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Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video
"The idea of deep time ... explains so much of the world around us," Bill Nye said in the viral video.
August 31st, 2012
04:34 PM ET

Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - Bill Nye's viral YouTube video pleading with parents not to teach their children to deny evolution has spawned an online life of its own, with prominent creationists hitting back against the popular TV host.

"Time is Nye for a Rebuttal," Ken Ham the CEO of Answers in Genesis writes on his website. Answers in Genesis is the Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

Nye's criticism of creationism went viral earlier this week, after being posted last Thursday.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it," Nye says in his Big Think video, which has been viewed nearly 3 million times.

Ham writes that Nye is joining in with other evolutionists who say teaching children to deny evolution is a form of "child abuse." That idea comes in part from the atheist scientist Richard Dawkins, who in his book "The God Delusion" argues against exposing children to religion before they are old enough to fully understand it.

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"At AiG and the Creation Museum, we teach children and adults the truth concerning who they are in the Creator’s eyes — and where they came from," Ham writes. "We tell people that they do have purpose and meaning in life and that they were created for a purpose. "No, we are not just evolved animals as Nye believes; we are all made in the image of God."

Ham is the public face of a group that academics call Young Earth Creationists, though they prefer to be called Biblical Creationists. They believe in a literal interpretation of the creation account in the book of Genesis found in the Bible.

The Creation Museum also produced its own rebuttal video on YouTube that features two of their staff scientists, both Ph.Ds, David Menton and Georgia Purdom.

"[Nye] might be interested to know I also teach my young daughter about evolution and I know many Christian parents who do the same," Purdom says in the video. "Children should be exposed to both ideas concerning our past."

For the past 30 years, one popular method for Creationists to advance their cause has been to make an equal-time argument,with Creationism taught alongside evolution. In the late 1980s, some state legislatures passed bills that promoted the idea of a balanced treatment of both ideas in the classroom.

In 1987, the issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, where a Louisiana "equal-time law" was struck down. The court ruled that teaching creationism in public school class rooms was a violation of the Establishment Cause in the Constitution, which is commonly referred to as the separation of church and state.

A key point between most scientists and many creationists is the timing for the origin of the world.

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Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth as 4.5 billion years old and the universe as 14.5 billion years old.

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye says in his viral video.

Young Earth Creationists say the weeklong account of God creating the earth and everything in it represents six 24-hour periods (plus one day of rest) and date the age of the earth between 6,000 and 10,000 years.

"Yes we see fossils and distant stars, but the history on how they got there really depends on our worldview," Purdom says in the museum's rebuttal. "Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

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Polling from Gallup has shown for the past 30 years that between 40-46% of the survey respondents believe in Creationism, that God created humans and the world in the past 10,000 years.

The most recent poll showed belief in atheistic evolution was on the rise at 16%, nearly double what it had been in previous years. The poll also found 32% of respondents believe in evolution guided by God.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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soundoff (5,973 Responses)
  1. Jim

    I have nose hairs. If I was made in God's image, why would God need nose hairs? Really?
    (I could go on, but let's keep it simple for now, eh?)

    September 1, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • ScottCA

      That so begs the question why did god need public hairs, or ass hairs?

      September 1, 2012 at 4:18 am |
    • ScottCA

      If we were designed what mad man would make us breath out the same hole we eat and drink from? Just so we can enjoy the lovely experience of choking to death on our own food? not a very intelligent design.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:26 am |
  2. BigDsays

    UGH, can we give it a rest already? Atheists are rapidly becoming more judgmental that the religious people they complain about. Both sides are giving me an ulcer, so everyone quit your bellyaching and live and let live.

    September 1, 2012 at 4:07 am |
    • ScottCA

      We do not complain about religious people being judgmental. We complain about them presenting stories as fact without any evidence.

      The dangers of ignorance do not stay self-contained, Faith requires one to believe without reason. This suppression of the minds ability to logically reason, leads to belief in untruths that send ripples of distortion into all areas of examination and study. This in turn leads to social and political decisions based on misinformation. The end result being the unnecessary suffering of people.

      We can see this happening currently in American society and politics, and in all societies with faith based religion.

      Atheists are becoming more militant. We are fighting back against the war on science in America, We are fighting for the rights of the oppressed such as gays and lesbians. We are fighting for women's rights in America and abroad. We are fighting to protect all children from abuse. In short we are fighting against ignorance and on the side of logic and reason.

      Atheists are growing in numbers far faster than any religion in American history, expect to see a lot more of this in the future.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:16 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>”Atheists are becoming more militant.

      ….. You tell them Bin Laden of Atheist 🙂 See, just another example of Atheism sounding more and more like a Religion every day. Your extremist side is showing Scott.

      >>>”We are fighting back against the war on science in America,

      …. Funny how Religious based school often out score public schools in the areas of Math and Science. Try winning the war on your own turf Scott, because the Faithful and Science have done well together. Or should I bring in a few Muslims to explain how many of those scientific discoveries were first done by Faithful Muslims?

      >>>”We are fighting for the rights of the oppressed such as gays and lesbians.”

      Funny, I have been to a Gay and Lesbian church.... We also have Gay and Lesbians being ordained in a few mainstream churches. So, like many of you on the extremes, you are picking a fight with an entire group when there is clear evidence that the entire group does not hold the same views. Sorry Scott.

      >>>”We are fighting for women's rights in America and abroad.”

      Wanna join in with support of the American Nuns, that were reported here on the Belief Blog, that are taking their fight to the Vatican for women's rights? Funny, another one down Scott.

      >>>”Atheists are growing in numbers far faster than any religion in American history, expect to see a lot more of this in the future.”

      Yall have the feeling that Scott needs to switch to Decaf? Scott, you are now parroting alqueda. They have declared that they are the largest growing group on the planet and after every attack they often say what you just did. ….. “....expect to see a lot more of this in the future.”

      Like I said, you words and spirit Scott, even with all the videos reminds me of a few Radical Black Power Muslims that I have met that can not use their own words but always want us to go to a video that they feel will change their minds.

      A few post down, you were shocked that I had watched and heard Bill Mahar “sermon” and that I was wrong for rejecting his word.

      Scott, Bill needs to blame his followers like you who are convincing folks that Atheism is a Religion.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:00 am |
    • Bob Bales

      ScottCA: Faith does not require belief without reason. Faith requires using reason to choose what to believe when proof does not exist.

      "We complain about them presenting stories as fact without any evidence." It seems to be ". . .any evidence that we will accept." The fact is that people believe in God and God as creator because they see evidence of these things. Atheists find the evidence unpersuasive and do not believe. This is legitimate. However, it is not legitimate for atheists (or anyone else) to set themselves up as arbitrators for society as to what is and is not evidence.

      "This suppression of the minds ability to logically reason, leads to belief in untruths that send ripples of distortion into all areas of examination and study." Just because you, or atheists in general, believe something to be untrue does not necessarily mean it is actually untrue.

      "This in turn leads to social and political decisions based on misinformation. The end result being the unnecessary suffering of people." If you believe that decisions and the principles on which they are based are wrong, you have the right to contend for your views. You do not have the right to prevent others from contending for their views because you think those views are wrong are illogical.

      "We are fighting back against the war on science in America." There is no war on science. The 'war' is on the idea that one particular view of the evidence should be taught and alternate views must be prohibited. It is one the idea that those who hold one view also should have the power to decide which views are legitimate.

      "In short we are fighting against ignorance and on the side of logic and reason." Your are fighting for your views. It is arrogance to claim that those using logic and reasoning must come to the same conclusions that you do and that any other conclusion is based on ignorance.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:05 am |
  3. Wade Tritschler

    The biggest problem with most the religious stuff is not that they can believe that way, not even that they tell their kids to believe that, but that they have this hypersensitivity to their children even being exposed to the scientific view point. This same kind of thing happens in other areas too where mere exposure to something outside their views is deemed totally unacceptable (and it isn't just religion here, heard some cases of other out of control nuts with non-religious issues). People just have to learn that your children will inevitably be exposed to this stuff. Trying to hide it from them is just trying to deny the reality of the world. If you want to push the view that evolution is wrong, fine, but don't stick your fingers in your kids ears every time someone mentions it.

    September 1, 2012 at 4:07 am |
  4. tarthethird

    Not sure how this became a reply, meant to post it on the main thread:

    What's ironic in this whole discussion of evolution is that science itself is an evolution of religion. They both seek to answer the same question: how does our universe work? Millenia ago, when we didn't have a definitive answer to this question, we invented religion and basically told everyone that the answer was one word: God. God is the reason for all things. Science has taken that same over-reaching question but added one stipulation: now prove it. The very meaning of science is to PROVE how our universe works, with definitive facts, not faith.

    Nye is saying that when it comes to education, children should learn to embrace this line of thought; that every question you ask should have an answer based on facts, and if there is no answer yet, we shouldn't resort to a religious, out-of-our-hands conclusion, but should instead strive to study the subject until a definitive answer can be reached. That's how progress works; it can't be made by throwing our hands up and the air and saying "only God knows why."

    Don't get me wrong, religious faith can be a powerfully positive thing when it comes to things like spirituality, family, and (some) moral values. All I'm saying is that when it comes to teaching our children how the universe and our world works, religion has no place in the classroom.

    September 1, 2012 at 4:03 am |
  5. Kona

    Is that the best rebuttal they can come up with? Always the appeal to unquestionable authority that cannot be falsified.

    September 1, 2012 at 3:58 am |
  6. ScottCA

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdBJL1c7xUI&w=640&h=360]

    September 1, 2012 at 3:53 am |
  7. lamb of dog

    Should we go with man's current theory backed by scientific facts such as carbon dating or do we go with some fairytale book written by men long ago who could never have fathomed what we know today.

    September 1, 2012 at 3:43 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      So, nothing written long ago could be expressed in matters we are dealing with today. I am Anti-Death Penalty, something that has carried on through time. If as an Atheist you do not have Faith in a God or Gods, the message of "he who is without sin" can apply today since state sponsored execution does still exist. So, that is an example of a issue that did exist back then as it still exist today.

      Also, ever look at the Creation texts? I could see if poof and there was Adam and the planet, then there could be an issue. But the Bible walks through the creation of the planet, formations of seas and land. It continues with different life forms, in animals, that were noted to walk the Earth before man (Adam). If you go with that interpretation then the writer of the testimony of Genesis was walking the same path that it would take Evolutionist hundreds of years to grasp.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:53 am |
    • ScottCA

      hmmmm a choice between using logic and reason to predict the natural world with a high degree of certaintude, or some old ancient book that has failed to predict anything correctly.

      Lets see... which is the sane choice.... hmmmm..... I will go with Logic and Reason and the ability to correctly predict the natural world over the book with no evidence to support it and failing to predict a single thing.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:56 am |
    • ScottCA

      The ignorance mark is advocating is the exact thing that led to 9/1. this is murderous ignorance.

      Nothing without evidence to support it can be cited as a reason for something. reason requires evidence to support it.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:00 am |
    • GodAlmighty

      The lord is for losers.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:01 am |
    • ScottCA

      9/1 was supposed to be 9/11 of course.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:01 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>”hmmmm a choice between using logic and reason to predict the natural world with a high degree of certaintude, or some old ancient book that has failed to predict anything correctly.”

      Scott, it is only an either or in your mind and the minds of people who take this issue to such extremes. Scott, I pointed to the Creation text and asked if you can not see what most in society sees, that it is not that far off of the theories of evolution. Take off the blinders of hate dude, and let it go.

      I want you to look at the Creation text. From the Earth floating through space as a blob of gases and matter to God creating humans. Take what Science many hundreds of years to come to a very similar conclusion.

      I am only advocating the Middle Ground Scott. That's all. The place where folks on both sides can see where their views can meet and co-exist. Then to sit back and watch who goes crazy when this happens. It's always going to be those like you Scott. The Pat Roberts and even the most hard core Taliban will always be like you, living in fear of people coming together.

      See, you need to look in the mirror for the stance that caused 9/11 because remember to the terrorist the Muslims that had found a way to work side by side with non-Muslims in Peace were the enemy the same.

      Peace, Understanding and Tolerance Scott. To hate is easy... anyone can do that. The true test of a person is to be able to work and live in a diverse society. Right now, you are not there Scott and that is pretty sad.

      Find another way Scott. You share company with a lot of pretty messed up folks.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:22 am |
    • Burnz

      @mark the river, how could an animal be noted if it came before man?

      September 1, 2012 at 5:32 am |
  8. chris

    It makes sense, a kid is too young to understand and make an informed decision. You go up to any kid and tell them if they are going to burn in hell because they do not believe in god, and are sinners, that to me is a threat. personally I am against threatening people especially those that are young. You can bet your house that they will want to believe. Problem is is that they are ill informed and are bases their belief of a fear that shouldn't be there.

    I am not a believer in any god, but then I do not classify my self as an atheist either. I am a person living my life without impeding on any else's right to live. That is what I am teaching my children. When they get older if they want to learn more about religion then fine, but I will make sure the info does not start out threatening them.

    September 1, 2012 at 3:41 am |
    • lamb of dog

      I Agree

      September 1, 2012 at 3:44 am |
    • Bob Bales

      You mistakenly assume that Christians teach their children to believe in God based on fear.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:58 am |
    • ScottCA

      Faith based Religion abuses kids, by threatening them and scaring them into submission to their authority without question.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • chris

      Bob when I was younger and went to church one of the first things that I was taught was that sinning was bad and sinners burn in hell. From my kids friends I can see that that has not changed at all. It is not that hard to see that church use fear and scare kids.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:17 am |
    • Jim

      How can they not teach their Children to believe God out of fear? God loves them... but He does so conditionally. It's like an abusive relationship. If whatever conditions the parents set up as "God's way" (which vary among Abrahamic religions and derivitives thereof) are not meant, they are condemned to an eternity (an infinite forward time span with no chance of redemption) to intolerable pain and sufering. Sounds pretty threatening to me. You can't miss the whole "H-E-double hockey sticks" thing if you attend church regularly. Reference the little kid on YouTube talking about gays–extreme, I admit, but soften that by a factor of 10 and you still have a problem of indoctrination through both love and fear.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:21 am |
    • Bob Bales

      What is being taught is that actions have consequences. The emphasis is not on living so as to escape eternal punishment as it is on living to have the best possible life, Atheists do not believe in eternal punishment, but how is this different in principle from teaching a child not to touch a hot stove, run into the street, or smoke?

      September 1, 2012 at 6:19 am |
  9. Clearly Abnormal

    The evolutionists and creationists have both gotten some things wrong. Here is what really happened:

    1. God created the earth, but it happened 4.5 billion years ago as science has determined.
    2. The life with which He populated earth was wiped out by a cataclysmic event. The dinosaurs and the prototype humans and all the other lifeforms preserved in the fossil record were killed.
    3. God came back for a second go-around, creating the current rev. of man and the Garden of Eden. Man was then given orders to "replenish" the earth which at that moment was void and without lifeforms. You don't replenish something that was just created and populated.

    September 1, 2012 at 3:38 am |
    • redzoa

      While the fossil record bears evidence of mass extinction, there is no evidence of complete destruction of life and there is a continuity of various forms before and after these various mass extinction events. Modern humans appear in the midst of a flourishing planet and overlap with neanderthals (including some limited gene transfer between the species). There is no clear break in the record of life as this model requires.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:48 am |
    • Logic

      Two things wrong with your argument.

      1) There is fossil evidence of life existing throughout the past hundreds of millions of years, life did not simply stop after the dinosaurs died out – organic life still carried on. There is no period in recent time (in millions of years) where life did not exist.

      2) You have no evidence for this and simply pulled it out of your ass. It would be nice to think of it this way – because it's a compromise of both views, but it's simply wrong. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:50 am |
  10. Brad76

    I have a good idea. People should just mind their own business. What a concept!

    September 1, 2012 at 3:24 am |
    • midwest rail

      Someday, Brad, contemporary faux Christians may heed your advice.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:35 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Yeah Midwest, we will remember that when some 3rd grader wants to do a book report on a book of the Bible or Koran and a bunch of Atheist lose their minds.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:43 am |
    • midwest rail

      Mark, IF that has ever happened, then whoever objected is an idiot. If it indeed has happened, can you point me to the story ?

      September 1, 2012 at 3:49 am |
    • tarthethird

      What's ironic in this whole discussion of evolution is that science itself is an evolution of religion. They both seek to answer the same question: how does our universe work? Millenia ago, when we didn't have a definitive answer to this question, we invented religion and basically told everyone that the answer was one word: God. God is the reason for all things. Science has taken that same over-reaching question but added one stipulation: now prove it. The very meaning of science is to PROVE how our universe works, with definitive facts, not faith.

      Nye is saying that when it comes to education, children should learn to embrace this line of thought; that every question you ask should have an answer based on facts, and if there is no answer yet, we shouldn't resort to a religious, out-of-our-hands conclusion, but should instead strive to study the subject until a definitive answer can be reached. That's how progress works; it can't be made by throwing our hands up and the air and saying "only God knows why."

      Don't get me wrong, religious faith can be a powerfully positive thing when it comes to things like spirituality, family, and (some) moral values. All I'm saying is that when it comes to teaching our children how the universe and our world works, religion has no place in the classroom.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:01 am |
  11. CJA

    They make all Christians seem stupid when in fact it is only a tiny minority of them who hold these views.

    This has happened before. Remember when the church told Galileo that he could not say the Earth revolved around the Sun. We look back on this and think those church guys were dumber than rocks. It is the same thing now all over again. "God told me the Earth is the center of the universe. Don't bother me with your telescopes and mathematics."

    September 1, 2012 at 3:17 am |
    • ScottCA

      Just as it is insane to believe in the 6ft tall green monster in my closet without evidence so is it insane to believe in god without evidence.

      Faith means to believe in something with no good reason. This is never an intelligent act. Faith is the opposite of intelligence.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:33 am |
    • supaflyirl

      "Polling from Gallup has shown for the past 30 years that between 40-46% of the survey respondents believe in Creationism, that God created humans and the world in the past 10,000 years."

      Yeah, I guess 40-46% is still technically a minority.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:36 am |
    • Bob Bales

      This is not what creationists say. They say, "Don't treat the assumptions on which evolution is based as facts, simply because you insist that life had to have developed by purely natural means."

      September 1, 2012 at 4:04 am |
    • Bob Bales

      Faith does not mean to believe in something with no good reason. Faith means to believe in something you cannot prove based on what the evidence indicates.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:13 am |
    • Lionel Brown

      Wow, polling to decide what is fact and what is fiction. That is certainly a novel approach to research. Carbon dating doesn't exist because people don't believe in it? And do we poll for which God is the correct God, because there are certainly myriad religions and interpretations of God? Let's just have a poll as to what the weather is going to be instead of using scientific satellites for pictures and science for predictions. Quite a curious approach, right?

      September 1, 2012 at 4:20 am |
  12. Lynnette

    There is not a single shred of evidence to support creationism. It is the vestige of people who are afraid of the dark, clinging to hopes of 'divine' power. Don't get me wrong I am open to any proof anyone has but sincerely you can't produce any and faith is no answer. In every plane crash there are people praying to god does he hate the ones that die?

    September 1, 2012 at 3:15 am |
    • CJA

      You over estimate the ability of these creationists. They don't understand science and think that science is something that you have to "believe in". The connection between DNA and population genetics is lost on them. To them science is just a huge collection of facts they must accept on faith or authority. They see it as competing on equal footing.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:27 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"To them science is just a huge collection of facts they must accept on faith or authority. They see it as competing on equal footing."

      The competing part? Since many, if not a majority of those in Science are also of Faith then it seems that only folks like you and the 700 club types see this as some compet'ition. The bulk of society does not see the debate between Faith and Science that you folks do. They are happy to work at curing diseases and still saying their prayers that night. 🙂

      Face it, to the general public, this is hardly a issue.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:40 am |
    • Bob Bales

      The connection between DNA and population genetics is not lost on creationists. However, they recognize that neither DNA nor population genetics indicate that all life developed from a common ancestor.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:17 am |
  13. ScottCA

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8U_JveHS8E&w=640&h=360]
    Very witty and very true!

    September 1, 2012 at 3:07 am |
    • Bender

      LOL!! Nice.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:16 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Well, Websters defines, as its 5th entry :

      >>>"5. a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor(zeal) and faith "

      We can just point to the Billboards and Bill's argument is finished. So, Bill is picking and choosing which part of the definition of Religion to suit his needs and cause. ....

      wait... isn't that what Atheist claim that the Faithful do and now Bill, an Atheist is doing?

      Sounds like Bill is acting very very Religious. 🙂

      September 1, 2012 at 3:35 am |
    • ScottCA

      Mark there is no faith component. You just showed your own stupidity and little else.

      Faith is to believe in something with no good reason to. Bill just spent 6 min and 4 seconds explaining to you that he follows reason and thus the opposite of faith.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:50 am |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>”Mark there is no faith component. You just showed your own stupidity and little else.”

      I just showed that all you have to do is seek peace and middle ground and those who are in fear of such will start name calling and ...well lose their minds 🙂

      You are defining Faith as something “”no good reason”. Again, to continue to put you to task Scott. To a person on the 700 Club side of say Christianity, they would argue that there is “no good reason” to not have Faith in God. Both you and them dismiss the others views so strongly that they defy you reason that anyone would hold such.

      Bill quoted that Faith is defined and all it took was a trip to Merriam Websters online and I countered Bill with the actual definition and how people have a point to say that Atheism is a Religion.

      Now, to defeat you as I did with Bill. Let's return to Websters. Faith:

      “3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction”

      Since Bill was cherry picking, just like others of Religions do 🙂 … I will point you to the 3rd entry for “Faith”. I do not see your “no good reason”, in Websters. Can you tell me where you came up with it?

      Let me help you Scott. The Nobel Peace Prize committee stated that basically they gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for action that they had faith, that he would accomplish. If I am a most Far Right Republican, I would echo your remarks and say that they are believing in something with no good reason to believe that Obama would do any thing ...that “I” would consider good acts.

      The Faith component is there by the sheer Faith that Atheist feel that their belief that there is not a God or Gods is true.

      ....and really, name calling.... sorry to late into the night to start a flame war. 🙂

      September 1, 2012 at 4:42 am |
  14. End Religion

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4iaUFSkME&w=640&h=360]

    September 1, 2012 at 3:06 am |
    • ScottCA

      End Religion, That video had me laughing so hard I nearly fell on the floor. Thanks man. Great Video!

      September 1, 2012 at 3:18 am |
  15. End Religion

    Free yourself from the shackles of a life based on a poorly written piece of fiction.

    September 1, 2012 at 3:04 am |
    • Bob Bales

      I assume that you mean the Bible. I believe that it is not a poorly written work of fiction. You would be unwilling to live your life by my belief, so why would you expect me to live your life by my belief, so why would you expect me to live my life by your belief? And why do you assume that my belief is shackling my life?

      September 1, 2012 at 4:26 am |
  16. ScottCA

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tQIB4UdiY&w=640&h=360]

    September 1, 2012 at 3:01 am |
  17. What silliness

    Well, we should all get a "thank you" from Bill Nye. He had sort of disappeared from notice and now after making a few divisive comments on some minor blog, he has gotten a whole bunch of us arguing about yet another thing which we will neither agree nor really matters when it comes to the development of either thought or civilization at least so far as our arguing about it. But if it gets him another paid interview or appearance of some sort, he will be happy. As long as we all had fun and nobody takes it too seriously, I guess it is all part of the new economy.

    September 1, 2012 at 2:54 am |
    • Lagos

      Someone that misses the spotlight says something to get attention, people take the bait. Pretty predictable, actually. It's kind of sad, Bill used to be kind of cool.

      September 1, 2012 at 2:58 am |
    • CTYank

      Sure seems to me like a useful discussion. Don't know what your motivation is in belittling it.

      We've got lots of people that'll believe anything if some preacher, parent, etc. says "it's scripture-verse." Some of those preachers have a decidedly skewed view of the universe, as seen above. What we believe should not be based on fairy-tales but provable fact. Otherwise, there's no shame in saying "I don't know."

      Many christian philosophers/theologians have a much deeper understanding of these things, and no problem with evolution. The ones with the "young universe" need to evolve and use that brain.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:31 am |
    • Bob Bales

      CTYank: We've got lots of people who assume that religious people (probably specifically Christians)/creationism simply because they have been told by an authority figure that they follow blindly. They do not understand, and perhaps cannot accept that people who believe in Christianity and/or creationism do so because they have looked at the evidence and believe what they find it indicates. I suspect, and I apologize if I'm wrong, that you do not want people to 'use their brains' so much as to come to the same conclusions that you do. The two are not the same thing.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:37 am |
  18. ezo

    "We'll make great pets, we'll make great pets!"

    September 1, 2012 at 2:53 am |
  19. Josh

    "Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth and the universe as 4.5 billion years old."

    Planet Earth is 4.5 billlion years old...

    The entire Universe is approximately 14.6 billion years old.

    September 1, 2012 at 2:49 am |
    • Anon

      HA, I was just about to say that myself. Who writes this stuff? Even Wikipedia knows what the age of the universe is...

      September 1, 2012 at 2:55 am |
    • gluonspring

      Me as well. I was also toying with mentioning the other factual error in that sentence. "Vast majority" is an understatement of the first order. That suggests that there exist scientists who think the earth is young. There do not. There exist con artists like Ham and his lackeys who believe such things, and I suppose many people with limited science literacy believe such things, but no actual scientists do. The Earth is old, and all scientists know this.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:13 am |
    • that guy

      dont you get it ? if some one says the universe is only 4.5 billion years old then there trying to say the earth has basically been here as long as the universe and there a creationist trying to distort facts. they might even let there guard down and say something like the devil put fosils in the ground to deceive humanity.

      not sure what a CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor does but its not fact checking. 4.5 billion is about right for this planet not the universe

      September 1, 2012 at 3:20 am |
    • ScottCA

      Wow this article is terribly embarrassing for CNN. that error in the article should be reported to them, so they can change it.
      Pretty shameful display by CNN.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:34 am |
    • ScottCA

      Thanks Josh. I reported the error using CNN's Contact us option and selecting the error option. I suggest others report it as well, to ensure it is changed immediately to be factual.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:43 am |
    • Bob Bales

      What is your definition of 'actual scientist' and how does it exclude all creationists? If you say that an actual scientist is one who believes the earth is billions of years old, that doesn't count.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:44 am |
  20. TMcD

    Another reason America has become a laughing stock......another reason your country is stuck in neutral.

    September 1, 2012 at 2:49 am |
    • CJA

      Yes there are many anti-science people but they are a tiny minority.

      September 1, 2012 at 3:43 am |
    • ScottCA

      They are not a minority by much over 40% of Americans think the earth is 10,000 years old or less, and don't believe it is 4 billion years old like science shows us.

      Religion is ruining the intellect of Americans.

      September 1, 2012 at 4:22 am |
    • Bob Bales

      Science is a process. It does not show us that the earth is 4 billion years old. Rather, that is the assertion of one particular theory that is based on unproven assumptions. (In a standard geology textbook, there was a list of, if I remember right, eleven things that must be true for radioactive dating methods to be accurate. That they can be seriously wrong is shown by their assignment of an age of billions of years to volcanic rocks in Hawaii known to be about a hundred years old.)

      September 1, 2012 at 4:53 am |
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