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Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video
"The idea of deep time ... explains so much of the world around us," Bill Nye said in the viral video.
August 31st, 2012
04:34 PM ET

Creationists hit back at Bill Nye with their own video

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - Bill Nye's viral YouTube video pleading with parents not to teach their children to deny evolution has spawned an online life of its own, with prominent creationists hitting back against the popular TV host.

"Time is Nye for a Rebuttal," Ken Ham the CEO of Answers in Genesis writes on his website. Answers in Genesis is the Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

Nye's criticism of creationism went viral earlier this week, after being posted last Thursday.

"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, that's completely inconsistent with the world we observe, that's fine. But don't make your kids do it," Nye says in his Big Think video, which has been viewed nearly 3 million times.

Ham writes that Nye is joining in with other evolutionists who say teaching children to deny evolution is a form of "child abuse." That idea comes in part from the atheist scientist Richard Dawkins, who in his book "The God Delusion" argues against exposing children to religion before they are old enough to fully understand it.

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"At AiG and the Creation Museum, we teach children and adults the truth concerning who they are in the Creator’s eyes — and where they came from," Ham writes. "We tell people that they do have purpose and meaning in life and that they were created for a purpose. "No, we are not just evolved animals as Nye believes; we are all made in the image of God."

Ham is the public face of a group that academics call Young Earth Creationists, though they prefer to be called Biblical Creationists. They believe in a literal interpretation of the creation account in the book of Genesis found in the Bible.

The Creation Museum also produced its own rebuttal video on YouTube that features two of their staff scientists, both Ph.Ds, David Menton and Georgia Purdom.

"[Nye] might be interested to know I also teach my young daughter about evolution and I know many Christian parents who do the same," Purdom says in the video. "Children should be exposed to both ideas concerning our past."

For the past 30 years, one popular method for Creationists to advance their cause has been to make an equal-time argument,with Creationism taught alongside evolution. In the late 1980s, some state legislatures passed bills that promoted the idea of a balanced treatment of both ideas in the classroom.

In 1987, the issue made it all the way to the Supreme Court, where a Louisiana "equal-time law" was struck down. The court ruled that teaching creationism in public school class rooms was a violation of the Establishment Cause in the Constitution, which is commonly referred to as the separation of church and state.

A key point between most scientists and many creationists is the timing for the origin of the world.

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Nye's argument falls in line with the vast majority of scientists, who date the age of the earth as 4.5 billion years old and the universe as 14.5 billion years old.

"The idea of deep time of billions of years explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your worldview becomes crazy, untenable, itself inconsistent," Nye says in his viral video.

Young Earth Creationists say the weeklong account of God creating the earth and everything in it represents six 24-hour periods (plus one day of rest) and date the age of the earth between 6,000 and 10,000 years.

"Yes we see fossils and distant stars, but the history on how they got there really depends on our worldview," Purdom says in the museum's rebuttal. "Do we start with man's ideas, who wasn't here during man's supposed billions of years of earth history or do we start with the Bible, the written revelation of the eyewitness account of the eternal God who created it all?"

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Polling from Gallup has shown for the past 30 years that between 40-46% of the survey respondents believe in Creationism, that God created humans and the world in the past 10,000 years.

The most recent poll showed belief in atheistic evolution was on the rise at 16%, nearly double what it had been in previous years. The poll also found 32% of respondents believe in evolution guided by God.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Creationism • Science

soundoff (5,973 Responses)
  1. the kat

    If you look around some parents should not be parents and not be allowed to teach their children anyttrhing let alone about god. The first amendment is the freedom of religion and seperation of church and state, Let me interpret, anyone can believe in stupid things and call it religion but dont try to make it a govt rule of law.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:55 pm |
  2. McCune

    if public schools are to avoid religion, then there's no room for creationism. if they are to include religion, i want to hear the navajo version to how the earth began.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
  3. albie

    Yet another example of Christians trying to impose their idiotic beliefs on the rest of the world - I wish to god we could outlaw religion - it is a form of oppression and brain washing ...

    August 31, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      So a person who is calling for censorship wants his own form of brainwashing.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Larry

      "I WISH TO GOD we could outlaw religion"...deep, very deep!

      September 1, 2012 at 12:10 am |
  4. pg13

    To the author:

    * Scientists date the earth to about 4.7 billion years. The universe is dated a little less than thrice as long. (The universe and earth are not the same age.)

    * Dawkins believes in atheism because evolution is true; Not the other way around.

    Regards.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  5. craig

    In short, it remains true today: You can't fix dumb!

    August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  6. TheRationale

    Bill Nye knows nothing of the truth of the Stork Theory of reproduction either. Genitalia and the facts and science behind them are just distractions placed by the devil to divert your hearts and minds from the truth.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • Bob smith the real deal

      Oh, and i am sure all of those dinosaur bones we find were put there by the devil too?.... Give me a break, go live in your empty shell of a life but make sure your kids know that your just a crazy old nut. Thanks.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Gadflie

      Er, Bob, read that post again. Think "sarcasm".

      August 31, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
  7. SM

    "Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knew should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:9-11 People can believe what they want. God gave us that free will. But someday everyone will bow to Jesus and confess that He is the Son of God. My question to you is: "What if the Bible is true?" Do you want to take the chance that you will miss out on what God has for your life and after this life? The Bible contains books written over thousands of years that have over 500,000 cross references. That is something that should not be taken with a grain of salt.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:47 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      I'm pretty sure you don't understand the phrase "grain of salt."

      August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • adelita01

      The bible is a book of mythology just like the old Greek and Egyptian myths.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • TheRationale

      Pascal's Wager (and circular reasoning) yet again. It doesn't work. It actually works extremely against your favor if you analyze it.

      What if the Quran is true? What about the countless other books that could be true and you could be missing out on? Statistically you're done for.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • pre-runner

      Blah, blah, blah. Me think you does protest too much.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • sp

      wait! Jesus is the SON of God ? I thought Jesus was God. Dang. Shouldn't have born a Hindu ! I am in trouble now !!

      August 31, 2012 at 11:53 pm |
    • albie

      the world would be a better place without people who believe the way you do - that is what I believe in

      September 1, 2012 at 12:00 am |
    • Appalled

      You just made a little vomit rise into my throat... If you truly are a "believer" when was the last time you volunteered your time for anything? Your saviou believed in helping all.. I'm guessing you only worry about your own salvation. Putrescence

      September 1, 2012 at 12:03 am |
  8. Scientificallyproven2BTrue

    Jesus loves you. Yes you. And no amount of human reasoning can disprove that.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      No amount of human reasoning can disprove that my soul is tickling your soul, either. Should we both believe that it is?

      August 31, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • adelita01

      LOL "Jesus loves you?" Fantasies from those who believe in the make believe.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • JBarg

      Nor prove it.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:52 pm |
    • Soul tickler

      Can I get in on the tickling?

      August 31, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • TheRationale

      Ah, the typical Christian head-in-the-sand retort. Because it's too hard to think.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
  9. Jeffision

    The stories in the Bible are wholly symbolic, and most of them predate the bible by thousands of years. I agree that teaching creationism to children is a form of child abuse. It creates a mind that thinks in ways that are inconsistent with reality and that handicaps the child for life. It's a cruel thing to do to a child.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • ArchieDeBunker

      Teaching socialism and "political correctness" to children is far worse than teaching them to question the holy grail of evolution, yet the majority of our teachers are engaged in just that. Talk about your child abuse!

      August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • guest 123

      I, personally look at things with an open mind...and in my opion..the world would be a better place if your mother would have excersided her female rights when she was prego with you

      August 31, 2012 at 11:57 pm |
  10. clarinet

    This bozo's video said absolutely nothing that would support the theory of evolution. What a con.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
    • adelita01

      Bill Nye spoke the truth! Creationists are delusional.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Interesting that Creationist point to steps in the creation and then to points of the theory of evolution and see a few parallels. Enough similarities that I fail to see the black and white issue between Evolutionist and Creationist.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Mark, the order in Genesis too far off to be considered "accurate" in any way. But do continue to rack your balls on the fence as you so often do.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:56 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Its not that hard to see the similarities once you remove the chatter from those who only want things their way and no other. Think about, after the Big the Bang the Earth was formed not a planet just floating through space. It was cooled gases and solid particles coming together to form planets. Now, then you look at Genesis and it says "And the earth was without form". We have Evolutionist declaring that other life existed and then humans. Genesis, states basically the same thing. Word for word no but close enough that I do not see the great issue between the groups.

      September 1, 2012 at 12:18 am |
  11. Blane

    Believe in God and you will be saved. Believe in man and his foolish theories and you have condemned yourself to hell.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
    • Gadflie

      You have a vivid imagination.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:45 pm |
  12. rh

    NFN, Nye should mind his business. I'm an atheist (and a scientist), and I don't want anyone to tell me to teach my kids creationism, so he shouldn't tell parents what to teach their kids. Evolution should be taught as a scientific theory, with a very strong case for the theory to be true, but knocking someone's religion is not for Nye to do.

    You just can't teach Christianity alongside evolution, at least not at young ages, because the Bible is pretty darn specific about "time" and how old the Earth is.

    But still, Nye needs to mind his business. I think if anyone is teaching their kids to read and write, and pay even a little attention to media, they'll ask their own questions.

    Next he'll be telling Mormons that Joseph Smith made the whole thing up and they owe their kids to tell them that, let alone that Scientology was created by a science fiction writer as an experiment in mob ethics. Mind your beeswax – support evolution, but don't tell people how to raise their kids.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  13. Really????

    Evolution is not an "idea". Religious extremism is dangerous, whether Christian or Muslim. I hope too many folks don't drink this cool aid.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  14. Johnny

    CNN, while you are trying to be fair, creationism is not backed up by any evidence. You should not loan ignorant people a megaphone, even if the intent is to be fair.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
  15. Chau Nguyen

    If parents want their children to learn Science (rigorous testing/proofs/peer review), then teach them Evolution.
    If their parents want their children to learn Religion (metaphysical speculation) then that is their business.
    But you can't tell parent how to raise their kids and you can't call Creationism a Science because it clearly is NOT!

    August 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  16. soul68

    There aren't two "sides" to every story. Just because you have an opposing opinion that you pulled from your nether regions doesn't make it a legitimate argument against tested and confirmed facts. They don't have equal weight in reality.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  17. sybaris

    Religion and the belief in any god(s) is a filthy disgusting disease of the mind

    August 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
  18. Bobobby

    "Ham writes that Nye is joining in with other evolutionists who say teaching children to deny evolution is a form of 'child abuse.'"

    Brainwashing your kids with ANY religious garbage before they're old enough to know better is child abuse.

    August 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • PopeurbanII

      Mythology should be taught to children. The stories are so thrilling!

      August 31, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • OldLarry

      Well said. Some "religions" even insist that the unborn children of members of that "religion" who marry non-members become members of their cult. Oops, I meant "religion." If that ain't child abuse, what is? Not to use names, but said "religion" is lead by a weird old guy who wears a dress. Oops,I meant a weird old guy who thinks he's infallible.

      September 1, 2012 at 12:00 am |
  19. Dave Harper

    I suppose that bacteria that have become immune to antibiotics have somehow become subject to "intelligent redesign".

    August 31, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • Bobobby

      They don't need to come up with a rational, logical argument because their basic premise of an all-knowing, all-powerful god explains away everything. They can just say that "God" changed the bacteria.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
  20. Skeptic001

    Can I smite everyone who doesn't believe in evolution?
    Isn't that in the bible?

    August 31, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You could certainly torture them for all eternity in a pit of fire. If you can build one and sustain it, that is, and then claim that you don't want anyone to go there, but you just have to send them there because you can't just save them from your torture pit because of talking snakes and invisible diseases in invisible body parts. That'd be all right.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Yeah, but you have be without sin first.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Meh.. dont' worry about the sin thing. Just make up some stupid sh!t that's invisible and undetectable and claim that everybody has it except for you. That should work.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Skeptic001

      It would be so convenient to believe in hell. But fortunately, I've evolved.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>" That should work."

      The "sin thing" and the lesson and example that was testified to of the person with out sin... works just fine for me. If you want to make up things then its cool but the lesson still stands that folks need to look at the sins and wrongdoings that they themselves have done before they wish to condemn another.

      August 31, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      LOL!! Mark, how would you propose we "look at" something that's invisible and can't be proven to exist?

      August 31, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Easy Moby, you as a person not of Faith can just look at it as a story and a lesson on moral decency. A person just asked if the Bible said you could "smite" someone, I just gave an example of the teachings of Jesus that he outlines who can "smite" or "stone" someone. It is why I am anti-Death penalty. You do not have to be of Faith to find moral stories in not only the Bible but many books of Faith. So, think of sins as any bad action that might be on you.

      L'Chaim.

      September 1, 2012 at 12:05 am |
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