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August 27th, 2012
11:31 AM ET
Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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God is a myth. Jesus was a scammer. Mohammed was a pedophile. Buddha was a wus. The rest of the gods are just as silly.
Surely thee speakest not of the mighty god Thor?! Beware mere mortal, lest the god of Thunder crush thee!
"you religious fvcktards would defend that to the death as well. Brainwashed morons."
Why are you so angry?
chrcon–so what happens when you find out you are wrong? What then?
Bill Nye is not a very smart guy after all. Last time I checked the Big Bang and Evolution were both THEORIES. Meaning they are unproven.
On top of that they don't agree with basic scientific principles.
Somewhere between 18 and 20 billion years ago, all of the matter in the universe was compressed into a tiny space no larger than the dot on a page. This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the Universe and everything in it.
There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions – Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?
If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?
If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?
Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.
This is a known law of science , which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.
This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.
So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.
However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.
Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.
The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"
Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"
So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...
. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" – Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.
Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.
If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.
Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.
The Big Bang theory also teaches that in another 80 to 100 billion years, all of the matter that makes up our Earth and solar system will become compressed again, drawing in on itself and fold up once again into a tiny dot.
A Big Bang is said to occur every 80 to 100 billion years.
If the Big Bang theory is true, then I sure hope Jesus comes back soon, otherwise we’re all going to get squished!
As absurd as the "Big Bang" theory is, it is widely accepted because the only other choice is a Divine Creator. And some people will believe the most ridiculous theory, rather than even entertaining the possibility that there could be a Creator.
As I see it, there are only 2 choices.
Either someone created the Earth,
or the Earth created itself..
(despite all the known Laws of Science saying it couldn't have happened this way).
Now there are those who say that maybe God used the "big bang" to create the world.
Well, God is God, and he can do anything he wants but scripture tells us that this is not how he created.
God’s creation was one of order, not random processes.
Those who try to reconcile the Big Bang with scripture do themselves and the Bible injustice. For the Creation account and the Big Bang differ greatly in the order of events. (If you do not see a chart below, then your browser does not support "tables")
Order of events in the Biblical account of Creation, compared to the order of events in the Big Bang theory.
Biblical Creation Big Bang
bible BIG BANG
Earth was created before the stars Earth formed long after the stars
Plants were created a few hours before the sun. Plants formed after the sun formed
The sun was created on the fourth day after the earth The sun formed before the earth
The sun, moon and stars were created at the same time The sun formed from older stars
The best evidence against the Big Bang is the existence of Polonium Halos.
American physicist Robert V. Gentry's research shows that rocks known as Precambrian granites were created almost instantly as a part of the creation (as recorded in Genesis 1:1) and "are not the product of the evolution of the earth."
CREDITED TO : http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/bigbang.html
Do you know what theory means in the scientific community? No, methinks.
Please google what a theory is before copying and pasting your rubbish.
Ok, the entire post was nothing but ignorance. But, to point to an obvious stupidity, there is no evidence at all that the dot was spinning. Spinning is relative. And, there was nothing for it to be relative to in this universe. Sorry kid, you are listening to liars.
"..However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards. ..." They spin in different directions because it's believed that they were impacted in the early formation of the solar system. If an impact hits just off center, then the planet will spin in that direction. Our moon was formed by a major impact between the earth and a mars sized object that hit off center. Some of the material from that collision formed the moon and our planet has been spinning in the direction of that hit ever since.
nicely put.
You are way out there. Evolution is a scientific theory, a term you don't seem to understand. A scientific theory has empirical support and has not been rejected by any empirical evidence. Creation is not a scientific theory, because it has zero evidential support.
You need to go back to science class, because your various attempts at describing why the Big Bang Theory violates scientific laws shows your very shallow (in fact, depthless) understanding of science. The BBT is completely consistent with EVERY bit of empirical knowledge regarding the origin of the universe as well as mathematical physics deductions.
Wrong on too many counts to even address. Explaining your mistakes to you would be like trying to describe the color red to a blind man. You're just too fucking "biblewashed".
Mr. Nye is so wrong. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and many other great thinkers were raised on the Biblical belief of creationism. They helped create and preserve the greatest country on Earth. I don't think these men were incapable of critical thinking!
You know very little of Thomas Jefferson to make that comment. Why don't you take a peek into the Jefferson bible and his comments on it's creation and then see if you might want to edit that comment.
Those men weren't exactly doctors and biomedical researchers. And the creation of America has nothing to do with science and technology. I'm not even clear what your argument is – Alexander the Great conquered most of the known world and he did it without knowing about things like evolution or how disease is spread. It's called progress. You like having cures to diseases and new technology? You like that computer you're typing on? Stop impeding progress.
Where do you get the idea that people who believe in creation can not be scientists and researchers? I know of physicists and other scientists that are creationists.
lol these creationist retorts are so dumb..i cant say how or why we're here..but the bible is the biggest load of shat there is..grow up christians
Evolution and God are not exclusive of each other. In fact, you can almost consider science as a search for God or how God works if you believe in him. It's that literal belief in that old text that's the problem!!! It's allegory.. .even the Jesus story is allegory for the sun. The Jesus story is based on the movements of the sun against the stars during the winter solstice. Jesus is the sun. The three kings are the three stars in Orion "following" the star in the east (Sirius). You know why the three stars of Orion's belt are called the three kings?... because of the pyramids of Giza were built in the same configuration as the stars and three kings are buried there.... See? It's all allegory.
Interesting...and kinda cool, actually....
One day Mr. Nye will have the opportunity to stand before and (attempt to) explain his theories to the creator of the universe. Then he will be dispatched to the place where all the other folks go who do not wish to spend eternity in the presence of the only living God. Or, he can choose to study the word of God with an open mind while here on planet earth and hopefully (for his well-being) come to the realization he is incredibly wrong. Perhaps he should ponder the fact that the bible in one form or another has survived two millennium. He (and his theories) on the other hand will not endure one century.
Well he will be in good company with the many other people that also believe in evolution
As Mr. Nye says, "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine."
But for all I care, you can teach your kids whatever you want. Just keep your religion out of my kids' science class and textbooks.
Actually.... Genesis was written a long time ago and not by 'Christians' – It was originally (and still is) part of Jewish lore and is estimated to have been written around 500BC....(after being passed down as oral tradition)
The Christian Bible itself is comprised of many books and was compiled over a period of around 1500 years.... many of the books have no firm date or confirmed author – many other writtings were left out – primarily because of the political nature of religion over the years and a wish to control the ideology...
But if age means it is right, perhaps we should look at other ideas from the past – the world is flat – the sun spins around the earth – etc.
Belief in a god has NOTHING to do with creationism – Creationism is wrong – it has been proven wrong many times –
If you want to believe in a god – whatever – but believing in creationism is for fools....
You have been brainwashed by the cult –
Sidders: "the bible in one form or another has survived two millennium [sic]."
If longevity is your game, the Hindu gods and their stories have been around for almost 7 millenniums (millennia)... still going strong.
Yes, one day we scientists will be before god, where we will explain why we cured disease he caused, brought light to places he meant to be dark, allowed people to live that he meant to die, allowed men to fly when he meant the sky for the birds . . .
Evolution is hinduism, absurdity of hindu's ignorant s in their hindu Judaism, filthy secularism, having no value what so ever.
Word Jew is based on Latin word Yahood, Je or Ja, Ye, or Ya, meaning from heart and mind base word for Yes in English, HOOD, habit or habitat, meaning, self centered or a secular, denier of truth absolute, such as King, or Pig, in disregard to truth absolute and Judaism, One who takes a wow to be in violation of truth by his intent, considering himself to be the God, the truth absolute, same as in hindu, denier of truth absolute, word hindu is based on Latin word hindrance, negativity, HAN, great, Hun, to be in greatness and hin, to be negative to both of them, hindu, a noun in negativity, hinduism, way of negativity, as in word Jew, a self centered or a criminal, otherwise known as a goon, a shaman. Judaism is not a religion but in opposition, defiance to truth absolute in self center ism.
Wow, you make even the creationists look smart.
Umm, I think it is perfectly fine to believe that God created everything in his own phases of evolution. There is a partnership between the two, not a conflict. Creationism & evolution don't conflict when we understand that creation occurs through beautifully evolving phases of evolution. God would control the desired speed of evolution in which he creates. Thus, if he wanted to create the world in 7 days, He would evolve that matter into being ~ His evolution would take place to create his creation.
The matter up for debate is more or less the typical speed into which something evolves into a creation & something scientist could seek evidence upon. But this take either side of the coin argument is just not sensible ~ Creation occurs through an evolution, and an evolution occurs through a creation. There is plenty to agree upon without sacrificing one's faith in God or sacrificing one's faith that things do evolve into being.
Ummm there really is no matter to debate , evolution is a scientific fact. God is a fairy tale, what is difficult for people to get!!?? It's not real. Santa isn't real either, same deal.
Are you just going to keep changing the story to include your imaginary friend?
Im sorry, but can you just stop?
You're just delaying a war. There is a conflict between the two and evolution needs to eventually crush creationism so that mankind can move at faster pace.
1man committed the logic fallacy of argument from ignorance....
What is the attraction to remaining ignorant?
They were threatened with burning for eternity and they fell for it. That's the only reason that I can see.
Not surprisingly, those that seem to have been forgotten by evolution, are the same that deny it.
You have the right to believe what you want about evolution. You are wrong Mr. Nye, but you will see that when God comes back one day to take His children home. When that day comes, if you haven't trusted Him to take you to heaven, you will see just how real HE is and how wrong you were. What a sad day that will be for then you will believe in Creationism because you will see just how powerful HE is, and wish you had seen how powerful he was before He came :/ He created you and you are scoffing and mocking Him...how saddened I am for you Mr. Nye that you cannot see that :/
Yuck! You believe in a god who uses threats and torture? How disgusting!!!
Scoff
I'm saddened that you actually believe that the earth was created in six days. Illogical and completely phantasmal. To actually believe a book that was written by man, all of it's inaccurate and disprovable stories .. that's like believing Lord of the Rings or even Harry Potter sorcery actually exists. Grow up lady, we aren't children anymore. Science is the explanation to what exists in this universe, just look at us landing the rover on Mars, or even sending Voyageur 1 and 2 to the outer edges of our solar system. This is reality, not an imaginary belief foretold by a book written by man.
Don't let the facts get in your way.
An animal or plant is just a germ cell's way of making more germ cells.
If the germ cell copy was exact, evolution could not happen.
Crossovers and mutations occur.
Crossovers are what make your sisters or brothers looked different from you.
In humans, mutations occur at an average rate of 100 mutations per generation.
That's 100 DNA single base pair changes in a genome of 3.4 billion base pairs.
Copying 3.4 billion base pairs of DNA will have more "errors" than copying a DVD onto a hard drive.
Not all these errors are bad; most never show up, some cause diseases, a rare few make things better.
keywords for google: mutation rate generation dna
background note: A base pair is A-T or C-G (adenine paired to thymine) (cytosine paired to guanine)
Don't worry. Nothing bad will happen to you if you don't believe in the fairy tales.
It's amazing what some evolutionists will do to get their info into textbooks, even though its been proven wrong time and time again... Google search "lies in the textbooks dr kent hovind" for youtube video of examples that evolutionists have faked to try and prove their theory. What's most unfortunate is that these lies are published over and over in children's textbooks although they were proven by trial that they were absolute fakes.
All "gods" are man made inventions. Science and math exist whether we believe in it or not. A rock doesn't care if you believe in gravity. It will fall just the same. Your faith is misplaced when you ask your imaginary friend to help you do things. Our only salvation is each other. Science and knowledge allow us to predict how the universe will behave and to bend that behavior to our will. We can either use science to better our society, or pray for one of our gods to make everything better. My money is on science and knowledge.
What established the rules that the universe obeys?
Science says it can never disprove God, it can never tell us why the universe obeys laws, it can never tell us what was before the big bang, it can never tell us what caused everthing, it can never explain your consciousness.
You should investigate theistic evolution, it has the advantage of explaining all that.
Chad, when science can't tell us something it admits it. Take the hint.
@Moby Schtick "When science can't tell us something it admits it"
=>Glad to hear it,
– by definition cant explain the origin of the universe since it was "triggered" by a force external to our universe (and therefor outside the exploratory domain of "science" in its atheistic naturalistic form)
– can't explain how the first life form on earth was created
– cant explain why the universe follows laws
– cant explain why the progression of life forms follows a stasis-rapid change pattern (punctuated equilibrium)
and of course, cant explain why the tomb is empty
as Clint says "Mans got to know his limitations"
Chad, science does not have to disprove god. Someone has to prove god and that is not going to happen.
Wait..did the Chard actually provide proof that god exists? Wasn't he going to do that quite some time ago? Did he succeed? Why wasn't I notified?
It is pretty funny how people pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible. Love Bill Nye!
Other than being in an old man-made fictional book with lots of cute stories, is there any reason why anyone should believe in creationism?
Wanna get your story straight before posting?
It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does creation!
How?
You can't possibly believe that everything was made by some invisible guy in the sky a few thousand years ago.
No. It takes more education on relevant matters. Anybody can believe in fairy tales when coerced by threats of torture.
Yeah, with all that evidence it's really hard to believe in evolution
Yeah, you and your ilk obviously practiced reciting that line so often that you could do it in your sleep, because this is about the 500th time it's been trotted out today. Of course, nobody ever bothers to explain WHY or HOW they arrived at this utterly ludicrous conclusion. Is it like everything else you believe, somebody told it to you and you never stopped to think about it?
There is no solid evidence for evolution. See http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ for the real proof!!!!
How do you spin that to make sense? Really, it is RATIONAL to believe that several hundred years of work feeding into evolutionary theory is more likely correct than in a book edited by committee with TWO creation myths (yes there are two in the bible...both correct?)
Dan, what a silly statement that was. A person has to BELIEVE in creationism to accept it. A person with a disciplined mind can look at the science of evolution and accept it or reject it based on EVIDENCE.
Noah, you are a dingbat. How about this: There is no proof for the holocaust. See w w w . nazisforracialpurity . c om for the real proof!
Wait... it takes MORE faith to believe in a extremely well and thoroughly studied scientific theory (which is the highest point in science) of evolution that is backed by a mountain of corroborating and reinforcing evidence that is continually growing, than it does to believe in the thoroughly unsupported and unevidenced guess that some all-powerful magical guy-in-the-sky just poofed everything into existence?
Ohhhh kayyyy.