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 Commenters were fired up about Bill Nye, creationism and evolution.
August 28th, 2012
10:37 AM ET
Your Take: 5 reactions to Bill Nye's creationism critiqueBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN) - Bill Nye does not think that children should be taught to deny evolution, and a YouTube video of him explaining why has gone viral. The CNN Belief Blog's report on the video has generated around 10,000 comments and thousands of Facebook shares since Monday. There were some broad themes in the comments, reflecting a debate that is largely unique to the United States. While Christianity is booming in Africa, Asia and Latin America, creationism is not, Penn State University religious studies professor Philip Jenkins writes in his book "The New Faces of Christianity: Believing the Bible in the Global South." Here are five schools of reaction that have emerged in comments: 1. Those using this controversy to bash religion Atheists love the Internet, as we've chronicled on the Belief Blog. While they may be a small portion of the population, they seem to make up about half our commenters. It was their chance to join with Nye and cheer him on:
2. Those who say wait a minute, being a creationist isn’t necessarily being anti-evolution Lots of folks from the theistic evolution camp came out to say that believing God was involved doesn't automatically make you anti-evolution.
3. Those who say that science is stupid and that young Earth creationism rules Young Earth creationists, who believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old, appeared to be out in force in the comments.
4. Those who say Nye should stick to his area of expertise This tweet was the most polite remark we could find on this subject. Other comments and tweets, not so much.
[tweet https://twitter.com/watsup1101/status/240168918109523968%5D 5. Those who say CNN is cooking up controversy where none exists Lots of people suggested we were generating a story instead of covering one.
For the record, plenty of other news outlets covered this story, pointing out that Nye's video was posted on YouTube just before the Republican National Convention opened. Turns out that Nye taped the segment awhile back and had no say in when it would be released. Thanks for chiming in. The comments are open here, and you can always hit us up on Twitter @CNNBelief. soundoff (2,811 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Next »
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Not all creationist are young earth. Evolution is still a theory with no realiable evidence. Creationism and intellegent design offer althernative ideas. Bill Nye and other evolutionist are stifling debate, censorship and reject critical thinking. Children should be taught to think for themselfs, taught all 3 ideas, and apply critical thinking, without any bias on the teachers part. How can you make an informed decision if you are only given 1 side of the issue?
Uh... "evolution is a theory with no reliable evidence?" OK... ignore the years of study and analysis, the geology of the earth, the museums full of fossils, the zoos full of their living descendants... ignore all that, and then ask: "is there reliable evidence of Creationism?" Only if you "rely" totally on an ancient book, and ignore all the rest.
Story linked on CNN today:
Creationists Boycott Dr. Pepper over "Evolution of Flavor" Facebook Ad
Story is here:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/14/creationists-boycott-dr-pepper-over-evolution-of-flavor-facebook-ad/?hpt=hp_t3
The story quotes an internet poster (we know just how 'serious' they are):
“I ain’t no freaking chimp. No more Dr Pepper for my household. God Bless y’all,”
Funny stuff!
You can find the debate at Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/DrPepper
The Time story without the extra 'click thru's is:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/14/creationists-boycott-dr-pepper-over-evolution-of-flavor-facebook-ad/
Google: Dr Pepper evolution of flavor
This thing is like a rash. Gotta run out and get me some Dr. Pepper now!
Reblogged this on Ramblings of an every day joe and commented:
What is your take? Do you believe in Creationism? Do you beleive in Evolution? Can you mend the two together?
Personally I believe in the 6 day creation, that God created everything in completion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tapt3XHJO8E&feature=related
I don't believe in a god or gods but I can't prove one doesn't exist . You believe in a god and yet you can't prove it does exist.
FAITH- belief that is not based on proof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVXEmJRGns
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SHALOM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A GREAT SHABBOS.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
SHALOM, YOM TOV.
TUVIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947by3X6_RU
LET MY PEOpLE GO
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBZhTaf1oU
OBAMA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBZhTaf1oU
LET JONATHAN POLLARD GO NOW LET MY PEOpLE GO
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Pollard is a treasonous pig who betrayed his country for personal gain.
He should NEVER be released.
Just wanted to tip my hat to "Mr. Tony Montana" for his excellent trolling.
Probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed.
So who breathed life into it?
Why do you assume a "who" did the breathing?
I feel like group two entirely missed the point of the video. When scientists talk about "Creationism," they are referring to the Young Earth theory. There are a lot of evolutionists whom are also atheists, but there are also agnostic and even Christians, who believe in "guided evolution"–and it's within the scope of how evolution could work (a deity could, conceivably, help a creature which would not otherwise have survived to pass its traits on).
So, the folks who are yelling at Bill Nye for preaching against creationism should probably stop being insensitive–Nye never once says 'God doesn't exist,' just that (Young Earth) creationism is a hypothesis which contradicts much of modern science.
There are way too many cases of poor design to seriously consider that the evolutionary process was "guided" by any intelligence but, if it were, that intelligence would have had to have been especially fond of pain and suffering. There is pain and suffering all throughout the natural world. Predator kills prey, often eating them while they are still alive. Predators also fail to kill quite often, resulting in starvation. There is disease, and injury due to poor, or flimsy design. Clearly, if nature was in fact designed by an intelligence it would have had to have been a rather incompetent and sadistic one.
Evolution through unintelligent means like natural selection makes a whole lot more sense, and matches the evidence whereas intelligent design does not, on either count.
We have literal mountains of facts and evidence to support evolution. A grand total of 0% (n=0) of these facts support the inclusion of any god or gods.
Adding a god or gods to the mix only adds an additional layer of complexity that is not needed, warranted, or supported.
It's like stating that gravity causes the center of mass of an object to be attracted to the center of mass of another object with a force that is proportional to the masses of the objects and the distance between them – and oh yeah, we all know it's really god pushing down!
"Those who say CNN is cooking up controversy where none exists:" laughing out loud at that one! This IS a major controversy and always has been. Those that don't realize it aren't looking in the right places...
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Ethel, it is sad that you and those like you would bash others for a belief they hold dear to there hearts. Maybe because your insecurities your are afraid of something. If your God is a "badass jar of salsa," then so be it. Society today is trying so hard to create robots who will follow whatever you say without ever questioning anything. The argument can be made either way. How can all of which is, come to exist. Out of nothing comes nothing. Or how did God come to exist and create all that exist from what. We should be a little more open to both possibilities. The smoking gun has not been found to discredit either believe. So stop with insulting other peoples beliefs, it is as immature as children fighting over candy.
Gotta love you atheists...NO transitional species exist, DNA is mind-boggingly intricate, vestigial organs eliminate evolutionary theory, and still you bring up the Galapagos and other excuses to deny a Creator. Just one thought for you.....The fool says in his heart there is no God....Psalms....Have a nice day
Oh, Vincent – you actually believe that crap? How old are you? How far did you go in grade school? How extensive was your brainwashing as a child? This is like watching a four year old, sticking his fingers in his ears, and screaming that Santa DOES exist.
That is the power of brainwashing a child.
You're right, NO "transitional" species actually exist, at least in the way that creationists describe. Instead of goats giving birth to half-gaots/half-aardvarks, or something similarly ridiculous, in actual evolution theory every individual would have looked like their parents and offspring, perhaps spanning thousands of generations either way. Change can only be appreciated when you compare an individual with their ancestor removed by an especially long period of time, say millions of years. Those would likely not look like they belong to the same species.
It's analogous to having a photo of yourself from age 100 all the way to birth. All the photos of any given year look pretty much the same, but your photos from 50 years apart don't, and someone who doesn't know you probably wouldn't be able to recognize you from your baby photos. You didn't wake up one morning and "change" from a child into an adult. Evolution is gradual. Stop looking for fossils that are "half" one thing and "half" something else. Satyrs, Centaurs, and Mermaids are the things of imagination.
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I believe in God, I believe in creationism and evolution.
Jeff; There is no "God", let alone "god". Creationism is absolute horseshiite. Please use your brain.
Believe in God if you like, but if you believe in evolution then you simply cannot believe in the Genesis account. The two are incompatible.
In Defense of Bill Nye and the Teaching of Evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXyS2xEMHCw&feature=plcp
goto the galapagos for a few weeks. shut your mouth and open your eyes. there is NO GOD. Everything is evolving all the time and will continue to do so until we as a species are gone to be replaved by the next more fit one.
BILL NYE is a GENIUS!!!!
There are many more signs that evolution is true than some GOD wrote the fictional work all you nuts jobs believe in. Your parents lied to you and theirs to them. Get over it and on.
Yo darwin......see above citation from me......Why do you insult believers? Why the ad hominem attacks? Methinks you protest too much against a Creator, better hope you are right....There is a ton of evidence for creation of mankind, allowing also for a much older earth.....You think man is so smart.......He cannot even create a single strand of DNA, and you want me to think a soupy swamp did???? That, my friend, takes real faith......
darwin – since we have been able to devine and connect what we first looked like- soup to apes – and what we are now, can you enlighten me what we will look like in another 50,000 years – what exactly are we evolving into now?
Nye doesn't need to be a genius. Evolution is simple, and elegant. Anyone who cannot see that it's the truth has either not seen the mountain of evidence supporting it, or has chosen to somehow ignore it.
@scott
There's a fair chance we will not have pinky fingers in the future. Evolution is not limited to just humans, anyone who thinks that humans are the end result is a little goofy to me. Its possible that any organ that we don't use could be done away with in the future. The possibilities are endless.
We are directly losing our hair and progressing towards a hairless species due to our ability to produce heat. Stop being so passe and pick up a book bible thumpers. There is fact in this world without the need for "faith". That is the most convenient excuse you fall back on.
goto the galapagos for a few weeks. shut your mouth and open your eyes. there is NO GOD. Everything is evoling all the time and will continue to do so until we as a species are gone to be replaved by the next more fit one.
BILL NYE is a GENIUS!!!!
There are many more signs that evolution is true than some GOD wrote the fictional work all you nuts jobs believe in. Your parents lied to you and theirs to them. Get over it and movee on.
Nye understands evolution to be true. This hardly requires him to be a genius. Evolution is simple to understand, and the evidence for it can be easily grasped by schoolchildren, which is why it is being taught in schools.
a chain reaction that, over billions of years resulted in humans, and flowers, and viruses, and dinosaurs. The belief that the unfathomable intricacies of every living thing on our Earth formed themselves completely at random seems just as fantastical to me as believing in a creator."
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this is one argument that drives me crazy!!! you tell me its crazy that im here(and the flowers, and the dinosaurs etc.) when you can see a pattern of how things evolve and reproduce over time. its right in front of you. YOU SAY ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE HERE BUT THAT "ONE" CREATOR(who just came into existence on his own with no evolution) WITH MAGICAL POWERS AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MILLION TIMES GREATER THAN ME JUST SNAPPED HIS FINGERS AND HERE I AM. how can it be so impossible for me to exist with no creator? who created God? doesnt it make more sense that i could JUST HAPPEN TO BE HERE vs a being that is so much greater than me. well then who created God? he cant just randomly be there?
YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELF AND DESTROY YOUR OWN ARGUMENT!!!!
let me help you with your unbelief my friend.....God has Always existed, not created. Please take your own rational thought and digest this: Darwin himself said 150 years ago that if no transitional species were found, his argument was invalid. NO transitional species have been found to date. And since you are such an open-minded soul, Google the term "vestigial organs:, and see what you find. I could go on and on, but for now that should keep you occupied. For additional amusement, I suggest you read " Darwins's Black Box", by Philip Johnson. I know you will because you are open-minded and would like to know the truth, and not have to bash believers all day,and be angry all the time. Go ahead to Amazon and order the book, and let me know what you think....Have a nice day!
Vincent – cut the crap, please! What is your proof that this God of yours exists. And please – no crap about faith or the bible. I can say MY GOD (who iS a badass jar of salsa) exists. Why should anyone (especially YOU) believe that a god exists?
Concerning the book Darwin's Black Box, four of the book's five "peer" reviewers (Michael Atchison, Robert Shapiro, K. John Morrow, and Russell Doolittle) have made statements that contradict or otherwise do not support Behe's claim of the book passing a rigorous peer review. In short, this work does not pass as credible science.
Just curious, but how do you know that God has always existed, or even that he exists at all? Because it's written in the Bible? Another book?