August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationism
By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
(CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children."
"Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times.
Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."
"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.
Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible.
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In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days.
For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.
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The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.
During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.
Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins
"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video.
"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.
Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology.
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In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood.
The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.
"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.
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Creationists are good candidates for the "B" ark.
Please read The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution, by Richard Dawkins. Unless, you only read the bible.
Is it worth reading? I normally don't like Dawkins because I find him to be to bombastic and inflammatory.
I agree 100%. It never ceases to amaze me how many people can look at all the evidence for evolution and insist that none exists. I suspect it's because people who believe in creationism never, ever read anything that might counter their beliefs. Many of them don't even watch The Discovery Channel because it treats evolution as fact.
Whether you believe creationism or evolution, I find it interesting that Bill Nye would claim that Christians in the US believe differently from Christians in other nations. Are we to believe that Catholics in Italy believe more in evolution than Catholics in the US believe? Can it be true, as Bill Nye is claiming, that members of the same Christian faiths in other countries are less likely to accept their teachings about creationism than their counterparts in the US? Don't all Catholics world wide teach "creation from nothing" (ex nihilo) for example? Again, not supporting one belief over the other. I just find it odd that it is being claimed that US Christians believe so differently from Christians in other nations that are members of the same faiths. And of course Jews also believe, or at least teach, creationism as claimed in Genesis as well. Don't Jews in Israel believe the same as Jews in the US?
Bill Nye is correct. Christians in other countries, except England, do not have any problems understanding and knowing that evolution is not a theory but fact.
being a creationist also means that you are somehow incapable of being an engineer, mathematician, businessmen, or anyone useful in society. Didn't know it was that important.
Also didn't realize that an outsider can somehow dictate/have an opinion on how someone else's child is raised.
5-10 years ago atheists asked christians to stay out of their noses. It's time they start doing what they ask of others.
Bill Nye is absolutely correct; it's well-known that "Creationism" and a belief in the biblical account of Creation as literally true is primarily a US phenomenon. Certainly you can find people outside the US to believe this craziness, but not many. Yep, there are many, many Christians outside the US, but most understand that bible stories from the so-called Old Testament are primarily allegory, not literal truth.
I'm pretty sure that Catholics believe in evolution. I went to Catholic school 40 years ago and we were taught at that time in evolution and that the story of Adam and Eve was made up (like a parable) to teach, but wasn't actually true. If I'm not mistaken, they still believe in evolution.
And actually the Catholic church is, I think, the one Christian sect that has come out and explicitly stated the evolution does not conflict with the Catholic faith, or something to that effect.
Hey @apparently – feel free to stop supporting legislation based on biblical stuff, and we'll stay out of your hair. Until then, expect to be climbed like a tree.
Take a stand you sissy – and Christians being all the same? HAHAH there are about 38,000 different Christian denominations or sects. I hate religion and reason why is b/c I know more about religion than the avg person. Once you actually LEARN and Research religion – you'll see why religion is one giant pile of holy sht
Sally: not only do Catholics believe in evolution, they believe in aliens, that is, nonterrestrial intelligence, something that will shake the biblical literalists to their very cores when we finally encounter them. The Vatican has an observatory and a number of astronmers working at that observatory, and they have flat out said that Creationism and "intelligent design" are bad theology (not just bad science). In 2008, the Vatican's official newspaper discussed the possibility that the universe could contain intelligent life beyond Earth, and that aliens would be "our brothers" and "children of God" as much as human beings are. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants to the creationism advocates?
The Pope's astronomer, José Gabriel Funes, a Jesuit priest, told L'Osservatore Romano that there would be nothing surprising about the existence of intelligent extra-terrestrials.
Creationism has not been the dominant belief in American Christianity for many years until the rise of the Evangelical movement. Catholic schools do not teach Creationism. Mainstream Christianity has not taught Creationism. The phenomenon of rising creationist belief is recent and disturbing to both the scientific and educational communities. Israeli Jews have a much better grasp of science than the average American. Shocking, isn't it? The so-called "greatest country in the world" is slipping into the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages were the result of a church that allowed no individual interpretation of the word of God, a church that dictated truth. The same practice is taking place in churches all over this country.
Evolution is a scientific theory. The principle difference that most people don't understand though is that "scientific theory" means that it's a hypothesis that's been repeatedly tested and supported with multiple pieces of evidence through many different trials and approaches. Science is constantly in motion as we strive to fill the gaps in our knowledge and understanding, and the scientific method leaves nothing off the chopping block for further refinement and alteration to fit the mounting evidence about how the world works around us. To that degree, evolution is a theory and may very well be refined from it's current state if some new evidence is presented in the future and cannot be taken as absolute fact in it's current form. That's the beauty of science, it's self-correcting and always improving. Then again, for the average American, I guess it's easier to think of it as a fact rather than trying to correct the years of awful teaching that left this thorough understanding of science unaddressed.
Mr. Nye, the odds of the over four hundred prophesies concerning the Christ coming true still give you no faith? It woulkd be as if the whole world were covered in 3 feet of silver coins and you, w/ one try, pulling out the lone gold coin!!! Your scientific method can't replace those kind of odds sir!, Keep your tiny opinion to yourself!!!
What 400 prophecies? Ones in the same exact book? There isn't a lot of corroborating evidence in other historical texts to confirm these 400 things, so don't take one account as fact.
Liberals.......always telling other people how to live their lives.
You're right. Odds are over the centuries, those four hundred prophecies would come true somehow, if not abstractly. Then taken as fact or proof some type of higher being exist.
The fact that this debate is even taking place proves that Bill Nye is correct.
Religion should be a non-factor. And there are far too many people in this country who support this foolishness. Its cute when children hear these stories, but when you're an adult, its time to grow up, live in the real world, and actually contribute something. Passing along "biblical truth" to your children is a detriment to the future of our society.
Stop Hurting America.
You are correct: Passing along "biblical truth" to your children is a detriment to the future of our society.
What I find so disturbing is that the metaphorical stories provided by the Bible provide so much fodder for intellectual exploration, but they are being read as if by 5 year olds. The Garden of Eden story, for instance, opens a whole potential discussion for the responsibility involved in the act of eating - the necessity of taking life in order to live - and how that act should then be approached. It offers interesting comparisons to the beliefs of other pre-Christian societies as to the difference between a human being and a god and the limitations and potential provided in the expulsion from the Garden and into Life. The "days" of the Creation provide space in which to wonder at the vast changes the Earth had to go through in order to arrive at its current state. Wonder is deductive, not reductive.
I like Bill Nye's science shows but he cannot decide what everyone else should teach their children any more then they can tell him what to teach his children. He has concluded that because he thinks evolution could have happened that it definitely did happen the way they think it did. Bill Nye could have landed here on earth in a space craft from another planet. I doubt that is what happened, it is just a theory. But if we can get enough scientists to think it is true then it IS true.
Your post clearly displays that you do not understand scientific theory. It's not simply an IDEA (wow - Bill Nye might have landed from another planet) unsubstantiated by fact. Scientific hypothesis must be proven by experimentation that provides multiple proofs of its fact. Your IDEA has not been tested nor proven and is simply an IDEA, not a hypothesis.
So evolution is a fact? Then I shall look for a book explaining how evolution is known and observed by people who did not exist when it occurred. IMHO it is a best guess on the evidence that has been found so far.
For many Christians to accept evolution and reject creation hits at things much deeper than the question of origin. The story of creation is told in Genesis but is also referenced throughout the Bible as evidence of God's power. To accept evolution is asking a Christian to not only remove God from the picture but is asking them to deny the power of God. It goes against what the Bible says about us being created in the image of God, and in the Bible we are called children of God. It also hits at a the Biblical account of Satan's fall from heaven, the introduction of sin to earth through the temptation of Eve, the effect of that sin being the introduction of death and God's plan for saving humans from death by sending his son to die for our sins. Evolution isn't possible without death long before humans arrival. To accept evolution wipes out the whole big picture of why we are here and where we are going. To someone who doesn't believe in God, this is no big deal, but to a Christian, this is completely goes against what the Bible says. Christianity and evolution are in direct odds with each other. However, Christianity and science are not at odds unless the science refuses account for the evidence of God. I am a Christian, I believe that God was powerful enough to create the earth in six days. I see evidence of God all through science as I believe that he set up the rules that govern science. Evolution, despite how it is often presented, is not an absolute fact. It still takes faith in something that you didn't personally witness to believe. To believe in creation also takes faith, to believe in the Biblical account that I wasn't personally there to witness. I could go on and on. But basically, if I have to choose between what man says and what God says, I have to go with God.
So you ignore facts because they aren't consistent with your fantasy?
there is no reason to believe the veracity of the bible other than someone else told you you should.
Evolution doesn't disprove God just like a wrench doesnt disprove the mechanic. We don't know how God does what he does so lets not let it bother our spirit.
I respect your opinion, but your theology is not consistent with what mainstream Christianity has believed in the last century. Excepting the fundamentalist denominations, Biblical theologians and scholars have long recognized the early primal narratives in the book of Genesis to be mythic in nature portraying collective humanity in its origins. But that is not to say that they do not contain Biblical truth ... but that truth is theological, not historical. The Bible in total was not written to be a 'history' book, although it certainly contains historical accounts, but it is instead God's inspired word of his relation to the world he created (through the physical laws of the universe). None of that refutes or diminishes humankind's fall into sin, the story of early Israel's history, the incarnation of Christ, or God's power in this world. If you hold to an inerrant/literal view of scripture, you create huge problems for your faith in reconciling certain inconsistences. You don't need science to "account for the evidence of God" in being a Christian ... instead, listen to God's word as it speaks to your heart and nourishes your spiritually in your faith, but don't depend on a science textbook for that. Let science explain what it should, but just let scripture tell you what it should. Your faith will be deeper and stronger for it. Peace!
Again the FLU is unquestionable proof of evolution. Just because evolution ruins your book doesn't mean it's not real also if the Bible was so complete then how come it didn't produce the schematics for computers or automobiles? at least a basic Periodic Table of Elements? A Map of the Galaxy or even the Earth's Oceans and Waterways? Come on this book is supposed to be everything the Creator needs us to know... I have read the Bible it is not a field manual for life. It isn't a field manual period. It is a means for mankind to try and understand things it did not know. That doesn't mean God doesn't exist or that the people spoken of in the book were not alive, it just means you cannot take it any more literally than Grimm's Fairy Tales or Legends of King Arthur... So please for the love of God, grow up... When I was young I "believed" in Santa Claus, but when I grew up and understood, I "became" Santa Claus for my kids, nieces and nephews. The same with the Bible...
Obviously you have given this more thought than the run of the mill creationism believer, but what you have NOT explained is why you think that an understanding of evolution – and acceptance of the reality – the absolute fact, proven beyond any disagreement by rational people – that the Earth and the cosmos are well older than 6,000 years – is at odds with a belief in and acceptance of God. Plenty of Christians believe in evolution, including the original Christian church.
To believe as you do requires that you turn off your brain, learn and accept nothing of reality, and ignore the overwhelming geologic and deep time evidence. Why would God make you do that? I have a fundy brother who insists that either the devil put that "false evidence" in place, or that God put it there to test the faith of Christians. Among all the foolishness I have heard, that's god to be at the top of the list. Why would God do this, hmm? If God exists, what's the point of all these inconvenient facts? You really would rather believe the fantasies and parables of sheep herders from a few thousand years ago than reality? And your God makes you do that? Do you have any idea just how crazy that is?
(Oh, by the way, not only is the Earth older than 6,000 years, so is human civilization. Watch the Science channel once in a while. Question everything.)
How does evolution take away God's power? It actually enhances it by exploring the vast ability of life to adapt to the immense and wonderful physical changes in our planet. Evolution does not deny sin. Evolution has nothing to do with understanding human emotions or sociological explanations for how people live. Evolution shows the growth and advancement of life at its most miniscule. Evolution leaves the questions of morals and ethics to other non-scientific fields entirely. No one is telling you what to believe about Satan, sin, whatever. Evolution does not dictate that you cannot believe in God. Evolution is simply a fact-based explanation of HOW it all happened over time and is still happening, nor WHY - which it leaves totally up to your belief system.
well said emlaine.
There is no evidence at all that there is inter "evolution" among species. So monkey is monkey. It can be black monkey, white monkey or other colored monkey but it can never be a human being.
We cannot be self-denial saying that we come from a random chance existing with no purpose .
The stench of your ignorance is overwhelming.
Monkey can be black monkey.
Black monkey can be black monkey with less hair.
Black monkey with less hair can be black monkey with less hair that stands up straight.
Black monkey with less hair that stands up straight can be black monkey with less hair that stands up straight and is smarter.
Actually, not all mules are sterile. ThIs time-worn argument of anti-evolutionists notwithstanding, there can be procreation involving different species, and so can there be among their offspring. This was noted in THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES.
For a counter point, see Kirk Cameron. hahahahahahahaha
You do know that Kirk Cameron has a degree in molecular biology, right?
Kidding. I can't back that up with a logical source.
As a Mormon I know that Adam & Eve lived in Missouri after they were kicked out of the garden of eden becuase the talking snake was really the devil.
I know that Jesus and Joseph Smith are waiting for me near the star of Kolab to make me a God for doing
his work and give me my own universe to rule.
I know that wearing my sacred underwear 24/7 and not drinking coffee nor beer makes me a better person and protect me of all you heathens.
How in the world can you expect me to believe that we came from monkeys. I am can't wait till we have a Mormon President to fix everything!
Go Mitt Romney!!!
We didn't come from monkeys, you moron. Mormons are even more idiotic than the rest of the pious.
It's amazing how many stupid people reside in the 'states. I commend Bill for coming out and saying it. The problem is, trying to convince people of religion that all religion was created by man himself, just doesn't compute. A lot of people are too scared to simply ask their own questions, and come to their own conclusions. They want to be led around on the hopes and promises of some glorious afterlife. Until humans evolve beyond the need for religion, you're wasting your time.
And letting Bill Nye or a THEORY govern your way of thinking is completely different? In what way?
Um, let's see here....the theory of evolution is based on factual data observed over time. What is Noah's Ark based on? You can't really look at yourself in the mirror and accept that, can you? Use your ability to reason to ask yourself some tough questions. Hell, you might even come to a different understanding of the universe. But more than likely, that's too far beyond the reach of most people (yourself included given your reply).
Again evolution is a theory. If it is a law, as so many pro-evolution seems to think by having supporting evidence though incomplete, it would be happening everyday. You don't doubt that if you fall from the top of a building you will hit the ground, because law of gravity governs our lives. You eat when you are hungry, because of the law of thermodynamics. These things happen EVERYDAY of human lives. If evolution is a law, as so many seems to accept, you would see apes evolving into human beings since beginning of human history and everyday of our lives. Obviously, we don't see those things happening around us. If you really take a step back, you'll see that Evolutionists are doing exactly what Christians have done.
Hey Jason, what about "electronics theory"? .... Yup, that's what it's called., you know that computer you're typing on? I guess that's just a theory, not law? You obviously don't understand what a scientific thery actually is.
Must answer even 4 days afterward to prevent your views from infecting anyone else Jason.
1) the Law of gravity is a mathematical equation that dictates how an object acted upon by the gravity of another object will accelerate given no other forces.
2) the Theory of gravity is the scientific explanation for why you will fall when you step off of a building.
There are no scientific Laws, only Theories. Mathematics can have laws because you can prove that a certain equation or method will always work. There are also mathematical theories such as the pythagorean theorm that we take as true because they have never been proven false. They have also never met the criteria to become a law (or people get so used to calling something a theory that switching for law is too weird 🙂 ).
Science cannot have Laws because you can never prove through an experiment that something will happen a specific way every single time. You can get fairly close however and that is when you have a scientific theory. That evolution is a theory means that it has never been repeatably disproven while at the same time evidence has been built that supports it.
Bill Nye: He might not believe in creationism, but he sure did create 127 pages of butthurt replies.
The most typical response from those who dont believe in evolution is something to the effect of looking at the complexity of life and determining that it cannot happen by random chance. To those who think that: If God is complex enough to create life, then how did He come to exist? He must have a designer, by your own logic. And His designer must have a designer, and so on. At some point you must conclude someone or something has always existed, without a designer, thus going against your inital thought. That arguement holds no water, whatsoever. Sorry.
God has always been... He is the beginning and the end, Alpha and Omega. If one believes, as I do, that the bible account of creation is how it happened then they should believe the whole bible. The bible is the infallible God inspired word of God. There is no argument to contest it.
responder, if that's the case, then you've got some pretty nasty violence to do, to follow those "infallible" instructions from your god in his book of nasty AKA the bible. Here you go, from both OT and NT, from the Christian book of gore and idiocy:
17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”
Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.
Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.
And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.
So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.
Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement. Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
The human race has evolved to be the greatest life form that has ever existed on planet Earth and it did it with a great faith in God and the teachings of the bible. Throughout the past several thousand years humans have built amazing machines, sailed the oceans, reached the lowest and highest points on the planet, traveled to the moon, landed probes on planets and asteroids, etc...
So, Nye says, "We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems." That's brilliant because how could we ever get to where we are today with a strong faith in God and His teachings?
So what of the development of our species prior to the appearance of the Biblical mythologies?
What of all the scientists who had their discoveries branded heresy becuase they conflicted with The Truth as presented by clergy?
Humans have evolved very little since the advent of organized religion and collective learning. You obviously have no idea how evolution works.
Are you trying to reason with this person?? Haven't you learned yet that critical thinking and faith are like oil and water....??
"That's brilliant because how could we ever get to where we are today with a strong faith in God and His teachings?"
I don't know. Ask the Chinese because they are a majority atheist state and they are kicking our @ss economically.
The Romans and Greeks seemed to do quite well without your God.
@I do believe,
Throughout the past several thousand years, we have also murdered innocents, spread blood, hunted and killed witches, subdued the rights of our women and minority groups, practiced religious intolerance and bigotry. And ALL OF THIS IN THE NAME OF GOD.
Now did they built amazing machines, medical treatments, airplanes.... in the name of God.
The beauty is that we have managed to survive despite religion.
Many of those achievements came (and continue to come) from cultures that don't follow your deity – including the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Indians, Sumerians, and on and on.
They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
By "relying" on a strong faith in God and his teachings... we get to be as advanced as Afghanistan. God didn't invent the light bulb, the tooth brush, the x ray machine, steel, the combustion engine etc. None of those things came to be by sitting around and relying on God to enlighten us. In fact many of our early advancements came from those who chose reason over religion.
The Chinees did not start "kicking" our butt until after America began running after Idols and turning away from God. That is your take away for the day.
Sorry, many great scientists were believers and even today 40% believe.
"People cited violation of the First Amendment when a New Jersey schoolteacher asserted that evolution and the Big Bang are not scientific and that Noah's ark carried dinosaurs. This case in not about the need to separate church and state; it's about the need to separate ignorant, scientifically illiterate people from the ranks of teachers." -Neil deGrasse Tyson
I want to know why I see so many religious types saying that our country is going down the drain due to lack of religion in society (classrooms, public buildings, etc)....??
There have been numerous studies done that suggest that countries with lower levels of religiosity tend to have:
1.) Higher education levels (and better scores in primary education)
2.) Higher incomes / standards of living (probably from being better educated)
3.) Lower levels of crime
So tell me why this trend towards secularism is a bad thing...??
Which countries are you stating as your evidence as "successful" without religion?
Our country was founded on the biblical values we had christian leaders , we had prayer in our public schools now we have hatred no love. if our founding fathers knew this was going to happen to our country they would be turning in their graves our country is going down the tubes becasue we have no christian values anymore.Please pray for our country !
First I just want to know why there are so many DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS TYPES?
Then the rest.
No Christian values? Do you not see that all forms of government and schools are closed for Christian holidays? What do you want? Religious teachings in all schools? Everyone to submit to the teachings of the bible? There's a corner of the world for people like you called the middle east.
And yet most of the founding fathers of your country denied the divinity of your own religion. Ever read about Jefferson Bible?
I once was a troll.... then over millions of years I evolved into a more sophisticated troll who could read and write really well and I began to patrol the internet world with great joy 🙂
Aren't you glad that William Shatner created the internet?
Thanks for the much needed comical relief.
You're welcome. Internet arguments of God vs. no God, evolution vs. creationism, boxers vs briefs... they all make my head hurt. And yes, I'm glad that William guy invented such a thing... otherwise I'd have to step outside my house and talk to people in real life and patrol the streets or coffee houses or something. sheesh, no way i'd ever do that!
Humans have been battling a most insidious disease since we first tracked the stars. Religion is an intellectual disease that has attacked our race from day one, and slowly but surely we are finding a cure. The numbers of admitted anti-theists will rise over the years and let us all hope that one day, maybe one day, we will become the majority. Only then will our race truly begin to evolve as we were supposed to, as Nietzsche pointed out a century ago.
Much truth that John, but still, evolution is NOT a viable answer, childish, and silly, credulity in its highest or lowest form. Just another religion, Show me an evolutionist and I will show you a virgin.
You are quite frankly an idiot if you don't believe in evolution. No way around it. Off yourself to spare us.
@john spoken like a true crusader! Go get em' zealot. Sounds like religion to me....
Anyone hear that thinks that evolution is just A THEORY. Go to the top of the building you are in and jump off the roof. Don't worry, though, because GRAVITY is just A THEORY.
Excuse me, it is the LAW of gravity and the THEORY of evolution. A big reason that darwinism is only theoretical is their lack of being able to explain the precambrian explosion. No worries, Darwin himself saw it as a MAJOR stumbling block to his hypothesis and had NO explanation either.
Given that you know that gravity is a scientific theory, wouldn't that mean that the scientific theory of evolution be as correct in the hypothesis?
Yeah, but gravity is a *nice* theory - it doesn't contradict the Bible. And the Bible is the ultimate source of all science.
Actually, Gravity is a Law not a theory!
For the umpteenth time – the Theory of Evolution is comprised of 5 laws.
Theories do not graduate into laws.
noel: your use of "Law" versus "Theory" is logically flawed. Gravity is PART of the THEORY of Mechanics put forth by Newton. Like Evolution, Mechanics (acceleration, friction, torque) is just a theory. And like Evolution, the Theory of Mechanics has been supplanted by more complex and more accurate theories (in the case of Mechanics, both Quantum Mechanics and Relativity have arisen to deal with its flaws; in the case of Evolution, the technical theories - such as gene borrowing and virus-guided genetic drift - do not have catchy names).
I know this is technical, but the take-away is that Evolution is no more unproven than the model that explains how objects fall (Gravity). Both are established scientific fact.
Congratulations Mr. Nye, mission accomplished, your PR and marketing people were on target, PERFECT time to take advantage of the disenfranchised mob.
Still, Bible aside, evolution is a silly unprovable fairy tale...credulity at its best or worst, depending on your position.
Gravity is no theory! Last time I checked they were called The Laws of Gravity.
Noel wrote, " Excuse me, it is the LAW of gravity and the THEORY of evolution. "
No. Evolution and gravity are both fact and theory. Theories never get promoted to fact or law. Theories exist to explain sets of facts and laws.
Newton's law of gravitational attraction F=G(m1*m2)/r^2 allows you to calculate a force of attraction between 2 objects with mass at a distance. But this law does absolutely nothing to explain why mass attracts mass. For that you need the theory of gravity.
(My "Amen" was in response to Piggie, whom I completely agree with)
Evolution is a FACT, it really happened and has been happening. We can very accurately know what happened centuries and geological ages ago from our current knowledge of phyisics, chemistry, paleoclimatology, paleogeology and many other science fields, the amount of evidence is definitely feasible. The knowledge we have today can't be compared to ancient harmful and ignorant myths, although I admit that being ignorant must feel very comfortable for some and I think people are free and have the right to be stupid, but no one has the right to make it sound as though their personal nonsense is the universal and inflexible truth. You want to live in a comfortable ignorant bubble, fine, be happy, just don't mess up with schools and young curious minds craving to learn.
Bible and creationism aside, show me an evolutionist and I will show you a virgin...evolution is credulity at its best or worst.
NOT a viable option people, just silly.
High time to put the bible and other fairy tales aside, or at least present them as such.
WOuld you please list the qualifications that privilege you to make such an assessment?
your opinion is based on what evidence?
Just because you knock up all the 13 year olds at your church's sunday school doesn't mean people with brains aren't getting any. Have fun, athiests are a growing number. Y'all want a Mormon for president.
Thanks for your input, professor.
Evolution is an incredibly elegant theory. It contains no as.sumptions and can provide evidence for every prediction it makes. It has been stringently examined for over 100 years and due to this intense scrutiny has become one of the most supported theories in all of science.
As to your statement that all evolutionist are virgins all I have to say is, really? Go back to school kid.
@633. "Tis better to lite (up) a buybull than to curse the darkness that it causes.
Huebert, evolution is elegant? Oh, now I am a believer, I thought Jackie Kennedy to be elegant as well.
Still, Bible and creation aside, evolution is NOT elegant, but its very description and explanation it is clumsy at best.
ONLY the lazy and uneducated fall for that nonsense.
Show me an evolutionist and I will show you a virgin. Got it yet?