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I do not "believe" in evolution, I accept it as fact. I am proud to be a member of the animal kingdom and nature. I feel sorry for people who exclude themselves. They are not living.
In the beginning there were politics and religion, nowadays add science to help keeping us divided
You should do stand up. lol
Evolution is the biggest "scientific" lie of all time. Dinosaur bones given to universities to be dated without telling the university what they were have responded with dates from 10,000 to 40,000 years old – not "Millions". Recently deceased animals tested have returned dates of thousands of years old. Modern items have been found encased in rock that was dated "Millions of years old". The "science" on which evolution is based is seriously flawed.
Total rubbish. Where exactly was this 'study' conducted? In your basement I think.
Unless you can post a link to back up your "opinions" you will never evolve away from being a hoaxer.
Are we serious? Are we still at this point in history where people are being ridiculously unaccepting of scientific fact to the point where they are even referencing studies that they cannot come up with a source for simply because they do not exist? Science has 0 reason to lie to you.
Nothing that you say is true.
Really are you beibg ironic or are you serious? . I did not think there were people out there like you who know how to operate a computer? I thought those lower denominator types live in the mountains without electricity. Clearly my thoughts need to evolve.
and I guess you believe the earth is flat and that the sun revolves around the earth also...
You know this because...? Oh, God told you so.
Why do some people continue to insist that the creation story in the Bible is more scientifically plausible than all the evidence pointing to evolution? The Pope has acknowledged years ago that evolution is a fact. Any religion continuing to deny evolution looks increasingly like a bunch of cranks and fools, hiding from the modern world.
Look. Your religious faith should not be threatened by the fact that the story of Adam and Eve is not literally true. Noah didn't put all the animals in the world on a wooden boat either. He had never even heard of the Americas or Australia at the time but I guess he picked up some kangaroos and wombats before the flood? Maybe he cruised up the the Arctic and picked up some polar bears while he was at it? Come on.
Anybody who takes the Bible literally will always feel insecure because many of these stories are simply not plausible. The good stuff in the Bible is the wisdom and spirituality. The stories were just a way to communicate with ordinary farmers, warriors, herders and nomads of the time. Everybody communicated in stories in those days. It was like television - it was how ordinary people consumed information.
My best advice to the religious: Do not hang your faith on whether the Bible is literally true. Otherwise you are in for a world of hurt.
Your life is an entire lie. When will you accept it?
You are seriously delusional, I mean really!
I have heard the thing about dog bones for years. Did it ever really happen?
The death bed can make you reconsider....
What you believe on your death bed doesn't change any of the facts. Evolution is scientifically accurate, whether you understand it or not.
Your spirit is just a chemical, Jeremy.
Death beds are not recommended. Go out with a big bang.
"Evolution" is accurate? hahahaha Look at this:
The research adds to a growing body of evidence that runs counter to the popular perception that there was a linear evolution from early primates to modern humans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19184370
On one's death bed it is simply "lights out." No heaven, no hell, just extinguishment. So far, I'm OK with that situation. It makes living a full and generous life, engaged with friends, family and community that much more meaningful. I don't need the old judgmental man in the sky to tell me I've done good or bad, I know who and what I am and take responsibility for my choices, good and bad.
LOLevolutionLOL: You dope! The article where you got the quote:
'The research adds to a growing body of evidence that runs counter to the popular perception that there was a linear evolution from early primates to modern humans.'
is immediately followed by:
'Anthropologists have discovered three human fossils that are between 1.78 and 1.95 million years old.'
SO, since your mind is obvously too narrow to understand the POINT of the article in mentioning the paragraph you quote, I will try to explain it. Recent DNA testing on human fossils has revealed that there was interbreeding between early hominid species like Neanderthal, Denisovan (the most recently discovered and PROVEN) and early modern humans and therefore it seems that modern human EVOLUTION, although it DID HAPPEN, did not happen simply LINEARLY from species A evolving directly into species B then C then eventually directly into modern humans, but rather that modern humans incorporated some of the DNA from the other now extinct species along the evolutionary path to becoming the specie that now counts me and, I sadly admit, you, among its members.
THEREFORE you are quoting an article that you claim disclaims evolution yet it clearly provides PROOF of it!!
This is another example of simple-minded people distorting the truth in ANY way they can in a desperate attempt to prove their own fallacious theories.
You just provided your own counter-argument dodo!! (Dodos which, incidentally, are now extinct in case you did not know that either, I'm sure would have been completely offended by my reference to them in comparing your intelligence).
borninpangeia I can kinda follow this revised theory better than the old, the bible tells a story that I don't fully comprehend. But it mentions humanoid type species inner breeding. I think it was in Genesis something like the sons of man laying with Angels. Not sure but it seems I remember that. Maybe this comment is a stretch. I would have to think it out. Go back look at translations etc. etc. But the story(as I remember it) does seem to indicate some form of inter species breeding. I never gave much thought to the science of evolution till recently, I have just intuitively thought it a good possibility. But after reading a few "short" stories on the net published by the scientific community, a lot of this seems sensible. I don't understand why folks think it discredits a believe in God .
For a better understanding of the times before the Bible and the development of the earth and human life, we invite you to read the article ‘Creation’ listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca
All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how and by whom this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9.
and I invite you to Join The true church, and worship the only real god Google.
http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/
The Bible, Koran and all "Holy" texts are utter BS with some good philosophy and poetry thrown in for fun
Only for the new members of this blog: ( TOPIC INFORMATION THAT EVERYONE SHOUJLD BE AWARE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR OWN EVOLUTION)
Are you part Neanderthal? Read below. (this is no joke)
Besides the dinosaurs and other fossils in our evolutionary process:
You might be part Neaderthal and for $99 actually find out:
As per National Geographic's Genographic project:
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/
" DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who about 60,000 years ago began a remarkable journey. Follow the journey from them to you as written in your genes”.
"Adam" is the common male ancestor of every living man. He lived in Africa some 60,000 years ago, which means that all humans lived in Africa at least at that time.
Unlike his Biblical namesake, this Adam was not the only man alive in his era. Rather, he is unique because his descendents are the only ones to survive.
It is important to note that Adam does not literally represent the first human. He is the coalescence point of all the genetic diversity."
For your $99 and a DNA swab:
"Included in the markers we will test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our hominin cousins, Neanderthals and the newly discovered Denisovans, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago. As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals and Denisovans were still alive and well in Eurasia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA in your genome."
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Ooops, make that "SHOULD BE AWARE OF".
Creationism is an abiogenesis concept, it has nothing to do with evolution.
I personally feel it is just as incorrect as the big bang theory.
What you are discussing is religious theory, a philosophy, not science! Many scientists are also religious and do not discount the existence of a 'Master Designer' but science has proven undeniably that the Earth didn't just sprout up 10,000 years ago. Creationism is factually wrong and distorts the line between Biblical parables and fact, which is dangerously misleading to children. Creationism should not be taught in science classes, but in religious studies or philosophy.
> Many scientists are also religious and do not discount the existence of a 'Master Designer'
If you could name a few for us, that would be great...
Albert Einstein
Wrong!
stephen hawkings
Werner Von Braun
Carl Jung, who unlike his Atheist contemporary Freud did not commit suicide at the end
Georges Lemaître ( I should get double the points for this one; Catholic priest and originator of the Big Bang theory.
Hey, most of the time, I take my Lipitor and watch what I eat, but then occasionally, I get weak, God gets in my soul and next thing you know, I'm making love to an ice cream Sundae.
Amen! LOL!
Prayer changes things .
What other living thing, other than humans, lives as theist?
Really? I suppose it can in the mind of the person praying but for anything else...prayer is worthless.
All creation honors God as the creator, only man is given the option to deny God and only the very foolish choose that option. God bless
DISGRUNTLED EX EVANGELICAL FORTUNE COOKIE WRITER ALERT! (just sayin)
I'm sorry "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions about prayer and atheism are unfounded. I notice that you continue to repeat these unfounded statements. Would you like me to recommend a book on Alzheimer's? It may help with this problem.
Hhmmm... I am starting to see why they don't call him Bill Nye the "religion" guy. Come on people.
There's no conflict between religion, specifically Christianity, and evolution IF one doesn't believe every word in the bible is literally true. It's clear that at least some of the bible is meant as metaphor and parable, since Jesus himself is quoted as using parables to teach. If Jesus uses parables, then why not consider that at least some other parts of the bible are meant as parables as well.
Isn't that called pick and choose religion?
Does everyone get to pick the bits they like, or just you?
Bernie, everyone DOES choose what parts of the bible they believe in, at least when it comes to people using the bible to defend their beliefs.
I've sat down with many biblical scholars, deeply religious people, who have told me exactly what Andy says. The bible is intended to convey ideas, not be taken literally. It's impossible to take everything in the bible literally for the simple fact there are too many contradictions. Reading the bible and taking your beliefs from it therefore require personal interpretation, either your own or those of the person from whom you are learning about the bible.
That the bible requires interpretation means we will never all be able to agree what exactly the bible says. Whatever interpretation we choose to believe may mean everything to us but can mean nothing to the next person. If your faith is firm it shouldn't matter what the next person thinks.
As for evolution, it's happening all around us. And if you weigh the evidence of evolution against creationism, creationism only has the bible to support it, if you take the story literally. Proof of evolution actually has some meat to it. If, on the other hand, you believe some higher power created what we now know as the universe, and everything in it, you may be on to something. Science has yet to answer the question, "Where did the matter come from?" And I'm talking about even the matter that was here before the Big Bang.
But in the end we have to remember much of science is built on theory, just like religion. And when either side hangs their hat solely on theory...
For those Christians who recognize that Jesus frequently used parables and metaphor, and therefore consider that at least some other parts of the bible are meant as parables or metaphorically as well, it's not necessarily a matter of picking and choosing. Many Christians believe that God provides personal inspiration and guidance, therefore they can pray for divine guidance as to distinguish those parts of the bible that are metaphoric from those parts that are literally true.
Too many people are confusing Creationism with religion itself. Creationism is the notion that we were created by a supreme being 10,000 years ago and coexisted with dinosaurs for some time, a notion which can be dismissed by modern science with a laugh. It isn't necessary to subscribe to every detail of creationism in order to believe in a deity. There isn't proof for any scientific position on the existence of a god, therefore the claim that faith disqualifies a person from science and reason is as ludicrous as saying the same about an atheist. Unfortunately, most of the people who will comment and claim that children should hear "both sides" are both scientifically illiterate and ignorant on the particulars of creationism, which gives rise to the unfortunate stereotype that all believers of abrahamic religions subscribe to creationism.
Creationism literally stemmed from religion. Its a sad attempt through science to justify ones religion except creationism lacks 1 key ingredient. Evidence. The only evidence supporting creationism is religious text. Thats all fine and dandy except with science you need to try and experiment and recreate those events to help prove the theory of creationism. Unfortunately for creationists the concept is still a hypothesis since we haven't figured out a way to test the concept yet or find any solid evidence proving that it happened.
That is not to say Earth and everything on it wasn't created through intelligent design. But under the concept of science there is no evidence to support it at this time while there is lots for evolution. At one point as we dwell in the past we might find a point in our evolution where something put us on the path of where we are today or created us out of nowhere but until then creationism is simply a dream wished up by those who refuse to be more open minded about the universe we live in.
Andrew, how in the world are we going to "test" creationism, as you say. Only God can do what He can do. That´s why there is faith. Faith in his doing is the only path to creationism – since it cannot be proven by scientific means. But faith is supported by LOGIC. I find more logical and accurate the theory of creationism than that of evolution. Neither has been proven yet...Just now, a new human especies was found in Kenya dating millions years back.... so ALL the science that backed a linear evolution has been thrown out the window.... Science lives of theory – believes and tries to test them... Faith is the same, but cannot reproduce the work that only is reserved to a Superior Being.
For the purpose of making a point:
There is a transparent three dimensional seamless container in which nothing exists, because there is nothing existing to exist. This container is a large as the observable and unobservable universe. It is large enough to contain our universe, no matter how large it continues to expand. It is a very, very large container.
There is a problem though. This very large container contains nothing ...not matter that can be converted into energy, and no energy that can be formed into matter. In this container there is really not even space, whatever space truly is.
And again, just to make a point: Outside of this very large transparent, seamless container is a chair. In this chair sits you. And there you sit for eternity, after eternity, after eternity.
Remember now, you really don’t exist. Nothing exists. You are sitting there waiting for something to happen within this contained area.
And there is the problem ...something cannot and has never been shown to come from nothing. Because for something to exist, energy must exist. And for energy to exist, it must have a source.
Many conjecture, hypothesize, or wish for the out-of nothing-existence of a ‘singularity’, which exploded and formed into complexity of order that comprises all physical existence.
As difficult and humbling as it may be to accept, the only explanation for all the energy and matter that has been formed into the overwhelming order and design in the natural world, is a Master Designer with unlimited power, intellect, wisdom.
If not, then our container would still be empty.
Unless nothing never existed in the first place. Your very very simple thought experiment just got blown the hell up, and you may not even realize it...maybe never...
So where did the "Master Designer with unlimited power, intellect, wisdom" come from? An even more masterful designer with even more unlimited power, intellect and wisdom?
Wow, someone insisting that there must exist a creator without explaining where this creator comes from. How refreshing. Sarcasm aside, If you think your little thought experiment holds water, why don't you get published in a reputable scientific journal? I'm not being accusatory, I'm seriously suggesting that you do this.
A master designer with unlimited power, intellect and wisdom? Been here for eternity? Sounds even more improbable than a universe coming from nothing.
"the only explanation for all the energy and matter that has been formed into the overwhelming order and design in the natural world, is a Master Designer with unlimited power, intellect, wisdom." Non sequitur, apophenia and an argument from ignorance do not make your subjective and hopeful "only explanation" the actual only explanation.
Your comment is great up to the point you become deranged and tell of an almighty being outside the container master of all. Great allegoric for why there is no almighty deity!
With all due respect that's just your assumption, there is no evidence to suggest there is a 'Master Designer'. Science deals in facts, what you are discussing is philosophy and religious theory. Creationism should therefore not be taught as scientific fact, as it is in many schools, because it just isn't! T
The intelligent design concept is older than the discovery of fire. Literally.
How do you think our simple minded ancestors try to understand things happening around them both terrible and good and fascinating? They came to the conclusion that things happen for a reason and these things are guided by supernatural beings of great power. After all since our hands can make and control things it makes sense that the reason why it rains is because someone of great power wills it.
For thousands of years we believed in many gods governing many different things. It wasn't until towards the end of the Roman Empire did we come up with the idea that a single god governs everything and all others are simply false gods.
All these gods or single god are simple explanations for the unknowns of the world we live in. It only makes sense that we come to such conclusions since we like to find reason. However quick judgments are a lot of the time the mistake that we make. People started really looking into things and found how our universe is much more different than we originally thought. That is why its important to keep an open mind. That is to also conclude that there might actually be a god or gods that govern the universe. However, these beings may not exist either or even be remotely like how we originally believed them to be.
Interesting theory. So you know its a container because you have been to the end of it?
In reply to Athy:
"So where did the "Master Designer with unlimited power, intellect, wisdom" come from?
An even more masterful designer with even more unlimited power, intellect and wisdom?"
It's turtles all the way down....
Many people ask that questions if different ways. I usually reply, "there some things we can't know and will remain a mystery for this lifetime" heard two other thoughts on it as follows. " God is a spirit maybe he is the spirit of the universe" that didn't ring my bell the other " God always was and always will be > dude shrugs his shoulders says hey man something always had to always be here ) uh well maybe that was simplistic but you know at least it made me think. Once I started thinking it got complicated. And the idea of the "god particle "doesn't quite satisfy me. That is not a researched statement, but the particle is like clay meaning something to be molded a substance to create things with not a creator. Back to the fact that I believe what I think I know which is that there is a creator. Guess we are all gonna see things through our own "rose colored glasses".
The previous was a reply to athy
It saddens me that people either choose to, or simply cannot wrap their minds around the concept of evolution. True, objective science like the observations outlined by Charles Darwin describe aspects of Nature that simply MUST BE. Scientists do not want to confuse, insult, or seem condescending to the people with fundamental religious beliefs. That is not their desire. Scientists, along with many non-scientists (including myself), find wonder and excitement in the intricate patterns and workings of the universe, and long to understand them. Eventually, you have someone like Charles Darwin, who figures something rather abstract and complex, which challenges tradition. He then writes a book to inform others of his groundbreaking observations of the most significant kind, knowing that many will persecute him and reject his findings for hundreds of years based on their older religious beliefs. But it's worth it for those who understand and marvel at the Universe (or some aspect of it) for what it is, and not what they wish it to be.
That is entirely faith based religions fault. They are keeping them ignorant and spreading misinformation based in no evidence.
Thanks for enlightening those of us with "older befiefs" without being condescending. I think I may have just needed someone who understands the universe to explain it to me as eloquently as you have. Its all clear to me me now though. Had I known you "great knowers of the universe" were holding all the absolute answers I would have given up on the faith that lead me to peace, happiness and compassion long ago. Thanks for clearing it all up! Peace
I believe Larry here is alluding to the well know human phenomenon of bliss, perpetuated by willful ignorance... Well done Larry. Well done.
Larry uh sarcasm , I agree but be nice lol
I respect Billy Nye and all he's taught me. I've learned alot about science from him and he was a great asset to children's education in science. But in my o;inion he seemed like a bit of a jerk in this. Everyone I know doesn't believe in God because of facts. They believe in him because they have faith he is real. A child has faith that his mother loves him. He does't need facts to prove it.
How is he being a jerk by trying to inform others of the truth? People are doing children a huge disservice by lying to them about their existence. There is no sufficient way to experiment and hypothesize to gain concrete information on God, so for now nobody can tell anyone else they're flat out wrong.
However, what you need to realize is that Evolution is observable, tested, proven, and is the only sufficient explanation that fully illustrates a natural occurrence. It showed us successfully that complex life on Earth (humans included) arose from less complex single celled organisms. So now we know that man was not created by a God, nor was any other animal. That's ok, part of learning over time is throwing out inaccurate explanations and replacing them with new ones.
I mean in no way to attack you, I want to inform. Just think about all of the different species that could have ever roamed our planet, and all of their traits and characteristics. How does that not intrigue everyone? It's so interesting, and true!
Bill Nye is an educator. The job of an educator is to educate people and children about things. Evolution is a thing that is undoubtedly true, so it is Bill Nye's job to inform people of something that's true. If he went around telling people "Hey intelligent people spent a lot of money and time, figured out some amazing facts about life. But I'm not going to say it because I don't want to insult anyone who grew up thinking the wrong thing"
It truly is the same situation as people who still believe the Earth is flat, only a flat plot of land and a round ball are easily to visualize. Evolution takes some time to fully understand, but when you do, it's worth it. Hope that helps.
I hold Ph.D in physics. I believe in God because I (or we) know so little of science.
Also, when I think of DNS, which consists of series of 4 digit numbers(A,G,T,C), it is a programming language like a computer program. A computer program language or any human language can not be just occurred naturally unless it is made or designed, in my opinion. Also, if we restrict ourselves with science, we are doomed with the speed of light, which is the fastest speed obtainable. Yet the speed of light would be so slow even to reach one spot of universe to the other. I want to believe there is a way to travel across the universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tQIB4UdiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41WZBcmnfc
This I found ever so witty and completely on the mark. Bravo Bill! Well done!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfm-q7oBr3Q
Thank you.
The more I watch this I have finally realized that Bill Nye is just desperate for some publicity and this is just a sad attempt to get some camera time. Pathetic. He has ruined his ENTIRE career that has led up to this point. I mean, come up. THIS MAN IS AND WAS NEVER A SCIENTIST. His specialty is balloons and small kids experiments. Really??? Why are we even listening to him?
You don't have to be a scientist to understand that Evolution is correct. You just have to be sane and apply reason and logic to determine what is real in the natural world. It is amazing what we can learn through logic reason and predictive power.
You're not listening to Bill because you know if you admit it, you wont be able to extort money from your followers...and because you're a mindless moron. What, you really think the vastness of the cosmos was made so we earthlings would have something to look at in the sky. Its bigger than us...IDIOTS, don't be so pretentious. Listen to Bill, it's about time the whole concept of religion was shut the $%^& down. It has done nothing but slow the progress of humanity, is the cause of divisions among humanity, and is directly responsible for the thousand years loss of technology during the dark ages...Its why they call it the "dark" ages because humanity was kept in the dark for the sake milking money from the unaware. Care to "pay" for your sins? Yes, embrace the light, and if you can't, at least don't force your backward mindedness on your children. Release your children and let them taste the fruit of knowledge and make their own choices.
It's about time someone spoke out against organized religion. My church is in my heart. Religion is something "invented" by humanity to explain what hasn't been proven yet scientifically and to bilk the general public out of money. Pure and simple. Organized religion is evil at its purest form. Eat the fruit and you to might finally realize it and come out of your repressed state of denial. The Earth is NOT the center of everything. Idiot!
Bill Nye "The Science Guy" -
-Studied mechanical engineering at Cornell University (where one of his professors was Carl Sagan)
-Graduated with a Bachelor of Science in 1977
-Was awarded an honorary doctorate by The Johns Hopkins University
-Received an Honorary Doctor of Science degree from Willamette University
-Began his career in Seattle at Boeing
-Served as Vice President of The Planetary Society
-Served as Executive Director of The Planetary Society
-Holds several United States patents
-Developed a hydraulic pressure resonance suppressor still used in the 747
-Worked as a consultant in the aeronautics industry
-Assisted in the development of a small sundial that was included in the Mars Exploration Rover missions
Yea. Just balloons and experiments for children, right?.
@vocasio Good one dude! You crushed him.
Jimi Jesus also hated organized religion in fact it was religious bigots that convinced the Romans to crucify him so at least you get part of it right even if you are rude.
More than anything else, it is most disappointing that Bill Nye has let down his most important audience, the children. That is the saddest thing of all.
Really? How do you know? Did you ask all of the children before you made your retarded remark?
In what way, Robert? Telling the truth can never be let anyone down. You let yourself down if you believe in that horseshit creation fable.
I'm glad bill is agaisnt indoctrinating children with realigious crap.. Give them the truth bill not fairy tales..
I wouldn't say he let down the children, however dispaying evolution as truth is a little extream, it is still a theory. The experiments that are used to determin evolution is real, are all based on theory, science has built "fact" after "fact" on theory. Not to metion we still have the "missing link" issue where at one point (based on evolution) the human brain advanced very quickly with very little time for evolution to take place. The part of the brain that advance was our ability ot feel emotion and use logic. This is why I haven't in the very least discredited some sort of "Higher power" playing a part in who we are today.
The comments found below most of science stories I find on the web
are like the commercials for viagra during the evening news. Enough already!
Don't you all realize, in 100 years you will all be dead, and no one will care about your condescending opinions. By then, people will have come up with some other stupid argument, and you probably won't have bones left on earth to fossilize. Wake up! What are you all fighting for anyway? Enjoy the science. Ponder the existence of a creator. Pay your bills.
And stop bringing everybody down!
Thanks Ben C...excellent point. However evolutionists have been brainwashed by Stephen Hawkings that Creationism cannot ever even be considered. Imagine, doing a science experient without a possible factor. Doesn't seem very scientific does it?
Ben C,
100 years ago (1912) the average life expectancy for a male in the U.S. was 50 years. Today it is 76+ years. Why is that? And what does the future hold?