PM – Tips on Dodging Sniper Fire – Hillary Clinton
4:45 PM – Jesse Jackson Leads Castrati Choir in Singing "Great Balls of Fire"
5:00 PM – UFO Abduction Survival Tips – Dennis Kucinich
5:15 PM – John Edwards Speaks on "Family Values" via Satellite from Hotel Bathroom
5:30 PM – Eliot Spitzer Speaks on "Family Values" via Satellite from Emperors VIP Club
5:45 PM – Tribute to All 57 States Obama Has Visited
6:00 PM – Joe Biden Delivers 100,000-Word Acceptance Speech Featuring a 23-Minute Question and 2-Hour Answer
8:30 PM – Airing of Grievances by the Clintons
8:45 PM – Hillary Clinton Releases Her Delegates and Flying Monkeys
9:00 PM – Bill Clinton Delivers Rousing Endorsement of Obama Girl
9:15 PM – Tribute Film to Freedom Fighters at Gitmo – Michael Moore
9:30 PM – Exclusive Panties-Optional Celebrity Party Hosted by Paris Hilton and Britney Spears
9:45 PM – Personal Finance Seminar – Congressman William "Cold Cash" Jefferson
10:00 PM – Denunciation of Bitter and Clingy Gun Owners
10:30 PM – Ceremonial Denial of Progress in Iraq and Waving of White Flag
11:00 PM – Obama Energy Plan Symposium/Tire Gauge Demonstration
11:15 PM – Free Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick Pep Rally
11:30 PM – Al Gore Accepts Tony and Latin Grammy Awards
11:45 PM – Feeding of the Delegates with 5 Loaves and 2 Fish – Obama Presiding
12:00 AM – Official Nomination of Obama via Text Message Sent by Scarlett Johansson
12:01 AM – Barack Obama Accepts Nomination for Lord and Savior
12:05 AM – Celestial Choirs Sing
3:00 AM – Hillary Clinton Delivers Acceptance Speech
Christard, I actually think yours is funnier. Huebert, yes I understand Plato. I also do not see a contradiction between reason and faith. To the contrary, I think faith and submission to God is the proper extension of reason. Can you tell me Huebert which social teachings of the Catholic Church you find to be unreasonable? Not the bigotted slander you may have heard but the actual catechisms.
@Bill
The prohibition on contraception, especially in the face of the AIDS epidemic in Africa. If catholic missionaries would teach that condoms can help stop the spread of AIDS they would save thousands, if not millions, of lives every year. But instead of teaching proven, effective, science missionaries teach that all contraception is immoral. That is absolutely repugnant.
@Bill Deacon – You say, "To the contrary, I think faith and submission to God is the proper extension of reason." But that's not the case if my God wants me to do immoral things, correct? If my God is totally different from the Judeo-Christian God? And who's going to confirm the voices/ commands given by 'God' for each individual?
It's far from reasonable, Bill.
The forbidding of any contraception, even to followers in AIDS-riddled countries in Africa, is nothing short of evil.
funny how someone that i would assume would laid claim to be a religious person would post such nonsense in the first place.
You really can't see the contradiction between reason and something that requires you to manipulate your own common sense into accepting something that your reasoning rejects? Well, that figures.
I guess someone has to standup for the 2% who do not use any form of contraception
You athiests are at it early today, huh William, cough, Scotty. Jesus said he would give you reprobate minds. I use my cats dead skins for towels. Notice who is most quoted in the Golden rule. Jesus Christ's wisdom.
Amen.
@HeavenSentSpooge. Carnel alert. Jeebus is cu.ming. hang on old girl. Don't spit now, it's throwing away the lards good works. Swallow the good stuff and be happy. But know this, your Jeebus, and your doG, have no meaning for us. Threats of fire, etc. are laughable, especially coming from you.
stop talking ure hurting yourself
So since Jesus happened onto some common sense folk wisdom, that means that he now owns the concept? Puleeze!
Why didn't Mitt get a Mormon person to do the prayers? Is he pretending to be Catholic now? Anyways, hopefully that hurricane keeps on track to Tampa.
As long as it doesn't hit Davie and upset the Dolphins training camp.
Oh, and the Dolphins are starting Tannehill against the ATL tomorrow. Should be good!
Gilgoff is mirroning the bad journalism of others when he leaves out the fact that the HHS regulation requires coverage for sterilization and abortion-inducing pills, and only mentions contraceptives. It would have been good if Gilgoff had listened to CNN's Howard Kurtz's attack on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell for violating journalistic ethics for becoming an activist in the case of the Komen Foundation and eventually successfully bullied it into restoring money to Planned Parenthood and forcing out some of its executives. Mitchell followed that with switching the HHS story from its true nature as a story about religious persecution to a story about a falsely alleged "war on women." It was insulting to see Liza Wagner crowing recently about the Komen resignations. Gilgoff could have continued to show up MSNBC by including sterilization and abortion-inducing pills. Instead he dragged down CNN a little by his omission that is also a kind of failure in journalistic ethics. This kind of reporting makes it more of a Disbelief Blog.
Hey Pin Head.
It is a belief blog.
We believe Christians are simpletons, who are part of a cult no better than the Manson Family.
Granted more believe your position than mine, but the tide is changing, so just keep protecting the priests who bugger little boys, and before you know it, your faith will have gone the way of Zoroastrianisim.
And we believe as psalm 19 says
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
please explain to me how trying to prevent you from using the power of government to force me to live by your religious convictions threatens your religious freedom.
for your information, "freedom of religion" also includes "freedom from religion" and most especially "freedom from the restrictions of a religion you don't happen to hold"
it's not all about you. others have rights too.
@Eric, do you also believe the verse in the New Testament that says that calling someone a fool is an unforgivable sin? Must keep you up at night thinking about the contradictions.
steven harnack
WHAT? there is no such verse... either you are lying through your teeth or are grossly missinformed. There is only 1 unforgivable sin and that is to blaspheme against the hols spirit
Good place for the highest ranking member of a corrupt child molesting cult to give his "blessings."
The fact that a few ho mo se xuals lied their way into the clergy to ply their evil desires should in no way reflect badly on the insti tution of the church. That is like saying the bank is responsible for bank robbers.
Amen to that.
truth be told
Simpleton nonesense.
The church actively recruited gays and other deviants for the clergy for over a century.
If a zealot family had a son who was feminine, the church pressured them heavily to make them a preacher.
Your lack of understanding of this means either you are a child, or in severe denial.
The fact of the matter is that not may Catholics really cares any more what the high ranking Catholic bishops/archbishops/cardinals say. They think of those guys and the Catholic Church as a whole as traitors of the faithful, especially of the most vulnerable children. They not only failed to protect but intentionally refused to protect the most innocent among the faithful, essentially allowing the murder of children's souls for decades. To the most Catholics, whatever they say now against abortion simply sounds political and does not sound at all sincere. The Church has lost credibility.
+1
The Catholic Church is supposed to be infallible. I don't understand how it let these terrible hom0s3xuals slip through the cracks.
I thought you bigots claimed the Church was anti-gay. Now you're claiming that they take gays in as clergy? You can't have it both ways. Besides what does orientation have to do with pedophilia?
William Demuth
Please cite evidence
J.W. Please tell me you are not that ignorant on the doctrine of infallibility. If you are then do some reading. If you're just being purposefully moronic, well, I guess that is your prerogative.
Post by 'Bill Deacon' is an instance of the Begging The Question fallacy with ad hominem elements.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.htm
My post was intended to be sarcastic. However I do think that many Catholics feel that the church is infallible.
According to Average American the Church has lost all credibility with the faithful. According to J.W. the congregation sees the Church as infallible. Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in between. But you guys go ahead and hate on the Church, we can take it. It's a blessing to us.
truth be told blabbed: "The fact that a few ho mo se xuals lied their way into the clergy to ply their evil desires should in no way reflect badly on the insti tution of the church. That is like saying the bank is responsible for bank robbers."
What? I don't think that most people think of bank robbers as people who work at the bank you tard. But in any event, it does reflect badly because it is the unnatural practice of celibacy and se'xual abstinence that will continue to be a problem between society and that wacko religion.
I think that Average American was referring to people outside of the church congregation.
@ tard.
UM what... there are quite a few robberies committed by employees.. thats where the term inside job came from.
Eric wrote: "@ tard.
UM what... there are quite a few robberies committed by employees.. thats where the term inside job came from."
why the heck do you think i said "that most people think of . ." it was a poor parallel by truth be told.
yeah, but the president of the bank isn't going to ship the thief off to another branch so that he can rob it. However, that is exactly what the Catholic Chruch did.
Guy
Ask ANYONE over 50 who is Italian or Irish.
Then ALSO note the instance of AIDS in RCC priests should be ZERO but is 2.2 times higher than the statistical norm
they do not want anything to do with the polygamist j, smith, besides, he is in another planet.
Just think the Catholic Church is now getting behind a cult. If I didn't know better I would say Jesus is turning over in his grave. I haven't heard a Catholic bishop ever state we should be going to war. Mormons=Cult. In 1828, eight years after he supposedly had been told by God himself to join no church, Smith applied for membership in a local Methodist church. Other members of his family had joined the Presbyterians. NOTES
Contemporaries of Smith consistently described him as something of a confidence man, whose chief source of income was hiring out to local farmers to help them find buried treasure by the use of folk magic and "seer stones." Smith was actually tried in 1826 on a charge of moneydigging. NOTES It is interesting that none of his critics seemed to be aware of his claim to have been visited by God in 1820, even though in his 1838 account he claimed that he had suffered "great persecution" for telling people of his vision.
The only persons who claimed to have actually seen the gold plates were eleven close friends of Smith (many of them related to each other). Their testimonies are printed in the front of every copy of the Book of Mormon. No disinterested third party was ever allowed to examine them. They were retrieved by the angel at some unrecorded point. Most of the witnesses later abandoned Smith and left his movement. Smith then called them "liars." A flim flam artist started their cult and we now have the consumate flim flam artist running for president. Ronald Reagan did this country a disservice by dumbing down America. Vote for the flim flam artist at your peril.
The Catholic Church isn't getting behind any cult. The Bishop is offering an invocation for a gathering of people.
@Bill Deacon.......a gathering of deluded people. He's made his bed, and I'm sure he's happy to sleep in it!
very coincidental, SHARK WEEK during the r n c meeting of the 'turds.
Hey Mitt since you are so proud of your faith, why did you not pick a Mormon bishop for the final prayer? This man is as phony as a three dollar bill. Just pandering which everway the wind blows. His motto is as long as I can keep the lies going and say whatever to please the tea party wingnuts I have a good chance of getting them to vote for me. Such a hypocrit.
So let me get this straight. If Mitt makes a move in line with his religion then he is a Mormon zombie but if he includes other faiths in his political tent then he is a false Mormon? Can you be any more hypocritical?
@Bill, it's called pandering, a.k.a "Lying for the Lord".
He will say: Father forgive the imbeciles in attendance because they do not know what they are doing.
This hypocritical Dolan pig who looks like a cross between a potbelly pig and a horse needs to start paying taxes like every citizen of this great country since he became a politican. This sweet Dolan guy with sugar in his tank should whether decide to be a politician or stay with the church. I never heard or see him doing any humanitarian duties as a so called christian. All he does is rub holders with who's who in American and with his fat self lives like a "prince". He is such big hypocrite, hiding behind his robes.
How do you know he doesn't pay taxes?
Tell me how you really feel about the Cardinal?
Ain't gonna stop the hurricane. Better bring some swimming trunks.
Conservative WASP RepubliCON must be going NUT now that the pope is running America 😉
In a cowardly move that is intended to continue the ruse that Romney is a Christian, the Republicans chose one of those strange celibate men a Roman Catholic priest (a Cardinal, no less) to shake the spirit-stick and cast the magic spells at the end of the convention. Remember, Romney has a history. Examine it closely. He was himself a sort of bishop among Mormons. He is by his own admission a Mormon. He is not a Christian. No, he is marred in other ways.
I love it when one cult of Christian religious nutters claim another cult of Christian nutters aren't really Christian.
I enjoy seeing one cult use pretzel logic to embrace another cult that they've rejected in the past.
Or... pot calling kettle?
Depending on what he actually says he could jeopardize the Catholic Church's Tax Exempt status. I think the Papal Nuncio would be well served to make sure Dolan self censors whatever he plans on saying.
Conventional Irony Abounds...
http://thedeathofirony.com/2012/08/22/conventional-irony/
Prayer changes things
Damn straight Romney/ Ryan in 2012
k thnx
So who are you praying will win the election?
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs .
Truth is never trolling
Sometimes true but this was not a universal truth.
There, Jesus himself, told you!
I bet they catch him nuts deep in an intern.
I am often alarmed by fiscal choices made in the US, but when the so called "more conservative" party is really just a cult, what's a man to do?
We need REAL alternatives to the pair of non choices we are being offered. They are really just slightly smudged images of the same side of the same coin.
the Republican convention’s organizers insisted on Dolan’s participation
Bow to pressure much Oh Robed Once?
Well? What's the DNC waiting for?? Invite him to pray @ the democratic national convention.
Cast demons into a herd of swine?
Ron, HAHA. Do you think they would all stampede over the cliff?
@Bill Deacon,
So now it's official, Cardinal Dolan will give the benediction for the DNC as well.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/23/cardinal-dolan-to-offer-closing-prayer-at-republican-convention/
They invited him and he accepted – just as his spokesman said he would. I'm surprised the DNC did invite him, but it just goes to show how important Catholic votes in PA and OH will be this November.
What say you?
Ooops – wrong link in the post above:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/28/dolan-to-pray-at-democratic-national-convention/