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 Commenters were fired up about Bill Nye, creationism and evolution.
August 28th, 2012
10:37 AM ET
Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critiqueBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN) - Bill Nye does not think that children should be taught to deny evolution, and a YouTube video of him explaining why has gone viral. The CNN Belief Blog's report on the video has generated around 10,000 comments and thousands of Facebook shares since Monday. There were some broad themes in the comments, reflecting a debate that is largely unique to the United States. While Christianity is booming in Africa, Asia and Latin America, creationism is not, Penn State University religious studies professor Philip Jenkins writes in his book "The New Faces of Christianity: Believing the Bible in the Global South." Here are five schools of reaction that have emerged in comments: 1. Those using this controversy to bash religion Atheists love the Internet, as we've chronicled on the Belief Blog. While they may be a small portion of the population, they seem to make up about half our commenters. It was their chance to join with Nye and cheer him on:
2. Those who say wait a minute, being a creationist isn’t necessarily being anti-evolution Lots of folks from the theistic evolution camp came out to say that believing God was involved doesn't automatically make you anti-evolution.
3. Those who say that science is stupid and that young Earth creationism rules Young Earth creationists, who believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old, appeared to be out in force in the comments.
4. Those who say Nye should stick to his area of expertise This tweet was the most polite remark we could find on this subject. Other comments and tweets, not so much.
[tweet https://twitter.com/watsup1101/status/240168918109523968%5D 5. Those who say CNN is cooking up controversy where none exists Lots of people suggested we were generating a story instead of covering one.
For the record, plenty of other news outlets covered this story, pointing out that Nye's video was posted on YouTube just before the Republican National Convention opened. Turns out that Nye taped the segment awhile back and had no say in when it would be released. Thanks for chiming in. The comments are open here, and you can always hit us up on Twitter @CNNBelief. soundoff (2,811 Responses)1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Next »
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My Favorite part of the BuyBull is when Gawd gives people Free Will and then kills everyone with a flood for not acting the way he wants. Yea, there's the LOVE!
Wash, rinse, and repeat.
Dose: he's lettin' YOU live. Well, for now, anyway...
Read Genesis 6 1-4 very carefully. Are you really willing to make fun of that little story?
Repent Bill, so that God may be merciful on your soul! Denounce your wicked and sinful ways!
lolz thx
Actually, creationism is not a theory. It's a belief that is promulgated by those who interpret certain passages of a group of texts collected into various versions of the "Bible." Its power lies in the fact that people evolved with a gullibility that apparently had survival value. Whether humans can transcend their animal nature and recognize this is another matter.
Humans are the only beings on earth that developed religion, due to their larger brains, so I wouldn't be so derogatory about it's source. But yes, there is the question of whether we can transcend it.
meme: atheism–also a belief.
"""atheism–also a belief."""
No, Bob, it isn't. Please consult a dictionary. That's a book – like the bible.
FajitaBob. meme: atheism–also a belief.
Bob, you could not be more wrong if you tried. Belief in fairy tales= Religion. Science=Knowledge.
What created you computer? Science. Have never seen a religion make, well, anything
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fajitabob, the word itself means "NOT a belief."
Atheism is defined either as not believing in God, or the belief that God does not exist. So, you're both right.
This might be naive of me, but how that one letter writer be a "firsthand witness of the risen Christ"? Doesn't that mean he'd have had to be there when it actually supposedly happened?
Yea, and don't you forget it! haha lolzrite
That was me in my god costume... you shoulda seen the look on that guys face... like he just saw a g-g-g-ghost! oh wait...
Thank You, Al Gore.
To whomever said "creationism isn't taught in public schools," I give you Tennesee, Indiana, Kansas and Texas. You are simply wrong.
Although I wish that it was correct.
That is in violation of the first amendment if it is taught as fact.
Since when did the religious right give a crap about the first amendment as long as it's their religious crap being taught?
I'm from Kansas, I was in honors biology in high school and not one word was spoken about creationism. That was in 1999, have things changed since then or am I missing something? We did have to take home a flier and have our parents sign it stating that is was ok for us to learn evolution the correct way taught by our teacher who by the way won all kinds of awards for being an outstanding teacher. Thank you Dr. Hampton for being a great teacher and not teaching creationism, even though I don't think you were supposed to like this poster thinks.
Happened within the last few years.
Evolution is the primary process taught in schools. My nephew brought up creationism in his 7th grade science class. The teacher informed him that creationism was a falsehood and would never be accepted by higher intellect people. He told the teacher that many intelligent people had found it to be in line with evolution. That "higher intellect "teacher couldn't disprove him so off to the principle went my nephew for not conforming to classroom subject. This seems to be typical response from the non-believers. They don't believe, so it cannot be discussed.
It should not be discussed in science class because it is not science. Evolution is science, creationism is religious assertions.
@withanh2 I smell a fib...
Science is not a belief system. There is nothing esoteric about the scientific method and its exhaustive and self-correcting methods. It is the most reliable way to understand Earth, living things, medicine, disease, human psychology, the universe, etc. Science revels in criticism, critical thinking, reason, patience, and the objective. Religion/Faith revels in ignorance, magic, wishful thinking, black & white thinking, the absurd, hate, lies, coercion, and the subjective. The faithful would have astrology taught alongside astronomy and metaphysics alongside physics. Evolution explains our biology without a god Science explains the natural and does not need the concept of god get there. If you attempt to add “god” to your approach to finding out how the natural world works, you would never get the definitive answer to anything. “Why does the apple fall when I drop it from my hand?” “Because a god forces it down.” “Where the sun sets, is that the end of the world?” “Yes, that must be a god and his chariot flying through the heavens.” <– Throwing God into the equation does not answer a thing. Go ahead try it. (16)3 + God = Any number you chose.
thank you..that was a wonderful response.
(16)3+God= INFINITY. I win!!
Checkmate atheists!
(16)3 + God = Infinity +1. I win!
Wow, God made you write that?
Come on theists! Don't any of you have the jewels to enter god into a mathematical equation? Math is considered by most to Come on theists! Don't any of you have the jewels to enter god into a mathematical equation? Math is considered by most to be a "universal language" that is used in every scientific endeavor. Any form of engineering requires math. Building a house, using carpentry and masonry skills, and inserting god into the necessary mathematical equations would end with disastrous results. Try adding “god” into the Pythagorean Theorem and see what happens. The square of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides. The square of side A plus the square of side GOD equals the square of side Nothing. I’m sure one of you will attempt to answer with some esoteric response, but science is not esoteric. Just as science is not an esoteric belief system. Science has reduced astrology to a laughable column next to the “funny pages”. Religion is moving ever closer to the same place.
Come on theists! Don't any of you have the jewels to enter god into a mathematical equation? Math is considered by most to be a universal language that is used in every scientific endeavor. Any form of engineering requires math. Building a house, using carpentry and masonry skills, and inserting god into the necessary mathematical equations would end with disastrous results. Try adding god into the Pythagorean Theorem and see what happens. The square of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides. The square of side A plus the square of side GOD equals the square of side Nothing. I’m sure one of you will attempt to answer with some esoteric response, but science is not esoteric. Just as science is not an esoteric belief system. Science has reduced astrology to a laughable column next to the funny pages. Religion is moving ever closer to the same place.
How about those that point out that Bill Nye has no scientific credentials what so ever and is really a comedian and a celebrity.
Engineering is not a science?
Those people would employ a genetic fallacy. I know you're not one of those Dave.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#Genetic
Now there's a hater for you.
Bill Nye is a graduate of Cornell with a Bachelors of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering. He holds three Honorary Doctorate degrees from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Goucher College, and Johns Hopkins. Bill has served as Vice President of The Planetary Society, the world’s largest space-interest group.
Hey Dave, and those 'so called scientist' that graduated from christain universities are more qualified than an engineer from Cornell?
Correct – an undergraduate degree in Mechanical engineering from an American university is not a scientific qualification. As far as B.S. degree is concerned, the S is completely irrelevant. My daughter has a B.S. in Theater Studies. With regard to honorary degrees, they are entirely meaningless in terms of actual qualifications. Bill Nye, who I've met in person and who I have no regard for whatsoever as a person, let alone a scientist, is, in my opinion, an arrogant conceited individual who's let his success in the entertainment industry go to his head.
hey dummy your daughter has a B.A. in Theater. Arts.
John – quit with the name calling. Clearly you know nothing about the assignment of degrees at universities. I assure you I know exactly what degree she has. I should, I paid for her to get it. As a former university professor I stand by my comment regarding a BS in Mech Eng. I taught engineers at a better engineering department than Cornell's Mech Eng dept.
Where do you think scientist come from? Do you think there is a "Science Degree." You're complete lack of knowledge regarding this area is embarassing. People like you are exactly why Bill Nye was compelled to record this message. Go get a degree in engineering and then tell me it has nothing to do with science. (I got mine in electrical engineering.)
Matt, I have 3 degrees in Engineering. My first was from Imperial College of Science and Technology in EE (look it up then come back here and tell me about my lack of knowledge). I virtually guarantee it's a more highly regarded university than your's.
I guess he has no more credentials in science from a lifetime in the field than the Pope or any other religious figurehead. Go back to making waffles and I'll take mine over easy!
I am not sure how his academic credentials have any bearing on the subject. Are you trying to argue that because he doesn't have a graduate degree in biology, that somehow debunks the theory of evolution, or that he loses the right to discuss the topic? He is an intelligent person with an undergraduate degree from a prestigious university who has spent his life in the sciences. I think he has the right to speak his mind, particularly when he is simply re-iterating the position of 99.9% of the people with advanced degrees in this field.
@A scientist
As previously stated, Bill Nye is NOT a scientist (as far as I'm concerned I've already established that so I won't bother restating why). Bill Nye IS a comedian and an entertainer who's pay check comes from the entertainment industry. Although I haven't specifically spelled that out I'm sure anyone who wants to can discover that I am correct in this assertion. Back in the late 80's he found it more lucrative to work in television than work for Boeing. Perhaps he couldn't cut it as a professional engineer anymore. His scientist "persona" is just that, an assumed persona that he portrays on TV. Everything he says is simply regurgitated material from real scientists and leaders in their fields.
Attacking Nye or his credentials does not have any bearing on the veracity of evolutionary theory, science, or the existence or non existence of a God, god, or intervening deity. The ONLY thing that matters is EVIDENCE!
"Everything he says is simply regurgitated material from real scientists and leaders in their fields."
So he's not a real scientist, he just says the same thing as real scientists?
Um, well, thanks for clarifying that for use... I guess...
Dave, Hate to tell you but Cornell scores significantly higher than Imperial in world universities rankings.
I actually know people with a BS in Liberal Arts. No joke.
@ sqeptiq
Or infact, not. http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk World University Rankings 2011-2012: Imperial College London, # 8, Cornell University #20. Not that 20 is bad mind you. In general IC ranks higher in engineering than Cornell in all rankings. Not that I put much weight in rankings versus the actual experience of a given student.
I can't believe someone mentioned three honorary degrees. It's harder to become a notary public than to get an honorary degree. He is an engineer. There have been Christian and atheist engineers so I do question Bill's so called scientific expertise. As an educated Christian I am willing to concede there are questions about creation. The problem is those questions are not solved by the theory of evolution that is full of holes as well. Unfortunately evolutionist are not willing to concede problems with their religion(belief in something unproven is a religion), so they resort to name calling.
A scientist is someone who does science well. Most people who do science well have credentials, but that isn't always the case.
If someone has a Phd in Physics and works in advertising (with no science on the side as a hobby), is he more of a scientist than a lawyer who does amature astronomy full time after retiring?
@Bob – There is never perfect knowledge, but the evidence, pulled from every relevant scientific discipline, leaves no reasonable doubt. To deny evolution is effectively to deny every contributing scientific discipline as so hopelessly flawed as to be completely useless (a proposition an educated Christian must assuredly reject). Those who reject evolution are either unfamiliar with the actual evidence or possess unreasonable doubts for fear of conflict with their a priori religious beliefs. Regarding the holes you mention, feel free to cross reference them against this archive and then return and present the "holes" that haven't already been addressed.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
I enjoy watching the debate. It seems to be between people who want to be special to and loved by a Creator God and people who are interested in the origin of life.
Evolution really doesn't address the origin of life.
@Dan
It's not meant to.
Herewith the initial comment that I posted in response to Bill Nye's YouTube video –
Bill,
Every single person who believes in a God who created the Universe is a Creationist albeit not necessarily a Biblical Creationist. Evolution aka natural selection is not incompatible with a basic belief in a Creator of the Universe. In fact the Roman Catholic church has officially acknowledged the reality of evolution if I am not mistaken.
Evolution may indeed be "the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology" but it does not explain the initial creation of life forms...
end quote
Bill seems to be overstating things a bit when he asserts that denial of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution aka natural selection is "completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe". He is certainly somewhat off-base if his words are intended to suggest that belief in God is "completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe" as *some* people quoting him would seem to be construing his words. . .
If you believe in a God who created everything 6000-1000 years ago, then yes, your beliefs are inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe.
Uhhh, evolution is not also known as natural selection. Natural selection is the extinction of species that did not evolve to meet the demands of their environment. Example: Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals were not 2 points in an evolutionary line, but rather two separate species of upright-walking hominids; they coexisted, but one was smarter and more dominant, and the other died off. The better equipped species was "Naturually Selected" to survive and endure over its less sophisticated counterpart, which was naturally selected for extinction.
Actually, I think the Big Bang Theory was created by a christian. I read that not too long ago.
Specifically, Georges-Henri LeMaitre, a Jesuit priest. Athiests were upset about the Big Bang theory because it implied a creation, and countered with the Steady State Theory in the 1940s. Since then, the Steady State Theory has been disproven, and the Big Bang Theory has been shown to be correct, vindicating a form of "Creationism", which not only explains "let there be light" (the early universe was dominated by radiation – light), but explains of separation of light and darkness – the decoupling era, about 300,000 earth years after the big bang, when the universe cooled below the ionization energy of hydrogen, allowing it to become transparent for the first time. None of this proves the existence of a "Creator", but it leaves the door open.
@ Dusty- No, the Big Bang Theory doesn't leave the door open for a creator.Where would the creator fit in? He caused the singular event and then stepped out of the picture? I don't see any room for your creator; perhaps you could give me some idea as to his/her role? Thanks!
Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître (About this sound lemaitre.ogg (help·info) 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the Catholic University of Louvain. He was the first person to propose the theory of the expansion of the Universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble[1][2]. He was also the first to derive what is now known as the Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[3][4][5][6] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his 'hypothesis of the primeval atom'.[7][8] As he was a secular priest, he was called Abbé, then, after being made a canon, Monseigneur.
Besides the dinosaurs and other fossils in our evolutionary process:
As per National Geographic's Genographic project:
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/
" DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who about 60,000 years ago began a remarkable journey. Follow the journey from them to you as written in your genes”.
"Adam" is the common male ancestor of every living man. He lived in Africa some 60,000 years ago, which means that all humans lived in Africa at least at that time.
Unlike his Biblical namesake, this Adam was not the only man alive in his era. Rather, he is unique because his descendents are the only ones to survive.
It is important to note that Adam does not literally represent the first human. He is the coalescence point of all the genetic diversity."
For your $99 and a DNA swab:
"Included in the markers we will test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our hominin cousins, Neanderthals and the newly discovered Denisovans, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago. As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals and Denisovans were still alive and well in Eurasia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA in your genome."
TRUE!
@Reality,
don't be a sock puppet. It's embarrassing.
It always amazes me how Creationists and Young Earth believers are terrified of their children being exposed to Evolution. It is almost as if their faith wasn't strong enough in the face of criticism. If they truly believed then they wouldn't have to rant about the "lack of proof" of evolution even though we can witness it based on observations over the generations.
In the two million years since we went from an arboreal based lifestyle to a terrestrial based our 5th finger has gotten shorter (this has even been noted drastically in the past 4000 years of burials), and our jaws have gotten narrower forcing out the space for our wisdom teeth (which has made the field of Orthodontics extremely profitable).
Average height, occurance of body hair, skin pigmentation, ability to process certain foods- all have notably changed even in just the last few thousand years of recorded history, and very depending on location and populations. But no, there's no evidence that evolution is real.
"It always amazes me how Creationists and Young Earth believers are terrified of their children being exposed to Evolution."
What concerns me more is NOT being able to expose my kids to BOTH concepts. They, my kids, can formulate their own opinions and convictions and DO NOT need to be artificially restricted by the myopic views from either side. Those who preach against creationism are just as bad as those who rail against evolution theory.
To quote from a song "It's My Life" by The Animals, "It's my life and I'll do what I want. It's my mind and I'll think like I want." This is the legacy I'm giving my children.
BRC, there is no evidence?!?! what an uneducated statement, there are hundreds/thousands of books and studies, research by thousands of scientists, some christians some not...evolution is REAL....it's a proven theory and i would put that against your ONE book that was written when everyone thought the earth was flat.
traveler, what you teach YOUR kids at HOME is your business and i have NO problem with you doing that, but in a school putting a religious belief on the same level has scientific research is just plain nonsense. keep your religious beliefs at home and church were they belong.
Hobbes needs to learn how to pick up on sarcasm.
"""Those who preach against creationism are just as bad as those who rail against evolution theory."""
Not really. You're comparing apples to oranges. One camp wants to teach facts, the other wants to instill faith.
If you want your children to be properly educated the choice is clear. If you want them to be an expert in fables and/or mythology the choice is also clear. The choice is yours. Go for it. But NOT in public schools.
TheTraveler: Creationism has no place in a science class because there is no scientific evidence to support it, and there is strong scientific evidence against "young earth" creationism. It sounds nice to say that they should teach "both sides," but by that logic presumably you would want every religious origins story to be taught. Of course, this is unrealistic.
Put simply, giving equal weight to every theory and myth, regardless of the evidence, is not being "fair." Teaching kids incorrect information out of some politically correct ideal of presenting both sides does them a huge disservice. We don't teach our kids the correct way to do addition and the wrong way, just to give them both sides; we teach what is accurate and supported by evidence.
You are welcome to teach your kid your religious values and stories, but they have no place in a science class.
Traveler, the flaw in your desire is that this is not a matter of opinion. Leaving children to form an opinion between fact and fiction is laughable and irresponsible. Would you tell them that, to you, they are both equal theories? Or would you tell them that one has evidence, and one has conjecture based on a flawed premise, and STILL let them decide and form their own opinion? Like I said, it isn't a matter of opinion.WShat you'rte treaching in that case is to ignore facts and come up with weak conclusions. Not too many winners come out of that mold.
There is also a group of people (like myself) that are informed about science and like to educate. There are a lot of people that have basic science and evolution questions. People ask where is the “missing link”? Why can’t evolution and creationism (as told in the Bible) co-exist? If humans evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys? Good questions that do have answers. We just need more people educated in science to answer these questions. That is what my group does.
"evolved from"
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Please think about this....REALLY hard as to your questions of why there are still monkeys. Then take some basic courses because you are clearly ignorant.
@Chad the disingenuous,
Chad, you should be ashamed of yourself.
You can do so much better than to resort to such stock canards as "If humans evolved from monkeys when you know full well what the theory of evolution says regarding the multiple species of primates.
You are better than this. Be the theist evolutionist you claim you are and don't write nonsense like this. And you wonder why people accuse you of lying?
If god created man from dirt, why is there still dirt? Checkmate idiots!
The utter worthlessness of religion is exceeded only by the damage and madness it causes.
Chad
If your group "does this" maybe you should start with getting it right.
We are APES not monkeys, descending along a different path, but ultimately with common ancestors.
Just look at the DNA similarities and you will have better questions and answers.
From what I have seen from Chad...his statements have very little validity. So much, I have to wonder if he is an Atheist playing a Christian.
This poster posts under multiple handles on both sides.
Chad, I left some references for you on the Tuesday Speed Read.
Hmmm... You're right. It doesn't really sound like Chad.
Human beings, chimpanzees, gorillas, howler monkeys, bonobos, orangutans are all types of primates.
We all had a common ancestor from which we may have descended but no human developed from any of the present species of monkey or other apes. If you don't understand this process look it up. If you can't be bothered to look it up, perhaps you should keep quiet. Spreading ignorance does no one any good.
@Zortblot..."Checkmate"?!?!...LOL!! Intel makes microprocessors from silicon, why is there still silicon? Oh, you and I have to play chess sometime. Bring lots of money.
Without men to write for the Gods, the Gods cease to exist. On the expiration date of Christianity, we will put the bible next to the other mythical Gods in our libraries. Fear and ignorance run hand in hand. The masses/sheep will always need some form of a God to give them comfort.
one question: How was you borned – were you conceived or did you just happen. Can you explain your birth process Mr. Nye
Wow. Tip – avoid trying out for Jeopardy!
I believe the correct question would be "How were you born?". For the answer you should simply ask your mother.
I'm pretty sure he can.
@midwest rail
attaboy!
Prayer changes things
Good afternoon prayer-bot.
Still forgeting the first law of robotics:
1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
It's time to shut down now.
People with dementia can repeat themselves over and over again, by telling a repeat a word or phrase.
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things".
The evidence against your statement and your name is overwhelming. Perhaps I can help by knowing how you arrived at these falsehoods?
"People with dementia can repeat themselves over and over again, by telling a repeat a word or phrase."
Explains HeavenSent
Please google "2.4 million dollar prayer study". This was the largest and most expensive study of its kind. A religious organization (John Templeton) funded this study to show that praying would have a positive affect on heart patients. Which is what you would expect if prayer was doing something. What they found was surprising, not only did the people praying and being prayed for not do better, they actually did worse. Everyone should read this.
I'm sorry Chad, but the christian lobby has found ways to buy many things, including unfounded tests. As an example of efforts to reduce this kind of evidence tampering, consider the the ideals of the jury selection process. Please let me know if I can be of any further help Chad.
Prayer changes YOUR perception but does not change reality. Besides why are you praying? You too weak of a person to get it done on your own? Oh yes thats right God is treating you more special than me.....or that guy....guess that girl with cancer doesn't have your praying skills.
Im not "creationist" as taught in churches. But who cares what Bill Nye thinks anyway? Let him keep doing his science and bringing more understanding to what we as humans know about the universe. The arrogance of man is that they think in their SHORT lifespans time they can understand life and the universe itself. They cannot. Most scientific data changes every few decades as theories are proposed and debunked. Some of us have humble hearts. Others do not.
The joy of the scientific method is the legacy it leaves for future scientists.
Becuase every hypothesis is meticulously doc/umented and all experiments carefully calibrated, the results can be verfieid again and again by future researchers who then can expand on the work.
Every answer discovered by science opens up countless new questions!
All scientific advancement is based on prior data.
It may take several lifetimes of dozens of groups of researchers to attain positive results – but that is no deterrent to the scientific mind.
Generally speaking, researchers simply want to add to the data pool.
I dont think Nye is acting like he did it all by himself or he is the know-it-all guy. The knowledge has been passed in print from one generation to the next and is there for all to verify and refute.
Try meeting some scientists – humility is their virtue. You simply cannot succeed if you live in arrogance.
Some people are just feeling offended bcoz he says (like the rest of the scientific world) that Creationism is not a theory. Prove it and we will accept it.
Um, many people care what he thinks. He is well known in the science community and his show educated millions of American children in the wonders of science.
Bill Nye is the reason I went into Aerospace Engineering.
mama kindless news update: mama kindless for the first time in many years fell in love with a man named Bill Nye just yesterday. now this famous Mr. Nye is too young for me, but I guess you could say we have a spiritual affinity. my goodness.
It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. It keeps things simple for kids, and let's them be all that they can be. They just need to be taught that some things, like all religion, are just made up by salesmen and politicians from long ago; and that other things, like god, we really don't know a damn thing about.
Atheists have strong minds, and don't run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, disserving society).
So instead of praying to make-believe people, get a good cup of tea and go on and sit down and collect your damn thoughts. My goodness.
mama kindless
At 11,000 posts in almost 27 hours, the CNN Belief Blog got their money's worth on the "Bill Nye slams creationism" topic.
Has there been another topic with a similar rate of posting?
@agnostic...
nope
Rope-a-dope the nope!
about nope, snopes says nope
Other places get more hits per minute than both CNN and Fox combined. If you don't know where, I'm not going to tell you.
Mama – it is my assertion that atheists have weak minds. They can no step beyond only those things that they can see or touch. Others are willing to ask difficult questions such as how can such a complex universe be the reult of an explosion, and defy the fundamental laws of thermodynamics? Why can't there be some Grand Designer who laid out the plans for the universe and caused it to come into being? How is Christianity (or any other number of religions) incompatible with evolution? Also, why do so many atheists seem to gravitate to a page on faith and feel the need to comment here? What are you searching for that you haven't been able to find?
@John
I pretty much can imagine things. I have been living with an imaginary perfect husband for 2 yrs now (coz I cant fond the perfect one in real life). I cant touch him or see him, I still sleep with him.
I believe he creates my meals, I believe he lends me a shoulder when I need one, I believe he sits in my lap and drives the car, I believe he is god!
@John,
Science has no problem with religion. Science doesnot even comment on God.
Religion has a problem here. Are you missing the whole story here? The Theroy of Evolution is being challenged by an alternative concept (now please understand there is a BIG difference bw theory and possibility) – that if creationism. I will have no issues if you want to teach your kids that god created the earth. But do not put it in my child's science textbook. Bcoz as of today, the concept of Creationist has not been proven. That is what it is. Keep you religion out of my science.
"""What are you searching for that you haven't been able to find?"""
1) Humor. This is wildly entertaining. We're playing with you. Most of us know you have been brainwashed as children to believe and defend your faith as adults no matter what facts may interfere with it.
2) Education, since the posts here clearly indicate a general lack of critical thinking in the general population. .
Thank you Jeff. John thinks a non believer is here to learn or bash, we just are glad to hear when more and more folks challenge the religious part of our culture and press them to listen. The Christian right hates to listen so it entertainment
bill nye didnt slam anything it is the loony ideas that slam themselves....
U all make fun of mormons but think your own fairy tales are better cuz they've had 2000 years to EVOLVE
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