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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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While bill Nye seems to be a very friendly person, is he really suggesting that based on his say so, about 250 Million Americans stop believing in religion? Or that that billions of people world wide should? There is zero proof for evolution. For many decades scientists have been doing research on flys (because of the short life cycle) trying to get them to mutate. However no matter what they do to them, radiation, heat, cold, starvation, etc.... A fly always is a fly. The genes never change it into another species. Maybe your fly is disformed and missing a wing or a leg etc., but it is always a fly. Evolution is an ignorant theroy for those who refuse to believe there is a God. The problem with so many scientists (certainly not all) is that they need to understand how something happened or why something is. There are many leading scientists who have tried to disprove creation and have jumped ship on evolution. The reality is that over time there is more and more evidence that the Bible is the truth.
There are multiple things wrong in your post; the one that struck me first, and which entirely invalidates the rest of your argument, is the claim that there is "zero proof" of evolution. Ever heard of fruit flies?
Jason: Where is the evidence to back your fallacious claim that the buybull is being proven true? If it hasn't been proven true thus far, it never will be. Going back to school next week? Request extra help with your Grade 4 science class, then come and speak to the adults after you have gained some knowledge!
Zero proof of evolution? Are you blindly assuming there is zero proof of evolution because it fits neatly in to your worldview? With A LITTLE bit of self-investigation (not from religious publications, but peer-reviewed scientific studies) you will find entire libraries full of evidence.
Why do you need a different flu shot every year? How is it that we can closely follow the evolutionary trail just by looking at DNA? What more evidence do you need?
"The reality is that over time there is more and more evidence that the Bible is the truth."
Oh my. Thank you for demonstrating exactly what Mr. Nye was saying when he said this type of thinking holds us back!
Fruit flies are not proof for evolution, whatsoever. If you claim this, then you demonstrate to not know what evolution is to begin with.
Evolution is not a fact, it is a presupposition that the scientific community dictates as fact to the exclusion of all else.
In short, a farce.
"Are you blindly assuming there is zero proof of evolution because it fits neatly in to your worldview?"
There is zero evidence that can demonstrate the mythical processes that are dictated by evolution to be true via a narrative of universal common ancestry. I think you are confused as to who is the one that needs to do a little self investigation.
"Where is the evidence to back your fallacious claim that the buybull is being proven true?"
I would advise you to not comment on things you are clueless about, it'll do you good – seeing how you will not fool yourself into believing you are saying something significant, when you aren't.
Your pointless and unintelligent objections do not change anything, you should really aim to try harder.
You're living in a fantasy world Jason and you're completely ignorant of science. Unfortunately, you probably will never come out of it because it would be too painful to actually learn and be open to something that doesn't support your beliefs. This the delusion and mental illness of religion.
It takes thousands or millions of generations for one species to evolve into another. During our lifetime, "a fly will always be a fly". Want to see human evolution in action? How come very few northern Europeans are not lactose intolerant like most other people? Because babies with the gene that allowed them to digest non-human milk had higher rates of survival over thousands of years in that harsh environment. How come those same people have fair skin? Because it absorbs sunlight better, which is required for the processing of vitamin D. Genetic differences that are advantageous to the survival of the species have a higher rate of survival and reproduction, and over eons of time, through geographic isolation and genetic draft, new species arise from the old. Evolution will always be a theory in the strict scientific sense because it occurs by random events (genetic mutations), not predictable, repeatable laws (gravity).
Creationism is mythology.
"The problem with so many scientists (certainly not all) is that they need to understand how something happened or why something is. "
er, because that is what science is? what did you think it was about? any scientist that isnt trying to discover and understand how or why something happened isnt a scientist.
'There are many leading scientists who have tried to disprove creation and have jumped ship on evolution"
such as?
Here's my take. I am very spiritual and I do believe in and love God. I don't believe God created the Earth as we know it today in 7 days. I do believe that God created concept and the idea to have a Heaven and Earth by granting everything to have free will and set everything in motion as he allowed time to do so, because I think without time nothing that we know it really exist, and Carbon Datings would say otherwise.
I wonder if 2000 years from now, there will be a religion touting Harry Potter as the messiah. 2000 years from now, who's to say that JK Rowling didn't directly talk to God? Tell me how that analogy is different from your Bible. Creationists= brainwashed, non-objective people who have never taken a university level general biology class.
You are so correct. I don't understand how some ignore the facts. Yes- the evolution of humans may have some missing pieces but to think it's not real is ridiculous. We've seen evoltion at work in our own llifetimes. The rise of antibiotic bacteria is proof. To believe in creationism and deny the scientific facts, as Nye put it, does indeed hold us all back.
I believe in Evolution and that it took billions of years to form the Earth. I also believe in a Supreme Creator. I am a person of Faith who loves Science: Astronomy, Geology, Meteorology, Anthropology. Why can't people believe in God AND believe in Science. God is the supreme scientist, Bill Nye in the Sky.
I don't get religious people that don't support Science and I don't like Scientists that shut themselves off from the unseen and the spiritual. Can't we just all get along??
What you say completely opposes creationism. You're basically just making up your own story.
@derp
A person CAN belive in both God and the theory of evolution.. I too believe that God or another supreme being put things into motion.. Once set in motion though, he stood back and watched it unfold.. No I do not believe in a litteral 6, 24 hour time frame.. I know from Science that the time of a day is constantly changing..
'A person CAN belive in both God and the theory of evolution.. I too believe that God or another supreme being put things into motion.. Once set in motion though, he stood back and watched it unfold.. '
so you believe the story of adam and eve is nonsense then? there was no garden of eden, no falling of man etc? you cant believe both.
I'm a little confused. I thought Mormons believed in many gods and that Jehovah is one of many who guide humanity, but is not actually the Supreme Being, meaning the total creator of all things. Isn't Jehovah just an evolved being whose lineage was like our own?
you can't even get everyone to agree on what they disagree on. Also, people spout what they know without listening to others' idea's. You can't learn when your mouth is open and your mind is closed. I read many posts here. Most of them have merit. But individually they are such small pieces of the collective truth.
Prayer changes things.
Maybe, maybe not; but your comment is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
@ w
nope
nope: YEP
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs! ` ~
God is still creating...
Creating what? Is Santa creating also?
he is? why hasnt he finished yet?, hes god after all.
Obviously some refuse to evolve and they will need God's blessing no doubt. Creationism=If you don't like years and years of research just make something up and call it FACT. To me one of the most amazing things about life is the similarity in the early stages of oh say, human,horse,dog,etc. There are great similarities and as the development occurs we each branch off into our own particular species at a certain point. DNA the root structure is the basis of life and variations. Not make believe with no credible evidence of anything to back it up. Bunch of Dr. Banjo's (humor reference to Futurama), and they built a museum, OMG. Or I should say OTG, Oh Their God. Good luck people, some should be told, HEY YOU! OUT OF THE GENE POOL!
The text in the Bible is very abstract – It is hard to understand at times, but you cannot just say that it is all "not true" based on your interpretation. The books of the Bible were written to transcend thousands of years, and still try to get the message accross – Now tell me, how would you write a book NOW, which would be read for thousands of years, trying to pass on the message you want? I really want to read your book 2000 years for now and see how it sounds...
So it does not mean it has pertinence outside of being considered a history book. It does not mean there was ever divine intervention of any form.
So God wasn't smart enough to make it transcend time? Wow..not much of an Omnipotent being is he. Try again theist.
so what message is the song of solomon trying to convey?
Dear Creationist: When intelligent people 'agree' that your argument has merit, they are simply being nice. They are being nice because they feel sorry for you. It is not PC to laugh off creationism the way it should be.
That is EXACTLY how I feel about evolutionists – I just look at them politely and try not to laugh at how massively idiotic they are!
Keep laughing, Gal. How anyone can be a creationist is pretty hilarious to me. Backward, ignorant, and blind.
I do the same StatsGal – These people think they have all figured out...
Creationism means believing in Adam and Eve and in turn believing in incest because the earth could not have been populated otherwise. There is evidence to support evolution, there is none to support creationism.
Tom, we decidedly do NOT have it "all figured out". That is why scientific exploration is so great; it is EVOLVING. Your backward way of thinking is going to be extinct someday, hopefully soon...
Just to make one thing clear. I will admit there is no "scientific" evidence that proves the existence of God. However, there is no "scientific" evidence to proove evolution. That is why they call it the evolutionay "THEORY".
So given that fact in order to believe in OR the other, you have to have what...?
FAITH!!!
There has been proof of evolution for decades...welcome to the 21st century......
@Don C
*sighs* ... Yet another one who doesn't understand the difference between a theory, scientific theory, faith, etc...
Mind-boggling ! 😯
Peace...
Evolution is a fact. Do your homework.
Uhh... you do realize there IS evidence that evolution exists?
Actually the reason a theory can be made a scientific theory is to be backed up by evidence. If theory where taken in it's literal regard then I agree with you, but that's not what a scientific theory is.
Gravity is also "only a theory" yet we don't all go flying off into space. Theory in science does not mean what you think it does.
The theory of evolution is based on direct analysis of physical evidence. Theocracy is based on studies of an old book or two written by philosophers and politicians in addition to stories handed down over generations with no real physical evidence to analyze. One is a scientific theory the other is religious faith.
OK, your rock is clean...you can go back under it.
Don, you're confusing the scientific definition of the word "Theory" with the colloquial defintion. They're two completely separate things.
Don, why do you quote "scientific" and "THEORY?"
After all, it is atomic theory that says water exists. Do you deny that water exists?
(Let's see if you have enough faith to answer direct questions.)
You understand neither the concept of scientific evidence nor how science advances by proposing theories and building cases for them. How can you say there is no scientific evidence for evolution? There is overwhelming evidence.
Creationists remind me of the character in Monty Python's Holy Grail who is trying the accused witch...
If "you just gotta believe" is your best argument than you have none.
It is not a "Theory" by which you think it is. Theory doesn't mean, we made something up based on something we made up. It is a scientific theory. A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of FACTS that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.". There is no evidence for creationism and does not have facts based on observation and experiment. Thank you and good day sir.
Plenty of "theories" are backed up with evidence (like the theory of gravity and the theory of relativity). And so is evolution. You simply choose to discount the evidence.
You misunderstand the word theory. In the scientific arena, a theory is a collection of facts.
So, yes, there is "proof" of evolution.
Dear Don – not sure why you conclude that there is not scientific evidence for evolution. All of evolution's findings are based on scientific evidence! I either miss what you are trying to say, or you miss the entire point of this conversation.
There is plenty of scientific evidence for evolution, including fossil records, DNA sequencing, geologic dating methods, etc. The fact that you choose not to believe in such evidence does not negate it. It just shows your ignorance regarding science.
There are many examples for evolution that can be chalked up to proof. Why do you think you get annual flu shots, God miracles a new strand of flu every year? It's because the flu evolves along with every little bugger you get inoculated for. This can't be denied or rationalized into something else, its just the way it is.
A scientific theory is vastly different than the common use of the word theory. A scientific theory has been rigorously tested, and must be repeatedly observed & verified. Your use of "theory" doesn't fit this scenario.
Here's what you just said: "I make up answers for things I don't know, rather than find out."
By the way, gravity is also a theory. They call them theories because they're always subject to being changed if more information comes in. If you think you're onto something with the word "theory", you're very, very, very wrong.
Don C- either you weren't paying attention during biology class, or you are just scientifically illiterate! There's a ton of evidence supporting the theory of evolution by natural selection, but not the least bit of evidence for creationism.
First, learn to spell. Second just because a scientific theory is not 'provable" to you doesn't mean the fall back 'proof' is 'faith'. If it is not true and all signs point to it being so, there are about a billion other possibilities before you get to use the ridiculous bible theorem. Ugh...it is frustrating to see people this ignorant who walk among us.
There are tons of evidence that supports evolution. And not the tiniest thread of evidence to support biblical creationism. Religion is a throwback designed to keep people ignorant. Funny how almost every religion you can name has some leader who claims to be gods mouth piece. What an insult to god..if there is one.
Actually there is plenty of proof out there advocating evolution. i.e. "The Origin of Species" written by Charles Darwin in the late 1800's, fossil records, etc.
Sigh. You have it backwards. Just because you say science=faith does not make you correct.
There is no *possible* scientific evidence that could *disprove* the existence of a supernatural being. There is a *huge* number of ways that the evidence could *disprove* the theory of evolution. None of those ways do disprove it. We will keep looking. We do not accept things on faith. We will continue to *test* the theory of evolution. That is the difference between science and faith.
A theory is not a fact, but is supported by facts. It cannot become fact itself, as our knowledge of science isn't complete and we find new ways to observe or experiment. Even scientific law can be broken. The benefit of such theories or laws, is that they scientists do not claim them to be truths.
Newton's law of universal gravitation. Superceded by Einstein's theory of general relativity.
Don C,
You are not understanding the definition of the term "theory". The usually way this word it used means at the most an educated guess. But it is different in science. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been REPEATEDLY confirmed through observation and experiment. It is what science used to call a law, such as the Law of Gravity. That term for how gravity works is still called a law only because it has become a part of everyday speech. it is actually Gravitational Theory. Science does not uses the term law anymore because it was always found that more could be added to a theory without changing the nature of the theory. This was seen with gravity after Einstein showed his Theory of Relativity. It added more to our knowledge of gravity and how it behaves but did not change everything else we had learned about it. Essentially a Law sounds like it is written in stone but a theory is written in stone but there is more space to add onto it on that rock.
Evolution is as true a "law" as the gravity you feel all about you.
Well stated Don C. I say the same exact thing. It always amazes me that creationist who does not subscribe to the theory of evolution are labeled "narrow-minded" and "religious nuts". But at the same time, evolutionists who do not subscribe to creationism are labeled "enlightened". Evolutionists weren't here billions of years ago to witness evolution as much as the creationist wasn't here to witness creation. Both are based upon faith and I'm going with the written word.
While there may not be enough physical "evidence" to satisfy all your requirements to prove evolution to you (I believe the line goes "there is none so blind as he who will not see"), you can not say there is "no evidence" to prove it. Yet it can be said there is no real evidence physical or otherwise to prove God's existence. That being said to be honest I believe in God but probably just not in the same format of existence that you do.
Evolutionist are not 'enlightened'. But they are pragmatic and can accept evidence that counters popular beliefs. Creationist are not 'narrow minded'. But they are stubborn to a fault and will hold onto beliefs in the front of contradicting evidence. No amount of evidence will ever sway a creationist because they irrational about it. What I truly distrust about creationist is that I suspect they bring that same irrationality into other areas of thought. Even ones that affect me directly.
"Both are based upon faith and I'm going with the written word."
you do that, personally I'm going with the scientists with the Phds, over stories written by stone age man.
Dude, I'm going to help you help yourself. I want you to google "the difference between theory and scientic theory" you will see that the theory of evolution isn't just a theory. Do you know how many times creationists have uttered these words just to be educated with the same information. good grief
Don, why didn't you defend your post?
Creationist have no issue with evolution within the same species. Order simply does not come from disorder, regardless of time or how large a bang might have been. The computer you are working could not have happened by accident, no matter how long you are willing to wait and see.
I disagree. Given a long enough timeline, any kind of imaginable accident, no matter how implausible at one time or another, can happen.
Explain the duck billed platypus.
People always use this argument, that order can't come from disorder. It's a payoff of the law of thermodynmics. But the law actually means that any system will continue toward a state of disorder WITHOUT AN INPUT OF ENERGY. Anyone outside or near a window, please look up at the bright orange ball. That thing is the energy that keeps our systems going. Without it, I'm sure that evolution would stop, along with every other system on our planet, and we'd all eventually be individual atoms floating freely in space (until another energy source came along). I'm a Christian, and teach my kids to be as well. But I also teach my kids to think, and not confine the God that we believe in to the rules that can fit in a rather small book.
Think about what you just said... Once the same species evolves and “looks” different or “acts” different is it still the same species?
Actually, the computer did happen by accident: It was designed by people, who evolved from life that came about by accident.
Yes, some do. Depending on which proponent of creationism you speak to they will allow or disavow whatever aspects of evolution suits the needs of their faith.
The computer is the evolution of humanity! In other words, you are extinct, or soon will be.
The only thing guaranteed to be true about a person’s interpretation of the bible is that the literal statements are considered metaphors and the metaphorical statements are always taken as fact.
For example, genesis and revelations!
I like this.
I think we can tune it:
The irony of fundamentalist interpretation of the bible is that the literal statements are considered metaphors and the metaphorical statements are considered facts.
"The irony of fundamentalist interpretation of the bible is that the literal statements are considered metaphors and the metaphorical statements are considered facts."
Yes, whichever suits their purpose of the moment more.
Evangelical Rule of Thumb:
If a bible verse furthers the cause, it is to be taken literally. If a bible verse is detrimental to the cause, it is either: taken out of context; is allegorical; refers to another verse somewhere else; is an ancient cultural anomaly; is a translation or copyist's error; means something other than what it actually says; Is a mystery of god or not discernible by humans; or is just plain magic.
Pastafarians understand that contradictions and inconsistencies have been placed in the gospel of the FSM to test the faith of his believers. The writers of the bible started the trend thousands of years ago but did not expect their musings to be taken as the Truth, who knew that people would buy this nonsense.
Why do you think they called it the BUY BULL.
All hail the FSM.
Postulate of evolution: One species mutates to the point it is genetically different enough to be another species. (Something Darwin had no idea of, nor could verify.) Also something most purveyors of this belief system conveniently fail to elaborate on, as they push their religion of cosmic chance.
Prove your theory. Show me a repeatable experiment that I can duplicate in the lab. Don't used the excuse of time span, as bacteria live thousands of generations within the window of a typical experiment.
Show me evidence, that demonstrates that it happened.
Well, I'm waiting. Put up or shut up.
Antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Don't deflect the real debate moron, prove to us your claim there is a God! Put up or shut up!
Look at Bacteria, Gators, Sharks, Virus all things that have been around for eons and all have gone through evolutionary changes. Hell human skulls even show evolutional changes thats how they came up with the various charts showing the evolution of man.
Please prove to me there is one and only one God who did this .. and yeah in my Lab .. there are 10 main religions and they shd prove the same too.. On the other hand science can prove the same thing to most of the sane people of any religion the facts .. Not written by some unknown ..
See the section near the bottom of this article called Artificial Speciation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation
Did it many times in first year biollogy/genetics in College. Take two petrie dishes with bacterial colonies. Radiate one and not the other. Then transfer members of the irradiated and not irradiated dishes onto two separate dishes- one with and antibiotic in the medium the organism is sensitive to.
Results- From the non irradiated dish- colonies grow on the dish that does not contain the antibiotic but not the one that does
From the irradiated dish- bacteria grow on both dishes. The radiation has caused genetic mutation that has made some of the bacteria resistant to the antibiotic (reprsenting an environmental challange). The bacteria growing on the antibiotic containing dish are a new organism- and antibiotic resistant bateria.
Evolution has occurred
"Don't used the excuse of time span"
show you evolution but dont use the excuse of time? what the heck kind of argument is that? Its like asking for someone to show you gavity exists but you dont want any excuse of the object falling to the ground proves it.
@Jim
It really does not matter to somone like RealG, how much proof you provide, he has his conclusion and that will never change. Paul Simon got it right "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Is that not correct RealG.
This NOT the question. "One species mutates to the point it is genetically different enough to be another species. "
The issue is in the order of normal variances of genetic mutations, there will produce differences in individuals. The real point of evolution is HOW these differences allow the individual to have more success at passing on thier genes (getting laid) which in turn creates lineage of those traits. It is not some new speicies derived one day. It is the beauty of how nature has variability as its saving grace, not a problem as religion would make it into. Variability of species will help insure that despite the conditions that prevail the tribe, some in the tribe will survive and be able to procreate. I just hope we can pick off as many of your supporters so that you are left with nothing but replicas of yourself, and then you are doomed. Variability rules the world.
Science is not a belief system. Religion is! One can believe in creationism, but it doesn't make sense to believe in something like evolution. Its like saying I believe in trees or that birds can fly or that water is wet. To say that one believes in evolution puts it in the same relative category as religion.
Also, when the creationists say that god created the earth etc in 6 days, what exactly do they mean by 'god'. Maybe 'god' is the laws of physics and the universe that govern the processes of evolution etc.
Finally, when it comes to the evolution of human, I think that Mark Twain had it right when he said that apes are descended from man. When you look closely, human beings have not evolved emotionally very much past crayfish.
So God creates the world, mankind, and everything in the universe in 6 days. He also creates all this evidence that scientists have discovered pointing to the fact that the earth, mankind and the universe have been around far longer that 10,000 years. Why is God playing with our minds ? Now I MIGHT be persuaded to believe that the almighty spirit lit the match under the big bang 14.5 billion years ago, but it simply cannot be supported by any reasonable processes that this planet is less that 10,000 years old.
Creationists are always asking about "missing links" and the incompleteness of the fossil record ti support thier fantasies. The reason the fossil record is in complete is that fossilization is a VERY rare event. An organism must die, and the bones lie undisturbed until natural processes bury them, then fossilization occurs over many hudreds of thousands of years. One would EXECT an incomplete record.
What I think is funny is that creationist use this as supposed "evidence" against evolution, yet have no explanation as to why there are any fossils at all. Something that totally refutes creationism.
So some smart creatinist, fill me in: why are there millions of fossils of complex organisms and animals that we dont see on the earth today?
Not to mention the fact that we have only been exploring the fossil record for a very brief period of time. It is unreasonable that we will have uncovered hundreds of millions of years of evolution in just a hundred years of so. Even assuming all the fossils we need do exist, it will take many decades – or centuries – to actually find them.
Just looking back on this – I have to take issue with CNN's headline. Bill Nye doesn't 'slam' anything here – he states a very calm, logical opinion. Using the word 'slam' is trying to stir the pot. It doesn't help anyone.
I am a christian and if the US and the world does not change their non believing ways, and except Jesus as the Savior and Redeemer that He is, then the end of this age will be upon us. I would rather be with the Lord Jesus, but for the unbelievers sake, I'll do all I can to show you that God not only loves you, but wants to heal you and give you life everlasting.
Doofus, it's "ACCEPT". Why are you fundies all so ignorant?
Accept*
I heard something similar from a Muslim guy when I was in college. I suppose if we lived in the right age I would have heard it from a Zorastrian.
You remember Howard Camping, right? So when is that whole world ending thing anyway? God sure takes his sweet time.
Either that, or you are full of sh!t.
If the cost of your so-called "everlasting life" is that I must believe as you do, I will gladly forfeit that offer.
Too Funny, just make up fantastic claims with no evidence to support it. It is so easy how governments use fear to control people like this.
Whats that have to do with the subject at hand? Nothing. He's not saying dont believe in god or god is a lie. He's just saying creationism has been proven completely false. Alot of the bible was written ONLY by man as stories relevate to the day and age. Does it mean god doesn't exist? No..there's no proof either which way which is why people chose to believe or not believe. But creation has been proven completely false and simply a story written by man during a time when science was completely minimal.
I hope above rant was a sarcasm.
If it's not, then people, SAS6907 is sleeper agent of CHRISTIABAN (Christain+Taliban). Haha.
amazes me that someone that follows a god that threatens eternal damnation also claims that the same god loves us.
I do EXCEPT Jebsus I really do.
As I have seen time and time again the vast majority of Christians don't even read or understand their own Bible. Everything they tend to believe is fed to them from their pastors or from the local christian bookstore. They are not critical thinkers, and typically are often told "they think too much" if they start asking difficult questions.
The vast majority of them don't understand how evolution even works. They are just against it because they were told by other people to be against it if you want to be a "good" Christian. I have never met a Christian on the street that could actually explain evolution as science understands it. Most of them just have strawman arguments they have been fed, they don't really understand it.
Well put. In myh experience most thing evolution is some "random" change that occurs over time for no reason at all. I have to admit, I thought that myself once. In high school and earlier university I was in sciences ,but concetrated on the physical sciences. Whe I took my first biology course and natural selection was explained, I felt like a total idiot for not thinking of that myself.