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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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Athiests are like little temper tantrum throwing toddlers who get SO angry because nobody believes their lie.Most modern science today has actually debunked evolution.Scientists are admitting that had darwin known what we know now that he would be debunking his own theories.Go ahead now throw your angry little fits.Now go have Mommy change your diaper ,because it is full of ....
Your massive lies are making baby jesus cry.
creationists?
chas, you seem to be the one who is angry. You might consider that there are adults in the world who have different opinions than yours. If you can't do that you might end up like Ted Kaczynski.
chas, you have a very vivid imagination. That's pretty much all.
chasbronson,
Speaking of diapers, grow up.
damn you are dumb
What the hell are you talking about?
You're the one making up lies. Evolution is still a strongly supported theory with a lot of evidence (from fossil records to anatomical similarities between species to genetic analysis of DNA of different species to comparing embyro physiology).
Creationism is just a fairy tale that most people haven't matured enough to realize is not true.
What a laugh these idiots are!
"Athiests are like little temper tantrum throwing toddlers who get SO angry because nobody believes their lie.Most modern science today has actually debunked evolution.Scientists are admitting that had darwin known what we know now that he would be debunking his own theories."
Oh really?
chasbronson you need to pull your head out of your butt and face reality.
My point is proven. Do any of you God haters even know the basic building blocks of a single cell? Do you know the mathematical impossibility that even one of these could randomly come into existance?Let alone all of the building blocks required for just a single simple cell to come together to form any type of living thing?There sure should be some blobs of fossilized transitions if evolution could happen.You people are real smart why don't you quit bashing Christians and quit believing the garbage you have been fed,and look up the evidence put forth by the Creation Research people.They have in fact proven creation down to a cellular level.Unlike evolution scientists who have no answers,but cleverly devised fables.Evolution is not even a very good fairy tale.Even if I didn't believe in God, Evolution is such a fools explanation of the origin of man that it takes just that to even consider it true.I understand though that you athiests will believe anything that allows you to love your sin and hatred of the one true God.
Hate to break it to those of you who believe in God, but all the really smart people know it and I'm going to say it:
GOD DOESN"T EXIST
STOP HOLDING MANKIND BACK WITH YOUR STUPID IRRATIONAL BELIEFS
The Bible, a stupid book of unknown origin and certainly little reliability, is not a reputable source of evidence.
Evolution is backed by science which actually deals with the world we live in.
Why do only very few people see how pathetic it is believe in a religion? Religion is just people trying to explain their problems in some ignorant way while at the same time trying to become "part of something bigger:" a connection with some illogically omnipotent being.
WAKE UP!
Mankind knows way more about our universe now then ever before and it was still a stupid idea to believe in God thousands of years ago when we didn't know as much. I suggest that everyone who believes in God should stop blindly following the beliefs of the uneducated people of the past and really really think about what makes the most sense:
That if it ain't backed by science, it's not true. Evolution is backed by science. Creationism is backed by idiots.
Show us the evolution proof, that humans come from apes. You can't because it doesn't exist. All things evolve but there is a gap that in cannot be covered by evolution. We would have go through hyper evolution faster that any other recorded species on earth. So show me the sceince!
Rob, why exactly do you say that regular evolution would not have sufficed. Please be specific.
Show you the evidence.
Have you taken a high school biology class or even an middle school biology class?!
The evidence is every ancient fossil they uncover which carbon dating will tell is millions of years old instantly proofing creationism false. Do some research before you opening your stupid mouth.
I was talking to Rob-Texas
Now that I see your name, are you purposely acting stupid to insult Texan creationist or are you really a pathetic stereotype?
Debunking fake science and "a case for a creator"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ot8eyf5qA
Another informative vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFUujSNpEU
Evolution zealots are SO full of themselves it's unreal. They just can't even fathom the idea that some people might believe in creation because they're SMARTER. Or perhaps more emotionally intelligent. Perhaps more logical. I wonder what the divorce rate is among scientists compared to garbage men? How do you judge who is more equipped to discover the meaning of life?
There's more to life then cold science. That's something creationists freely admit while evolutionists completely delude themselves. There certainly better be more to life then MATH for instance because mathematically evolution is impossible. They have the nerve to pretend they're the onces doling out reality driven science.
LIkewise it also would be the mark of a cruel and unjust god to create a race of people claiming to be all about love and justice and then make scholarly intelligence the criteria for getting to know him.
If there is a god and he is as described in the bible, and we are made in his image then logically Sephen Hawking would have no better chance at finding him then Gary Busey. IT has to be about simple human qualities that we're all capable of.
I find it funny how the same people that consider themselves rational think that humans, elephants, spiders, and everything else evolved from the same common ancestor. Seems kind of far-fetched to me.
As far fetched as the I Dream of Jeannie method of blinking everybody into existence, which is basically Creationism?
Only if you don't understand it. Just look at a chimpanzee for a minute... what do you see? Do you see ears similar to ours? Do you see hands similar to ours? They even have similar finger nails! They have binocular vision like us. They are violent and territorial just like us... How can you not see this???
It seemed far fetched to scientists too, that's why they did the work to back up the hypothisis with evidence.
Rational Libertarian
That's how you picture a higher form of life doing things. Perhaps you're the one who isn't all that bright? When people designed the desktop computer they made it so it could be manipulated. Machine code, operating system, monitor and keyboard. Now I peson can create a webpage in one minute and share it with the world. 1000 years ago you wouldn't be able to even explain to someone what a keyboard was and you would completely lose them at electricity.
So who are you to pretend you have all this wisdom and can adequatly judge the idea of a creator as a fantasy??
"Far-fetched" is EXACTLY what it is! EXACTLY! You have to go far, far back in time to fetch that common ancestor. Richard Dawkins does exactly that in "The Ancestor's Tale" and shows you exactly where each branching occurred as he traces human ancestry back to the primordial ooze.
The reason we see the bewildering variety of species we do in the world is because nature's been at the evolution game for BILLIONS OF YEARS. Lots of stuff happens in all that time. Heck, look at what we've done with dog breeding and selective breeding of corn and soybeans in only a few centuries, then reflect that nature's been at it for 10,000,000 times LONGER than that.
The entire bible is far-fetched.
As Far fetched as an omnipotent and all powerful being seeking the adoration of his created people's, who could do ANYTHING to get it, deciding to have his son be born, persecuted and killed, raise him, and have these people eat his body once a week to remember? Doesn't it seem far fetched to choose THAT instead of, oh, I don't know... ANYTHING else??
RichardSRussell,
You don't understand the difference between the transition from one species to another through beneficial mutation and every day garden variety genetic differences. The kind of evolution that creates a new and more complicated living thing DOESN'T HAPPEN! You're talking about the type of "evolution" that we always knew existed and to make matters worse you're bragging about the advancements made by INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEINGS which still don't even come close to the complication of macro evolution but still required thousands of years of scientific advancement and knowledge and a team of researchers with high iq's working aroudn the clock with microscopes.
Evolution is reductive. You're assuming that at some point in the history of the world NEW genetic information was added to a living thing (which doesn't happen) and then it happened over and over together with the power of natural selection until we arrived at modern man.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
I want everyone who acts as if this type of thinking is inconsequential to consider this: To accept creationism requires a complete disregard for carefully and elegantly researched scientific evidence, and 40+% of people in America do so. Now think about how likely it is that one of those 40% are evaluating the evidence behind the building materials for a bridge you drive on, or the need for a surgery your relative needs. Evidence should lead people to conclusions, beliefs should not determine which evidence you value.
It is possible to perform science on the occurrences in a created world. The Catholic church invented the scientific method, after all! Can any liberal genius on this site please give me one example of how an evolution ADDED DNA to a species? We have much more DNA than frogs, bats, etc.
Two examples: In plants, new species can be created by the multiplication of chromosomes (quite literally where there were two chromosome #7's, now there are three, more DNA). Secondly in the process of the separation of chromosomes before they enter the sperm and the eggs, different amounts of the parents DNA enter each time. So one of your children literally has more DNA than the other.
Just so you know you can always ask a scientist if you have these sorts of questions, instead of assuming they cannot be answered.
And I am neither a liberal, nor a genius. I don't understand the implicit condescension. Scientists study science, do you get angry at mechanics for knowing more than you about your car?
God and evolution can coexist quite easily. This whole argument is really centered around how you interpret the Bible, literally or figuratively.
It matters not, because either interpretation is a load of bulls–t.
Who cares what Bill Nye thinks. Who does he think he is – God?
The situation seems very clear. There are MANY different INTERPRETATIONS as to exactly how and when the earth and mankind were 'created' across all of the different 'brands' of Christianity alone. Not to mention all of the other religions of the world. So, for example, Christians, for example, can't even agree amongst themselves about a single interpretation of the bible (oh, that's right, there is more than one bible!). And yet, they all claim to be albsolutely and unquestionably right. The interesting thing is that if you ask any credible scientist from ANYWHERE in the world, in any culture about how the earth and mankind were 'created', you will almost universally get the response – 'evolution'. That is simply because they all use the same method – the scientific method – which is the same method they have used to discover virtually everything we use and know today, i.e. computers, telephones, GPS, microwaves, etc. Science is a universal language based upon facts and data. Religion is simply a person's or a groups INTERPRETATION of something that is not based upon facts and data. It seems to me, that if there were a god, she would be more inclined to encourage people to speak the unifying language of science as opposed to the divisive languages of the various religions.
darwinian evolution takes just as much faith to believe in as creationism.... darwinian evolution has yet to provide any solid evidence for sequential transitional fossils, instead it says "Oh look heres what a chimp looks like and heres what a human looks like,,, they look similiar therefore we must have come from them!"... then they try to do the DNA comparison... when also we share just as much DNA with a fruit fly! it really is a play on facts they try to twist to support their claims.... Alot of geneticists are beginning to believe in an intelligent designer because they know how complex DNA, RNA, Chromosones, and Cells really are.... just look at microprocessors... if we could make those what makes you think a creator couldnt have manufactured our biological systems?.... I could go on and on...
finally, a sensible comment
Nothing but hinduism, denial of truth absolute by hindu's, ignorant s.
Um... YOU might share as much DNA with a fruit fly as with a chimp, but I don't.
Where on Earth did you EVER get the idea that human DNA is as close to drosophila as to P. troglodytes?
"When people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together." —Isaac Asimov (1920-1992), American science-fiction writer
Post by 'Joshua' contains the Argument from Ignorance fallacy and includes several invalid equivalences.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html
darwinian evolution takes just as much faith to believe in as creationism.
Only if you are a gullible imbecile such as yourself. Sorry, God is as made up as Santa Claus and you can't mind beam requests for favors to some invisible cosmic being. Grow up already.
Retard. The Theory of Evolution was espoused, and developed by many more than Darwin. If you ever tallk a science class, you might not be such a fool.
Here's a peek at what real people talk like in the field, not your first grade drivel.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Anyone-for-paleoanthropology
@Joshua,
Great, we were designed with incredibly intricate parts then shoddily put together,,, Your other points are much too ridiculous to merit further discussion, the 'points' you attempt to make are asinine and specious.
I'll believe in evolution when you show me the half-man half-apes emerging from the jungles
Would you settle for their skeletal remains? Because that particular transition happened something like 500,000 to a million years ago, depending on where you'd like to draw the line at "man".
They're all in Tampa this week.
There's no need to show you that, because man is an ape.
you are just showing how little you know about the theory of evolution.
If you studied the skeletal remains you would see that the results are inconclusive. The timelines are not consistent. Quit being a typical lazy evolutionist, look it up yourself and quit relying on what you are told.
They're right here. The ones thinking you can mind text some invisible old guy in the sky to ask for favors.
@truth,
And we will believe in God when you show him emerging from the skies. Thanks for making our point!
It is always a mistake to perpetuate lies.
bill nye, the sandusky guy.
A boy loving hindu sanatan, filthy goon.
There is no science in "creation science", no intelligence in "intelligent design". Science uses evidence to come up with conclusions unlike creationists who have their conclusion and then attempt to shoe horn, fabricate ("Dr. Karl Ross, "Dr" Ken "I'm a felon" Hamm and more anyone?) and flat out lie to make things fit their conclusions, no matter how much mental gymnastics are needed
hinduism, absurdity, it takes a mind to design, can a hindu, ignorant deny it. No mind, no creation.
Don't forget Behe-it's-all-about-me-he.
Bill Nye's TV appearances are not appropriate for Children
Ho ho, how funny. Almost as funny as Bill O' Reilly. "Tide goes in, tide goes out, therefore god exists".
"BILL NYE ... THE LIE GUY!" Ever look at the photos from Hubble, Bill? Are you okay there, buddy? SO SAD!!
OK, I HAVE looked at some of the Hubble photos. Do you have a point of some sort here?
What are you talking about? Where is your argument?
RichardSRussell: Ever see anyone make a watch before? Takes some skill, trust me. A man can CREATE a timepiece, but God is not bound to time; and as far as a CREATOR; HE stands alone... We have NO CLUE; trust me. He knows the number of the stars and calls them all by name. How many stars can you name? I can't do it. POINT: Open your eyes! Lt me know when you create something; ANYTHING out of NOTHING... Speak something into existence. Get the point, my friend? Hope so, I'm praying for you! Love in Christ, Byron
Byron, please prove that any one thing you said about your god is factually true.
A word to the wise: None of us will be facing "The Gallup Poll " on Judgement Day... It will be our Creator. Praying that you (WE) will be ready when God calls you before His Holy Throne. In Love, Byron
0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls:
One word: LAMININ – Google it.
To not accept evolution, means you just don't understand it. To use religion as your argument against evolution, means you don't want to understand it.
You must be willfully ignorant of the facts that creationism bring to the table.. Read the book "In the Beginning, Compelling Evidence for Creation", its online so you can read it free. The writer will openly debate any takers, but no one can disprove any of his points. Your welcome to try! http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/
Noah_Adams,
What does he say about unicorns and justifying TALKING animals? Get serious.
@Noah_Adams; yes......... I am willfully ignorant of Creationism. I have no room for the attempts to explain God. A concept that can Only be proven by itself, not man.
@Noah,
That book is ridiculous... He claims the universe is likely younger than 13.7 b.y. and backs it up by claiming that 100+ measurements taken over the past 300 years supports the claim that light does not travel at a constant rate... As if people 300 years ago could measure with the kind of accuracy we can today
well, all i can say is just you wait Mr.Nye, God will show himself to people like you, and then what will you do? 1.) belirve God or 2). Perish forever. Your choice. Make sure you pick correctly, because believe it or not you will not be in the Eternity at all. And furthermore, people like us, those that KNEW the TRUTH, well, we really dont want your kind around in the 3 rd earth age, You are damaging all the children there so we dont want You in eternity.
Bill Nye never said he doesn't believe in God.
Sad watching folks use religion to view themselves as better than others. Will be interesting when you pass and find you have missed the point of he teachings in the bible.
Yuck! You believe in a god who uses threats and torture? How disgusting are you two?
LOL
Empty threats may have worked on ignorant barbarians, but until you show the videos from hell on the nightly news, you're just another gullible sucker ashamed to admit how badly he's been conned.
LMAO...
And here we go with Pascal's Wager again...these guys are like a broken record.
Please tell me you're joking. Because you cannot be so ignorant as to believe that fairy tale. If you are then enjoy your delusion while the rest of humanity evolves.
And which God might that be the one to pass judgement on you (or Bill Nye) ? Jehovah, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Shiva, Zeus, Thor, Osiris, Xmucane and Xpiayoc ? Take you pick. As in the classic British comedy sketch by Rowan Atkinson playing the Devil at the Gates to Hell: " Welcome to Hell. Shall we get started. Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims on the right. Buddist's, Scientologists, born-again Baptists on the left. Catholics ..... yes.... you have a question ? Or so sorry, you're wrong, the Jews were right. And God really couldn't stand another 2000 years of pomposity propagated in his name."
jin:
See and "half men" walking around? Where are they; on Geico commercials?
If evolution were true; we'd see EVERY STAGE walking and crawling around. FACT.
@inez,
I always wondered, whatever became of the souls of all the people living in the new world/areas where the word of Christ did not reach their people until 1500 years after his death, thus continued on believing in their heathen gods? Did they go to hell or were they forgiven for their ignorance?
Bill Nye the Darwin guy. While his views are undoubtedly popular among many, he is shooting his career in the foot. Creationists will always outnumber evolutionists in his demographic.
Except creationists don't outnumber evolutionists anywhere ever. Boy how you folk love to deny facts.
What demographic? Retards.
Agreed... I thought his show went downhill years ago anyways.
Evolutionists outnumber creationists in many countries. The US ranks just above Turkey for the most people who believe in creationism. Even Pakistan and Iran have more evolutionists per capita then the US.... That's really scary.
Still, somebody needs to reveal the Santa Claus of grown-ups as just a made up story
Athiests choose to believe they evolved from a monkey .I choose to believe that we were created by an All powerful spirit who has created All there is.He also cares enough about the human race to provide a means to be reconciled to him from our hateful and sinful thoughts and actions toward him and others,if we only choose to accept it.Athiests choose their sin and their hate over God's offer to them.Yet they attack that which is true and right nullifing that which they claim to be in truth.Truth doesn't have to prove that which already is.Athiests are angry, frustrated people,who think they can avoid God, while the whole of their lives are consumed by thoughts of Him and his "non-existance".
Do you have a brain?
I thought you were dead?
Evolution is hinduism, absurdity of hindu's, ignorant s of hind, dark ages.
No scientist thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. They believe that they shared a common ancestor. The best way to think of this is like a gradient of two colors. I'm going to assume your a muslim, judging from the extreme amount of hate in your post. Well, I think your confusing people on the internet with atheists. People on the internet hate on everything.
I meant to say I could not tell which religion you are from by the content of your post, it could come from literally any religion out there (except Buddhism). I did not mean to single out a group of people.
chasbronson,
Atheists are people who don't believe in God. It has nothing to do with evolution. They also don't "avoid God" since they don't believe.
Think things through.
You can choose to believe whatever the fvck you want, chas. You don't get to choose how "atheist" is spelled.
You're a moron.
ChasBronson: Athiests are angry, frustrated people,who think they can avoid God, while the whole of their lives are consumed by thoughts of Him and his "nonexistence".
If anyone disagrees with the above comment, I would suggest that you attend one of their many conferences/book fairs. You will quickly find that for a group of people who claim that there is no God, they sure do spend entirely too much time and money trying to refute the very idea in which they supposedly "don't believe". I do not believe in the Easter Bunny or Santa but just because there are people out there who want to celebrate them – or even believe in them – I am certainly not going to waste a lot of time and energy to write books, go to conferences, etc. in order to refute the Easter Bunny and Santa – that is ridiculous. Furthermore, if I truly do not believe something exists, why in the world would I find it harmful that someone else does believe it exists.....unless...of course, I just 'might' believe it exists.
Remember Santa Claus turning out to be made up BS and thinking how it never made sense but you wanted to believe. Well you're doing it still as a grown up. Its time you actually do grow up and stop being irrational about some invisible old guy who you can mind beam to ask for favors.
So, chas, can I as sume that you don't have any objection to gay marriage? Abortion?
If you do, why?
Chas, how about stem cell research? Do you object to IVF? Why?
Funny that people believe entirely in a book written1800 years ago. What an odd way for God to get his message out! Sounds like something a human would do IMHO. (Hello Acts of Pilate. Hello Apocrypha. Hello Book of Mormon. Hello every other spiritual guide written by man).
"So, chas, can I as sume that you don't have any objection to gay marriage? Abortion? If you do, why?"
Those things are irreverent to the discussion. BTW, who is "chas"?
@chasbronson,
Then I also assume you choose to accept that the bible endorses incest when convenient...