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August 28th, 2012
11:53 AM ET
Dolan to pray at Democratic National ConventionBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)–-Cardinal Timothy Dolan has accepted an invitation to give the closing prayer at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, next week, which will also feature a nun in a speaking role. Dolan, the archbishop of New York and president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, also will give the closing benediction at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida, on Thursday. When he accepted that invitation, Dolan said his appearance would be prayerful, not political, a sentiment reiterated by his spokesman in announcing his appearance at the DNC. "It was made clear to the Democratic Convention organizers, as it was to the Republicans, that the Cardinal was coming solely as a pastor, only to pray, not to endorse any party, platform, or candidate," cardinal spokesman Joseph Zwilling said. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories A nun who has been critical of the Republicans' federal budget will also have a speaking role at the Democratic convention, a source with the President Barack Obama's re-election campaign said Tuesday. Sister Simone Campbell, the executive director of a social justice group NETWORK, who helped lead a recent "nuns on the bus tour" against Rep. Paul Ryan's federal budget, will speak, the source said. Ryan is presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney's running mate. Stephanie Niedringhaus, a spokeswoman at NETWORK, said that Campbell would speak next Wednesday and that she was out of the country and unavailable for comment. Cardinal Dolan to offer closing prayer at Republican Convention The Vatican has been critical of American nuns recently, alleging that they have not focused enough on hot-button social issues and that they have given a platform for radical feminism at conferences. Typically, a local bishop would speak at a convention like this. Zwilling said that Dolan "consulted Bishop Peter Jugis of the Diocese of Charlotte, who gave the Cardinal his consent to take part in the convention that will be taking place in his diocese." Dolan's diocese is one of many in the midst of a lawsuit against the Obama administration over a Department of Health and Human Services mandate that forces employers to pay for contraceptives coverage for their employees. While churches and select other religious organizations are exempt, not all religiously affiliated groups are, and that has riled many religious groups that oppose contraceptives on religious grounds.
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Im certain that you athiests are spending an equal amount of time telling a bunch of muslims on other wesites how stupid they are as well, right. I mean, I would hate to think that y'all are religiously racist!
oh, whats that? Your afraid to call them names cause you might die?
A bully, by nature, picks on those that cannot (or will not) defend themselves....
Any religion based on Mohammed is gonna lick balls, because Mohammed does in fact lick balls.
-God Bless All
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Fuk Mohammed, fuk him up their stupid as.s.
-HeavenSent
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Mohammed is a one-note jokes that only retards follow. He is fuking clown shoes. If he were real I’d beat the sh.it out of him for being so stupid.
-Bootyfunk
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Mohammed is the worst prophet I have ever heard of. He is a stupid d.ildo. A loser with dumb-a.s.s parables like a third rate Moses or Bill and Ted.
-truth be told
Jesus and Mohammed
All you motherfukers are gonna pay! You are the ones who are the ball-lickers! We’re gonna fuk your mothers while you watch and cry like little whiney bi.tches. We’re gonna make you eat our sh.it, then sh.it out our sh.it and then eat your sh.it that’s made up of our sh.it that we made you eat!
Jesus and Mohammed are the worst prophets I have ever heard of. They are stupid d.ildos. A couple of losers with dumb-a.s.s parables like a third rate Moses or Bill and Ted.
All you motherfukers are gonna pay! You are the ones who are the ball-lickers! I'm gonna fuk your mothers while you watch and cry like little whiney bi.tches. I'm gonna make you eat my sh.it, then sh.it out my sh.it and then eat your sh.it that’s made up of my sh.it that I made you eat!
-Mohammed
" Im certain that you athiests are spending an equal amount of time telling a bunch of muslims on other wesites how stupid they are as well"
Typical brain dead Christian.
Muslims in America are not 1% as much problem as Christians, so we focus our attention on the biggest problem.
His Eminence is a buffoon. Stop being a politician and start being a Prince of the Church.
You keep stepping over His seeds that get blown by the wind to find their way to fertile grounds. Typical of swines trampling. My kids were born on a pool table. It's obsessive compulsion to grab at any straw to give a reason not to learn or understand.
Amen.
Maybe some old lady will get lucky there with him if he takes in Tampa like a "Prince Harry of the Church".
god bless all
It does not take a church to help. I participate in many activities to help the poor that are not faith based. This is the big fallacy, that in order to act with compassion you have to be religious. This is just not the case. Having said that, there are many good works directed by religious groups and I have and will join in their efforts even if I do not believe in their gods.
Big HUG & Kiss to you!
@wimmir – I'm very late in replying but thought I would anyway!
You are correct and I commend you for your works. I was trying to point out to @HeavenScence & @Bootyfunk that they can be part of the solution and the Church would be a good place to see Good Works in action. There are many many great charitable organizations to help the poor children of this world – not all of which are religious organizations.
So @HeavenScence & @Bootyfunk – have you been to your local church yet?? If not – please go or try one of your local children's charities and do something good for this world. Please!
Dolan is a bigoted pig, so I can understand why he would be at the RNC, but why on Earth would the DNC invite him!?
It will be interesting for the Catholics who watch the conventions to compare the receptions the Cardinal receives from the conventioneers.
It is very offensive to call a Catholic cardinal a "Bigoted pig". If Democratic thinking has devolved to nasty name calling this country is in terrible troubel. Let's be civil.
"why on Earth would the DNC invite him"
Do you know how many catholic voters there are?
Pretty sure it's illegal these days to pray at a political convention.
Pretty sure you're wrong
silly...a waste of time...foolishness.....yes.
illegal no
Are you saying that only the atheist religion can be preached anywhere, any time, in this day and age?
@ IO:
Back to 5th grade social studies for you. The conventions are each held by their respective parties. These parties are private organizations. They have the right to invite whoever they want and they can all pray for the duration of the whole week if they want....just like you can start a club, invite who you want to and pray or not as you wish.
@shameonu: "Are you saying that only the atheist religion can be preached anywhere, any time, in this day and age?"
Atheism will be a religion when bald becomes a hair color
Why should the party want Dolan, an open critic who has straight up espoused falsehoods about the Obama administration in order to push his agenda, anywhere near their convention?
What falsehoods would that be?
@ Patches:
"Why should the party want Dolan,"
For the same reason the RNC wants him – despite the fact that the USCCB has taken Paul Ryan to task for creating an immoral budget.
They both want the Catholic swing vote, neither party stands for all the Catholics believe, and they both know that American Catholics are just as lazy as any other voting demographic and will neither study the issues nor follow church teaching on how to form a conscience for citizenship.
Keep religion out of politics!
Keep religion out of politics, period.
Dolan is the you know what who threatened Obama with endless conflict over the end of Doma. of course there is a few things we need to know about him and his boss.
Dolan pays off molester priests , about 20k to leave. Its a lot cheaper then the megabuck the3 victims should get. Dolan is guity of conspiracy to obstruct justice, and should be in jail.
Shame on the dems for letting him "pray"
the repubs – well they have been molesting mentally our first black president since the day he was elected.
Just as they molested many of the people by bush's grand wall street experiments that led to teh 2nd great repub depression
http://nationalsurvivoradvocatescoalition.wordpress.com/editorials/ (ppopeputs fox in charge of molester henhouse.)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23369148-pope-led-cover-up-of-child-abuse-by-priests.do
It's interesting to see all the bashing of Christianity on this board, especially claims that believers are delusional and crazy. Since Obama describes himself as a Christian (as do Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, both Clintons, and many others) I assume that you consider them all delusional and crazy people. Where is the outrage over Obama's supposedly demented belief in God?
Not the people necessarily...just the belief.
christianity
juistified slavery as per the bible, and gave us the kkk and segregation
Gave the world the thousand year dark ages of zero social and economic progress and endless wars
Gave the world the hatred of Jews, which morphed into the Holocaust and the election of a mad catholic named hitler, and 55 million died
Gave the world the holy inquistion of torture and burnings at the stake for those considered heritics
Gave the world the pope who in 2009 UNexcommunicated Bishop williamson, a holocaust denier
The onlly question is whether christianity of Islam murdered more people over history.
Diederot, a french Philosopher said in 1789, during the struggle to break free of cabal of church and state "Mankind will be free when the last king is strangled with the guts of the last priest. Too bad we ran out of kings – we;ve got a lot of priests to go
Soe xtian groups believe that "the only way to the father is through the son" In effect they are condeming 5 billion non xtians to hell.
Nice religion.
here's the link re the pope , who grew up in Germany in the 1930s re the UNexcommunciation of a holocaust denier
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/erbe/2009/02/05/pope-should-excommunicate-holocaust-denying-bishop-williamson?msg=1 – comments
@ stan James:
Catechism of the Catholic Church
1463 Certain particularly grave sins incur excommunication, the most severe
ecclesiastical penalty, which impedes the reception of the sacraments and the exercise
of certain ecclesiastical acts, and for which absolution consequently cannot be granted,
according to canon law except by the Pope, the bishop of the place or priests authorized
by them.68 In danger of death any priest, even if deprived of faculties for hearing
confessions, can absolve from every sin and excommunication.69
Neither Bonnie Erbe, the Thomas Jefferson Street blog, or U.S. News & World Report have any authority to dictate Cannon Law or which offenses warrant excommunication under it. You have no authority to dictate which sins and excommunications are to be absolved.
Why? All that pedo will do is teoll both parties for stray pageboys.
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mama kindless news update: mama kindless for the first time in many years fell in love with a man named Bill Nye just yesterday. now this famous Mr. Nye is too young for me, but I guess you could say we have a spiritual affinity. my goodness.
It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. It keeps things simple for kids, and let's them be all that they can be. They just need to be taught that some things, like all religion, are just made up by salesmen and politicians from long ago; and that other things, like god, we really don't know a damn thing about.
Atheists have strong minds, and don't run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, disserving society).
So instead of praying to make-believe people, get a good cup of tea and go on and sit down and collect your damn thoughts. My goodness.
mama kindless
you go, mama!
Agnostics are clueless by definition.
Zort: Care to elaborate??
timothy dolan protects child molesters:
http://www.businessinsider.com/archbishop-timothy-dolan-offered-20000-to-priests-suspected-of-child-abuse-to-make-them-leave-the-priesthood-2012-5
basically, dolan tried to bribe a child molesting priest to leave the church in order to save the church the embarrassment of yet another child molester in their ranks. dolan cares more for keeping the church from looking bad than helping the children his priests s.exually abused.
yeah, dolan is a real good guy... hero to child molesters everywhere.
Go ahead and take a story out of context. But if you are going to shake the tree on severance packages, what about school administrators/teachers that are given severance in the six digits for their abuse of students.
God plz.
Really REALLY dumb move on the DNC's part. What were they thinking? Dolan admitted he paid off pedophile priests
He did not pay off. Get your story staight.
Catholics like Dolan have become far too powerful and power hungry in this country. Demanding the right to set social and health policy based on their faith rather than science is a serious threat to our freedom as Americans. It's time for all Americans, believers or not to take a stand against religious organizations that are more interested in taking over the governement than in serving the needy.
I am pretty sure science proves when life begins, at conception. The church agrees.
I wish this old fat queen would just stay home.
Hurray! Now both parties have the opportunity to hear the Gospel. Personally, I hope he tells them both how the cow ate the cabbage.
See this man Romney for what he is. He has deceived many including the faithful Father Dolan.
"He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. "
The Roman Church is easy to deceive.
i hope they have extra security at the convention to keep Dolan and his priest buddies away from the children...
Ho mo se xuals lied their way into the church to practice their evil on unsuspecting children. That does not depict either the church or the priesthood badly. The guilty criminals are those who committed the crimes not the organization they afflicted. What you are doing would be the same as declaring all banks criminal because there are bank robbers.
"Ho mo se xuals lied their way into the church to practice their evil on unsuspecting children."
calm your ignorant h.omophobia.
The tard "truth be told / HeavenSent / Atheism is Not . . / just sayin / etc. .etc. blabbed:
"Ho mo se xuals lied their way into the church to practice their evil on unsuspecting children. That does not depict either the church or the priesthood badly. The guilty criminals are those who committed the crimes not the organization they afflicted. What you are doing would be the same as declaring all banks criminal because there are bank robbers."
Wrong. Ho mo se xuality is a natural state of nature. Trying to make men celibate is unnatural and thus, the idiot Catholic and similar churches that apply celibacy will continue to have the problem.
Ho mo se xuality is and has always been a perversion of nature. Sorry if you are justifying yourself with that lie but the real world does not buy it.
Booty: They don't have a phobia...a phobia is fear and they don't fear these people, they hate them (without just cause mind you). Most phobia's can be treated and cured, hate never can.
TruthPrevail
Are you defending abuse by Priests? Almost all abuse was older men on boys. At what level do you defend this?
Does that red herring taste delicious fred?
Fred: No, I'm defending hmosexuality. These priests don't give a rats ass if it is male or female they abuse...they are peds, typically speaking peds don't care. Priests tend to have more access to boys, thus the reason it is so prevalent.
The assumption that all homosexuals are peds is not much different than saying all people of native status are alcoholics. It is simply irrational.
I would never support pedophiles in any way (ask the idiot I helped put away for 10 years)...they cause damage to our world. I do however support homosexuals...they harm no-one by being who they are.
TruthPrevails 🙂
“These priests don't give a rats a-ss if it is male or female”
=>suggest you get the facts as 78-82% of cases were older men abusing boys not children !
“they are peds, typically speaking peds don't care”
=>Wrong wrong wrong. And not supported by the facts. Those priests accused were predominantly ho-mo$exual. The correct term based on the facts of the abuses is Euphebophilia. It is not politically correct so the abuse continues to be covered up by well intended people such as yourself.
“ Priests tend to have more access to boys, thus the reason it is so prevalent.”
=>wrong again. Priests actually have the lowest incidence of Euphebophilia.
“The as-sumption that all ho-mo$exuals are peds”
=>all is the wrong word but the majority of Euphebophilia is hom-o$exual.
“all people of native status are alcoholics. It is simply irrational.”
=>you are using the word the all so stop being irrational
“ I do however support hom-o$exuals...they harm no-one by being who they are.”
=>the issue is immorality not hom-o$exual or any other choice. I support hom-o$exuals as well but I do not support immorality.
@fred
You d not support homosexuals fred. That's just a bald faced lie on your part. Unless you're talking about supporting trying to "cure" them and causing mental harm.
I wrote: "Wrong. Ho mo se xuality is a natural state of nature. Trying to make men celibate is unnatural and thus, the idiot Catholic and similar churches that apply celibacy will continue to have the problem."
and that idiot "truth be told" blabbed: "Ho mo se xuality is and has always been a perversion of nature. Sorry if you are justifying yourself with that lie but the real world does not buy it."
Wrong – ho mo se xuality is a natural state of nature. Trying to make men celibate and also in a position of authority unparalleled by women is unnatural and thus, the idiot Catholic and similar churches that apply that type of celibacy will continue to have the problem."
Fred: My point is simply that you're painting homosexuals with a broad brush by claiming all these priests are homosexuals peds. There are straight priests also and this shouldn't be a discussion regardless-these pigs need rounded up, stuck in some deep dark pit with no tv or contact of any form with the outside world.
One other thing though...my original post had nothing to do with the priests...you made the dumb ass assumption DUMB ASS,/b>. (my original post:They don't have a phobia...a phobia is fear and they don't fear these people, they hate them (without just cause mind you). Most phobia's can be treated and cured, hate never can.) So how you got that I support these wastes of human flesh is beyond me.
"The study by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York instead said that the problem was largely the result of poor seminary training and insuffiicient emotional support for men ordained in the 1940s and 1950s, who were not able to withstand the social upheaval they confronted as pastors in the 1960's. Crime and other deviant behavior increased overall in the United States during this period, when the rate of abuse by priets was climbing.
"The rise in abuse cases in the 1960s and 1970s was influenced by social factors in society generally," the report’s authors said. "Factors that were invariant during the time period addressed, such as celibacy, were not responsible for the increase or decline in abuse cases over this time.""
(sourced from http://wglb-tv.blogspot.ca/2011/05/study-gays-not-to-blame-for-pedophile.html)
hawaiiguest
Hom-mo$exuality is not a healthy life style and everyone should be alarmed and concerned. The median age of death is 42 compared with 75 for a hetero$exual man. Lesbians are not much better at 45 verses 79 for a married hetero&exual woman.
Tell me why anyone would not be concerned !
TruthPrevails 🙂
Your post was directed to booty which was about priests and children.
A grand cover-up over the ho-mo$exual nature of the abuse in the Church continues by the liberal politrical agenda. The actual incidence of abuse was well below other inst-itutions that failed to protect the innocent. It is difficult to get the truth which makes helping the gay community and abused children very difficult.
As to your justification for immoral behaviour the socioeconomic environment cited cannot cause one to become gay. Based on that alone I dismiss your source as bias (other than the fact it is New York)
@fred
And what studies can you cite that shows a direct causation?
Hawaiiguest
The reduction in lifespan is directly related to lifestyle. Higher mortality associated with higher rates of STD’s, suicide, alcohol and drug use. Are you seriously not aware of these statistics?
@fred
Can you draw a causation between being gay and commiting suicide, drugs and alcohol on its own? Nope, do you want to know why? Because being gay does not make you a junkie, or suicidal, unless of course your religious parents or schoolmates are slamming into your head that you're an evil pile of shit for being as you are.
I did notice that you gave absolutely no citations, not that I'm surprised by that.
Hawaiiguest
Certainly no one would doubt that self image incorporates inputs from the socioeconomic and cultural influences in ones life. To say Christians make gays act out in $exually irresponsible ways is a big leap even for you. Low self esteem is a common factor in $exual immorality regardless of orientation but it is not God or the Christians that are to blame.
If hom-o$exuals followed the clear teachings of the Bible or Islam their death rate would be lower than the general population (i.e. they would on average live longer than others rather than shorter) in the U.S.
@fred
That is a completely unsupported assertion on your part fred. Also, you still seem to be laboring under the intense delusion that orientation is a choice. Their death rate would also be lower if people accepted that orientation is not a choice, and top using the "good book" to discriminate. Blacks used to have a really low average age as well, mostly for the same reasons gays currently have a low average age.
Your bigoted religious bullshit is only a fact to you fred, but guess what, reality doesn't form around your opinions.
Also, still no citations.
Prayer changes things.
actions cause change; prayer wastes valuable time.
unclasp your hands. get off your knees. go outside. think for yourself. put those hands to work.
@bippyfink
Hands working without a plan are useless. Prayer provides the perfect plan. A good man prays a great man acts on prayer. You do not qualify for either one. God bless
you don't know what the word 'plan' means. 'plan' and 'prayer' are not the same. do you own a dictionary? any book except the bible?
i have an idea. let's build houses. i will actually make a plan for building my house - you pray that god guide's your hand and your house turns out well. let's see who's house is livable afterwards, the one who planned out the project or the one that prayed instead of planned.
when you pray, you talk to yourself and waste time.
Then let Cardinal Dolan pray for his own soul.
AtheismNotHealthy -2
Bootyfunk-0
Ned forgot to mention it's points for delusional thought.
People with dementia can repeat themselves over and over again, by telling a repeat a word or phrase.
@troll
I notice you keep repeating yourself. Self diagnosis or an unintended cry for help?
@truth be told
LOL Are you seriously slamming someone for repeating the same thing? Considering that you, the original poster, and just sayin all repeat yourselves multiple times per day, I don't think you would have a leg to stand on there.
The "Doxology" is a song sung in millions of Christian churches around the world every Sunday. It opens with this sentence:
Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
With that one sentence we can prove that God is imaginary, just like Santa Claus.
We can prove that Santa is imaginary in a variety of ways, but here is one way: we note that he brings mountains of toys to rich kids while leaving other kids to starve to death. In the same way, we can prove that God is imaginary by noting the imbalance of his blessings. If God existed and handed out blessings as described in the Doxology, then the blessings would be spread uniformly among his believers. And non-believers would get none. As a result, the hand of God, through his blessings, would be plainly visible for all to see through statistical analysis.
Let us suppose that God is real and that all blessings actually do flow from him. If that is the case, then the utter unfairness with which he disperses his blessings is proof positive that God is ridiculous. If all blessings flow from God, then the fact that Bill Gates is worth $70 billion while 10 million children will starve to death this year is specifically God's fault. That is ridiculous.
Here is a typical church in Raleigh, NC: Colonial Baptist Church
The church's web site has this to say: "In May of 1993 the church fellowship voted unanimously to relocate our church campus. As a result of God's gracious plan, our Tryon site almost immediately became inadequate to facilitate our growing numbers. Thus, the church body once again demonstrated its pioneering spirit, faith and vision—vision to be a church not only blessed with a wonderful past, but faith and trust in God for an enduring, effective future. As of May 21, 1996, we became the owners of 33 acres on which to build our new facilities. Praise God from whom all blessings flow!" This church has soccer fields, indoor basketball courts, dozens of meeting rooms and classrooms, several buses, a library, a huge sanctuary and ample free parking.
One obvious question to ask after reading the church's statement is this: If all blessings flow from God, then why are his blessings so amazingly unbalanced? Why are tens of thousands of children dying of starvation every day on this planet, while Colonial Baptist Church is blessed with such wealth? Why wouldn't God spread his blessings evenly among all his children? Answer: Because God is imaginary.
Did not read all your drivel but enough to reply to a couple items you really laid an egg on. God is not measured by cash so your Bill Gates thing goes south quickly. And you were told by God to care for the starving children in this world. Caring for the needy is left to your care and frankly you are doing a lousy job.
if god is all powerful, don't see why he can't help the needy. in fact, if you can feed people with the snap of your fingers, but decide to watch them starve instead - you're evil. god is evil. he could help, but doesn't.
God instructed you to feed the hungry. It is your job to care for the needy and you too are lousy at it.
and yet god could feed the masses with the blink of an eye, but chooses not to. he instructed humans and humans failed. so god's decision is that since humans failed, he's just going to let babies starve to death? why punish the starving babies?
@HeavenScence & @Bootyfunk – Reading your posts, I can tell you are deeply troubled by the poor children of this world. Rightly so. Take this as a sign, please – Go to your local Catholic Church (or any church) and ask how you can help – they will have many many ways you can carry out God's work and be part of the solution, not just someone who b itches on about how unjust God is. Please, go and help those less fortunate than yourself and see the power God has when we all work together. It will change your life, forever.