Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video
"The idea of deep time ... explains so much of the world around us," Bill Nye said in the viral video.
August 31st, 2012
04:34 PM ET

Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - Bill Nye's viral YouTube video pleading with parents not to teach their children to deny evolution has spawned an online life of its own, with prominent creationists hitting back against the popular TV host.

"Time is Nye for a Rebuttal," Ken Ham the CEO of Answers in Genesis writes on his website. Answers in Genesis is the Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

Nye's criticism of creationism went viral earlier this week, after being posted last Thursday.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it," Nye says in his Big Think video, which has been viewed nearly 3 million times.

Ham writes that Nye is joining in with other evolutionists who say teaching children to deny evolution is a form of "child abuse." That idea comes in part from the atheist scientist Richard Dawkins, who in his book "The God Delusion" argues against exposing children to religion before they are old enough to fully understand it.

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"At AiG and the Creation Museum, we teach children and adults the truth concerning who they are in the Creator’s eyes — and where they came from," Ham writes. "We tell people that they do have purpose and meaning in life and that they were created for a purpose. "No, we are not just evolved animals as Nye believes; we are all made in the image of God."

Ham is the public face of a group that academics call Young Earth Creationists, though they prefer to be called Biblical Creationists. They believe in a literal interpretation of the creation account in the book of Genesis found in the Bible.

The Creation Museum also produced its own rebuttal video on YouTube that features two of their staff scientists, both Ph.Ds, David Menton and Georgia Purdom.

"[Nye] might be interested to know I also teach my young daughter about evolution and I know many Christian parents who do the same," Purdom says in the video. "Children should be exposed to both ideas concerning our past."

For the past 30 years, one popular method for Creationists to advance their cause has been to make an equal-time argument,with Creationism taught alongside evolution. In the late 1980s, some state legislatures passed bills that promoted the idea of a balanced treatment of both ideas in the classroom.

In 1987, the issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, where a Louisiana "equal-time law" was struck down. The court ruled that teaching creationism in public school class rooms was a violation of the Establishment Cause in the Constitution, which is commonly referred to as the separation of church and state.

A key point between most scientists and many creationists is the timing for the origin of the world.

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Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth as 4.5 billion years old and the universe as 14.5 billion years old.

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye says in his viral video.

Young Earth Creationists say the weeklong account of God creating the earth and everything in it represents six 24-hour periods (plus one day of rest) and date the age of the earth between 6,000 and 10,000 years.

"Yes we see fossils and distant stars, but the history on how they got there really depends on our worldview," Purdom says in the museum's rebuttal. "Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

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Polling from Gallup has shown for the past 30 years that between 40-46% of the survey respondents believe in Creationism, that God created humans and the world in the past 10,000 years.

The most recent poll showed belief in atheistic evolution was on the rise at 16%, nearly double what it had been in previous years. The poll also found 32% of respondents believe in evolution guided by God.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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soundoff (5,973 Responses)
  1. WayneD

    Religion is for the weak and scared. Please realize that all religions were created by man to provide a safe haven from their fears. Sometimes the truth is very scary. I pity those who cannot use their own mind and rely on a crutch to survive. We live and then we die. Enjoy life as it is truly amazing.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      While I agree, I think there's another not much acknowledged group of the innocently ignorant. It is indeed sad when someone willfully turns there back on reality out of fear. They deserve our sympathy and love, along with our encouragement and support to nudge them back into the real world.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
  2. nhc150

    For someone with a degree in Geology, this is pretty sad that nearly half of the population still think the Earth is 10,000 years old. Radiometric dating has routinely shown the oldest rock found on Earth is 4 billion years old, but a 2000 year old book written reigns supremacy over solid science?

    No wonder we're behind in science and mathematics compared to other countries.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • katty wompus

      God intentionally left all that radiometric stuff in at the creation in order to confuse us later. Just like he planted all them fossils and things.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
  3. jordan

    Our Universe is Billions of Years Old.It is a lot older than 10000 Years.USA has to many people who do not believe in Science.They should go live in a Cave or some kind of Farm.Just make sure you have No Electricity or Running Water there.In the Summertime you can take a Vacation in the Creationalist Amusement Park.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • DJP

      Isn't it a bit silly to determine as a foundation of arguments that science must explain everything and science is always right in it's explanations. There are many examples where the science of the time was wrong and needed to be corrected.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And that is precisely what science does. It continues to question and probe and discover–not just sit back and marvel at how pretty the flowers are. Science continues to challenge current thinking and as a result, we now have vaccines that prevent polio, treatment that can cure diseases that were once deadly, computers that fit on a desk top, and safer cars.

      Of course, science continues to overturn previous thinking! That's why we have progress. That's why we're not still in the Dark Ages-which is where we'd still be if religion were the basis for all our thinking.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
  4. common sense

    “It is absurd for the evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly
    unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing and then pretend that it is
    more thinkable that nothing should turn itself into everything.” –G.K. Chesterton, St.Thomas Aquinas.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      What's with the names of the two different people at the end? Was it a quote they both said or something?

      September 1, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
  5. Don

    Science fails to support, in fact directly contradicts, the young earth creationists position which makes their argument non-science or nonsense. Children should not be taught nonsense.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  6. Ketzazu

    You have no idea of what creation is. Have you ever read the story of creation with understanding?

    The story hints that life on this planet can not be more than 6,000 years old according to our reckoning of time. The same lifespan goes for the sun, the moon, and the stars and else "above" us. However, the creation story that is reported in Genesis hints that Earth and waters are ageless: thousands, million, billion, trillion, or whatever number you may chose years old!!!

    For, The Intelligent Creator did not call waters and earth into existence as he did for the earth's landscaping that was put in place to sustain our life that He made from dust. His Spirit was already hovering over the waters before He called the Light that kindles the whole universe in an instant. The sun, as source of light, came after His Light lights up the farthest galaxies in an instant.

    Take time to read the genesis creation story with comprehension and intelligence and you will discover for yourself there is a lot of misunderstanding about the creation. Are you and the evolutionists intelligent enough to understand those fine prints in the story of Creation? I believe the Intelligent Designer has given you intelligence to understand. Make good use of it and go read the story of creation in the Bible. It is beyond any imagination. That is why God is God and not an easily proven demagogue like the so called scientists.

    To put it plainly: according to the story of creation in the bible, waters and earth are ageless: thousands, million, billion, trillion years old [pick one that suits you] but life on earth with her sun, moon, stars et cetera is just as old as our reckoning of time.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • katty wompus

      That is the whole point. It is a STORY. People love stories. They make stuff up ALL THE TIME.

      Kinda like "I read it on the Internet so it must be true" idiocy

      September 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
  7. DJP

    It is just amazing to me how many people can actually convince themselves there is no God. That there is no design and that we, human beings, were not created with a plan. It makes me ashamed of what humans have done with the gifts God has provided. Of course that also answers for many of the woes we humans feel in day to day life.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • edweird69

      So, who designed the designer? If it takes a god to make something from nothing, then it would take a god to make a god. Your logic is circular. So, we humans have trouble, because "we don't believe something"? What a obsurd notion! Since when does not believing something, warrant punishment?

      September 1, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I think it's pretty amazing that people have to pretend that because we don't know everything about the beginnings of the universe that some fairy must have said "Shazam!" and it all sprang full-blown as we see it today. I think it's sad that people deny that evolution is occurring and that it is the process by which we have adapted and become increasingly intelligent.

      You want to believe, fine. I'll leave you to it as long as you don't demand that others accept your beliefs as truth.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • nonbeliever

      You argue as though humans' belief in God is our default state, that we must convince ourselves otherwise, but that's not consistent with the most fundamental Christian tenet: one must come to accept Christ in order to be saved. For the record—as preposterous as I find the all-knowing, mind-reading invisible zombie-Jew in the sky, as obnoxiously anti-intelligent as I find believers—it is this tenet that cinched my status as a nonbeliever. It smacks of human invention. Humans endlessly require validation; omnipotent beings would surely not. You may keep your needy god.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • wavejump1100

      many people believe in god and science just not religion.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • katty wompus

      Humans are like every other critter on this planet. We eat, crap, screw, and die. All while eating other critters in an attempt to completely infest the local environment with offspring, who are food for other critters. Until the food or water run out.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  8. t3chn0ph0b3

    "Another are of fuzzy thinking out there is the movement called Intelligent Design. It asserts that some things are too marvelous or too intricate to explain. The contention is that these things defy common scientific accounts for cause and effect, and so they're ascribed to an intelligent, purposeful designer. [...] So let's start a movement called Stupid Design, and we'll see where that takes us. For example, what's going on with your appendix? It's much better at killing you than it is at anything else. That's definitely a stupid design. What about your pinky toenail? You can barely put nail polish on it; there's no real estate there. How about bad breath, or the fact that you breathe and drink through the same hole in your body, causing some fraction of us to choke to death every year? And here's my last one. Ready? Down there between our legs, it's like an entertainment complex in the middle of a sewage system. Who designed that?"

    ~Neil deGrasse Tyson, Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Fodder

    September 1, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  9. TheLostSurveyor

    I am constantly reading about how far the US is behind in science and mathematics. After reading this garbage I can see why.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Me too. I was always puzzled how people could fail to understand global warming, or the importance of stem cell research.
      As I have examined the ignorance being spread by religion, I have been horrified by how widespread and endemic this problem is.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Me

      This really has no bearing at all as to why we are behind in math and science. XBOX, Playstation, internet, now those are more in line with why we are behind. A lack of study time maybe?

      September 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      While all of those contribute to our failure to perform well in science, the lack of emphasis on science in school is a bigger part of the problem.

      September 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
  10. James229

    If horses had gods...that's a great point to make. I fully agree with that.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
    • If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

      I think we agree on much, especially a good spirited debate!

      September 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  11. If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

    Even if a God(s) exist, they obviously don't affect our daily lives, so what's the point of having God(s)? Is it so we can earn our way into heaven? If so, what's the point of eternal life in worshipful bliss of God(s) .. to what end, why?

    September 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

      What? Not one follower has any reason or purpose for the existence of God(s) or heaven?

      September 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
  12. Giorgio S. Germanos

    There is a fundamental error in the article above.

    To quote:
    "Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth and the universe as 4.5 billion years old."

    Yes, the Earth is 4.5 Billion Years Old.
    The Universe, HOWEVER, is 14.5 Billion Years Old.

    Please correct.


    September 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Use the contact us option at the bottom of the main page in small print. to report that error. I did it last night but no one changed it I guess. If everyone reports it hopefully they will correct it. There is no excuse for CNN making such a terrible factual mistake that just adds to a topic with so much misinformation already being spread.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Numerous posters have pointed out the error. Nobody at CNN is reading these posts.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • ScottCA

      I have reported the error as both editorial and grammatical. Hopefully with enough reports they will correct this.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Don't just post the error. Go to the main page, click on contact us, click on error, choose editorial or grammar, paste the error and the URL link. type the correction that needs to be made.

      This is how to report an error to CNNs attention.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • ScottCA

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      September 1, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  13. ScottCA

    The more I see the ignorance and lack of knowledge regarding applied reason and logic (otherwise known as science), the more I am driven to combat against this danger. I was a teacher overseas, and I can tell you I have never seen ignorance in such abundance regarding the very corner stones of science as I am seeing in America. I am in utter horror as one witnessing inanity spread so widely within the populace.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      And the churches are doing everything to push us closer to this mass hysteria. Shame on them.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Well clearly anyone who would present something as truth without any evidence to support it, has no shame.
      The church has used baseless lies to empower itself with wealth and authority, frightening people with figurative death and real death for disobedience. Faith based priests have no shame and no morals.

      This is not surprising since to discuss what one should do or ought to do requires reasons, and faith means to believe in something without good reason. Thus faith has nothing to contribute to morality.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  14. W.G.

    I believe in I.D. ( intelligent design ) because even Darwin said his theories were just that , theories .
    Most of the nazis and adolph hitler were evolutionist . It made it easier to kill people they deemed inferior
    I don´t believe in all religions because all of them except for Judaism and Christianity are fake . Darwinism
    is impossible to believe . How can something come to life from rocks ? Get real .

    September 1, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Good grief...

      September 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      This post is so depressing I can't even be bothered to address its idiocy.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • lamb of dog

      Why do you idiots always bring up nazis? More scare tactics just like burning in hell. Its really pathetic.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Similarly, W.G. doesn't believe in maths because eleventeen plus horse radish just doesn't equal potato--as we all know.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • tallulah13


      September 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • G. Zeus Kreiszchte

      This comment is so absurd it was surely posted by a troll pretending to be something s/he is not.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • ScottCA

      You clearly are confused about what the term theory means in the sense of applied logic and science.


      September 1, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • pockets

      You lack of education and knowledge of the world is pathetic. Look outside of your stupidity and do something you rarely do, and that is THINK. Your not long out of the cave and have not advanced enough to see that the fables and myths of the past are just that, myths, but ignorant farmers who would sacriface people and animals to "appease" the "gods's" to bring rain. Thor, Neptune, Ra, Poisdeon, it goes on and on, all 'god's' finally cast aside as fairy tales. Yet a carpenter, leads you to some 'glory land' if you OBEY. Get real.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      W.G. you are so right. Scientist lack fiber in their diet. They should push out the real stuff. Demand absolute certainty and nothing less from your scientists. If they come to you with that "theory" crap, smack them around and tell them to grow a pair.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • If horses had Gods .. their Gods would be horses

      Apparently W.G. doesn't know that Hitler was a born and raised devout Catholic who admitted he used religion for power and control. This W.G. is playing in the big kids sandbox by mistake.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Oh very much so Hitler believed the Aryans were chosen by god to rule the world.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • Observant Historian

      This repeats gross misunderstanding of what the word "theory" means, especially in science. Given how many times that definition has been offered to creationists, repeating the "evolution is just a theory" claim is now simply a lie. Saying that Hitler was an evolutionist is also a lie that has been debunked repeatedly. You can learn that for yourself by reading what Hitler said, instead of just reading the lies you are fed. Evolution neither claims that life came from a rock (however, the Bible says Adam came from mud....), nor pretends to explain the origin of life – it explains the process of evolution. Again, these are simple facts that creationists lie about incessantly. If you want to debate evolution, you might want to at least learn a few basic facts.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      "Mike Godwin" would be proud, as "Godwin's Law" has come to pass on this discussion thread.


      September 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Jesus Christ

      Oh WG...you silly man. You don't think that you christians used my fathers name and my own name to kill millions of people during the Inquisition? Don't you read? Don't you know anything about history? Americans are becoming the most stupid people on the face of the planet, and you know what's sad? You don't have an excuse for it! You don't! You have everything at your fingertips and you allow the blind faith of religion to keep you from progressing.
      Before you say that it was easy for Hitler to kill because of his religious beliefs, why don't you educate yourself about your christian history and how you people have decimated humanity for 2000 years.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • CJ

      @Moby Schtick. Your comment does not even make sense. Because eleventeen plus horseradish equals the melting point of the number 7! Therefore Darwinism is a lie!

      September 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • t3chn0ph0b3

      Uh, the bible says stuff came to life from dirt. You're a complete ignoramus even about your own religion.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  15. PrayerFull

    So the Roman Church chose Ratzinger over this fellow? They never miss a chance to slide backwards.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • PrayerFull

      wrong thread

      September 1, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • therealpeace2all




      September 1, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  16. ScottCA


    September 1, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  17. Braden Throm

    That's Funny, Because if he would have been FOR CREATIONISM... You all would be telling the EVOLUTIONISTS to stop complaining.... Yet your the ones COMPLAINING Right now....

    September 1, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • Braden Throm

      No Different then Chic-Fil-A!! The Catholics Complained about OREO Released a GAY ADD with Rainbow Oreos... OMG WE MUST BOYCOTT and then Chic-Fil-A Says Something ANTI GAY And your all... OMG STOP PROTESTING THIS IS STUPID.....

      September 1, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  18. Open your eyes

    Creationism Vs. Evolution

    Lets look at our contenders! In this corner, weighing in at 400 million years of earth history, with direct and obvious correlation between ancient fossils and modern man, backed by the research of Anthropologists, Archeologists, Biologists, Taxonomists, and just about every other “ist” you can think of, it’s EVOLUTION! And now the challenger: coming to us from The Book of Genesis, weighing in at a measly 6000 years, subject to doubt, translation, and interpretation, with no physical evidence whatsoever, it’s INTELLIGENT DESIGN (ID). Yes, folks, just look at them. Two mighty fighters: one based on science, the other on faith. Who will win? Only one way to tell: let them fight! And the bell rings for round one!
    ID is out of the corner fast, and swings a left at EVOLUTION backed by the faith of millions. A good hit, but EVOLUTION shrugs it off, there’s just no denting all that evidence. EVOLUTION strikes back, a tremendous uppercut of doubt to ID’s chin, lifting him off the mat! Look at those wobbly legs, looks like ID has nothing to stand on but his fan’s support. They sure are loud! They’re cheering him on even though he can’t possibly go the distance in this fight. OOHHH! It’s a cheap political hit below the belt by ID, don’t count him out yet! It’s followed by a weak school administration jab, but EVOLUTION just seems like a rock. He’s right up in ID’s face, taunting him. It’s like he knows he can’t lose this fight. He throws ID in the corner, pummeling him with scientific facts. The bell rings at the end of the round, and we see ID arguing with the Government Referee, complaining that he should be able to visit elementary schools as the sole role model, and not EVOLUTION. Looks like it’s going to be a long fight folks, at least until ID’s fans realize how arrogant he is in wanting to be the champ without deserving it, and quit paying the high ticket price in lost knowledge for kids. EVOLUTION looks smug, he’s seen them come and go. ID might get in a good hit every few years, but it looks like EVOLUTION is here to stay.

    September 1, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Raider

      Fantastic post!

      September 1, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Open your eyes

      Thanks, Raider. I wrote that years ago...

      September 1, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Open your eyes



      September 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • Ketzazu

      "In this corner, weighing in at 400 million years of earth history, with direct and obvious correlation between ancient fossils and modern man, backed by the research of Anthropologists, Archeologists, Biologists, Taxonomists, and just about every other “ist” you can think of, it’s EVOLUTION!"
      That quote is from "Open Your Eyes"

      I am baffled to think that there are human brains that take that long to process infornation: what do you expect from the mind of somebody whose ancestry takes 400 million years to arrive in our time today. I think evolutionists need another 400 million years to realize they make no sense.
      Evolutionists should do some DNA testing to discover if they are chimpanze or gorilla bloodline, for example. They would then join their ancestors in their habitats to educate and care for them at home or wherever they wish as a sign of gratefulness. I care for my bloodline: my old parents and my children. I want to be with them. The same should be for those who evolved from monkeys, chimpanzees, gorillas and the sort: join and be with them as a sign of love because without them you would not have been here today. Yeah! One of your great, great ,great, great, great, great... ancestors was a monkey, a gorilla, a chimpanzee etc... For me, I came from from Adam and Eve, a fabled bloddline but, I believe, who were fashioned by The Intelligent Designer in His image, with no association with any monkey or gibbon or gorilla or the like.
      I was created in the image of the God of Genesis but the Evolutionists evolved from the image of a monkey or a chimpanzee or a gorilla! We pay homage to whom we know.

      September 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
  19. jellylee2020

    Oh, gotta love those religious nutcases trying to disguise faith as science.

    September 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • Observant Historian

      What gets me is the fundamental dishonesty of the creationists. They knowingly repeat the same lies over and over and over, and yet we're supposed to believe that "faith" is such a crucial indicator of and guide to their piety. If there is a higher power, these creationist repudiate the greatest gift they could receive – their ability to reason.

      September 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  20. ScottCA


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