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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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Putting arguments aside, there is actually lots of scientific data that strongly supports a young earth and universe. Without going into details here, there are too many assumptions in dating techniques used by evolutionists, but don't take my word for it...just do a little unbiased research on "flaws in dating techniques" and go through these sites just to get you started for the major flaws in evolution that even evolutionists cannot debate. http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ & http://www.answersingenesis.org/ & http://www.creationists.org/robert-gentry-biography.html
Please stop. There are buildings older than you believe the Earth is. I'm sorry.
Nope. Among the scientific community there is virtually zero disagreement on the relative age of the universe, the earth, and the theory of evolution. Sure, there are some disagreements on the finer points, but none on the general concepts as Nye and DeGrasse Tyson and others discuss on the tv and such.
Bullsh1t. There are MANY dating methods, besides your bunk, that all indicate a much older date. For example radiometric dating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APEpwkXatbY
Your examples are evidence, but they are weak evidence and they do not meet your precondition of being "nonbiased". All evidence is not created equal. To discredit modern radioisotope dating you would need a randomized controlled trial, which would have to prove that discrepancies in results are statistically significant and reproducible. I would recommend you expand your reading list to include serious science, try reading some peer reviewed articles before going to a website that claims the "answers are in genesis."
Why do you refuse to even look through the links posted? They are stronger proof than anything you provided and have been subjected to the scientific method. Yours do not. Check it out, instead of trying to blaspheme your true Creator.
And we are not evolutionists, we are scientists. The evidence leads us to our conclusions, rather that preconceived notions.
Fvck my true creator.
Be careful not to assume, sir. I have spent more time on those websites that most "creationists". You, on the other hand, most likely have never read through the methods section of a scientific article.
This one fits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFUujSNpEU
Theism is a statement of faith
Atheism is a statement of faith
Y'all need to loosen up and enjoy the ride. We will know when we die, or we will cease to be.
And evolution is a statement of science.
Theism and atheism are statements of belief, not faith.
Science yes. Evolution, yes. Atheism is not science. It is a statement of faith.
meant to type
"statement of belief or non-belief (respectively)".
Hawaii, belief unsupported by evidence IS faith. Belief with evidence is logic.
Sorry, but non-belief in X is not the same as beliving X does not exist.
Atheism is NOT a statement of faith. It's the condition of being without (a-) god (-theos-) belief (-ism). That's ALL it is, nothing more, nothing less.
Atheism is not astatement of faith, it's a statement of belief. There's a difference.
Creationisxim =(a distorted off-shoot of Middle–eastern religion, similar to Tali-ban and write-wringers.)
Ah yes, secular humanism, the unerring belief in the goodness of man and the correctness of man's intellect.
It was man's intellect that gave us such wonderful people as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. While religion has faltered just as badly, and continues to do so, so does man's intellect.
This guy is an idiot!
Not necessary to refer to yourself in the 3rd person. Unless that's your particular style of bragging, I guess.
Run your own experiment. Google "inerrant" and look at the top 25 hits. Count up how many are meant:
• literally and sincerely, vs.
• critically or ironically.
That'll give you some sense of the scope of the problem.
I created everything. There, now disprove it.
There is no Poland. Disprove it.
Creationisxim=a distorted off-shoot of Middle–eastern religion, similar to Tali-ban and write-wringers.
Stroebel's arguments are made by the 20+ professors and scientists that he interviewed.
Unless he misquoted them or misused their arguments. Either way, Strobel is easy to beat as his arguments are juvenile and stupid.
The problem Bill Nye and all you evolutionists is that you cannot prove evolution. It is just a theory based on your twisting of scientific information to justify your view. So, I would say the same to you don't force an unproven theory on my child. I for one will continue to teach my children from the evidence I know to be true, God's word in the bible.
And of course you have no proof that the bible is true.
It is true but it is the work of the devil.
You religious types always say prove evolution is real. We do everyday...animals evolve and viruses evolve in front of us. So instead of science having to jump hoops for your narrow little mind. Prove to me that god is real with fact and logical deductive reasoning
NO theory is "proven". The best we can say of any of them is that they answer lots of questions very well and haven't had any holes discovered. But any of them can be improved upon if a better explanation comes along. Got one? Remember, it has to explain everything the OLD one did, plus stuff the old one CAN'T answer.
TWhite.. you know where the proof is found? Every year when you get the flu. Why do you think we have different strains of flu every year? Why do bacteria become resistant to anti-biotics? Viruses and bacteria are evolution on steroids and the easiest examples of it that anyone can see within a lifetime.
Amen to that Twhite.
Actually, this controversy has been going on since Cain and Abel. Cain just didn't want to see it God's way. That was his choice and he, along with poor Abel paid the price for Cain's willful denial of God's sovereignty.
Actually the Bible has been subject to the most stringent of testing of its history and accuracy. Currently there are zero flaws found from the most correctly translated copies and there is lots of scientific data that has been extrapolated and studied from the Bible. The Bible has withstood the testament of time and will still be here long after we pass. You would do better to acknowledge its truth and that God created you. For if you refuse Him, He may choose to refuse you on your day of judgement.
What if your kid comes to you someday and says that he doesn't believe in it any more? That he wants to become a scientist and go to college.. will you disown him like a good tolerant christian? I believe that it's up to my kids to determine what they want to believe. I'm an agnostic but I don't push my thinking on them and, no matter what they believe, I will support them.
Gravity is a theory according to your view...maybe it is... but seems to work. Zombie worship? What evidence?
If the Genesis story is literally true, then where did the evening and morning come from, when only thing that was created was the amorphous Light and Dark. Evening and morning is an astronomical phenomenon.
Epica- they adapt. A bird does not turn into a fish. A dog does not turn into a cat. A monkey does not turn into a human being. There's is absolutely no proof that we evolved from a different species.
Noah_Adams:
The battle at Jericho the one were the walls can down. Well the Bible says it happened when science says it was not inhabited. Which is probably why the wall fell. No maintenance.
Bible says birds came before animals. Genetics says birds evolved from animals, meat eating dinos to be precise.
Noah_Adams
You are 150 % delusional. Light created before the stars ? "Days" happening before the planets revolved around the sun.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Science is a medium, not a source, but a process to reach truth absolute of a matter, but hindu's ignorant assume it to be the source , to justify their hinduism, absurdity called evolution, truth absolute is the God, and creator of every one and every thing in existence.
You calling all Hindus racists is hilarious. Keep going. I like a good laugh.
hinduism blah, blah, blah, are you getting any traction with this drivel? Who in the hell do you think is reading your crap?
Science is neither a medium nor a source. It is a logical method to gather testable and verifiable data.
Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son: hinduism blah, blah, blah, are you getting any traction with this drivel? Who in the hell do you think is reading your crap?
You are apparently tom.....
I agree with Nye, it will take a few centuries, but the craziness of creationism will be turned into the same category as terracentric universe.
...unless their guns win out over logic. Guns have a way of doing that.
It does not appear that we have a few centuries left.
Oh, so what is good for children to learn? Whales fathering cows? Monkeys with human babies? How fish walk on dry land?
Yeah that's right. Because when kids start believing in this nonsense they'll be able to be scientifically literate, to pay taxes, solve problems and build stuff.
Yeah, that's right.
What are you trying to say? Should I gather that you're on the Creationist's side because your post makes zero sense?
@JoAnMi
Your ignorance is showing. May I suggest you try elementary school?
no, they should believe in magic! they should be lazy and stop thinking and just say "Goddidit!" every there is a question. in fact, they should cut out their frontal lobes so they aren't even tempted to think cognitively.
Because talking snakes, men made from mud, women made from ribs, and incest without genetic defects makes more sense, right?
Actually some fish do walk out side of water. They are in a transition just like every other creature. Yours (and my) ancestors did the same thing. Nothing wrong with that. They are called ambulatory fish, mudskippers and such are clearly in transition.
Although other species don't just give birth to other species.
I'm not clear where you're getting any of those things from. Well, there are fish that walk on land, though. Can see them on youtube if you don't believe me. Aside from that, what? Who was your science teacher – they need to be fired ASAP.
Please get a tubal ligation immediately, JoAn. You aren't fit to have children.
See: Straw Man Fallacy, and False Dilemma Fallacy.
Where are you getting all this? Whales having cows!? What is it that they teach you about evolution!? If they told me that and I was too dumb to look for the truth I'd probably pick creationism too.
Agnostics are not atheists. That is a low level language manipulation on par with saying all Independents are Republicans or all Undecideds are Democrats.
I am an agnostic/athiest.
I don't believe in a god (atheist) but I don't claim to know (agnostic).
The terms are not mutually exclusive.
The Heretic Bible
(trans. Brother Marcus Athanasius)
….Not a mountain sanctified, but a prison cursed.
With Eve still captive.
A holy secret-a Sacrament.
Until the time foretold when her
Suffering would end
The one true cross will appear on earth
All will see it in a single moment-all will wonder
The cross will fall
The cross will rise
To unlock the Sacrament
And bring forth a new age
Through it’s merciful death
Aquinas you're not.
Thank you..
Plagiarized right out of Sanctus.
You need to be arrested. I think I shall call Simon Toyne.
"In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video.
Kind of telling of the weakness of evolution. I mean, matter has been around for billions of years and it was just in the late 1800's the theory was codified. Man, that's progress (saracasm off)
Any structure or invention you see in front of you had someone behind it who created it. You can debate if it was a well-made car, or a lousy car, but someone visualized it and built it. Why wouldn't this apply to Creation?
What a fallacious argument. So basically, evolution is wrong because cavemen didn't know about it.
then why don't you go first? apply it to creation - who created god? you say everything must have a creator? who created god?
If you make the argument that God must be responsible for Creation, you imply, at the same time, that your God is also an amateurish buffoon bent on destruction.
For all the planets, solar systems and stars that exist, there are tens, hundreds if not thousands that have already been destroyed. For all the life on the planet that we observe today, there has already taken place countless extinctions.
If true, it is not the work of anyone who enjoys creating, rather it is the work of someone who prefers destruction.
No RL, what I'm getting at is everyone is a cell, or a fish, or a monkey for billions of years...then for a few more million, man suddenly comes on the scene...a billion more go by and walla...in the last 150 years, we have the industrial revolution, and then the 20th century high tech explosion. So much 'progress' in such a short period of time. How do you account for 'progress' taking billions of years to take place? you see, evolutionistic thinking has one 'believing' in something just like religion. Many are afraid to admit it.
Because the way we can tell if something is intelligently designed is to compare against those things that happen naturally. If EVEERYTHING is designed there is nothing to compare it to. Design then loses all meaning.
To Bootfunk
1)That's why he's called a creator, not a creation.
2)If you believe that 2 random particles, "uncreated" by the way, hit each other and created this universe, this world, which started as molten rock, which led to animals, nature, intelligent, conscience humans, etc., then, wow..............
Elliott, evolution is limited to understanding the diversity of life. It is driven by inheritable and observable change to DNA. Evolution has nothing to do with things that have nothing to do with DNA, like the existence of God or iPads, for example.
All you motherfukers are gonna pay! You are all ball-lickers! I'm gonna fuk your mothers while you watch and cry like little whiney bi.tches. I'm gonna make you eat my sh.it, then sh.it out my sh.it and then eat your sh.it that’s made up of my sh.it that I made you eat!
Jesus
Sign it Mohammed next time and include your physical address. Thanks.
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Oh my Heavens ! There is no need for salty language young man! That is simply shocking !
Where did you get that from? I know you know your over exaggerating.
And your not funny.
"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.
Wow. What an intolerant buffoon! "Yeah, I don't believe what you believe, and I'm going to use my fame to lobby that your tolerance isn't tolerated in MY society, which should also be the society of YOUR CHILDREN. Sorry foolish adults, you're not allowed at all. I used to respect this man...
He's absolutely correct.
No actually we need drones for the service industries. Other countries can create the scientifically and technologically literate and therefore damned people.
I agree. I think cwestions nailed it.
he's right. he's asking cult members not to indoctrinate their children with crazy religious beliefs. he's asking them to believe in evidence and proof. i agree with bill nye.
How much of a scientist life is really spent delving into the so called wonders of evolution? When it comes to the day to day workings of an engineer that builds stuff and solves problems a young earth creationist can do the scientific job just fine. In fact he or she may do it with a great deal of extra vigor because it is done to the glory of God and wonder of his creating powers. I would even be so bold to say that our country is "better off" with such scientists.
CW, you miss his point (and, interestingly, illustrate it at the same time). He is not comparing his beliefs to your beliefs (or anyone else's). In fact, the article (and the video) do not touch upon his beliefs at all.
What he is saying is to teach your children to be scientifically literate – to differentiate between fact and fiction. To do otherwise is to ignore the reality of what is all around them and to deprive them of the proper tools to grow.
Well someone with some weight behind their name had to say it. Christian Zealots need to step back and realize that just because they don't understand evolution does not mean they should subject their kids to misinformation and lead them down the path of intellectual poverty.
Yeah folks Bill Nye's got some real weight, right? Hmmm... compared to God mm... I don't think so.
My compassionate side says I hope the headline, tomorrow, isn't, "God Slams Bill Nye" .
To believe in evolution (as some do) is the path of foolishness...the end result is frightening...genocide without a reason in the world to speak against it except out of 100% selfishness until one has the power to effect it.
@Bible One doesn't "believe In" evolution. Either you accept it as the theory which best explains the every-growing mountain of data across all scientific disciplines for the origins of our species or you do not. It's as simple as that.
If you accept a different theory, then be prepared to defend in a rational way why your accepted theory is more logical than the one(s) you reject, according to the data that is known.
Belief plays no part in this.
@Fact I'm pretty sure that Bill Nye's not worried about that headline ...
Bill Nye speaks truth: the creationists speak fantasy. Nuff said.
It's obvious after 70+ pages that creationists worship ignorance. They love not knowing. The more they don't know, the more their faith grows.