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August 27th, 2012
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Bill Nye slams creationismBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–Famed TV scientist Bill Nye is slamming creationism in a new online video for Big Think titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children." "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday. The video quickly picked up steam over the weekend and as of Monday morning had been viewed more than 1,100,000 times. Nye - a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" - said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back." "Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video. Creationists are a vast and varied group in the United States. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world, and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critique The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for the past 30 years. In June it released its latest findings, which showed 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. During the 30 years Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. Survey: Nearly half of Americans subscribe to creationist view of human origins "The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye said in the video. "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said. Creationists' beliefs about the origins of the Earth are often a narrow focus, based in large part on religious beliefs, and while they reject evolution as "just one theory," they often embrace other fields of science and technology. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter In "The Genesis Flood," the 1961 book that in many ways help launch the Young Earth creationism movement in the United States, the authors write: “Our conclusions must unavoidably be colored by our Biblical presuppositions, and this we plainly acknowledge." Their goal for the book was to harmonize the scientific evidence with the accounts in Genesis of creation and the flood. The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution. "In another couple centuries I'm sure that worldview won't even exist. There's no evidence for it. So..." Nye ends his video. soundoff (14,640 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 Next » |
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Bill Nye spoke at my graduation ceremony in 2000 from RPI. Apparently Bill Clinton couldn't make it, so this is the guy we got. His ignorance back then is reflected in his statements today. I also hold a Mechanical Engineering degree. Since then, I've also earned two master's degrees – one in engineering, and another in business. It's amazing that I've retained my backwards "creationism" belief that won't exit in 100 years, even though I've been educated at the most costly and prestigious educational insitutions in the world. I've studied evolution, and find it to be false. In fact, I find it to be a pathetic religion for those who have no hope. Don't be fooled by "Bill Nye the science guy", he's just a guy. Children that are trained in the way of the Lord will not depart from it. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent.
What exactly is your evidence that evolution is false? And, please try to avoid logical fallacies and misusing statistics.
LOL "I've studied evolution and found it to be false." Hilarious. Oh YOU find it false! Well, excuse me I didn't realize the all knowing Jim had ruled on this matter. Forget the thousands of scientists and physical PROOF that exists. YOU found in false. Was your research reading the pamphlet they pass out on Sundays?
You can waste your money any way you want, even on education that you have chosen to believe is false.
You've "studied" biology? As in, you have a biology degree? Yea, thought so.
Well Jim I have studied the bible and found it to be a morally bankrupt book of drivel.
Wow you have a mechanical engineering degree and a degree in business you must be really impressive, what's more impressive is how you think that any of those contribute to your understanding of biology or evolution. But please do go on tell me more about how evolution is in fact "false", disprove genetic evidence, paleontological evidence, anatomical evidence, evidence from cell biology, virology, zoology, mycology, should I keep going? It's ok that you wish to remain ignorant after all someone has to water my garden.
Your clinging to the fear of death, my friend. It's scary i know. But since we both have such a short amount of time on this Earth how about we live it based upon the truth. In case you forgot, truth is based upon evidence that can be reproduced by other people.
To my knowledge you don't need an understanding of evolution or DNA to be an engineer. You do to be a molecular biologist (my job). I know nothing about engineering or coding, but that's not part of my job description. Understanding DNA is. Last I checked, the world needs both engineers and molecular biologists.
AMEN to putty. The world needs people of different disciplines and religious beliefs so that we can triangulate on the truth. Evolutionists (generic term) have (generally) passed on a very weak and changing argument. What I've found, in my brief time here on Earth, is that evolution is a religion for those with a going-in argument that there is no God. This argument is being spoken to people who have found God. So, it's no wonder that polls haven't changed much over the past 30 years regarding belief in creation. Those who know God will not believe in an evolutionary theology that tries to explain the origin of species apart from God. Those that know God may believe God purposed evolution to allow for adaptation of species to changing environments. I'm not an expert, but I haven't found any evidence for macro evolution. I have seen evidence for micro evolution. Either way, evolution shouldn't be a polarizing topic. We should discuss it openly. People should know what they believe, and why they believe it. When the time comes, and we see God face to face, we can ask him personally how he did it and what tools he placed in the hand of the creation. Does anyone on this blog truly believe that we can understand and explain the mystery of billions of years of the cosmos and the natural world in our pathetic 100 years of existence? Also, I appologize that I can't speak with the authority of a "mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy".
Jim, it's not a religion. It's a series of tangible elements and scientific process that we can replicate in a lab and point to in thousands of ways, back with logic and context. It's amazing how reliant we are on tried and true science, and yet if it contradicts what a book of mythology says, it fails.
The best Bill can do is attack the dated bible written thousands of years ago. The bible has metaphors and is written by people on how to live like thou shall not lie, cheat and steal. Good morals to live with if there is or is not a god. Does it require soo much comprehension ***science is simply an observation of gods creation.** Humans cannot make the solar system, billions of stars filled with billions of galaxies. God made it and humans observe HOW god made it.
Where did God come from? Who made God?
observer: "Where did God come from? Who made God?"
This question, as childish as it is, ignores the reason you posit the existence of a god in the first place: because there had to be a first cause. If that's so, the first cause had to be uncaused or self caused.
Asking "who made god" is like asking "what's north of north".
Nah
Hawking postulates a self-caused universe, so your criticism of the Theory doesn't hold water. God ought to have had a creator, however, because he is understood as a "being", like biological life. How can an intelligent being have always existed? It goes to a creationist argument. If you discovered a watchmaker on the beach, wouldn't you assume he had parents? If God is a watchmaker, then who were his parents?
Causality is only appropriate if time exists, as Stephen Hawking points out time did not necessarily exist before the big bang so "there has to be a first cause" doesn't have to be true at all.
I grew up to Bill Nye. Thought he was cool and somewhat intelligent. "Denial of evolution is unique to the United States," Nye begins in a YouTube video posted on Thursday.
Of course it is. This country was founded on Christian principals. It's in our national anthem. It's on our money. I see the comments from the original post. Mostly just Christians and non-Christians bashing each other. Some good points either way none the less.
Nye – a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program, "Bill Nye the Science Guy" – said the United States has great capital in scientific knowledge and "when you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in it, it holds everyone back."
Couldn't the same be said about people that don't believe in God or creationism or whatever you want to call it? Wouldn't that also "hold everyone back?" With no hope of something better?
"Your world becomes fantastically complicated if you don't believe in evolution," Nye said in the Web video.
If you have no hope of something better than this life, doesn't that make your world "fantastically complicated?" also?
"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it. Because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems," he said.
"Deny evolution and live in your world?" Isn't that what you're doing Bill, only opposite to make it fit your beliefs?
In closing Bill Nye the Science Guy.....you can not tell parents to go against and not teach their kids, the traditional beliefs that have been handed down from generation to generation because it goes against what you believe. Period.
I am not as high profile as you but if I were, it would be like me telling you not to teach your kids about evolution or the big bang theory. It's not my place. You are going to believe what you want to believe and I am going to believe what I want to believe. In the Christian world, it is my job to to bring you to Christ so I will always try even if you reject.
I believe people and things evolve, yes, but I believe they do so because God allows them to but don't tell me that I need to keep my kids from the "theory" of evolution so that we can have better inventors and engineers and what not. That's just, for lack of a better term, retarded.
Thanks for the amusing read. Too bad you can be religious and not believe in creationism. Nye isn't saying don't believe in God, he is saying don't believe in something that is counter to scientific FACT.
Er, Mark, it's not in the National Anthem. Bear in mind, only the first verse of the poem was adopted as the anthem.
That and don't taint your children with your twisted beliefs. While you're at it, why don't you convince your kids that 2+2=5, I bet their first grade teachers would love you.
Mark
How about h0mphobia, racism, and anti-Semitism? There are plenty of "traditional beliefs that have been handed down from generation to generation" not worth saving, right?
In a sense this is also bigotry, bigotry against science that you just don't like because it disagrees with your "traditional" views. Know what? ALL new scientific discoveries disagree with the old, "traditional" views people once considered fact. That's how it works. We discover new evidence, and old ideas become outdated. If you have a problem with that then why trust any new medicine, or any other product of science? It's all the same method, after all.
He meant "hold us back" in tems of technology and biomedical research. It already is. He doesn't mean in terms of philosophizing about the afterlife. Leave science to the scientists and philosophizing to the theologians.
Wow wish I would've seen all of these negative comments earlier....and cared. Doesn't change my beliefs 🙂 What if you're wrong? If I'm wrong then I'm no worse for wear right? Sleep tight and God loves you 😀 So do I.
Evolution = NOT the special creation of God.
gadfly likes to throw around terms he doesn't understand
Sorry for your poor education.
It's Gadflie you cretin. Now, please show your evidence that I have used any term incorrectly.
I like how he says, "if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine..." Ha! Talk about inflammatory. Thanks for the condescending pat on the back there buddy. I could say, "if you want to deny that there's a Creator who brought order from chaos which is completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine." I'm teaching my kids creationism because it's consistent with the world around them. Order never comes from chaos on its own. It needs a "mover." When I throw legos on the ground for my kids to play with it doesn't stack up neatly into a complex castle. We (humans made in God's image) have to make the castle. Teaching atheistic evolution is inconsistent with the world they live in.
Good, Chris. And maybe if you shake sticks and throw rocks at the sky those devil airplanes will stay away.
How is creationism consistent with the world around us? How does it explain our poor design, how our DNA is so similar to that of other apes, or even how the various species are placed around the world? Creationism answers nothing. It only opens up more questions, like who created the creator, why are we designed with obvious flaws, and why is 99.99999... % of the universe hostile to life?
i just find all this funny because i went to a catholic school and they taught us EVOLUTION not this creationist bs
I believe that this computer in my hands and all of the comments posted as well as the CNN report above came about by a series of unlikely events that can not be fully explained or understood. I do not believe that any of it had a writer or creator but prefer to believe with great faith that it came about from nothing. By doing this I assure that I will never have to feel the sting of humility that one experiences when as a "great mind" realizes that it is not that some truths cannot be proven, but that their science is not big enough to understand what is true.
Fortunately, great minds are undaunted by the unknown and will continue to seek answers, long after more lazy individuals throw up their hands and claim "god did it."
Your statement is silly considering that you just posted one of those comments, so why would you consider their origin "unlikely"?
The real irony is that you are holding that computer in your hands and insisting that science doesn't work.
And don't give us this "sting of humility" crap if you believe that you are made in the image of a God, the most powerful force in the universe listens to you telepathically, and you are immortal. That's not remotely humble.
tall: "Fortunately, great minds are undaunted by the unknown and will continue to seek answers, long after more lazy individuals throw up their hands and claim "god did it.""
You may as well criticize people who believe in evolution for throwing up their hands and saying "evolution did it."
The fact that you've come to a conclusion doesn't mean you've ignored the evidence, and it doesn't mean you're going to ignore future evidence.
rufus: "The real irony is that you are holding that computer in your hands and insisting that science doesn't work."
Brilliant fallacy.
You believe in one part of science, therefore you must believe all parts of science. One part of science is undoubtedly correct, therefore all parts of science are undoubtedly correct.
Would you have said the same thing about phlogiston, simply because it existed alongside calculus? What about phrenology when it existed alongside germ theory?
Nah, over and over I have invited believers to provide evidence of their god. Not one has provided any. I trust the evidence provided by the fossil record, the genetic record and the geological record much more than I trust the word of people who believe in a god because they're afraid not to.
tall: "over and over I have invited believers to provide evidence of their god. Not one has provided any."
Sorry, but anecdotal evidence isn't proof that your opposition is wrong.
"I trust the evidence provided by the fossil record, the genetic record and the geological record"
You do realize that evolution and a god aren't mutually exclusive, right?
"much more than I trust the word of people who believe in a god because they're afraid not to."
How petty and childish of you.
"Not one has provided [any evidence of god]."
Perhaps you haven't looked far enough. Evidence comes in two forms: data and necessity. The arguments for a god are often based on logic, data, or some combination of the two.
If you don't know what those arguments are, you're pitifully misinformed when it comes to a subject you have opinions about.
I have asked repeatedly for proof from the atheist and all I get is attacks...must not be able to prove atheism. Thanks for all those pretentious assaults
How can anyone prove something to an idiot like you, brad?
Brad,
The problem is you are too lazy to read ofr yourself.
Now do care to read this:
1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats (source), 80% with cows (source), 75% with mice (source), and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.
In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
5. acterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
Brad, why haven't you looked up the logical fallacy "negative proof" yet? Your ignorance has escalated to willful ignorance.
What's to prove about atheism? Atheists just don't believe in god. There's simply nothing to prove there. Unless you don't believe we're not telling the truth that we believe there is no god. You'll just have to take our word for our disbelief.
Simean.m, all that you posted re genetic commonality could just as logically be interpreted as genetic commonality due to a single original designer....
Hey Brad, meet the crusaders of the evolution religion, kiss the vial or meet your death...they use threats to intimidate, never any answers, much like many of the misguided church folk. Well meaning, but most are taught nothing by their "teachers", much like the "preachers" of evolution.
Athy, you sound like those religious zealots who offer no proof, nasty and educated....I have read the silly little idea evolution offers, not buying it, credulity at its foremost, simple minded...hey, look, I can be rude as well.
Simran 1234 common creator characteristics,5,6 Evidence of adaptation not evolution.
Athy: "What's to prove about atheism? Atheists just don't believe in god. There's simply nothing to prove there."
If the atheist statement "there is no god" is re-phrased as "materialistic forces only are responsible for creation and the subsequent fuctioning of reality/the universe" then you in fact *do* have a lot of explaining to do.
Alas, again, the idea that there is no God is still an argument from ignorance......
1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
>>> Or evidence of a common design from a designer. My 2001 Mercedes car has common design elements from earlier Mercedes cars of the 1950s, 60s, 70s, etc, but would not claim that my car evolved from a random primordial ooze.
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
>>> This "smooth gradual transition" is a common misperception that armchair evolutionists espouse regarding the fossil record. Plese read about the "Cambrian Explosion" of life forms. The majority of species appeared in a very short geological time – about 75% of the complexity of life appeared in 2% of the 4.5B year history of Earth. Not evidence for creation in itself, but further challenges a view that life came from total randomness...it makes the already astronomical probiblity that life evolved randomly even more astronomical.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats (source), 80% with cows (source), 75% with mice (source), and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
>>> See comment to #1, commonality can be explained by "common design" as opposed to "common ancestor"
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.
In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.
>>> You are repeating youself...commonality can be equallly explained by a "common desinger" as a "common ancestor"
5. acterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
>>> Adaptation of species to react to environmental stimuli to maintain continuity of life sounds to me like a "good design." Not proof that all life came from randmoness. Computer scientists today are trying to mimic such a design to make computer systems robust to intrusion by adaptation to stimuli to maintain continuity of operation. Stil not evidence that those colonies of bactieria can become a complex multicelled organism such as a frog or a human.
No Athy there is not. And saying there is no God does not prove in anyway that evolution is how we got here. Ask the right questions....
Lifenot random
1. Common design of Mercedes: I said all cells are capable of reading any piece of DNA. Can your 1973 model Mercedes run with the keys of your 2012 mercedes? Or was that Mercedes initially with one tyre and then had 2, then 3, then 4? Worse still, was your Mercedes unicellular?
2. Majority of species appeared in a very short geological time – The Cambrian explosion occurred 530 billion yrs ago, and the rate of evolution accelerated over 70-80 billion years (now I hope we understand that figure)! Are you suggesting that God suddenly woke up from his slumber and decided he needed to create something? Well, I would say bcoz the environmental conditions would have been the most conducive at that time. Now there is pretty good evidence gathering that complex forms including animals did exist in the Precambrian era too. There is little doubt that disparity – that is, the range of different organism "designs" or "ways of life" – rose sharply in the early Cambrian. However, recent research has overthrown the once-popular idea that disparity was exceptionally high throughout the Cambrian, before subsequently decreasing. In fact, disparity remains relatively low throughout the Cambrian, with modern levels of disparity only attained after the early Ordovician radiation.
3. Genetic commonalities – No not repeat argument. Would you state that your Mercedes is made up of the same stuff as you toddlers bicycle, in that both were designed? Well, do they have 90% commonality?
4. Embryos – Now again, does your fetus Mercedes look like your fetus bike?
I wish people would stop throwing the word "theory" around so loosely. Creationists with no scientific understanding don't know that a scientific theory is based on vast amounts of evidence. It is not just an idea. Creationism is not a theory. It is an unproven hypothesis.
Thank you.
So wrong, there is NO evidence of evolution, but you must have faith that it happened as your preachers have said it does.
633mucous, there are mountains of evidence for evolution. What planet are you from?
Yes thank you and Tom (the Piper's Son) as well for fighting the good fight.
Tom Tom with his pom poms... Tommy, all you do in your posts are slam people like some teenager... maybe thats all you are... you don't write anything intellectual or challenge anyone... you just do the cheer leading squad trip.
Try growing up & get interesting, kid.
633music: There are gobs of solid evidence for evolution. Are you just too lazy to read it? Or (more likely) are you just too fucking stupid to understand it? There is no credible evidence whatsoever for creation.
Were you there Tom? If not, you have to have a ton of faith in those who were there at the beginning of...whatever happened, oh wait, they were not there either....so, you have a lot of faith with no answers either...
Athy, you stab yourself with your own sword,as many like you do.Die well, because after that THE JUDGMENT. Every knee will bow Some in repect and adoration,some in fear and trembling.
Bring it!
Billy.........remember the road you are preparing.....if creationism is 'bad' for our children...then, teaching about any God is 'bad' for our children. Let's be good Democrats and understand, it takes a village of socialized clones to 'evolve' to the next step of humanistic evolution.
What is love.........what is hate.........what is murder......what is thievery......what is pride...........are these just advancing evolutionary events.........or are they the choices of a sin torn world.....for saving grace, or self righteousness.
Who's got the Idiot Translator Ring?
I mean, really, is it too much to ask that we share? There are so many idiots and so little time to figure out what the fvck they're attempting to vomit here.
No, the premise that creationism is false (which is proven) is different from the notion that God does not exist or is "bad" for children. God, if real, transcends religions and science.
I know you are trying to sound deep but you are just saying a bunch of babble (get the joke?).
Stop embarrassing yourself
i dispute these findings by gallup poll: 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.
i think people only answer on the creationism side because they feel they have to or, its a similar question to "do you like kittens or genetics more?" of course most people will pick kittens. it means nothing. most people believe in atheistic evolution, i'd be willing to bet. If not, they wouldn't call an ambulance when they got seriously ill, they'd just pray.
46 percent of Americans say they believe in creationism? No surprise. 48% say they believe in ghosts. 22% say they have actually experienced ghosts. 21% believe there are real sorcerors, conjurers, and warlocks. 20% are sure the sun revolves aroung the earth. Most Americans can name more of the Seven Dwarfs than they can name Supreme Court justices. More Americans can name the Three Stooges than can name the three branches of American government.
Let's face it: there are a LOT of really really really stupid Americans out there (and they vote Republican!).
It's interesting how the "theory" of evolution is taught as if it is "fact". At its core, to believe in a theory regarding origins as if it were a fact is no different than having faith in that theory. It could be argued, therefore, that evolutionists have a “religious” faith of sorts, albeit a faith in themselves. (they certainly defend their precious Darwinian theories with religious fervor. If you think this is an exaggeration, just try to discuss creationism with you and they will laugh at you, deride your intellect and refuse to listen to the evidence you present). Unfortunately, having faith in nothing but our own self makes us very inward-looking, self-centered. When we refuse to believe the evidence of the existence of a benevolent creative supreme being, a.k.a. God, we inevitably embrace the alternative, in other words, the Me! Me! Me! idea espoused in the 1960s and 1980s. Some of us even go so far as to sit and meditate, and then rise up, smug and superior, saying to ourselves, and (more dangerously) teaching our children the "I-am-God” egotistcal humanist philosophy." And you, sir, have the audacity to suggest that creationists are dangerous to children… If we are not created by an intelligent, loving being, then, sir, our existence has no purpose, and living without a purpose is something we cannot teach our children and expect them to live a full, and content life.
Please look up what a scientific theory is. Gravity is also a theory. They are both also facts.
You, sir, are correct – YOU have no purpose here on this earth. Trolling, however, seems to be your passion.
What? So if there is no god then our lives serve no purpose? WOW. This is how people think folks. Brainwashed since childhood. Not much you can do about it though. There will always be people who unfortunately believe in the invisible man in the sky. Where he will send you to burn and scream in torment and anguish and pain and suffering till the end of time if you don't obey him....BUT HE LOVES YOU!!!!!!! LOL
It isn't taught as a fact. It is taught as a hypothesis of sorts and as tool for scientist to uncover truths and connections in the world. It's not a law because we have would have watch four billion years of evolution in life to prove that we are COMPLETELY right. Evolution is FOR THE MOST PART correct. Scientists are calling it a theory because they the decency to admit that they don't have to vision to know absolutely everything that happened in the last four billion years. So why don't you choke on your own medicine because creationists are definitely preaching their beliefs as facts claiming that they know absolutely how the universe and life was formed. Next time try a less narrow-minded argument or open your mind to the truth.
You sir, are scientifically illiterate. A "THEORY" in science is a series of observations that are observable and repeatably observed. Far different than the word we use. You confuse theory with hypothesis. Gravity is still only a theory, so please go jump off a building and tell me how that works out for you. I'm sure you accept that bacteria and germs make you sick; hey guess what?!?! That's only just GERM THEORY. Get the point yet? Probably not, because you believe that God made two people that we all are descended from. So answer me this, if Adam and Eve were white, how do you explain asians, arabs, blacks, hispanics, and every other non-white race on the planet? Oh and while you're at it, look up atomic theory, you know the thing that lead to splitting of the atom; but hey that's just a theory right? So I guess nuclear bombs don't really exist.
Oh long named one, the theory of Evolution doesn't cover creation. Sorry to burst your ignorance bubble.
So you refuse to believe in the solid evidence of millions of years of bone fossils showing that all species, including humans, have evolved... and instead you choose to believe a book written a thousand years ago by a group men just trying to teach a few morals? There are mountains of data proving the theory of evolution and the only data you have is a book that most of the population on this earth doesn't even read or believe in. Its time to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.
Hello this is the universe speaking. I'd like to address my previous comment that "I" wrote. When I chose to give myself this human form I was just ready for a good time, but you can't have a good time without bad. So, I made more of myself to do as I please. I do bad things and good things when i want to. this human form is no different from my object form that just sits there or the space form that my human form believes is empty. The only difference between each form is structure, but my feeble human mind believes there is more to me..hahha.. this game is much more fun when you don't know any of this! Ohh its almost time i disappear because this existence with all its billions and trillions of years is less than a split second. An eternal spark that last but a fraction of a second. A singularity that can unfold itself within itself forever but in a fraction of unit of time. God? ok.. you can call me daisy if you'd like but I prefer me. And I really enjoyed reading this. I or you or me? you mean me or you? hahhaa..
God as creator,
We do not protect darwin's theory. If you have what it takes to be another Darwin and prove to the world that he was wrong, we will change the concept.
But that would take a lifetime of dedicated work and relentless patience to make those observations and of course, not to mention HONESTY in stating what you truly observe. Darwin didnot start with an agenda, you see. He didnot have that concept in mind when he began his work. He discovered it along the way.
Now that is where the first problem with you becoming a scientist would be – the process would start with a bias, coz all you would want to do is find evidence to prove that God exists. So, you would disregard the evidence which doesnot support ur cause.
"atheists have non beliefs that is why they are called atheists." why do you believe....
Damn! Where IS that Idiot Translator Ring...
Come on, who had it last?
That is the inherent problem with evolution vs. creationism. Evolution is not something to believe in. It is accepted or not based on the evidence provided. Creationism is believed in or not based on whether you have faith in it.
Since you keep asking for evidence for evolution, let us just also see what evidence you have for Creationism! Oh, did u just say the Bible? That we have dissected piecemeal, and put u on defensive already. U said God created earth in 6 days, and now u say a day for god is not like for us.
U said god created adam and eve from dirt, and now u say, it doesnot literally mean so.
U said the earth is 6-10000 yrs old, and now u say it is not written anywhere.
U said humans are made in god's image – well I saay it took pretty long for god to realize he needed someone wto worship him? Was he sleeping before that?
I can't get my original reply through the CNN filters. So I'll just say that I love atheistic evolutionists with the love of Jesus Christ. And plenty of you will eventually hear His call and turn to Him as God, Savior, and Lord. And you'll be eternally grateful you did! All your pseudo-intellectual arguments sound pretty fancy to the average atheist reader. But they ring hollow in your own heart, and they will not stand up under the searchlight of Gods convicting and drawing Presence. Good night.
And right after that, Leppo the Leprechaun will sprinkle some of his magic stardust on you, and you will macarena like it's 1999! Really!!!!
"But they ring hollow in your own heart,"
Sorry to hear you say that, but you know what they say about the truth hurting? Evolution may not be emotionally satisfying to many people, but since when does our love of an answer make it the correct one?
You are wrong sir, and this post is what feeds them, you see, their preachers have degrees on the wall, not from divinity schools, but much the same reverence is given, zealots, following zealots. Evolution is silly and no evidence exits to support it.
Child like posts like this are damaging to them.
Better to ask about simultaneous evolution....
Please forgo all technology and progress then. Get off the computer, don't take medication, don't drive or get in a plane. You want to deny progress, then why should you enjoy the benefits of it?
Seriously, get a grip. You believe in fairies and other make believe too I guess.
Just saying Puffy, evolution is idiotic and silly, has nothing to do with their being a God or not, just a stupid idea...no matter what your preachers have told you.
Religion and science are not mutually exclusive.
I wonder how many people realize that the guy who proposed the Big Bang theory was a priest, astronomer and professor of physics?
I know that and I don't like Lemaitre because of that. How he managed to get that far intellectually is truly astounding. Nonetheless, because of his status as a priest, he is 50% wrong in his life.
I don't think Nye is saying religion and science are necessarily mutually exclusive (though I suspect they may be). What he is saying is that creationism is both false and the result of ignorance, and contributes to the dumbing down of our own children. And he's absolutely right.
Most preists know that religion is fake, they are in it for the control factor.
If believing in something made it real, my car would be restored, my wife would be 25 pounds thinner, and my boss would go jump off a cliff (because I believe the world would be a better place without him....).
Priests...dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live.
-Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson believed in a creator – fairly common knowledge
Did you purposefully post an irrelevant non-sequitur, or did your creationist mindset render you unable to weave a sound logical argument?
Hate to break it to those of you who believe in God, but all the really smart people know it and I'm going to say it:
GOD DOESN"T EXIST
STOP HOLDING MANKIND BACK WITH YOUR STUPID IRRATIONAL BELIEFS
The Bible, a stupid book of unknown origin and certainly little reliability, is not a reputable source of evidence.
Evolution is backed by science which actually deals with the world we live in.
Why do only very few people see how pathetic it is believe in a religion? Religion is just people trying to explain their problems in some ignorant way while at the same time trying to become "part of something bigger:" a connection with some illogically omnipotent being.
WAKE UP!
Mankind knows way more about our universe now then ever before and it was still a stupid idea to believe in God thousands of years ago when we didn't know as much. I suggest that everyone who believes in God should stop blindly following the beliefs of the uneducated people of the past and really really think about what makes the most sense:
That if it ain't backed by science it's not true. Evolution is backed by science. Creationism is backed by idiots
What does religion have to do with how we got here? One thing for sure, certain, evolution is a silly option to choose from.
Just another dumb bunch of zealots, spouting about their faith, NO proof of this lame assumption exists.
I love a quote I heard recently:
"There are no unbelievers after death."
You are so blinded you don't even see (or want to see) your irrational thinking. Whether you like it or not the very God you deny exist created you. Gives you the breath you breathe - the breath (and limited intelligence) you use to deny Him. You have GREAT FAITH to believe He does not exist. Why not channel that FAITH into believing in Him and serving Him. You WILL acknowledge His existence one day whether you like it or not. It's your choice, FOR NOW.
I read the first few sentences of your post and the first thing I thought was, -, you should believe in something before you die, because that is when you will be faced with your creator or maybe nothing. My belief is, wouldn't it be better to have believed your whole life and to die and find out god isn't real, than to not believe your whole life to die and find out he is, -, you decide.
@Bill Who?
"I love a quote I heard recently: ("There are no unbelievers after death.")
I'm not following you here, Bill ?
Peace...
Simply put, creationism is the belief in an intelligent design, not randomness, as the source of life. I believe in creation, and yet I am a highly trained engineer and scientist who solves problems using science. There are millions like me in every country. If you study for yourself (not just listen to "experts"), the complexity of DNA, the fossil record, the lack of evidence for "the primordial ooze", you too will find evolution a most unsatisfying explanation of the scientific data around us.
Remember, u think life came from a rock!
Think ( if u can ) before u call someone stupid!
Why should anyone take a guy who wears a bowtie serious.
@RealPeace
The quote simply states, in a clever way I thought, that people who deny their creator in this life will know and believe when they meet him at their death.
@Bill Who?
"@RealPeace... "The quote simply states, in a clever way I thought, that people who deny their creator in this life will know and believe when they meet him at their death. "
Oh, o.k... so... You(or this quote) are as-suming that 1) There is a creator 2)There is a life after death 3)You will meet 'him' etc...
Should I go out on a limb here that said 'creator' is... the christian god ?
I mean, there certainly 'could' very well be a life after death. Doesn't mean it's going to be anything like christians, muslims, etc... think it is, yes ?
Peace...
Hey "smart one", your science that you love so much proves that things degrade over time instead of evolving into more complex forms of life. Sorry, but there are more scientist that can prove creation with scientific evidence withou bringing religion into the picture than scientists that will support the theory of evolution.
This Nye guy is clueless. What an idiotic thing, to think somehow we came from nothing?
Look up "virtual particle" sometime. It happens all the time in physics.
Creationism says that some guy made us. That sounds infinitely more ridiculous
I made the universe from nothing.
dexnew,
So tell us how God came from nothing and then created the universe from nothing.
You should really study the evolutionary process. You don't understand what Nye is saying.
It is completely reasonable to believe that life formed from non-life.
No "belief" is required.
Not just reasonable, it makes you really smart as well.