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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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Bill Nye thanks for calling the creationist on the carpet. If they don't believe in science maybe we should deny them any modern medical procedures and let them resort to leeches to cure what ails them. Some people enjoy practicing cognitive dissonance.
And who allowed all these scientific advancements! One day it will be evident on how the universe was created! You will shudder, oh boy, you will shudder!
@Prlytle – Ah that old apologist canard the first cause (kalam crap) which sums everything with god-dun-it!
Please lunge yourself into the nearest volcano.
Prayer changes things ,
It's not doing much for the odd placement of your comma.
Yes prayer changes (decreases) the amount of time you have to act rationally.
Where the heck have you been? We're into page 66 of this BS and your just now showing up? God hates a slackaZZ.
Seriously. Comment on the article or go away.
@boing,
the prayer-bot has been busy depositing its dead seed on the barren earth all day.
No it doesn't. Action changes things, not talking or thinking at some false god in the sky. Thinking logically can change the world not burying your head in the sand. Hopefully you'll wake up and see that.
* How many Atheists and/or Evolutionists REALLY believe that their Great Grandmother was a piece of slime or Tarzan's sidekick ?
* Don't be a Darwin Dummy !!!
* For REAL answers, go to http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org !!!
I guess your great grandfather was a clump of dirt and lost one rib used to make your great grandmother so they could find happiness in incest?
So we should believe which version of your creation story? There are at least two in the bible. Also, which version of the 3 ten commandments should I follow. Real answers are found in science not in bronze age books written by nomads. But please keep thinking that 2 humans somehow populated the entire planet with only 2 male sons, one of whom was murdered. Idiot
Bill Nye also said that alien beings from other planets are not visiting The Earth. I will not state how or why, but I am 100% certain that beings from other planets are currently visiting The Earth.
Ummm... Well, there you have it. He must be wrong on evolution, too. lol
@Frank James
" I will not state how or why, but I am ***100% certain*** that beings from other planets are currently visiting The Earth. "
Actually, I'm 'sincerely' interested to know how you are 100% certain...? Did you have an encounter ?
Please... do tell !
Peace...
How many Atheists and/or Evolutionists REALLY believe that their Great Grandmother was a piece of slime or Tarzan's sidekick ?
* Don't be a Darwin Dummy !!!
* For REAL answers, go to http://www.ICR.com !!!
I know my great-grandmother wasn't an ape. I'm pretty sure yours was.
Bob C, please stop being such a pathetic shill for those pathetic sites, and let mommy have her computer back.
Mr. Nye best tighten his suspenders. It won't take 2 centuries before his evolved rear end is exposed to God's wrath on an unvelieving, disrespectful world.
How cute, it's the age old veiled threat to believe or else. Tell me, is fear-mongering the way your god wants converts?
@JP – Lunge yourself into the nearest volcano with a bible rammed up your ass.
Everyone has the right to believe what they choose to believe. I personally believe that the earth was formed by something a little more powerful than a god and God was a result of that as well. Early mankind believed the earth wzas flat so why is it so hard to believe that they made up something to rid themselves of fear from the dark and whatever else went bump in the night.
creationism sounds like a Monty Python sketch....
: )
Particularly the bit where God says "Don't eat the fruit of that tree.",
and then says "Gottcha, you ate of the fruit from the tree of good and evil"
But "I didn't know right from wrong before I ate the fruit" said Adam "and anyway my rib here made me do it."
"Well you do now" says God "Put some clothes on and get out of here."
Yeah and since the olympics, i do still somehow want to see a new film from MP along the lines of the Meaning of Life, but where the nuns are choreographed to do synchronized swimming. I'll see if I can get in touch with some of my producer peeps.
* How many Atheists and/or Evolutionists REALLY believe that their Great Grandmother was a piece of slime or Tarzan's sidekick ?
* Don't be a Darwin Dummy !!!
* For REAL answers, go to http://www.GenesisVeracityFoundation.com !!!
How many posters on here think Bob ever got past 8th grade?
You've got to be a troll. No one with at least two brain cells can't believe what you're spouting.
Bob C, please stop being such a pathetic shill for that pathetic site, and let mommy have her computer back.
I do!
Then you're as dumb as he is.
Fact of the matter is that if you still, in this day and age believe in these fairy tales, you are mentally retarded and not to be trusted or allowed to participate in any debate, political process or priviledge. Religion stunts the growth of humankind.
Don't feed the trolls! Yet, I was absolutely amazed at the poll results ... had to read that twice. I had nooooo idea that there were that many who follow this line of thinking, more than the large number of justified sheeple (from what I've read)!
@NJKP
or as the 11th century Muslims thought of the Crusaders, "Know Jesus, No peace"
"Deus Vult" after all.
i have one question could the first day be a day of infinite length, because there was no concept of time then.
that is why i don't believe in creationism.
and the best movie that deals with this topic is Inherit The Wind.
There was no "day" before the sun and planets existed. Light was created on day 1, the sun and the plantes on day 4. Woops. So much for the Bible.
Birds before Land animals yet genetics proves land animals came first . Another oops.
Yes, it is possible that something created everything, but the argument is more about saying "my religion" has the god that did all of this. It could just a possibly be 1,000,000 other things than Christianity. I think what turns people off the most is thinking that you have it all figured out and your religion is the right religion. How many people have died for that belief?
Bill Nye should know better. Creationism has basis in scientific fact. Scientists will be able to create a DNA molecule by moving individual atoms. Moving and connecting individual atoms is scientifically possible today. So in the future they will be able to create very complex molecules and even create DNA molecules made to order. They will be able to create beings that have never existed or recreate ones that have been extinct. Bill Nye should know this will be possible even given the limited technology in this field today. I think Nye is more concerned with bashing the religious form of creationism, than basing his claims in actual scientific fact.
What is the testable claim with creationism? As far as I've ever seen, it just makes an untestable assertion, that's all.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
So much creotardness that it's not funny anymore.
This has got to be THE most convoluted and perverted use of rational thought to try to prove an actual blief in Creationism that I have ever seen. Bill Nye is actually a secret creationst because someday he can manipulate DNA and RNA and make a creature and thereby be a Creation-er, leading to him being a Creationist. Wait, i think I hear Bill vomiting in the bathroom.
You do realize the fact that all organisms have DNA as their mechanism for heredity is itself evidence of evolution of all life from a common ancestor? You think aliens will have deoxyribonucleic acid?
The theory of evolution by natural selection is an explanation of why and how organisms exist in their present state based on facts. One such fact is that organisms change over time (evolve). Whether we can create new life in the lab is irrelevant to evolution.
"Creationism has ....blah, blah, blah."
No, it doesn't.
I guess you people that dont believe in Evolution also question the theory of gravity?
Are you sure the Earth isnt the center of the universe.
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder."
Homer Simpson
* How many Atheists and/or Evolutionists REALLY believe that their Great Grandmother was Tarzan's sidekick ?
* Don't be a Darwin Dummy !!!
* For REAL answers, go to http://www.ChristianAnswers.net !!!
You are such a dope, Boob. Do you ever read anything other than the bible?
Their grandmother was Maureen O'Sullivan? I'm sure there are a lot of people who can say that. Is there anyone other than you, however, who believes that evolution states man descended from modern chimpanzees?
If Christian Boob was arrested, and DNA could prove him innocent in court, he would "believe" in evolution real quick.
The fact is Mitochondrial Eve has been proven to be the ancestor of all humans, and she lived about 180,000 years ago. The male DNA line is estimated to make "Adam" about 140,000 years ago. Evolution has been proven over and over and over. No real scientist does not accept it as the best working theory we have. 99% of these nut jobs, when faced with the DNA court connundrum, would say to the lawyer, "ok, use the DNA". They DO bepieve in Evolution. They are just to stupid to realize it. If they went to the MD, and he prescribed an antibiotic, would they take it ? If so they believe in Evolution. Would they say, no, I'll go hame and pray, and let my child die. Yea right.
How many christians believe their grandmother was a "rib".
For answers that weren't just pulled out of your ass go to talkorgins.org
Bill Nye is an actor first and foremost. He is also a mechanical engineer. He is no more qualified to judge the validity of
"creationism" than he is to comment on the validity of evolution. In the end, there is no shred of evidence that human beings
"evolved" from some kind of sea creature. To the contrary the science reveals that the human race started as a separate species, a human "adam and eve" in africa..read this National Geographic work......https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
bill nye is good on TV but lousy at understanding the facts!!
You don't need to learn evolution to become a basic engineer, however most of engineer achievement is done by researching animal. The Wright brothers study bird and other flying creature to understand fight. Most of engineer knowledge came from studying the animal that have similar abilities. So yes evolution do play a part in creating engineer.
Valuing evidence is important in every science.
Stop basing decisions on your conversations with invisible people.
Spencer Tracy in: " Inherit the wind " watch and learn, what came first? the cicken or the egg? the world will never know @ this time... Beam-me-up Neil Armstrong!
Judging by the comments, I don't think anyone has changed their minds about evolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u9W6xwy240
check out the "facts" in the textbooks used in colleges to prove evolution.
That's some pretty complex bulls hit .
Go to Russ Miller's website. He has a lot od DVD's for sale.
Scientists are not trying to make a buck off of you.
Don't waste your time. 100% crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJX68ELbAY&list=PL126AFB53A6F002CC&index=1&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJX68ELbAY&list=PL126AFB53A6F002CC&
Here's a "fact" for you. I wouldn't want Kool-Aid swallowing, so-called educated people like you anywhere near my children and their education. If you throw God out of your "scientific" equations, can you reach the preconceived conclusions your Creationists arrive at? No, I don't think so. This will always be an arguement between religious fundies who put the cart before the horse and arrive at the solution they wanted to arrive at in the first place (what a surprise!), and actual scientists who use empirical evidence and real scientific research and methods to arrive at results determined by where the SCIENCE leads them. Religion is like candy. We know it's bad for us and overtime will lead to your head/teeth rotting away, but too many people just can't help sucking on that ole time religion all day sucker.
I believe in evolution. I believe in science, the power of observation, and more importantly logic as many of you do; however, unlike many of you more vocal individuals, I am not a hypocrite.
You must understand that it is called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. It is a THEORY, and this theory is based off of one's unwavering belief in the truth of scientific observation. Similarly, Creationism is based off of one's unwavering belief in the truth of the bible. Unfortunately, while scientific observation disagrees with the theory of creationism, it is logically possible, despite the complexities, for an omnipotent creator to have created the universe with the observations leading to the theory of evolution. By debasing and insulting Creationism and those who believe it, you are implying that your "scientific observation" provides you superiority over the non-believers in exactly the same way Creationists claim "the word of their god" provides conclusive, superior, irrefutable evidence. Thus, you become a hypocrite.
Now, should Creationism be taught in schools? Absolutely not. The United States of America was founded with the principle of the separation of church and state, and creationism is a religious belief. Science is a secular subject and must be treated as such in public schools. If private schools choose to teach Creationism, that is their own business. We should not be trying to "convert" the non-believers of evolution or condemning them for their different beliefs; we should simply engage them in discussions, provide them the evidence, and let them choose for themselves. In fact, they should be doing the same thing, for one cannot truly be sure of their own beliefs if they have not been exposed to and challenged by differing ideas.
No, a SCIENTIFIC theory is not just a supposition. It's been tested and confirmed by FACTS. How easy to claim the alternative is "omnipotence." OK, then please explain the mechanism – the physics – of ominpotence. How does god turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt? How did he turn the Nile to Blood?
You can't compare a pathway which can be put to the test with one that is, by it's own admission, based on magic.
All off those tests are only valid with the belief that scientific observation is absolutely true, and many of the events that transpire in the bible are only possible with the belief that god is omnipotent (and with that belief the mechanism becomes superfluous).
It is not at all hypocritical to consider evolution to be a superior theory to creationism. Just as you said yourself, evolution is actually based on observation. It's not what the evolutionist wants; it's simply the only conclusion that can be drawn from the evidence. Creationism is not based on any scientific observation; it is simply what the creationists wants to believe. Anybody can dispute any scientific finding by simply saying, "What actually happened is not that which scientific investigation suggests, but rather a supernatural occurrence which coincidentally left any and all indications of whatever said scientific investigation suggests. Furthermore, I require no evidence to support my theory." That is exactly what the creationist claims, and it is unequivocally inferior to science.
You do not understand the term "Theory." If you are a doctor, then I am Elvis Presley. TROLL!!!!!!
The fraud writes: " It is a THEORY, and this theory is based off of one's unwavering belief in the truth of scientific observation."
You're no doctor of anything. No one with a doctorate would write such a lousy piece of crap as that sentence, you boob.
And no doctor of anything would fail to recognize that the scientific use of 'theory' is not the same as the casual use of the word.
Now get to bed, you little dork. You have school tomorrow. Better pay attention, or you'll be this stupid all your life.
RichieP, your are right, anyone can say "What actually happened is not that which scientific investigation suggests, but rather a supernatural occurrence which coincidentally left any and all indications of whatever said scientific investigation suggests. Furthermore, I require no evidence to support my theory." However, that does not make them or their belief inferior, it simply makes them and their belief different. This is exactly what I was attempting to get at in my original post. Claiming that oneself and/or one's ideas are superior to anyone else('s) is dangerous; it leads to anger, hatred and violence. Please don't let this happen.
This argument is not a scientific issue; it is a philosophical issue. This issue has nothing to do with whether scientific evidence and the theory of evolution is contradictory to creationist beliefs. It has to deal with the concept of absolute truth and facts. Trust me, I understand that a Scientific theory is a conclusion about the natural world that is based off fact and confirmed through myriad observation that makes falsifiable predictions. The issue here is that Creationists do not believe observational fact to be absolutely true. Their absolute truth lies in their faith that god exists. Don't take me for a simpleton, it is you who failed to grasp the scope of my argument. Though I do apologize for not being direct enough.
P.S.: DR does not mean that I have a PhD, they're just my initials.