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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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We are here having this conversation. You just answered the question yourself "Why I'm the Science Guy."
What question was that?
isnt this a hate crime by Mr. Bill?
ummmm what?!?!?!
No, it's not.
An action is a hate crime when someone gets hurt as a result of hatred. Here, no one is harmed. This is not a hate crime. It is not even hate speech. It is merely an opinion you do not like.
Hate of what? Imagination?
Evolution rocks on whether you accept it or not.
Look for it!
Its happening now in a diploid germ cell undergoing gametogenesis in or near you, today!
Scientists have mastered...or at least merely become proficient at reverse engineering. God was the original engineer who designed all natural things with properties that follow our scientists' articulated "laws" so that we can make sense of and manipulate our physical world. I love science, but I know its place.
yes but those germs cells are all theyll ever be....
Who made god? Another god? Is it turtles all the way down?
hindu filthy evolution hind, stink's more than a hindu, filthy skunk.
Still waiting for science to prove evolution. It cant! True Science can only support a Living God.
Define "nothing". You can't conceptualize or describe "nothing" without referring to "something". Athiests and many scientists simply expect people to dismiss religion and creationism out of hand, and take a scientific I.O.U. for all of the assumptions that they make.
Science doesn't do proof. It always allows for the possibility for a theory to be incorrect. Only religion (all of them) doesn't allow for the possibility that they might be wrong.
why are fighting against something you don't believe. why such hatred toward christians. I don't believe pigs fly but I don't buy bumper stickers that say it.
You're beyond stupid.
Chirstians love their bumper stickers not don't they.
Because they're fvcking trying to tell my sister she cannot marry whom she wants to. Retard.
What hatred?
@brad
You said, "why are fighting against something you don't believe."
Because the actions of believers cause real harm.
You said, "why such hatred toward christians."
Pointing out how ridiculous it is for adults to still believe in the Tooth Fairy isn't hate.
At this point in time, evolution is the best theory to explain the development of the species on our planet. There is a great deal of evidence that supports the theory. If new evidence is produced that indicates something else, scientist will consider it, publish articles about it that will be reviewed and critiqued by others, revise their opinions and create a new theory. That is how science works. Evolution is not a wild guess.
That said, evolution does not in any way address the creation of the Universe. The two things are not connected in the world of science. People who argue for a literal interpretation of Genesis bring them together because their version of the creation of the Universe includes the creation of species.
For the record, I believe in evolution, but also see a need for their to be a creator. How else can we account for the fact that there is matter, that there are laws of physics. In other words, something had to initiate this Universe, because as scientists know (and I am aware that I am paraphrasing), nothing happens unless it is acted upon.
I'm not sure how that has anything to do with any particular god doing anything.
Nothing more than a theory, a hypothesis, other wise known as hindu filthy hog wash.
Nothing happens spontaneously. My argument is that something had to have initiated the Universe and to do so, it would have to exist outside of our Universe. I can't make sense of this world unless I add a creator at the beginning to get things started.
Of course, it is possible that evidence will emerge that demonstrates that my assumptions are wrong. For now, this is how I see things.
Why? Why insert a "creator" just to satisfy your uneasiness? Why not do the mature thing and be satisfied that it's a mystery you don't know the answer to?
I wouldn't describe myself as uneasy. What else makes sense? Where did all of the matter and energy come from? Things don't appear spontaneously in this Universe. Why are the laws of physics what they are? They could not have written themselves (and yes, I am using written figuratively). Basically, I am saying that everything has a cause. The creator is the first cause. Otherwise, the Universe would have had to appear out of nothing. That never happens. Never.
spelomqt, look up "virtual particles" sometime. It's an interesting rebuttal to the "something causes everything" argument.
I have read about them, though I wouldn't call myself an expert. My understanding is that they still don't violate the law of conservation of energy. If I remember right, they use "borrowed" energy. And even though they may seem spontaneous at first, I believe that they are following the laws of physics just like everything else in this Universe.
They certainly do complicate my thinking. I will always be willing to consider new information. And I am willing to change my mind.
Good! I refuse. The FACT is we are all food for worms. "...stars are matter, we are matter...doesn't matter..' Capt. Beefheart
Evolution is hinduism, absurdity of hindu's, absurd's, nothing can exist, not even science without truth absolute, God, hindu's, ignorant s deny in their hindu Judaism, filthy secularism. They are hindu, an insult to human mind.
Dude, shut the fvck up.
Go to hind, hell, hindu, ignorant.
Drink a bottle of bleach, Hindu.
Hindu's absurd's evolution's nap's time's curry's diarrhea's.
Everybody wants PROOF?
Ha! No you don't.
Proof is plentiful. You want to believe what you want to believe. You want to be your own boss.
Evolution is a crumbling theory with no substantial evidence in any corner...from microbiology to the astrophysics....our understanding is primitive.
The worlds were framed by the Word of God.
Are computers created by the Word of God too?
Prove it.
Waaaahhhhh!!! My big fuzzy wuzzy magic sky daddy used a magic spell to do it!!! Give me back my binkie!! Waaaahhh.
@Al
You silly man! If God didn't allow man to invent computers , there would be no computers. You think man today is intelligent? ....You think man through ages past was not equally intelligent? Mankind has lived thousands of years in almost the same way, but only in last little more then 100 years the explosion of knowledge has changed the way we live.
Now, don't tell me that parroting phrase, "Christianity has hindered knowledge" .... Its' a sorry excuse of an argument! Many civilizations have lived even before Catholic church held Europe in darkness for hundreds of years. But none of them advanced like we have in our time... Why? Because God has reserved the advancement of knowledge for the final chapter of human history, to fulfill His purposes in culmination of all things. Everything about us, our human history tells a story, our human story and God's story of redemption of mankind through His own initiative, by sending His Son Jesus Christ who declared Him and explained Him so that we would KNOW Him and be able to have living, active relationship with Him, by believing on the Name of His son whom He sent to redeem us. And everything that's yet to happen fits in this glorious story of revelation of His LOVE FOR US, His LORDSHIP, His HOLINESS and His GLORY.
We, humans have nothing to boast of.... All that we have ever accomplished and will yet accomplish, is because our Creator GAVE US the ability to do so.
But one thing more is important to mention... see if you can understand....
Through all the accomplishments man can boast himself through knowledge, science and tech- advancements, none of those have ever improved nor changed the fallen human nature of man and stopped the corruption of human carachter, but only even further exposed it. That speaks volumes!
Only God can change human heart, by the power of resurection of Christ Jesus His Son. But that's something those who exalt man and his achievements will NEVER understand! That's why they'll remain as they are, unchanged, in their fallen nature, seperated from God in this life and hera-after in eternity.
Umm, I think it is perfectly fine to believe that God created everything in his own phases of evolution. There is a partnership between the two, not a conflict. Creationism & evolution don't conflict when we understand that creation occurs through beautifully evolving phases of evolution. God would control the desired speed of evolution in which he creates. Thus, if he wanted to create the world in 7 days, He would evolve that matter into being ~ His evolution would take place to create his creation.
The matter up for debate is more or less the typical speed into which something evolves into a creation & something scientist could seek evidence upon. But this take either side of the coin argument is just not sensible ~ Creation occurs through an evolution, and an evolution occurs through creation. There is plenty to agree upon without sacrificing one's faith in God or sacrificing one's faith that things do evolve into being.
Except for the part where god is imaginary. Otherwise great.
This is the way I would suspect it works...very logical.
Please tell us what religious text proves that a god guided evolution.
Christianity is way older and has fought evolution for so long, funny how all the sudden they want to jump on the bandwagon. WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS?! After all the attempts to push it down didn't work... *yawn* yeah god did it. Can't you say that for anything? If aliens came to earth and gave us all the secrets of the universe christians will still say 'GOD SENT THEM'
Read The Case for a Creator: A Journalist Investigates Scientific Evidence That Points Toward God,
Lee Strobel (Author) That book clearly show how science points to a creator and intelligent design.
Read the Origin of Species first. It got better reviews.
He's a Christian Apologetic, give me a break already!
Or just read the reams of articles picking him apart like a vulture feeding on an antelope carcass.
jeff, if you knew what most molecular biologists knew about how shoddily designed the human body is . . . if a creator designed *this* mess, then frankly, that creator is a total idiot and I refuse to worship it.
The only things that points to any "god" are lazy, underdeveloped minds like yours that just want to conveniently fill in the gap with 'goddidit' instead of tracing cause after cause backward to the beginning with provable, empirical EVIDENCE. Nothing about your alleged "god" is empirical, repeatable, provable!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOzSZ6Pfbw
This is exactly the kind of nonsense that is holding this world back.
How come it is always christian apologists that claim science points to an intelligent creator and not the scientific community?
Look up "confirmation bias".
Both atheism & theism begin and end with a transcendent cause. Either way both types of people can accurately catalog functions in the material world neither side can observe test and repeat the origins of all things this is a philosophy debate naturalism vs creationism
Here's another one to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFUujSNpEU
I planted those dinosaur bones there to confuse everyone.
Explain the DNA enigma
Faith may be affirming to this minority of folks in this country who are RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS, but YOUR ignorance is truly an affront to humanity. For God's sake, believe in god, but be secure about it! As opposed to being paranoid nuts, find a balance, and find joy in the wonders that science and technology bring to our world. Without it, where would we all be? No vaccinations, no moonwalk, no cures for disease.
But this should be obvious. You should be thanking God for Science.
Stop being literal and realize what the prophets and followers who wrote the Bible were saying. They were living in a world without science, a world that did not make sense, a world that was scary and illogical, a world that needed explanation. This is your Bible.
You who cannot simply accept the Bible's teachings for what they are, in the time that they were written, and follow God, are just plain ignorant.
Science does not challenge religion. but your ignorance and fear makes your ideas seem so silly. Just wake up and accept science and relax. Use your brains, be grateful for all the advantages that science has brought you, and you can be even smarter, and still keep your faith.
What the heck has happened to America that such a woefully uneducated minority speaks up at all? This farce called creationism is just stupid, counterproductive, and incredibly PRIMITIVE. Do creationists like being stupid? Reading some of these comments, I guess they do.
The creationists are some of the most ignorant of people.
Oh well...
I feel sorry for them. Threatened by reality, stupid, and panicky over everything that is true. wow...glad most of America is not so stupid as them!
Sure makes one wonder about the voting bloc, and worry about the future of America though.
well um, have you seen where the U.S. ranks in academic achievement?
don't look now but the U.S. is fast becoming the land of useful idiots.
Wow Katie O'gill...
Ranting much??
Thanks for castigating many, many people that you know nothing of.
And you call them ignorant?!?!?!
Science directly refutes religion, there is NO god, Never has been never will be.
The statement made by 1man of there being no god is an example of the 'argument from ignorance' fallacy.....
Republicans don't believe in evolution because they don't want to admit to the reality that all human life originated from South Africa. So yeah, conservatives are inherently racist/xenophobic/ethnocentric...against themselves is the part that makes it all golden lol
I am an atheist Republican. Don't lump us all together.
Way to generalize.
CHRISTIANS - fighting to keep ignorance alive since man created god!
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Variance within type of species – Yes
Evolution from one species to another – No
You need to do more research, Noah.
False. Macroevolution has been proven and accepted.
Wrong. Has been shown. You just think it means you should be able to see a fish give birth to a cow.
Please google hard evidence for speciation. Or just use wiki, they have tons of examples in their speciation article.
Observed speciation:Gasterosteus aculeatus, Drosophila melanogaster,Adiantum pedatum
Variations within a species eventually leads to a separate species if populations of the variants are kept separate long enough by some natural phenomenon like a new river, wildfire, etc. This concept is well established. Read about the whiptail lizard, where the speciation process was not quite completed. A fascinating story, but, unfortunately, you're probably unable to comprehend it.
I just love these young earth creationists, they see the huge amount of evolution evidence but are just too brain-washed to get away from the bible.
Evolution is hinduism, absurdity of hindu's, absurd's, nothing can exist, not even science without truth absolute, God, hindu's, ignorant s deny in their hindu Judaism, filthy secularism.
hinduism source of hindufilthyracism
What are you smoking?
@hinduism :
Very happy Ommmmm to you.
har har.
make sure you get the tin foil hat re-adjusted
Someone on this thread said that Nye's comments "sound like something Satan would say"....for real, people? If you are having conversations with Satan or know what he sounds like , it's time to see a doctor!!
So sad, our country has no chance with this level of ignorance.
Yep. Half of the country. Half! Yikes.
If you are against creationism that just means your mind cannot comprehend how God and science are linked together. Give me a scientific fact that attempts to disprove God's existence and I will explain how that same fact compliments or proves God's existence.
I tell you what, why don't you just prove the existence of God and we can be done with it, once and for all?
Disprove Zeus and we'll talk.
Please explain why God created the parasitic wasp.
science and religion go together like teeth and b.low jobs.
I would love to do that. The funny thing is that those who are against a topic have to do the work to disprove it. The ball is in your court and I haven't heard a single argument against God that cannot be turned around on them.
How would you prove it. With a freakin book? The bible is only a book. That is not proof. There is no proof of God!
Adam,
Christians are claiming god exists - it is on Christians to prove it. it's not on atheists to disprove anything. the burden of proof is on the one making the positive claim. god exists? prove it.
btw, tell me how to prove a negative?
Adam,
That is because anybody can make sh1t up and claim it is true. Prove a god is connected with evidence, not just claims, and you would be famous.
Of course you already know that there's NO scientific data to prove/disprove God. Can you prove Osiris doesn't exist? Or the boogeyman?
Give me the time and I can prove to you that God does exist. However, I'm not sure you would have the patience or the open mind to listen to me.
Thats not how it works. You are using an "argument form ignorance" which is a logical fallacy. Look it up.
You make the claim there is a God, you have the burden of proof.
I just want everyone know that I respect your opinions and I appreciate your passion towards this topic. I believe that faith doesn't have to be blind. Some people need more evidence then others.
"Give me the time and I can prove to you that God does exist."
Can you prove it to the scientific community? If not you are talking out your ass,
We're waiting for your proof.
Adam, you are full of sh!t. No one in over 2,000 years has proven the existence of any god and you are not likely to. But do go ahead and try – I have all the time you need.
the burden of proof lies with the individual who is making the argument. In my case, I have faith supported by countless scientific discoveries. In your case, you have incomplete evidence.
Adam, any idiot who says that it's the job of those who challenge your belief to "prove" anything isn't worth the effort it takes to spit on him.
Get a friggin' clue. If you want to claim that creationism is fact, the onus is on you to provide proof.
Adam burps: "I have faith supported by countless scientific discoveries."
Then cite them and provide your sources. The bible doesn't count.
"...supported by countless scientific discoveries."
#1 is?
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@0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls
You do realize that your moniker '0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls' is an argument from ignorance?
Man. What aloud of bullshit. Lack of any viable proof for god is enough to convince me.
Thank you for your points of view.
Your God is ashamed of you, you little coward!
"I have faith supported by countless scientific discoveries"
Adam, claiming a scientific discovery is proof of god is assertion. Faith is claiming to know somethiing you don't know.
@b4, if anything is from ignorance, you should know. When are you going to grow a conscience and develop some integrity?
"There is no evidence of God, and therefore, God does not exist" appeals to an argument from ignorance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Please help eliminate my ignorance by providing a few facts, or even just one, for the existence of any god. I believe that you don't have a single one that can survive the scientific method.
A belief in a universal architech does not require a 'pass' from science, or else Einstein wouldn't have ascribed to such belief.
It lies in the realm of philosophy [the home of logic btw].
A more logical position for you would be to state "I don't know whether or not there are any gods".
Evolution (macro-evolution) is the true religion here.
And Bill Nye is a religious nut.
Macro evolution is just the effects of billions of years of micro evolution idiot.
He is ahindu, ignorant and a hindu santan, filthy goon of hindu's ignorant's. in his hinduism, denial of truth absolute God.
Sorry, but a religion doesn't rely on evidence. Science does. Evolution is based on evidence. Creationism is based on one interpretation of a book of religious statements.
Naturalism the belief that the universe self manifested from nonexistence and nothing exists beyond the material world is not a science but an age old philosophy. Both theist & atheist can record functions of the material world accurately. The origin of the universe however remains a mystery. Site Stephen C. Meyer William Lane Craig David Berlinski etc
You see proof of evolution every year when you get a new strain of the flu. Bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics is another example. Bacteria and viruses replicate very quickly so positive mutations focus very efficiently. It really bothers me how many people out there are so closed minded that they dismiss reality and evidence in exchange for the ramblings of a 2000 story written by men. It really makes us look like idiots to the rest of the world and , as Mr Nye states quite clearly, puts us at a disadvantage.