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 Mitt Romney at his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention.
August 30th, 2012
10:45 PM ET
Mormon speakers at RNC mark sharp departure from Romney's reticence on faithBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor (CNN) - After years of keeping quiet about his Mormon faith, Mitt Romney’s campaign thrust his church life into the national eye Thursday night, as a handful of Mormons took to the Republican National Convention’s stage to deliver moving testimonials about the Republican presidential nominee’s role as a member and leader in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. One couple that belonged to the same Massachusetts ward, or church, as Romney did recounted in a prime-time address how Romney tended to their 14-year-old son when he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma. “You cannot measure a man’s character based on words he utters before adoring crowds during happy times,” Ted Oparowski, the boy’s father, said on the RNC's final night, following speeches by such GOP stars as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. “The true measure of a man is revealed in his actions during times of trouble,” Oparowski said, his voice shaking. “The quiet hospital room of a dying boy, with no cameras and no reporters – that is the time to make an assessment.” CNN Explains: What’s Mormonism? Oparowski explained how, more than 30 years ago, Romney would go on to eulogize his son. Moments later, Pam Finlayson walked onto the convention stage to tell how Romney helped her when he served as bishop – the rough equivalent of a church pastor – of their ward in Belmont, Massachusetts. Finlayson told how she’d given birth to a daughter 3½ months early and that the baby suffered from underdeveloped lungs, an unstable heart and a brain hemorrhage. How Mormonism shaped Mitt Romney “As I sat with her in intensive care, consumed with a mother's worry and fear, dear Mitt came to visit and pray with me,” Finlayson said, provoking tears throughout the convention hall. “I will never forget that when he looked down tenderly at my daughter, his eyes filled with tears, and he reached out gently and stroked her tiny back.” “When it comes to loving our neighbor, we can talk about it or we can live it,” Finlayson said later. “The Romneys live it every single day.” CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories With Romney almost never even invoking the words “Mormon” or “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” the intimate windows into the candidate’s church life came as a surprise to many ears. “I was a little surprised that it really came out so strong,” says Richard Bushman, a Mormon and a scholar of the religion at Columbia University. “The number of Mormon notes struck in this one evening was remarkable.” “It must have been some kind of balance of power in the campaign that shifted.” Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter Romney has opened up more about his Mormonism in recent weeks, but Thursday night’s speeches from Mormon friends marked a dramatic departure from Romney’s vague pronouncements about his faith. In formally accepting the Republican nomination on Thursday night, Romney took the unusual step of invoking the "M" word, as he recounted his early years. "We were Mormons and growing up in Michigan," Romney said. "That might have seemed unusual or out of place but I really don’t remember it that way. My friends cared more about what sports teams we followed than what church we went to." Later in his speech, as he talked about arriving in Massachusetts, Romney referred to his church experience in a way that made it sound universal. "Like a lot of families in a new place with no family, we found kinship with a wide circle of friends through our church," Romney said. "When we were new to the community it was welcoming and as the years went by, it was a joy to help others who had just moved to town or just joined our church." Earlier in the evening, the Oparowskis and Finlayson were introduced by Grant Bennett, a fellow ward member who talked in specific terms about Mormon life. “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has an unpaid, lay clergy,” said Bennett, who succeeded Romney as bishop of the ward. “While raising his family and pursuing his career, Mitt Romney served in our church, devoting 10, 15, even 20 hours a week doing so.” “Like all Mormon leaders, he did so on his own time and at his own expense,” Bennett continued. While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has seized on the national Mormon moment with national ad campaigns to try to explain and normalize Mormonism, the slate of Mormon RNC speakers may have done more to explain the fundamentals of Mormon life to millions of Americans. “Tonight’s stories had an authenticity that’s greater than 20 public affairs releases from the church office,” says Bushman. “It’s just a huge enlargement of the understanding of the faith.”
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Why Morality has nothing to do with faith. And faith can tell us nothing about what we should do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdBJL1c7xUI
I like what you say. You reached me. Thank you.
What the atheists get brainwashed on –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
After reading so many condescending posts on here– Mormon bashing, America bashing, Christian bashing in general, I feel like we're all doomed. Romney is our last hope; if Obama stays, we're all done for. Romney's and Paul's Christian values and business/budget smarts are the only hope we have left.
You can scoff if you want, but if you vote for Obama, we're doomed. And when America sinks so far into debt and we're all reduced to poverty, remember who you voted for.
I totally agree. Hold your nose and vote for Romney. Crap I almost hope the big fabricator of lies Obama wins. Another 4 years of his total screw-ups will let my boy Chris Christie slide on in to a sure victory in 2016. Let the losers stay in for another 4 years the Republicans won't let them accomplish anything and Obama can have another 4 years of being a LOSER and we will win in the end!
Atheists get brainwashed immediately.
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
@Pete,
Run along Chicken Little, the sky is not and will not begin to fall if Obama is reelected... The only way America is doomed is if the Republicans attempt to pull the same stunts this time around and they did the previous 4 years in Congress, which was marked by their complete and utter disregard for civil discourse and inexcusable intransigence when it came to issues of importance (budget), Whatever happened to the GOP of the 50-90's? Working with the dems to get things done? You don't have to like a deal 100%, but hey, that's compromise, give and take...
The Lunacy of Moron belief. We do not require a leader whose ability to use logic and reason to deduce what is real from evidence is blinded by irrational faith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E
It's a religion. Get over it.
By the way, it is said that "the daughters of Zion are exceedingly fair", or in English, "Mormon girls are hot". It's true, at least when they get to milf age. And since they take care of themselves so well, they hold up a lot better than others.
Anyone who watches this horribly deceitful and completely fallacious filth needs to know that that's precisely what it is. Any Christian who tries to tear down another's faith isn't really a true Christian, now is he? Anyone can twist any good thing to look evil and Satanic.. Just ask the Jews in Christ's day. Christ was so "evil and demonic" that he was crucified by those who KNEW he was a fraud, right?!
In other words, if you believe something you see or hear on face value without studying it out and praying about it with sincerity and real intent, you will be deceived just as were the Jews who crucified the very Savior of the world.
I don't like this. It is too nasty. I will grant Romney his religion and totally respect it.
As a fomer Mormon I can tell you that the content of this video pretty much nails it when it comes to what the Mormons believe. As a card carrying temple recommend holder, Mitt Romney has to believe this stuff. There's no way that I want a man like that to be making policy and possessing the nuclear codes.
Pete
No true Scotsman fallacy.
YOU don't dictate the laws of the universe. I'm sorry if this comes as a shock to you.
Christians have been calling other Christians "heretics" since day one. Get over yourself.
Did someone mistake me for a Christian? I am most certainly an Atheist.
Just as it is insanity to believe in the 6ft tall green monster in my closet without evidence of its existence, so is it insanity to believe in God without evidence.
As an Atheist, I have simply chosen Reason, Logic, and Sanity, over delving into insane fantasy and imagination.
All the same, I think it's a safer bet to not go in your closet. I mean, what if there really is a monster in there! In fact, just to be on the safe side, you should probably lock yourself in a room and keep the lights on at all times. Oh, and you should sing row, row, row your boat as well. If the monster doesn't care if you sing or not, then you've lost nothing. But if the monster will only attack people who don't sing row, row, row your boat then you've gained everything!
Too bad you picked up the same mannerisms of Rev Terry Jones, Rev Wright and the 700 Club crowd. Some days the intolerant folks at the extremes all sound the same. Blah Blah.. and you wonder why they mistook you for an extremist on our side. Yall all use mostly the same words.
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What atheists believe –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Ex-Mo, I'm sorry you couldn't live the moral and disciplined life that the church requires one to live. But don't blame the church and make it out to be the cause of your problems.
Scott, that sounds very reasonable. I'm sure now that you've accepted that religion is all phony you have a perfect understanding of the world and every decision you make is completely logical and based on what is best for all humanity.
Or, maybe denying God's existence (which, in all seriousness, is a perfectly valid stance) means your judgement is just as shaky as religious folks' judgement. It's odd to me that atheists seem to think that being atheists imbues them with the wisdom of the ages and crystal moral clarity that the poor deluded churchgoers don't have. No, it doesn't . . you're struggling to make sense of the world, just like everyone else.
They should check their sons butt, Romney's gay.
I just can't wrap my hands around the Mormon thing. I'll hold my nose and vote for Mitt but I'm not a happy camper. I can't envision a President of this United States believing in such weird stuff. Plus wearing strange underwear and believing in all kinds of strange crap with his religion. Mormons are not really Christians. They are some strange off-shoot which came about within the past few hundred years. I almost hope he doesn't win. I can't get over what the Mormons think and worship. It certainly isn't the Christian God I worship. It's scary stuff.
You mean you can't understand someone that believes weird stuff like a virgin birth, parting the Red Sea, and the resurrection of Christ? Oh, yeah, that's what you believe!
Cannibalism is so much less weird than special underwear, right?
The great thing, though, is that with a Romney Ryan ticket you can get the best of both worlds!
You don't really think he actually believes it do you ?
Mormons don't believe their underwear is "magic". Do you also say Jews wear "magic beanies" or Nuns wear "magic robes"? They are simply clothing meant to remind the wearer of sacred promises made to God. Since those covenants are personal, they are worn "under" regular clothing. Can you imagine if Clinton had worn something to remind him of promises he'd made? Maybe he wouldn't have been impeached for lying about what he did with "that woman".
Atheists get brainwashed into believing –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Have you ever talked to a Mormon about his or her beliefs? If you've heard something that seems weird, please consider that there are a lot of lies, distortions and misinformation that are told about LDS beliefs. We don't mind being asked in person to try to clear up any misunderstandings.
This makes Romney sound like a community organizer...but one that really made a difference in the life of real, average, people. I would like to believe people can care about their neighbors. Americans used to. Maybe we can again?
Ray, if you say hello to your neighbor tomorrow, then I bet he'll be much more apt to say hello to his neighbor... it's pretty simple but you have to be the one to start.. Stop waiting for your neighbor to say hi to you.. you get what I'm saying? DO something about making your community a better place, don't just sit around and wish for it. That's Romney's dream. Get off your butt and go do something good.
You tell em Petey. You are the man. You are the boss. Go Pete.
Of course, if you can't get off your butt because you're too old, or maybe you have to work multiple minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet, you're gonna get punished and you can expect to pay higher taxes and fees while the mega rich like Romney get to put even more of their money into off shore accounts.
Atheists don't care about their neighbors. They were brainwashed early in life.
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Father Benedict, I feel sorry for you.
Facepalm, you just keep making excuses for everyone and every situation. That's why we're in the mess we're in. Everyone makes an excuse and expects the government to take care of everything.
I found these testimonials to be very insightful and refreshing. There are still good people who do good things for others expecting nothing in return.
j willlard marriott best friend with ole george robmoney....both mormons with allott of $$$$$...so close, george named his son willard mitt robmoney. that's it, i will no longer stay at a marriott.
Because they are rich? Because they are conservative? Because they are Mormon? All bad reasons not to patronize a business.
The truth is their both fudge packers.....
I'm pretty sure it's not a uniquely Mormon trait that its rich members tend to hang out together. Romney and Marriott are friends, therefore . . what, exactly? I really don't see a point. But kudos for the clever "Robmoney" line . . ho ho . .
If you are seriously planning on avoiding Marriotts because of the religion/politics of their CEO, then I suggest you follow that course through to its logical end and research the beliefs of the top executives of every company you do patronize. Make sure you know what Larry Page believes before you use Google. Check out Bob McDonalds' religious stance before you buy another tube of Crest. Take a hard look at Robert Iger before you buy a ticket for the next Pixar movie. Oh; you don't want to go to that hassle? Hmmm . . it must not matter that much, huh?
I can't believe CNN is making such a big deal about Romney's faith.
Wasn't that off-limits for Obama?
It's the Religious Right that is most bothered by Romney's faith. Haven't you been paying attention?
Then there's the atheists belief.
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
off limits for PRESIDENT Obama??? are you kidding? From calling him a Muslim to Reverend Wright bs to Birther lies-you are delusional-I am married to a mormon-I did not know anything about mormons before I married him-I was most certainly not welcomed by the LDS-community-I had no problem with them or anyone believing whatever they want-I believe if one rule – "treat other people how you wish to be treated!"I have not found that in the LDS community-and have found that to question any of their theories is not allowed-Without questions there are no answers-I wish this was a country that honored seperation of church and state-Unfortunately-religious zealots can't seem to shut up about their religious beliefs and want to rule the country by them!
Zippy, for some reason people still find Mormons to be mysterious and exotic. They wouldn't keep posting these stories if they didn't generate a lot of hits and a lot of posts. I don't know if this helps or hurts Romney, honestly. Everyday Mormon life is pretty much like a lot of people's, except with no coffee or beer. Really; not that odd unless you want to veer into the more obscure doctrines, and then what religion isn't odd?
I heard talk of what Romney has done for his community and how charitable he has been to those in his community. Thats easy when you help those you know or those that are part of your cult. The test is when you can reach outside of your own to help others. But in my view thats the difference between a christian and non-christian!!
Those were only two examples......how do you know that he hasn't help othersf of different faiths?
http://www.pewforum.org/Christian/Mormon/Mormons-and-Civic-Life.aspx
Mormons contribute far more in both time and money than any other group. This goes to help people of all faiths and no faith at all 😉 Time to put down the pitchfork
I am amazed at the arrogance of the people on this site. What a weird bunch. I bet this gruop would be a great study for a psychology class. If you were to get out of this culture you would see that people aren't that bad, even if they aren't as smart as you all seem to think you are.
If every group took care of its own as well as Mormons do, there wouldn't be all that much need for them to help others. Which by the way they do a lot, especially responses to natural disasters. A lot of Katrina victims were helped by the church; they relocated a lot of them to Salt Lake City and helped them get what they needed, and get jobs if they had to stay here a while.
A great study would be to view what the atheists believe.
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
I think it's sad that you can't grasp that he might possibly have a heart or is genuine. My husband was a volunteer at the 2002 Olympic Winter Games in Salt Lake City. My husband had an experience one day in passing Mitt. As they passed, my husband turned around and said "Mitt" thinking he would be ignored, knowing how busy Mitt was. That is not what Mitt did. He turned around and walked up to my husband (did not wait for my hubby to walk to him) and they had a nice exchange in which Mitt was very gracious in thanking my Husband for helping. Mitt did not know what religion my hubby was or for that fact ANYTHING about him, but he took the time to look into my hubby's eyes, chat and shake his hand. I have tremendous amount of respect for someone that would do that when they are in their busiest moment.
The Mormon Church of today is a a totally whitewashed, neutered version of the original LDS church. These modifications by and large were intended to rid the religion of some of its more controversial beliefs, which formerly served to alienate the church from mainstream America. This is why they gave up polygamy (to allow Utah to become a state) changed the ban on blacks holding the priesthood (when it became an issue during George Romney's campaign), and now downplay the most unusual aspects of their religion (e.g. the Book of Abraham, Mormons ascending to godhood, etc.) The most ironic part is that the FLDS (Warren Jeff's community) is more like the original church than the mainstream LDS is today.
you bring up some good points, but if you would actually study the history of the lds church, you would find the stark differences between the flds and the early church
Rafael, you could never be more wrong. Please do some research before posting falsehoods.
What Rafael believes –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Hey, now, Rafael! That's slanderous and . . completely inconsequential. So the church and its members (and all of America) has changed over 150 years. And???
I'm a little more concerned with how Mitt would do the job as President than I am about what Joseph Smith did or didn't do or about any particular event in Mormon history. I'm guessing you think these things are all inextricably connected. You're wrong, but feel free to blather on.
I am watching the RNC 2012. I am a registered Republican and of Mormon roots. I ask: Why is it that Mitt Romney's best friend refers to him as having been a "pastor" when no respectable LDS member refers to him as anything other than what he was...a Bishop within the church. Are we attempting not to offend anyone, Mitt? The word Mormon was never mentioned. Are you not proud of the church, and proud to be a member of it? I respect all persons of all beliefs. But, how honest can the campaign be when a man makes attempts to hide who he really is.
Your oints are accurate, and I think the answer may lie in the completely absurd nonsense you Mormons believe. I mean, can you blame him from wanting to steer clear of the whole Joseph Smith-gold tabltes, seer stones cr.ap?
I agree. Romney lacks the moral courage to even admit his beliefs, much less stand up like a man and champion them with pride.
The fact that Romney is a Mormon is not as disturbing as the fact he is a sniveling coward of a Mormon.
The name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Lay people called it the Mormon Church because of the Book of Mormon. Most church members refer to themselves as LDS. In my opinion, it is a personal preference.
Really, Bob? The word pastor is more understood and it gets closer to what a bishop in the LDS church does. You should probably not strive to look for offense where there is none. 🙂
Lacks moral courage? Won't admit who he is? Doesn't champion his beliefs? I think not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJ_i-4dH-0&feature=related
Who the he'll is he, we were looking to you for some insight.. Everything out of his mouth is a lie, is that one of the tenets of the church or the Republican party?
He just used language more familiar to a broad range of people and less likely to paint an inaccurate picture of what a Mormon bishop is. The word "bishop" to most people means a Catholic Bishop who has far more authority and oversees a much broader population than does a Mormon Bishop. Most people associate a "pastor" with being the hands on steward over a local congregation, which is what a Mormon Bishop does. I think it was done to be more accurate, not less.
What Bob believes –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
What other candidate has ever made such a big to-do about his religion at a convention? This is just weird. It felt cultish.
Why is GOD in America like the Olympics : Every 4 years for 2 weeks the gods are invoked for their qualities that human aspired to achieve
It is weird. As a former member of a mormon church i can safely say I dont want them having anything to do with our national political agenda
So you must have missed all the clamoring for Romney to spend more time on his faith. Guy can't win for trying, you would condemn him either way.
Larry, the only "former" Mormons I know are the ones who could not live a moral and upright life. Don't condemn the church for having standards you could not live by.
I think the last time would have been with JFK but I wasn't alive then so it's just a guess.
Pete, your social circle could use some expanding. There are plenty of former Mormons who left simply because they couldn't buy into the specific, literal aspects of it any more. I respect someone who has the stones to walk out, even while their friends and family are judging them without basis. Hey, that's just like you, Pete!
My roomie at BYU left the church with his wife and kids, and while I don't pretend to be a mind reader or to know everything about them, all indications are that they are happier now. It ain't for everyone, and not just because of "lifestyle" issues.
Isn't it GREAT that only in America can a Bishop of Salt Lake City and a Bishop of the Pope in Rome may replace and Islamist in the White House and the aging Deacon Billy Graham !!! 🙂 Finally the wall between churd and state can be eraseD !!!
It is equally great that retards are allowed to say whatever they want without any credibiltiy. Like you and Romney!
I am glad that aliens doesn't have a sense of sarcasm 🙂
A sense of sarcasm? English good not you? Word fling strange strange sense not?
Anglish berry berry good me
Atheists get brainwashed early in life -
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Friends, Mitt Romney is as we all are, frail, weak and humbled in the light of the Almighty. Each human being person's path to enlightment is unique. Do not compare your journey with that of your brother or sister. Ease your hand down on your throttle or playground and caress the goodness of the life giving life giver.
Oh God! OH GOD!!! I FEEL THE POWER!!!
Throb, I am happy to know you understand and embrace the pleasure of true belief. The Lord-uh, wants you to stroke the passion you have inside you and will give you gift of ultimate release.
I'll need 20 minutes or so before I can get a handle on the situation again.
LOL
Throb's belief –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
I wonder if there will be a coup attempt after Obama wins again. There are parts of the right that are so extremist that it would not truly surprise me. The military informally trains their troops to hate him. Many elected right-kooks have talked insurrection and succession.
Will there be treason? You know the Limbaugh radioheads will be furious when Obama wins again, especially if they don't take the Senate either.
I didn't think Obama would survive one term. I doubt that he will survive a second with kooks like Ted Nugent there.
It ain't gonna happen. Obama's one and done.
Remember, the Republicans were freaked about JFK's Catholic issue... Now the TEA/GOP’ers are very concerned about the Islamic Brothers and Sharia law rule... BUT, they seem little problem with the Book of Mormon... Hummmmmm… are they leading us to the “land of (bilk) milk and honey” now, and prosperity? Can anybody spell HYPOCRITE?
Better than what the atheists were brainwashed into believing.
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
John 4:1
faith means turning your brain off. get up off your knees, go outside, and put your hands to work.
Bootyfunk– actually faith is believing in things which are not seen, which are true.
This guy Bootyfunk believes in –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
Okay, I'll say it. There is a large portion of the American electorate that are complete MORONS. There should never be a photo ID requirement or any poll tax but there should at least be a minimum level of knowledge to be allowed to vote, maybe just the bare minimum, like name the three branches of government level. Otherwise it's like performing a test to see which Americans like more, Pepsi or Coke, but the samplers only get to look at the glasses of soda sitting on the table and none get to actually taste it. Why should anyone have any confidence in voters who don't even know the first thing about their own government. The proof will be if Mitt Romney actually get's elected, we will know that the morons have struck again.
"TRUTH"... you rock, you're spot on and complete correct. Sorry, the stupid can reproduce and carry on their genes.
Surprised your comment ended up being anti-romney after the good point that you made. You seriously think that if there was a test to vote in place that Obama ever would have got elected?? His election was based on empty promises, charisma, and excitement of change. All fluff. I'm not saying Romney is the perfect choice, but how can someone look back over the past four years and think "hmm, we're way worse off then we were four years ago, let's do this again.
41% of Americans believe in ESP. They also vote.
37% believe in haunted hoouses. They vote too.
21% believe that people can communicate with the dead. Yup, they are voters too.
36% of Americans believe in UFOs. Voters.
60% on Americans believed that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, and the same 60% believed that Iraqis were amongst the hijackers, even though there had been widely-reported stories from the CIA and other souorces stating that was totally untrue.
So basically, at least 60% of the population is just plain ignorant, and the majority of those are such astounding nincompoops that they believe in obvious gibberish like ghosts and religion.
But they vote. And they are so easily duped that they will vote for a pimp for the ultrarich like Romney when they, not being ultrarich, are not going to benefit at all for doing so. They vast majority of the right are going to vote for a guy who is not going to help them at all.
@sad,
Thanks for totally ruining my evening with those hopelessly depressing stats. We're doomed.
And the most depressing stat, 70+% believe the jesus myth is real!
47% believe the the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Sad but true,
Please educate me on what Obama has done in the last four years to "help" you....seems to me things have gotten worse. So what if it wasn't his fault, he was the one that signed up for the job to correct it. Not only are things not better, they are WORSE bc of him.
Tell us, O Truth. What are the three branches of government "level". And why did you put an apostrophe in "get's" elected? Do you feel you're qualified to vote?
Atheists are 100% brainwashed –
http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ARTB/k/1186/Gnosticism-False-Knowledge.htm
@Dippy
Executive – Presidents administration
Legislative – Congress & Senate
Judicial – Supreme Court
I'll admit, i used "get's" incorrectly as it should have been "gets" but I was not saying everyone needs absolute proper grammar or syntax to vote, just a basic knowledge of what they are voting for.
@christopher – "You seriously think that if there was a test to vote in place that Obama ever would have got elected?"
Yes, I do. In fact I believe if correct answers to my questions were required I think Obama would win by 30 or more points. I believe the base of the republican party is chock full of people who aren't stupid but they don't care to learn any more than their pastor spits at them on Sunday. Yes, they are all Patriots, but as Mark Twain once wrote "A Patriot is the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about."